Saturday, November 10, 2012

India - Ljubljana flights a step closer

Soon to the US via Ljubljana?

A major obstacle for the establishment of flights between India and Slovenia has been overcome after the two countries signed a Scheduled Air Services Protocol yesterday. Once the national parliaments of both countries ratify the Protocol, flights between Slovenia and India can be easily established. Last year Air India and Adria Airways signed a memorandum of understanding which was to see Air India code share on Adria’s regional flights, while in return the Indian national carrier would operate some of its services to the United States via the Slovenian capital. Plans were set for flights to be launched either during the 2012 summer season or the 2012/2013 winter season. However, Air India requested lower fuel prices at Ljubljana Jože Pučnik Airport and an exemption from paying fees in order to launch services to the Slovenian capital, all of which were denied.

Earlier this year, the Slovenian government, together with the petrol provider, Ljubljana Airport, Adria and Air India announced their willingness to get back to the negotiating table and discuss possible cooperation. Several months ago, the head of Ljubljana Airport, Zmago Skobir, commented on the issue, “I stress that this project could be beneficial for both the airport and Adria but it must be approached on an intergovernmental level”. The signing of the Scheduled Air Services Protocol, by the Slovenian Minister for Infrastructure and Urban planning, Zvonko Černač, and the Indian Civil Aviation Authority, indicates the government’s willingness to eliminate bureaucratic hurdles for a potential partnership between the Slovenian and Indian national carriers.

Meanwhile, exactly two months since the tender for the submission of non binding bids for the takeover of 74.9% of Adria Airways came to a close, no information has been released regarding the interested parties. It has been said that more than ten bids were submitted for the Adria share package.

25 comments:

  1. Wonderful, two failing state-run airlines uniting! I am sure people will rush to fly on Adria and Air India in stead of Austrian Airlines, Lufthansa or Swiss.

    Why does Adria even exist?! They are as good as dead and no sign of improvement is visible on the horizon. Plus, Zagreb is not far away so for flights that won't be offered from Ljubljana they will offered from there.

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    1. Your comments are stupid. Why Adria egzists? Seriously.

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    2. Why? It has a horrible fleet structure, there is no way it will ever make money by flying those fuel guzzling CRJ-200s and it seems that it cant position itself within the European market. It will end up being eaten up by other airlines until the government can no longer keep it on life support.

      Adria is dead. Live with it.

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    3. I am from LJU and would never consider ZAG as an alternative. With Venice (Marco Polo and Treviso), flight options and prices from there. Well, ZAG is not an alternative, definitely not.

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    4. Yes why should you consider Zagreb when you can reach with a stopover in Prishtina
      so many destinations in Europe and that all with your national airline LOL

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    5. ZAG is not an alternative!

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    6. HAHAHAHHAHH!! The comment on Pristina is the best one I have read in such a long time!

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  2. What happened to flight AP540 this morning (MXP - BEG). It still hasn't landed in Belgrade, and Flightradar24 shows some crazy stuff: http://www.flightradar24.com/#!/2012-11-10/06:08/ADH540

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    1. OK, now I see that it actually landed in TGD for some reason: http://www.montenegroairports.com/index.php?id=LYPG&type=0&menu=2&menu1=2&date=&mode=

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    2. 5 hour delay. On it's way from TGD to BEG - http://www.beg.aero/passengers/flights.239.html?flightId=155288

      Anyone knows what the reason of the detour was? As can be seen from Flightradar, AP540 made it all the way to BEG, and then diverted to TGD. Could fog have been the reason?

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    3. Nope it’s a warm and nice bright day.

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  3. Seems fine, but why would you choose LJU and what traffic would it generate? Logically BEG would be a better alternative or maybe Zagrab...

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    1. Or why not Serevjevo or Askopije? Or Preshteena?

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  4. Whats going on with Air Ones flight from MXP to BEG?

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  5. doubtful that such flights will happen. ljubljana is a very small market and nobody is going to want to fly with air india of all airlines. but i'm glad to see belgrade and ljubljana pushing for flights to the us. if all goes well, air india and azal will commence flights. best of luck to both.

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  6. Adria will resume flights to CDG

    09NOV2012
    Adria Airways (JP, Ljubljana Joze Pucnik (LJU)) network changes:

    New route: Ljubljana (LJU) - Paris (CDG) starting March 31, 2013.
    JP 322 1_3456_ 01APR2013 - 26OCT2013 LJU 0805 CDG 1000 CR9
    JP 342 _2____7 31MAR2013 - 22OCT2013 LJU 1845 CDG 2040 CR9
    New route: Paris (CDG) - Ljubljana (LJU) starting March 31, 2013.
    JP 323 1_3456_ 01APR2013 - 26OCT2013 CDG 1100 LJU 1250 CR9
    JP 343 _2____7 31MAR2013 - 22OCT2013 CDG 2120 LJU 2310 CR9

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  7. OK people it sounds strange but Air India flying from LJU to the US makes in some way sense.
    AI is a struggling carrier with a very bad image in Europe.
    Lufthansa and other airlines dont want it as a partner but AI needs one.
    Second FRA and other big airports had issues with them.
    I remember a day when FRA airport was closed for a half day because an AI pilot made a nearly crash landing and nearly ruined the runway.
    To fix the runway the airport had to be closed for half a day.You can imagine what losses that means for other airlines and especially LH.
    AI is a disastrous airline and is only a troublemaker.
    So when nobody wants to cooperate with them they have to look for other partners.
    So they approached for Adria.

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    1. "To fix the runway the airport had to be closed for half a day".

      "An AI pilot made a nearly crash landing and nearly ruined the runway"

      And much much more nonsenses.

      Well, first of all, an airline cannot be judged by one pilot's (eventual) mistake and one (never heard of) incident.

      Second, FRA has 3 runways (and plans to build the 4th, so the airport definitely won't be closed if one of its 3 runways are closed for some reason. Some delays, some irregularities, definitely, but "half day closed", no.

      Third, with 777LR, and similar, with up to 18 hours range, why to land anywhere between India and North America? Huge passenger numbers from Slovenia? Definitely not. AI US traffic rights, maybie, but LJU out of all other, once again, I doubt.

      And for all those mentioning ZAG in negative context, let's just wait mid 2013; maybie finally nice surprise will happen in ex-yu...

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    2. "To fix the runway the airport had to be closed for half a day".

      "An AI pilot made a nearly crash landing and nearly ruined the runway"

      And much much more nonsenses.

      Well, first of all, an airline cannot be judged by one pilot's (eventual) mistake and one (never heard of) incident.

      Second, FRA has 3 runways (and plans to build the 4th, so the airport definitely won't be closed if one of its 3 runways are closed for some reason. Some delays, some irregularities, definitely, but "half day closed", no.

      Third, with 777LR, and similar, with up to 18 hours range, why to land anywhere between India and North America? Huge passenger numbers from Slovenia? Definitely not. AI US traffic rights, maybie, but LJU out of all other, once again, I doubt.

      And for all those mentioning ZAG in negative context, let's just wait mid 2013; maybie finally nice surprise will happen in ex-yu...

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    3. "To fix the runway the runway had to be closed for half a day" should be correct.

      To call everything nonsense you never heard of is foolish even when i assume that nobody here on this blog is reading Indian newspapers and blogs.
      Also the topic is AI and not Frankfurt airport stay at it please !
      Also you should know that extreme longhaul nonstop to the US is in no way profitable for every airline and especially AI which has enough 777s.
      Even SIA and Thai Airways had to stop their nonstop flights to Newark.

      Even if it would be profitable -
      US government requires airlines from India to make a stopover in Europe because of security reasons.
      So stop please fooling around if you dont know anything about AI!



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    4. Sorry but Frankfurt has 4 runways, the last one was opened and it has already become fully operational a long time ago.

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    5. http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19990120-1

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  8. Adria still exists??? Lolll

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  9. To: FRA traveller

    "US government requires airlines from India to make a stopover in Europe because of security reasons".


    Not for all the flights, obviously. AI101 and AI191 are nonstops.

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