Sunday, May 31, 2015

LOT temporarily suspends Belgrade and Zagreb

LOT suspends Belgrade and Zagreb flights until 2016

LOT Polish Airlines will temporarily suspend services from Warsaw to both Belgrade and Zagreb as a result of restructuring. In addition to the two routes, flights from Warsaw to Chisinau, Yerevan and Dusseldorf will also be terminated. However, the airline has underlined that all of the routes remain within LOT’s network and that services to Belgrade and Zagreb will resume in 2016. The final service to both the Serbian and Croatian capital cities is planned for June 30. Ticket sales have been terminated thereafter. “LOT has made the decision to announce changes to the timetable with as much notice as possible for passengers”, the airline said in a statement.

LOT cites restructuring as the reason behind the abrupt suspensions. The plan, which has been rubberstamped by the European Commission, obliges the airline to implement its last round of compensatory measures, essentially forcing the carrier to make changes to its schedule. Every European Union airline which receives state aid has to implement similar measures, the carrier said. “LOT is in contact with the European Commission and is going ahead according to current regulations”, the statement reads. LOT maintains that EU restrictions will last only until the end of the year, with the airline expected to announce new routes from 2016 in the next couple of months.

The Polish national carrier launched flights to Belgrade in 2010. Last year, Air Serbia challenged LOT on the route by launching flights to Warsaw. However, the Polish carrier has outperformed its Serbian counterpart, which has struggled on the route. During the first quarter, LOT operated 53 return flights from Belgrade, up 31% on last year and will maintain daily services to the city until its suspension at the end of June. On the other hand, the Polish carrier launched five weekly flights to Zagreb this April following the demise of EuroLOT, which maintained daily services from Warsaw. LOT will boost its Zagreb operations to daily from June 4 until its temporary suspension. Last month, both LOT and Croatia Airlines entered a codeshare partnership, with the Polish carrier adding its flight numbers and code onto Croatia Airlines’ services from Zagreb to Split, Dubrovnik, Frankfurt, Munich and Vienna. On the other hand, the Croatian carrier placed its codes and flight numbers onto LOT’s services between Zagreb and Warsaw, as well as from Warsaw to Frankfurt, Munich and Vienna.

78 comments:

  1. This will be very good for AS. There are no more conventions from WAW to ZAG so that automatically means more transfer passengers for BEG

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    1. There are. Via MUC, VIE and FRA.

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    2. I think he meant direct flights. I doubt many would connect in Belgrade as the connecting times are horrible.

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    3. Yes, but
      ZAG - WAW via VIE = 265 E layover 1h35m
      ZAG - WAW via ZRH = 302 E layover 3h40m
      ZAG - WAW via FRA = 310 E layover 4h25m
      ZAG - WAW via BEG = 165 E layover 6h55m

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  2. It was just question of time when one of airliners will drop this line LOT or ASL. Even it was nice for passengers to fly with just 100 euro it was obviously that both airliners loosing lot of money.
    It not necessary mean that this will be too bad for passengers. Line must be profitable or airliner will drop it at the end.

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  3. Not good at all. Another airline leaving Belgrade, with no new airlines and flights anywhere in sight.

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    1. Jel si pročitao članak?

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    2. REALLY?

      You think they'll be back? After summer season is over? Sometime in maybe February 2016 or something?

      Oh...hang on...just a moment...I just saw a pig that can fly...

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    3. @B*N*V naravno da hoće. Zbog regulativa EK i programa rekonstrukcije, letovi za 5 destinacija su privremeno ukinuti. Treba puniti B787 prijatelju i njegove letove preko bare. LOT je odmah počeo da prodaje svoje letove za BEG preko ASL.

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    4. @Beograde... LOT-ovu kartu za BEG je moguće kupiti od 02.01.16. Svinje ipak mogu da lete?

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    5. @Beograd na vodi
      Hajde bezi sa bloga, ovde su ljudi koje zanima vazduhoplovstvo, ne pljuvanje po stvarima o kojima nemaju pojma.

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    6. As some people would say: "Prvo skoči pa reci hop"!

      It takes a lot of balls to bot the blog without courtesy to put your name down. Really shows interest im the topic. LOL.

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    7. Ma jok, neka ga, možda nauči nešto.

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    8. @Beograde na vodi, znaš, još je moj profesor pogonskih grupa u Drapšinu pre 30 godina Madjul govorio, danas sve može da leti ako imate dovoljno jak motor! Pa i svinja...tako, pssssst! Prvo nauči nešto pa napiši.

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  4. Are you people even reading the article?! They are coming back and this was done because of EU regulations.

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    1. Yeah, if BEG or ZAG were their cash-cows then they wouldn't have suspended them in the first place.

      The only difference is that they might return to Zagreb as it's far less competitive.

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  5. YU-ALV and Zagreb's brand new terminal!

    http://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/t31.0-8/11110060_10153340001431575_3674963207754923538_o.jpg

    YU-ALV and Korean Air in Zagreb.

    http://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/t31.0-8/11393561_10153340001381575_7584908824115797632_o.jpg

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    1. Holy shit! Are they gonna fly to the moon in that!? :)
      Nice and congrats to ZAG!

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    2. Wow! That thing looks impressive! Ovi sabani naši u Bgd su smešni koliko malo napreduju a "kao" spremaju se za long haul!
      Congrats to ZAG!

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    3. @12:57 smesan si ti, jer velike ptice od 80-tih imaju fingere na BEG...

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    4. few more from the air,

      http://www.viadukt.hr/r/i/i/Tijek-radova-zagrebacka-zracna-luka.jpg
      http://www.viadukt.hr/r/i/i/Tijek-radova-zagrebacka-zracna-luka_1.jpg

      New terminal statistics,

      From one end to other terminal will be 325m long with 400m (200x2) extension add as part of phase 2.

      65000sqm and the only airport in these parts with underground sorting facility and separate arrival and departure levels,

      New Terminal main building will be 32m tall and 57m air traffic control tower is yet yo be planned and built.

      Initial capacity of new terminal will be 5.5 million, as part of phase capacity will double.

      Aircraft Platform will be 570x175m (100 000sqm exactly) or half the size of planned platform that should have been 800x250m. (200 000sqm). But new platform will be built so it can service largest jumbo jets including A380.

      Work on new terminal is expected to be fully completed by May 2016, with terminal being ready for commercial operations by mid 2017.


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    5. Bez uvrede ali dali vi stvarno mislite da ce ZAG u skorijoj buducnosti dostici 5 Mil pax a kamoli taj dupli kapacitet od 11 mil pax.
      INN-NS

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    6. INN, aerodrom je u rukama Francuza, pod koncesijom, i njihova je zadaća isplatiti investiciju, vjerujem da znaju što rade, a ionako se nigdje ne spominju rokovi do kojih bi aerodrom trebao dostići 5 ili 11 milijuna putnika!

      Usput, aerodrom zasad izgleda fantastično i dosta brzo napreduje!

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    7. @4.31 iskreno se nadam da ce terminal doneti novac i koncesionaru ali i Hrvatskoj. Ipak, malo je realno da će bilo koji aerodrom u regiji ikada dostići 10+ milona putnika.

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    8. @3:05 ...onda kakvim fingerima pricate?

      Pogledaj kakav je aerodrom, a nisu se makli pedalj napred do sad...a letovi za Ameriku trebaju poceti iduceg prosecan?
      Mudraci mudruju. Politčari samo pričaju. Treba da se radi alo ljudi kad ćete to razumeti?

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    9. Što se tiče BEG, interkontinentalni letovi mogu da počnu sutra, o tome pričam.

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    10. Anonon 5:54PM: In your dreams baby.

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    11. Izvoli, informiši moje snove.

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    12. Anon 11:29: Yes of course, please read both Saturdays blog as well as todays (Monday). BEG is NOT approved for any intercontinental flights.

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    13. What an idiot at 9:56 AM: BEG has daily intercontinental flights already: Abu Dhabi is not in Europe!

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  6. OT: Sky Greece 763 SX-BPN is flying over Hvar right now towards ATH afer a TATL flight

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  7. Would it be better for the route if either JU codeshares with LO or the other way round? He prices were very low and JU loads were quite bad. I don't know about LO loads.

    YU-AND

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  8. LOT je objavio da se linija za Zagreb ponovno uspostavlja 2.1. 2016.

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      imaš link ?

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    2. Moguće je na site-u LOT-a kupiti karte i za BEG i za ZAG od 02.01.16.

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    3. ^true. You can even buy YYZ to BEG via WAW flights in February although they are the most expensive from all options.

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  9. Steta sto LO napusta LYBE ali se nadam da ce se vratiti sledece godine .
    INN-NS

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    1. Evo ovime pokazujes svoje pravo lice. Clanak govori o LOTu koji privremeno napusta i Beograd i Zagreb. A za tebe je steta samo sto LOT napusta Beograd, ali nije steta sto napusta Zagreb. Ti se nadas da ce se LOT vratiti u Beograd, ali ne i u Zagreb. I onda se bunis kad te ljudi kritkuju da si pristran, neobjektivan i netolerantan

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    2. Pre nego krenete da se svadjate, LOT se vraća na obe destinacije 02.01.16.

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    3. Kakve veze ja imam sa ZAG molim vas , naravno da cu da podrzavam samo INI, BNX i BEG na ovom Blogu.
      A to sto vama smeta sto sam ja iskren i sto nesirim lazno bratstvo jedinstvo nisam ja kriv.
      INN-NS

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    4. Obrni okreni mali je dole poentirao. Objektivno i mene kao nekog ko je iz Beograda, zabole da li ce LOT se vratiti u Zagreb, jer ja od toga nemam nikakvog interesa. Nije da ga branim al nemojte da se pravite kao da ljude iz BG zanima ZG i obrnuto.

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  10. Ot: nezvanicna mapa prosirenja aerodroma Beograd, sa foruma ssc:

    http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=124315637&postcount=4337

    30 fingera, 3 terminala, 2 piste.

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    1. Lepo bi bilo.. ali ne u narednih 5 do 10 godina.

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    2. 2ned runway can't be paralleled close to the main runway so close, there are air traffic rules on this very issue, reason why runways are separated by at least 1000m, exception being if only one runway is used at times as an emergency runway, and I don't see Serbian state paying $100 million for 2nd runway airport doesn't need. Also plans for expansion are clear, 11000 sqm add to current terminal including 4 more gates Air Bridges.


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    3. Enough with the second runway, what one of the members said, BEG needs terminal extension and not 2nd runway. Now, someone might say, BEG needs 2 runways because one needs to be repaired. Well, it is possible to repair the runway with operations. Close one small portion and work on, close another small portion and so on. Also from 12-6 there is limited movement. What most people are forgetting is that not only does it cost to build 2nd runway but there are also costs associated with the maintenance. Even if Serbia had money to spare (which it does not), the 2nd runway is still unnecessary.
      If we exclude ASL waves where there are like 15-20 departures and arrival within 45 min, most of the time the runway is actually DESERTED. By that I mean landing and take off every 20 min.

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    4. and from 12 to 5 there is only 1 arrival ( AirCairo with 4 or 5 weekly flights) and zero departures. EY/ASL AUH flight arrives 5:20 I believe.

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    5. Again Croat or employee of ABG full of wisdom. Get lost with it. ICAO rules are less than 300 m. There is enough space for it.

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    6. Daj boze da se to desi bio bi presrecan , a LYBE bi bio jedini mega Airport u EX YU i ubedljivo najjaci.
      INN-NS

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    7. INN-NS, two runways does not necessarily mean mega airport. BEG can have even 4 runway but still have less than 5 million pax. Companies and the market bring pax not runways.

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    8. G Vaske
      Gde sam ja rekao da bi zbog piste bio mega airport ?
      Mislio sam po velicini u celoj EX YU.
      INN-NS

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    9. Sorry, I thought you were talking about the runway initially.

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    10. Nema veze svako pravi greske :)
      INN-NS

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    11. Here we go again....both with the 2nd runway which has been dealt with on a number of occasions. Now lately even the CEO of BEG have stated that there's no need for it.

      Then INN-SNS, again you get into a thread about one topic and when people (Vaske) is pointing this out to you, your reply is that you were referring to another topic. The same as you did on Wednesday, the topic was the concession, you pointed out that THINGS was to happened on Thursday.....and of course nothing happened. When I questioned you then, you stated that you were giving leads to the BEG-USA agreement.....why do you even bother being a part of this if you can't read and understand the topics???

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    12. Gospodine mentalno opterecini najboljom strankom u Srbiji .
      Ja sam se u opsteno izjasnio da bi bio mega airport po izgledu tog plana a ko ne shvati nisam ja kriv.
      A jos jedan dokaz se dole vidi koliko je normalnije kad komuniciraju ljudi sa potpisom.
      INN-NS

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    13. Potpis je ime i prezime a ne pseudinim.

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    14. Pa ne smete da se potpisete i skracenicom nekom kao A zato sto verovatno malo toga znate o Aviaciji.
      INN-NS

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    15. Pa eto ti se prvi potpisujes pa lupas svaki dan tako da te dve stvari nisu povezane.

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  11. Does JU use ATR on this route? If so, what are the loads?

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    1. It uses A319/B737 and loads ain't great

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    2. It would be nice if there would be an aircraft in JU's fleet that has a capacity between 70-100 passengers, but more range than the ATR.

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    3. ATR has range but not speed. Dash 8 has problem.

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    5. Embraer, Bombardier, Sukhoi, and Mitshubishi all make regional jets. Those are nice.

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  12. Does ASL get catering from two companies? I am asking since I saw before and now two different catering trucks. One is brand new with ASL colors, and other one is albino with some small sign.

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    1. The white ones belong to the airport.

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    2. Ti novih 6-7 Man Euro 6 su od ASL.
      INN-NS

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    3. Tih 6-7 imaju JU logo, ostalih par imaju neku drugu i oni pripadaju aerodromu.

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    4. So if they belong to the airport, does that mean airport has its own catering or are they just renting? If they are renting, why would they? Isn't 6-8 trucks enough even in peak times? I actually think they both 8 since I read a while back some article.

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    5. *bought 8 trucks

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    6. Ne samo sam rekao posto znam da su ih uzeli u DEWACO BG pa sam samo rekao , cini mi se da su od Aerodroma Mercedesi ako se ne varam.
      INN-NS

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    7. ^true, I think they have 8 MAN trucks in ASL colors, 2-3 Mercedes in ASL colors, and 2 albino ones. I thought they would stop using other trucks once MAN once came. Its worth mentioning that those MAN trucks could serve all aircraft except the A380 and B747. Not sure about those old Mercedes ones.

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    8. Man-ovi su 2015 godiste a ovi Mercedesi su po izgledu 2001-2002 godiste . U INN imaju Mercedesi 2009 i bez problema opsluzuju 757 .
      INN-NS

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    9. This headline points towards 7, but I don't know enough...

      http://www.entry.man.eu/rs/sr/vesti-i-saopstenja/man-truck-und-bus/MAN-Importer-Srbija-je-isporucio-7-kamiona-MAN-TGM-15.250-4x2-LL-Euro6-sa-Mallaghan-CT-6000-nadgradnjom-za-Air-Serbia-Catering-205056.html

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    10. ^that is the article I was talking about, and its 7 then.

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  13. http://www.aerotelegraph.com/bei-ryanair-und-etihad-klingeln-die-kassen
    Izvinjavam se na nemackom je ali bi bilo odlicno kad bi EY kupio EI posto bi bilo jeftinih karata za grado0ve u usa gde ASL leteti.
    INN-NS

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    1. I also think so but I think ASL asked to work with EI at some point and they turned them down.

      YU-AND

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    2. To stvarno ne znam nisam cuo a ni procitao .
      INN-NS

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