Friday, January 23, 2015

Wizz Air expands in Serbia and Macedonia

Wizz Air introduces new flights from Niš, Skopje and Ohrid

Wizz Air will be expanding its presence in Serbia and Macedonia this summer with the introduction of new flights to Niš and the addition of five new routes from Skopje and one from Ohrid. The low cost airline will introduce three weekly flights from Niš, in Serbia’s south-east, to Malmo on June 25. The new service will operate alongside its planned two weekly flights to Basel, which begin on July 3. “We are delighted to announce our expansion from Niš. Only a month after we announced our first route, from Niš to Basel, we are now adding our second to Malmo in Sweden”, John Stephenson, Wizz Air’s Executive Vice President, said. He added that while the airline does not plan to introduce additional services from Niš by the end of the year, flights to Germany might be considered in 2015. The Mayor of Niš, Zoran Perišić, says the new route will connect the Serbian diaspora living in Sweden with their homeland. Coupled with its Belgrade base, Wizz Air now offers a total of twelve destinations to seven countries from Serbia.

In Skopje, Wizz Air officially announced its expansion in Macedonia, which was reported on extensively over the past month. The airline will deploy a third Airbus A320 aircraft at its Skopje base from June 29, adding five new services from the Macedonian capital to Friedrischshafen, Sandefjord, Barcelona, Lubeck and Nuremberg. Each new route will be operated twice per week. The new aircraft will allow Wizz Air to increase its number of weekly flights on existing routes from Skopje to Cologne, Frankfurt Hahn, Paris Beauvais and Bergamo, from two to three per week, as well as to Gothenburg, from three to four weekly flights, and Malmo, from five weekly flights to a daily service. Wizz Air also announced operations from Macedonia’s second international airport, Ohrid, with a new service to Basel launching July 1 and operating twice a week.

Commenting on its expansion in Macedonia, the airline’s Executive Vice President said, "Today’s announcement is great news for Macedonia. By expanding our Skopje fleet and adding Ohrid to our route network, we create more travel opportunities and a greater choice of destinations. This is expected to create more local jobs as well as further stimulate tourism in Macedonia. We expect that our six new services and the increased capacity on existing services will be welcomed by consumers as we bring more low fares to Macedonia”. Wizz Air handled over half a million passengers from Skopje last year. It now offers a total of twenty routes to ten countries from Macedonia.

RouteLaunch date
Malmo - Niš25.06.2015
Skopje - Friedrischshafen29.06.2015
Skopje - Sandefjord29.06.2015
Skopje - Barcelona30.06.2015
Skopje - Lubeck 01.07.2015
Skopje - Nuremberg 01.07.2015
Basel - Ohrid 01.07.2015

Tickets for the newly announced services are already on sale through the airline's website.

94 comments:

  1. Bravo! Well done Wizz.

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  2. 12 lines in seven countries is quite fine.

    Still, it is only 7 countries. I would like if they introduced Charleroi... Just to add some variety. Pitty..

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    1. Didn't they suspend Charleroi from BEG? I think it was their worst performing route.

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    2. Probably it wasn't the best of their routes but I think it wasn't bad enough for suspension. They suspended it only when airport allegedly increased its taxes. Maybe they could have two flights per week..

      But okay, now it is not bad either.

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    3. Charleroi was doing ok but then Air Serbia destroyed them with daily flights and competitive fares.

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    4. @Anon @ 11:52

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      How can anyone still quote competitive reasons in BEG is beyond me.

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    5. I don't get what you mean.

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    6. Do some research

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    7. Maybe you should learn how to write clearly.

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  3. I wonder when will they finalize their talks with Podgorica over launching flights from Poland and Germany?
    And what about Pristina, the Website has also reported at some time, that the airport would like to have Wizz Air among its users. Then the only Balkan airports wthout Wizz Air would be Tirana and Zagreb - they stopped flying to Zagreb long ago, maybe they will come back at some time...

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    1. Banjaluka too

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    2. Every airline bypasses BNX if possible so the Wizz as well. There is no competent managing board, that's the main problem. A new management team is needed to turn the ground-handling company round.

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  4. And there are also rumors that Wizz Air could launch flights to Sarajevo.

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  5. Admin you have one error, you miss to update info also for Skopje - Paris, from 2w to 3w :)

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  6. Good job Wizz Air, took almost whole Balkan!

    Good luck ;)

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  7. Tresla se brda rodio se miš. Nitko razuman nije očekivao brdo linija i 150.000 putnika iz Niša u prvoj godini (niti u drugoj, trećoj...).

    I sada neka mi netko od dežurnih megalomana objasni kako će to Wizzair sa dvije linije i 6 tjednih polazaka tek pola godine iz Niša napraviti 150.000 putnika, a sa ciljem da Srbija dostigne 6 milijuna putnika godišnje?

    Pa se nadam da ćete sada shvatiti argumente zašto Niš ne može rasti kao Tuzla, a koja ima tek 140.000 putnika u 2014.

    1. Niš ima 4 velika aerodroma koji su udaljene tek 110-230 km od Niša i dobrim dijelom spojeni autoputevima. Ovi aerodromi zajedno imaju 11 milijuna putnika, velik broj linija, velik broj LCC linija i na svima osim PRN Wizz ima svoje baze sa stacioniranih čak 7 aviona.

    Tuzla u krugu 250 km ima 2 mala i jedan veliki aerodrom (BEG), sa ukupno tek 5 milijuna putnika, koji nisu povezani autoputevima (dakle putuje se 3 i više sati do njih) a kada izuzmemo BEG koji je i najdalje (uz prelazak dvije granice) ostala dva aerodroma imaju vrlo malo linija i zanemariv broj LCC letova.

    2. Tuzlanski kanton je veći od Nišava distrikta za čak 150.000 stanovnika, broj putnika koji gravitira Tuzli (iz susjednih kantona) je veći za čak 400.000 nego onaj koji gravitira Nišu. Uz to iz Tuzle putuju i putnici Središnje Bosne i Sarajeva, Sjeverne i Istočne Bosne, te istočne Hrvatske (Osijek, vinkovci, Vukovar, Ilok, Županja, Đakovo, Slavonski Brod), što nije slučaj sa Nišem jer će putnici iz Makedonije i Južne Srbije prije koristiti Skopje, oni iz Kosova Prištinu, a oni iz Istočne Srbije i Zapadne Bugarske Sofiju.

    3. Veličina dijapore Niša jest velika, ali nije toliko velka koliko je Bosansko izbjeglištvo i dijaspora, poglavito u Skandinaviji. Prema službenim podacima vlade BiH i vlade Srbije BIH dijaspora je veća od srpske za čak pola milijuna ljudi, a pritom dobar dio njih nema alternative putovanja nego iz Tuzle (Sarajevo, Banja Luka i Mostar imaju vrlo skorman broj letova, posebno LCC, što znači da dijaspora prvenstveno putuje preko Tuzle), dok dobar dio srpske dijaspore nije iz Niša i okolice, nego iz Beograda, Središnje i Sjeverne Srbije, te Vojvodine koji prije koriste Beograd i Budimpeštu nego Niš.

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    1. Заборављаш једну важну ствар, нишки аеродром не привлачи само путнике из свог округа већ из целе јужне као и источне Србије.
      Тако да ће народ из Јагодине, Чачка, Крагујевца, Краљева, Врања... летети из Ниша. Исто тако, не заборавимо да је Крагујевац добро стојећи град те има ок куповну моћ.
      Сама чињеница да су најавили свој други град после месец дана само указује на то како се добро продају летови. Ко нам гарантује да кроз два месеца неће најавити још кој град?

      Исто тако, као што је јуче написано, Ниш ће привући путнике из западне Бугарске баш као што и Београд привлачи путнике из источне Хрватске.

      Што се тиче Београда, следеће године имаће око 5.5 милиона путника тако да са Нишом скупиће око 5.6 до 5.7 милиона.

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    2. Ne znam ko je to tvrdio, tih 150 000...

      Zašto se hvataš za te ljude..

      Plan koji vlast ima za 2015 je 40 000 putnika.

      Znači političari, koji su najveći megalomani, nisu ništa rekli o 150 000. Već 40 000 ove godine, i 100.000 sledeće...

      Bar nam niko neće govoriti ovde na blogu:

      "Belgrade is not the biggest Serbian airport, it's the ONLY ONE."

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    3. Мислим да им то највише шкоди. До сада су увек могли да нам набијају на нос како ми имамо само један. Ја сам сигуран да кроз 5-6 године Визер ће покренути и кој лет са Мораве.

      Број потенцијалних путника са нишког аеродрома је огроман те сам сигуран да ће без проблема надмашити своје циљеве.

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    4. Tuzla u krugu 250 km ima 2 mala i jedan veliki aerodrom (BEG), sa ukupno tek 5 milijuna putnika
      Dobra provokacija sledece godine ce imati oko 6 mil pax ako se ostvari sve sto je zacrtano za ovu godinu ;)
      INN-NS

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    5. Ako će ekipa iz Kragujevca letjeti iz Niša umjesto iz Beograda, onda će i oni iz Banja Luke, pa i iz Zagreba letjeti iz Tuzle. Nema to logike. Ima logike da putnik iz Sarajeva leti iz Tule jer nema takvih letova iz Sarajeva, ali onaj iz Kragujevca će svakako prije koristiti Beograd. Target skupina Niša je Nišava i 6 okruga oko Niša. Sve ostalo će letjeti iz Sofije, Skopja, Beograda i Prištine. Još uvijek će gro putnika iz samog Niša letjeti iz Beograda, Skopja i Sofije radi daleko većeg broja linija, bolje usluge i većeg broja frekvencija.

      I kako god, dok putnik iz Kragujevca ima alternative, onaj iz cijele Bosne nema nego koristi Tuzlu. Čak i da uzmemo da je target skupina Niša šira od 200 km, još uvijek Tuzla ima daleko više stanovnika na tom prostoru. Daleko više.

      Ja ne kažem da drugi grad nije dobra vijest, i da će se tu stati. Samo naglašavam da ako je Tuzla u tri godine dostigla tek 140.000 putnika, Niš to neće ni u 5 godina, ako će ikada, a megalomanske i prepotentne izjave kako će u 2015. preko Niškog aerodroma proći 150.000 putnika i kako je preko noći postao konkurencija Sofiji su doslovce gluposti.

      A da Beograd neće dostići 5,5 milijuna u idućoj godini to ti garantiram. To bi značilo povećanje od 20% što se neće desiti iz nekoliko razloga:

      - Air Serbia nije povećala kapacitete, već sada je prekasno, a sa postojećom flotom je prošle godine pucala, a kamoli da još bitno poveća broj linija i frekvencija

      - povečanje LF je vjerovatno, ali ono ne može generirati povečanje od 20% broja putnika kroz BEG

      - Nema najava novih letova drugih kompanija, čak štoviše u usporedbi sa 2014. bitna smanjenja imaju easyJet (ostao tek na jednoj liniji), Germanwings (samo 9 letova cijele godine), Adrija (potpuno se povukla), Lufthansa, Swiss, Turkish, TAP (potpuno se povukao), Wizzari (prvih 5 mjeseci 2014. letio je sa 2 aviona, a ove godine će letjeti sa jednim). Sve to znači smanjenje broja putnika. Može li Air Serbija naknaditi toliko smanjenje?

      - Alitalijina razvojna politka će se očito bar djelomično kositi sa Air Serbijinom. Etihadu je deal sa Alitalijom vrlo važano. Povečanje linija i frekvencija prema Americi uz konekcije prema Balkanu (već su otvorene nove linije za Podgoricu i Skopje, a povećan je broj letova za Beograd, Split i Dubrovnik, ove godine će se otvoriti linija za Zagreb i Sarajevo), to sigurno neće dobro utjecati na povećanje broja putnika Air Serbie

      - tržište se počelo konsolidirati, Turkish je bio bijesan na Air Serbiu u Zagrebu, odgovorio je sa nevjerovatnim tarifama od 139 EUR, Monenegro traži alternative, Swiss udara na Balkan, Adrija se privatizira i otvara nove linije, Croatia odgovara (mlako i mlohavo, ali ipak odgovara novim frekvencijama, code-share ugovorima, akcijama od 99 EUR za povratne karte). Sve to neće dobro utjecati na Air Serbiu.

      - jako bitno tržište Air Serbie Rusija je u totalnom kolapsu. Masovno se zatvaraju linije, odjednom je nestalo putnika (platežna moć je preko noći pala devalvacijom Rublje), a Air Serbiji ovo tržište nije zanemarivo. Ono je uništilo ČSA i dovelo ga do bankrota, to se Air Serbiji neće desiti, ali nitko ne može reći da neće utjecati na ukupne brojke u Beogradu

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    6. @10:23
      Dobro, Purger, vec smo culi te tvoje argumente juce.
      Niko normalan nije rekao da ce INI imati 150.000 putnika prve godine, sve preko 20-25.000 za prvu godinu je ok.
      Bitno je da pocinje da se pokrece, zato nemoj da pricas zlonamerno nesto oko brojeva sto ne stoji.

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    7. Putnici Juzne i Istocne Srbije tek trebaju da nauce da koriste avion kada se vracaju iz pecalbe.

      Nije isto uneti malesni kofercic u avion ili dovesti kola puna torbi iz Dojclanda.

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    8. "... A da Beograd neće dostići 5,5 milijuna u idućoj godini to ti garantiram..."

      Tako ste i prosle godine govorili da ce Beograd imati maksimum 3.8 miliona, pa je zavrsio godinu sa 4.64 miliona.
      Tako da bih bio oprezan sa vasim projekcijama.

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    9. Очигледно ниси упућен у географију Србије. Дакле ти тврдиш да неки Крагујевчанин кој лети за Малме или Копенхаген ће пре ићи 250 км северно до Београда или ће прелазити границу да би стигао до Софије или Скопља место да лети из Ниша? Ту и нема много логике.

      Као што сам већ рекао, Ниш ће покривати целу јужну Србију, то је чињеница. Она може да ти се свиђа или не али тако је то.

      На крају крајева, желим да ти скренем пажњу да је у новембру и децембру аеродром забележио 25% и 22% раст.

      Људи као ти су овде предвиђали потпуну катаклизму од само почетка... сваки пут се доказало да нису били у праву.
      А што се тиче Москве, да је ситуација за Ер Србију тако лоша тамо, не би унели у систем 7 од 14 недељних летова са А320 већ би смањили што капацитет, што број учесталости.
      Иначе, Москва је уз Амстердам најпрофитабилнија линија за ЈУ па ти види.

      Воздра.

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    10. I wonder how BEG still managed to record a 22% increase in December when Air Serbia was already operating a year ago.

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    11. And not only that but in December it added Zagreb to the list of its destinations and it increased Ljubljana to double daily.

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    12. Anonymous at 12:31 PM
      Kao prvo nemas pojma kakvi se razgovori vode u BEG.
      A tek nista sto ne znate o ASL.
      Ja vam garantujem da niko nece kupiti CTN
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    13. ИНН, најлепше бих те замолио да ако већ пишеш овде да онда напишеш нешто конструктивно, нешто што садржи неке конкретне чињенице.

      Тај аргумент видећете ви, не знате ништа... су више него беспотребни.

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    14. Pa ja kad napisem nesto sto cujem narod me ismeva ko za 330 .
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    15. ovo je jedna od najbesmislenijih diskusija koje sam pročitao na ovom blogu

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    16. 1. Ja nikada nisam govorio da će Beograd ove godine biti na 3,8 milijuna putnika.

      2. Ovdje se ne vodi rasprava o tome ima li logike letjeti iz Niša ili da Niš neće uspjeti sa letovima Wizza. Ja sam samo demantirao na prepotentne i nimalo realne izjave kako će Niš u 2015. imati 150.000 putni, što bi značilo više nego u Tuzli, a što je nonsens. I da to je jučer ponovljeno nekoliko puta.

      3. Sve u krugu 400 km je prihvatljivo za putnika koji pazi na troškove i koji koristi LCC. U tom kontekstu nije neralno da putnik iz npr. Kragujevca putuje iz Sofije, naravno ne ako ima bližu i barem iole povoljnu tarifu. No, Niš ne otvara ništa posebno. Niš otvara linije za Basel i za Malmo koje se mogu letjeti i iz Skopja i iz Sofije i iz Beograda. A svaki će putnik iz Kragujevca letjeti prije iz Beograda nego iz Niša jer je Beograd bliže, aerodrom je daleko bolji i usput može i nešto u Beogradu obaviti (ovo uopće nije glupo), naravno ako cijene iz Niša neće biti bitno jeftinija. Koji bi makedonac radije putovao iz Niša na iste letove nekog iz Skopja, ili Bugar iz Niša umjesto Sofije.

      Dakle Niš će privuči putnike koji su na 100 km od Niša, dok kod Tuzle putnici i 200 km od Tuzle namaju alternative.

      što se tiće 22% povečanja u 12. mjesecu uzmite u obzir da je Air Serbia dobar dio letova pokrenula tek u 12 mjesecu po dolasku aviona (dakle neke i polovicom 12. mjeseca), a većinu tek u 3. mjesecu.

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    17. Свако ко може да избегне прелазак границе то ће и урадити. Исто тако, летови за Базел из Ниша крећу у много боље време. Лет из Београда креће у катастрофалних 5 ујутру тако да мислим да ће народ избегавати путовање из Београда.

      Па по тој логици онда ће аеродром у Београду имати раст преко 20% све до јуна. Исто тако, не заборавимо да ЈУ и даље преговара око изнајмљивања до 2 Атра. За сада се очекују у марту. Ове додатне две летелице ће омогућити повећање учесталости али и пуштање нових линија. ЈУ за сада планира да пусти још једну нову дестинацију, која би идеално требала да крене од летњег реда летења.

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    18. I sa 200 km oko Tuzle ima manje potencijalnih putnika od Nisa sa 100 km. Prosto to je sada siromasan kraj gde manje ljudi leti. Broj putnika kao Tuzla dostici ce malo kasnije, tek treba da se ugradi oprema, da se razrade linije. Ako dodje Ryan onda ce imati znatno veci broj od 100000 putnika godisnje. sve je pod ako.

      Uh ala si ti nedokazan covek. Sam niski aerodrom ima odmah prugu pored sebe koja mu smeta za buduca prosrirenja za razliku recimo od Dubrava.

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    19. Заборављамо једну кључну ствар овде. Потенцијални путници са југа Србије су већ навикнути на Визер. Захваљујући јаком brand awareness њихов успех је загарантован.

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    20. Netreba zaboraviti dolazak 4 A319 i 2-3 ATR 72 i ako bude sve uredu A330. Valjda ce ovaj put uspostaviti liniju za INN
      INN-NS

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    21. Da, neki ovde stvatrno pojma nemaju o geografiji Srbije (mada pišu ćirilicom), pa ne znaju da je Kragujevac udaljen od Beograda jednako kao i od Niša.

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    22. Kakve ima veze sto pise cirilicom? Ne hejtuj. Izmedju ostalog ima pravo.

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    23. Nista ne moze vise da iziritira prosvetljenog srpskog liberala nego koriscenje izvornog pisma.

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    24. Не хејтујем, наравно, ево и ја пишем ћирилицом, ал` знам и где је Крагујевац...

      (Прозвани)

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    25. Латинични анонимусусе... дакле ти тврдиш да ће неко из Крагујевца путовати у сред ноћи да би ухватио лет у 05.00 из Београда за Базел када има исти тај лет у 11.35 из Ниша?
      Што се тиче Малмеа, он стиже натраг у Београд мало пре поноћи што значи да путник или мора преноћити у Београду или путовати у сред ноћи натраг до КГ'-а. Визеров лет креће из Ниша у 10.40, пошто слети у 10.10.

      Дакле, мало ко ће хтети да се малтретира преко Београда када Ниш нуди много боља времена...а вероватно и ниже цене.

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    26. Шта ти вреди што знаш где је Крагујевац када не поседујеш основе аналитичког размишљања.

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    27. "Па по тој логици онда ће аеродром у Београду имати раст преко 20% све до јуна."

      Ух, ту си га сjе*ао...

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    28. Ћирилични анонимусе,
      Редови летења се мењају, а Крагујевац остаје близу Београда. И близу Краљева ("Мораве").
      Латинични анонимус

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    29. Латинично-ћирилични анонимусе,

      Визер је већ финализирао свој летњи ред летења тако да он, баш као и Крагујевац, не иде никуд.

      А што се Мораве тиче, тај аеродром је хаос. Не само да инфраструктура није готова, већ је и писта сувише кратка. Исто тако аеродром нема дозволу за међународни саобраћај.
      Изгледа да ће и ове године наши сународници из Крагујевца путовати у Ниш да би љетели.

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    30. Honestly, this will pretty much be the network of Air Serbia since all the most money-making destinations have already been covered. With few exceptions, the most notable one being the long haul flights, the network expansion will stagnate cause this is the limit of how much you can stretch your network and hope to be profitable with a leased fleet. Only once Air Serbia takes ownership of additional aircraft, we may expect some serious network expansion, greatly depending on synergies and virtual boundaries set by the members of the very alliance Air Serbia belongs to (Etihad, Alitalia...). So what can we expect while being optimistic and realistic at the same time:

      On short term:
      - Lease of additional ATR aircraft
      - A very conservative route expansion (opening of one or two additional European destinations) and risk free development of network through codeshare agreements (such as Singapore and Vietnam recently)
      - With Venice now out of the question, the furthest we can see Air Serbia stretch its ATR fleet is Bratislava, Krakow, Lvov, Odessa, Chisinau, secondary Romanian cities. Seeing how their ATR fleet is already streched, that's very unlikely so most likely we'll just see increased frequencies and adjustments on existing routes notably Tirana and Zagreb; those other destinations might be eventualy pushed to medium or long-term, if ever to be opened.
      - The most likely candidate for intra-European flights is Madrid, maybe Munich. I'm afraid the first one won't materialize before JU starts taking ownership of new aircraft cause you don't need a leased A319 to spend the whole day sunbathing in Spain while it could go to Moscow, i hope to be wrong.
      - Opening of Chicago, New York and Beijing (independently of additional intra-European flights) but greatly dependent on regional flights openings and frequencies (with the clock ticking due to developments in the neibhurhood, what might push this project that should have been medium term into the short-term frame)

      On medium term:
      - Additional frequencies across the entire network, double daily to almost any destination being the norm
      - Expansion into secondary markets of Romania, Russia and into the Caucasus and Middle-East
      - Perhaps entering the cargo business by converting the 737's to freighter variant

      On long term:
      - Expansion to secondary markets in Western Europe
      - Long-haul flights network increase and operation of some on behalf of Etihad (Etihad planning to route MEX via Rome, as an example of such cooperation, or Air Seychelles operating to Hong Kong)
      - Acquisition of regional airlines such as BH and Montenegro Airlines
      - Wide-body order or transfer from Etihad Airways into effective ownership
      - Ending the lease of both the short haul and wide-body fleet (70% of fleet at least should be owned)

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    31. +1 Aэrologic
      Ja mislim da bi odlicno bilo da ASL Flota do 2020-21 izgleda ovako :
      8 AT76 ( obavezna linija za INN )
      8 E190
      20 A320neo
      7 A321neo
      7 A359 ( seasonal MIA-BKK- BOM ( preko cele godine da lete za LAX-ORD-YYZ-IAD-JFK-SIN-JNB-PVG-PEK.
      Kargo flota :
      Ako Aviolet 733 imaju mogucnost QC onda
      3-4 B733F
      1 B77F
      INN-NS

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    32. ^ I dont know whether to cry or laugh

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    33. this is by funniest comment somebody ever wrote on this blog, hands down! This is so unrealistic that I dont have any words to describe this INN-NS. Now we know how much you know about aviation after putting 4 different types of aircraft manufacturers into one company. Also do you REALLY think that AirSerbia could fill a flight from lets say BOM, or even MIA???

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    34. E190 sam bezveze napisao
      A vi da znate da je Aerospatiale deo EADS-a tako da imaju samo 3 tipa Aviona kad otpisemo E190 ostaju 2. A i mnoge aviokompanije imaju 4 tipa aviona
      Ja sa vam govorim da ce do 2020-21 izgledati flota ASL tako samo bez E 190.
      BOM je baza jednog clana EY alliance 9W , MIA moze lagano da se puni sezonski.
      Mozda deluje to sve cudno ali ja stojim iza toga sto sam napisao.
      INN-NS

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    35. INN-NS, I have traveled so far with ASL 10 times mostly during July and August and once this January to destinations: AMS, CDG, TLV, and IST. Out of this 10 flights, only the CDG flight was both ways full ( 90+ occupancy), while all other flights were around 60%, while TLV was both times around 40-50% full. Excluding TLV, the other three destinations are world hubs to which ASL should be flying constantly full during summer ( 90+ load wise). If ASL cannot fill this mentioned lines during summer time to destinations which JAT has been flying for years then how on earth will ASL fill BOM and MIA. I also disagree with people who say that you cannot judge airlines flight loads just by 10 flights.

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    36. btw I forogt to mention that I travelled to AMS twice, once in July and once in January. During July period the load was as mentioned around 60%, while during January I had full row to myself

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    37. Dobro ne mora sezonski da leti za MIA-BKK-BOM. Ali moze lagano da napuni letove za LAX-ORD-YYZ-IAD-JFK-SIN-JNB-PVG-PEK posto moze da privuce putnike iz Poljske-Ceske-Slovacke-Madjarske-Ukrajine-Moldavije-Rumunije-Bugarske-Makedonije-Grcke-cak i Austrije-Slovenije-HR-BIH niko ne moze da mi kaze ako budu cene u redu da ne mogu gore navedeni letovi da fukcionisu.
      INN-NS

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    38. I completely get what you are trying to say, but at the same time I think ASL should focus on developing the current routes ( improving loads) and introducing more European destinations such as Madrid, Barcelona, Saint Petersburg. Also introducing Cairo and Amman would be a nice edition for transfer pax. If we look at Cyprus Airways one of the reasons they went red and now finally ceased operations was due to long-haul aircraft.

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  8. Otvaraju liniju za Barselonu iz Skoplja a ne iz Beograda? Zanimljivo..

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    1. Were some comments deleted or what?

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    2. Zar je moguće da ljudi iz Beograda, mislim na menadzere, upravu aerodroma ili ko se već time bavi, ne mogu da privuku neku low cost kompaniju da uspostavi liniju za Barselonu. Ta linija je toliko neophodna, i sve više ljudi putuje tamo. Baš me zanima to. Veliki pozdrav za sve dobronamerne ljude. :)

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    3. Vueling има сезонске летове.

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    4. I pre njega Spanair dok nije bankrotirao.
      BCN je low yield destinacija, zato i nema vise letova.

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    5. Aviolet also has seasonal charters from Belgrade to Barcelona or Girona, right?

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    6. Jat flew to Girona. Air Serbia flew to Palma de Mallorca and Almeira.

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  9. Sad samo Mostar nema stalnih letova.

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  10. I sincerely doubt that any carrier can operate flignts to INI with A320 on economic basis (with no subsidies).

    Guess the ideal plane for sustainable traffic from/to INI is Dash 8.

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    1. With low taxes of 3 eur per pax only, everything included in it, I think it can.
      Don't worry, those Wizz guys are very conservative with route planning, they don't fly unprofitable routes.

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    2. Actually we do not know that. They never published money results. We just know they have new airplains on order.

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    3. They have regularly published numbers and have been highly profitable in the past few years. You just need to know where to look, i.e. Hungarian revenue / tax reports, which are public.

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    4. Bez placanja dugova. How Yes No. Procvetali. Vlasnici su iz Teksasa i nisu nigde prijavili imaju li profita ili gubitaka ako ne racunamo tekstove u madzarskim novinama.

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    5. Wizz momentalno ima keš poziciju da lagano isplati originalne dugove. To će svakako biti odrađeno kroz ipo. Ne znam zašto se ložiš? Dali lakše spavaš ako veruješ da im ne ide?

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    6. Ima para da isplati dugove od 2005? Ti si jak igrac kada sve to znas. IPO nema, jer moraju onda da objave rezultate. Nema mogucnosti da se nasteluju.

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    7. Nisi baš u toku sa događajima.

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    8. Ti mislis da njima novac nice i samo ga sakupljaju.

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  11. http://www.b92.net/biz/vesti/srbija.php?yyyy=2015&mm=01&dd=23&nav_id=950128

    As I said, nobody cannot expect Niš to have more than 100.000 pax pear year...simply because there is not enough capacity...

    Actually most of us didn't..

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    1. The director of the airport expects 30.000 passengers next year.

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  12. Hope to see new routes from Ljubljana by Wizzair.

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  13. How is the capacity of an airport calculated? If the capacity is 100,000 pax p/a then it's 274 per day, i.e. a full plane with 137 seats of incoming and outgoing pax. Is it possible that INI can handle only a plane a day?

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    1. Maybe a certain aircraft at a time... In 2015 they are going to be expanding the gate area so it should be easier.

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    2. He wrote somewhere. Two jets per day. V.D. je zreo za nogu.

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    3. kakva budalaština. pa u vreme najgorih magli na BEG-u INI je servisirao po 4, 5 aviona u isto vreme. pre će biti da im je kapacitet 100.000 putnika mesečno

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  14. OT: Unlike google maps, bing maps can show interior layout of Belgrade airport, but without many details. Didn't see this feature on other Ex Yu airports.

    It is time for google.rs to also add Belgrade internal airport map as they did for some other airports around the world! Even better, to also add StreetView inside BEG terminal as for Madrid Barajas terminal?

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  15. Vazno je da je INI dobio konacno letove.
    Ja ocekujem negde oko 32000-33000 pax
    A za BEG oko 6 mil pax.
    INN-NS

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    1. 6 mil for BEG in 2015 is a very high prediction. It is more fun to predict 5 mil and achieve or exceed the prediction than predict something very high and then be disappointed if it doesn't happen.

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    2. ^ The BEG statistics are too optimistic. Go to the Air Serbia skyscrapercity forum and you will see that realistic results are around 5.1-5.3 million this year.In regards to Nis I agree with your stats

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    3. *correction ( aerodrom beograd skyscraprcity forum)

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    4. BEG 5,4 is the top we can see this year. Next year we will see great increse again coz many new routes will be established. 6,1 in 2016

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    5. ^ So are you talking about transatlantic flights in 2016? Can you elaborate a bit more. Are there any new routes planned this year? Also the thing which worries me is that not a single foreign company has announced BEG flights for sooo long!!! I am not counting Belavia with its CRJ-200 one weekly flight. The only airline which started BEG flights was TAP Portugal and that is it ( they cancelled the flights sadly).

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    6. Exactly Vaske. I believe in 2016 we will have flights to China, USA and Canada as well as further expansion to Middle East and Noth Africa.

      I`m also afraid because there are no new comers to BEG. We can see only reduction of foreign companies and unfortunatelly that trend will keep going in the future.
      It`s a pitty that Tap didnt make some code share agreement with JU. TAP could feed JU`s flight to the rest of Balkans while JU could feed TAP`s flghts to West Africa and Brasil.

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    7. TAP suspended the route until summer, they are not sure yet what to do with BEG route, hopefully will return and go seasonal so not everything is lost with TP.

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  16. Two Alitalia A320 in Belgrade today and the B733 goes to LJU tonight!

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