Sea Air delays launch for a second time

Start-up Sea Air pushes back launch date to July 19

Croatian start-up airline Sea Air has delayed its launch for a second time and modified its planned operations including aircraft type and frequencies. The Osijek-based airline, which was initially to start operations to Germany on May 18, pushed back its launch to June 29 and has now further delayed its start of operations until July 19. “With sincere regret, Sea Air has to announce that we are compelled to delay our flights to Frankfurt, Munich and Stuttgart to July 19, when flights will start according to the published schedule. The reason for the new delay are technical difficulties, precisely, the delay in the delivery of our aircraft. Sea Air operatives are working 24 hours a day in order to solve all difficulties as soon as possible”, the company said in a statement.

Passengers which have booked tickets with the newly established airline will be offered alternative transport. Sea Air initially delayed its May launch after it encountered problems with processing credit card payments. The airline planned to operate daily flights to Frankfurt and Munich and three weekly services to Stuttgart with a Boeing 737-500. However, it has since changed its planned operations. Sea Air now plans to run four weekly flights to Frankfurt and three weekly services to Munich, while its Stuttgart operations remain unchanged. “The carrier carefully selects its aircraft based on demand. For the first two weeks, these flights have a solid load factor but larger aircraft are unnecessary. Therefore, a Saab 340 will be utilised. Later, a Boeing 737 will be used with 132 seats”, the Managing Director of Osijek Airport, Domagoj Marinić, says. The Saab 340 turboprop has the capacity to seat 34 passengers.

Osijek Airport, which handled almost 30.000 passengers last year, anticipates welcoming some 100.000 travellers in 2015 as a result of Sea Air’s new services, if the airline eventually takes off. The carrier plans to appeal to travellers not only from Croatia but also from neighbouring Bosnia and Herzegovina, Serbia and Hungary. “Sea Air will operate as a low cost airline, however, this will not reflect on our service. Our passengers are our guests and will be treated to an experience where safety and efficiency is our priority”, the company previously said. Start-up airlines across the former Yugoslavia have had difficulties in launching operations and almost all have failed. Only this year, Air Croatia, which began services from Zagreb in April, suspended services shortly after. Despite plans to resume operations on June 18, it has not done so. Earlier this year, the Sarajevo-based Bosnian Wand Airlines launched flights to Malmo, Stockholm and Athens with an Airbus A321 aircraft only to suspend all planned operations several days later. Common to all of the start-ups is the use of foreign Air Operators Certificates (AOC).

Comments

  1. Anonymous09:03

    The worst thing is that they have the full support of Osijek Airport, as if they will ever take off

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anonymous10:59

      I dont understand why the director of Osijek Airport is giving interviews as head of this company.

      Is he also director of this company or who is and who owns it, seems they are hiding all the way

      Or maybe its just his interest to keep his job and show media that something is going on at the airport

      Interesting to notice that there is low demand also on Osijek from gastarbeiters who rather take the bus or car home to Baranja from Germany

      Delete
  2. Anonymous09:04

    So the list of failures goes on: Dalmatian, Libertas Air, Air Croatia, Sea Air….

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anonymous12:27

      Croatia Airlines, Trade Air, Limitless Airways, European Coastal are not on the "failure" list. At least two out of four "failures", maybe even all 4 will commence operations, sooner or later (but not very much later). All these is showing that Croatia has potential, and that people there, no matter croatians or foreigners, are doing something to develop their aviation (almost all airportS being upgraded and expanded, too), WITHOUT money of croatian TAXPAYERS. And it can hardly be called failure, quite opposite

      Delete
  3. Wow, starting off with too much capacity. I didn't expect that!

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anonymous09:07

      Whoever thought a B737 would be a good idea to start flights shows how serious this 'airline' is.

      Delete
  4. Anonymous09:07

    Hrvatska posla

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anonymous12:54

      Ta "Hrvastka posla" su :
      4 hrvatske aviokompanije, sa hrvatskim AOC-om, koje zaposljavaju i placaju hrvatske drzavljane i uplacuju poreze u budzet Hrvatske, a da ih pritom gradjani Hrvatske NE FINANSIRAJU,
      Ta "Hrvatska posla" je 7 medjunarodnih aerodroma, od kojih 4 najveca dupliraju kapacitete, grade nove terminale, modernizuju se, a to opet NE FINANSIRA budzet, nego rad tih aerodrome i EU fondovi.
      Ta "Hrvatska posla" su mnogobrojni pokusaji ispitivanja trzista i pokretanja novih poslova i novih aviokompanija po trzisnom modelu. Nekada uspesno, nekada neuspesno, nekada samo sa ciljem "ispipavanja pulsa" za nesto vece sto ce uslediti, a bazira se na iskustvima iz prethodnih pokusaja.
      I na kraju, kamo srece da u ostalim ex-Yu drzavama ima vise poslova kao sto su ova "Hrvatska posla"

      Delete
    2. Осталим државама? Мени само падају на памет Црна Гора и Босна.
      Остале државе су мање више ок и свака функционише по моделу који јој одговара.

      Чини ми се као да тврдиш да бивше југословенске државе каскају за Хрватском што и није баш истина.

      Delete
    3. Anonymous16:35

      @Nemjee,

      Stvarno ne znam koji deo poruke nisi razumeo : Hrvatska ima CETIRI funkcionalne aviokompanije, SVE ostale drzave, ukljucujuci i Srbiju, imaju JEDNU ili NIJEDNU. Sve ostale drzave, ukljucujuci Srbiju, imaju po jedan ili dva aerodroma /jedino BIH 4/, a HR ih ima 7. U svim ostalim drzavama, osim Makedonije, NEMA nikakvih pojekata za start-apove, nove kompanije, jedino u HR. Pa onda ne znam bas sta je tu toliko nerazumljivo

      Delete
    4. Ја сам врло добро разумео, само сам хтео на фин начин да кажем да је поређење глупо јер том локигом неко може да тврди да је хрватско ваздухопловство напредније од мађарског...

      Што се тиче Србије, не схватам ту опсесију са бројем аеродрома. Београд и Нови Сад, као два највећа града у држави, имају заједнички аеродром јер су удаљени свега 80 км један од другог.
      Као што врло добро знамо, захваљујући Визеру и Ниш је коначно добио редовне летове те је покривен и јужни део Србије.
      Градови између Београда и Ниша могу да гравитирају ка било ком од ова два аеродрома...

      Значи, данас имамо два фукнционална аеродрома који лепо покривају све важне градове. Можда кроз 4 до 5 година Визер размотри могућност увођења летова из Краљева али за то сада нема потребе. Значи Србија је добро покривена и уопште нема потребе за додатним аеродромима.

      Ако ћемо да поредимо Хрватску онда ајде да је упоредимо са, на пример, Кипром.
      Кипар има око 850.000 становника и на острву постоје три аеродрома: Никозија, Ларнака и Пафос. Пафос се налази 156 км западно од Никозије и повезани су са фантастичним аутопутем.
      Ларнака има око 5.5 милиона путника док Пафос има око 2.5 милиона. Заједно ова два аеродрома опслуже преко 8 милиона путника годишње.
      Ларнака је база за Еџиан као и за Блуер док Рајанер има базу од два ваздухоплова на Пафосу.
      Ако погледамо које авио-компаније лете за Кипар и онда их упоредимо са оним које лете за Хрватску видећемо једну јако очигледну разлику што у броју компанија а што и у квалитету самих. Исто тако, од 8+ милиона путника, око 2.3 милиона су туристи.

      Као што сам хиљаду пута до сада поновио, нема смисла да се пореде Србија и Хрватска. Србија је сличнија Чешкој, Мађарској, Румунији... док је Хрватска сличнија Кипру, Грчкој, Малти...

      Поздрав.

      Delete
    5. Anonymous21:17

      @ Nemjee

      1. Kipar nije u ex-yu. Ovo je blog o ex-yu avijaciji. ja sam komentarisao stvari u okviru bloga. Takodje i u okviru danasnje "zadane teme" o aviokompanijama (uspesnim ili neuspesnim) sa podrucja ex-yu. Kipar me uopste ne zanima i nemam nameru ni da ga komentarisem, ni da na ovom blogu o njemu polemisem.

      2.Nigde nisam spominjao ukupan broj putnika na svim aerodromoma pojedine ex-yu zemlje, ni strane kompanije koje na njih lete, sto citam u tvom odgovoru, dakle opet pokazujes da ne razumes, ili da kao ne razumes, ono o cemu sam pisao.

      3. Uhvatio si se aerodorma kao pijan plota. Ja uopste ne osporavam pravo Srbije da ima trenutno 2 funkcionalna aerodroma. Ono sto opet nisi razumeo je da se, za razliku od Srbije, u Hrvatskoj ulaze OGROMAN novac u razvoj mnogobrojnih aerodroma, sto nije slucaj ni u BEG ni u INI, jer za INI drzava nema para, a BEG pokriva nerentabilnost ASL-a.

      4.Ono sto uopste nisi komentarisao, jer ti "ne odgovara", a sto je tacka 1. i glavna poanta mog teksta je da HR ima 4 fun kcionalne aviokompanije, za razliku od Srbije koja ima jednu (uopste nisam ulazio u to je li ta jedna "dobra" ili "losa", "velika" ili "mala". Govorio sam o tome da su SVE HR aviokompanije PROFITABILNE, sto je danas, uostalom, skoro jedino merilo svega, a sto nazalost, bar za sada, nije slucaj sa jedinom aviokompanijom u Srbiji.

      5.Poredjenje Srbije sa Rumunijom i Ceskom? Stvarno ne znam kako se usudjujes napisati ovako nesto i ocekivati da se neko sa tim slozi. Pa pobogu, civilne avijacije ovih zemlalja se DRASTICNO razlikuju od one u Srbiji - i po broju aviokompanija, i po njihovoj profitabilnosti, i po broju putnika, i po EU statusu i pravilima, i po broju aerodoroma, i po vrsti putnika, ama bas po svemu

      6. Zao mi je ako ti tako jako tesko pada da HR ima razvijeni civilni vazdusni saobracaj od SRB, ali to je jednostavno tako. To ne govorim ja, to govore brojke koje ti uporno pokusavas zanemariti jer se ne uklapaju u neku tvoju sliku necega Bogom danog.

      Delete
    6. Sedam svinja22:28

      So you are saying how it is wrong that Serbia subsidizes Air Serbia/Airport from taxpayers money but at the same time proud yourself how Croatian airports are getting rebuilt with EU funds? Whose money is that and where is it coming from? You just can't be more hypocrite, can't you.

      Delete
    7. Anonymous23:12

      prisustvo EY kazes, a gde su BA, AF, IB, TP, SN, LY, SK, AY, EI, KL,.... koji svi lete za Hrvatsku, a ne lete za Srbiju
      Buduce vreme ne priznajem, da li ce ulaganja biti, to cemo tek videti, ulaganja u HR su sadasnjost, ne mogucnost u buducnosti
      Let za YYZ nije otkazan nego odlozen za petak jer je puklo staklo na kokpitu. Prvi let je imao 220 putnika za ZAG i 36 za ATH,
      LCC i turiszcke agencije = no comment; znas li ti uopste sta je turisticki charter a sta LCC
      rast BEG zbog tranzita je jedimo tacno sto si napisao ali upravo potvrdjuje moju tezu da deo putnika koji u HR cine turisti, u SRB cine tranziti.
      CTN ima ugovore sa skoro svim clanicama alijanse, ukljucujuci SQ,UA, kao i svoje kodove na letovima SK za Severnu Ameriku
      ASL NIJE PROFITABILNA aviokompanija.
      Pravilima EU dozvolene su subvencije za (neke, retke, neprofitabilne, domace) linije od posebnog interesa. To nije isto sto i generalno subvencionisanje drzave cele kompanije i njebih n ekontrolisanih troskova, sto je slucaj u SRB (ova tacka vazi i za onog gore sto me zove licemernim. Nisam ja bato licemer nego ti ne znas kako funkcionisu stvari).
      Sezonalnost u HR je puno izrazenija, ne izvlaci brojke iz konteksta, ti bi izgleda meso iz sarme a za mene kupus, e pa nece moci ove noci
      Tako da je hrvatska avijacija naprednija od srpske i kraj price, ma koliko ti zeleo da bude drugacije. I sada gasim kompjuter i prestajem sa sizifovim poslom nepotrebnog dokazivanja cinjenica nedokazanom derletu

      Delete
    8. Мајко мила... као прво, понављам. Цела ова дискусија је тако бесмислена јер поредимо два потпуно различита тржишта. Но добро...

      1. Бивша Југославија није Северна Кореја те ако ћемо озбиљно анализирати развој ситуације онда морамо да поредимо ова тржишта са њиховим панданима. Као што више пута рекао, Србија и Хрватска нису у истој групи те је бесмислено што си уопште започео ову дискусију. Искористио сам пример Кипра јер је њихово тржиште слично хрватском. Што се мене тиче могли смо то да урадимо са било којим другим аеродромом из исте категорије.

      2. Број путника је овде често спомињан као један од аргумената тако да сам га искористио невезано за оно шта си ти написао.

      3. Бабе и жабе (опет). Судбина Србије и Хрватске се знатно разликовала по распаду Југославије. Одавно је Хрватска постала популарна као туристичко одредиште. Логичније је то што су брже улагали у своје аеродроме него Србија.
      Аеродром покрива нерентабилност Ер Србије? То је делимично тачно али оно што је још занимљивије је то што аеродром и дан данас улаже у своју модернизацију из сопствених средстава иако 'га музе' Ер Србија. Да не спомињем то што је аеродром и даље јако профитабилан.

      4. Званично, Ер Србија је профитабилна баш као што су Кроација и Адрија. Оно што ти ниси споменуо а мислим да је јако важно је то што Визер има базу у Београду. Подједнако је важно то што иако су им подигли цене они нису напустили Србију. Можда бирократкси гледано нису домаћа фирма али у сваком другом смислу једнако су важни као и Ер Србија, посебно што лете из Србије и током зиме.

      5. Када сам поредио Србију са Румунијом и Чешком искључиво сам мислио на врсту путника и на смер могућег развоја тржишта. Никада нисам рекао да су идентични већ да они, за разлику од Хрватске, Грчке... не могу да се ослоне на летњу сезону када број путника експлодира.

      6. Ја никада нисам рекао да је Србија развијенија већ сам рекао да свако ко се иоле разуме у ваздухопловство схвата да су ова два тржишта тако различита да је крајње смешно поредити их. Да Србија има обалу и летњу сезону ситуација би данас била драстично другачија.

      На крају, поновићу још једном, не треба поредити бабе и жабе.

      Delete
    9. Anonymous01:19

      Nemjee jer te mogu zamoliti da pišeš na latinici. Dobar dio nas rođen je prekasno da bi učio čirilicu, a google translator vrlo loše prevodi čirilicu, te moraš tekst ovolike veličine cjepkati u 4 dijela da bi ga uopće hito prevesti. Pa copy-paste, briši, sve to ozbiljno traje. Vjerujem da tebi nije problem pisati latinicom. Unaprijed hvala.

      Delete
    10. Anonymous01:26

      Croatian airports were not and are not rebuilt with EU fonds, exempt Dubrovnik and that is partly.

      Pula – equipment after war by airport money
      Rijeka – rebuilt by airport money
      Osijek – total rebuilt after war devastation by Croatian money
      Brač – build by Croatian money
      Split – rebuilt by airport and Croatian money + commercial credit
      Zadar – total rebuilt after war devastation by Croatian money
      Zagreb – concession
      Dubrovnik – total rebuilt after war devastation by Croatian money, new expansion by EU funds

      Delete
    11. Aэrologic01:41

      Fact is even with its 7+ airports (comprised mostly of charter seasonal traffic by foreign companies) if Croatia was to disappear today, nobody would even notice. If Air Serbia was to disappear, well, it would be noticed a little. You know, that's like a difference between feeling nothing and feeling a little bit, if you know what i mean(?).

      Delete
    12. AnonymousJuly 3, 2015 at 1:19 AM

      Actually, the best and simplest solution would be to just stick to English as not all visitors to this blog are from ex-YU.

      Delete
    13. Aэrologic10:52

      Fact is even with its 7+ airports (comprised mostly of charter seasonal traffic by foreign companies) if Croatia (CTN) was to disappear today, nobody would even notice. If Air Serbia was to disappear, well, it would be noticed a little. You know, that's like a difference between feeling a little bit and feeling nothing at all, if you know what i mean(?).

      Delete
  5. Anonymous09:08

    I wonder what sort of capital these airlines have behind them if they are unable to even lease an aircraft or have problems with processing credit card payments. The aviation industry is not for everyone. You actually have to have big financial backing to do something.

    ReplyDelete
  6. Anonymous09:09

    Does anyone know who actually owns this airline. Is it Croatians or someone else? Thanks.

    ReplyDelete
  7. Starting an airline / charter of air freight business requires so much in term or regulatory approvals that I don't think half of these people have a real idea of what they are getting themselves into. What makes it worse is that nearly everyone who can make money off you while you try to start will say yes. Airport will say yes, please pay a deposit, aircraft leasing companies will say yes, please sign a contract and pay a deposit, website managing companies will say yes and it goes on and on until you get to the government regulators and they give you a big fat no or some say yes but others say no. Not an easy business to get off the ground let alone make money off once airborne.

    ReplyDelete
  8. Purger10:12

    E SAD ĆE LCC BITI SA SAABOM 340!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA...

    Prvi shit je ponovno prolongiranje letenje za 19. srpanj. Izgubiti dio top sezone je enormna glupost, izgubiti povjerenje putnika već drugim prolongiranjem je samoubojstvo. Konačno tko bi normalan kupio kartu u kompaniji koja je već napravila toliko gluposti i problema putnicima koji su imali povjerenje.

    Drugi shit je činjenica da su nakon kemijanja sa različitim avionima od super neisplativog 737-500 kojeg se svi rješavaju i kojim se ne može komercijalno letjeti čak ni kada ga posjeduješ, pa preko prastere i prežedne devetke koja više nije dobra ni za chartere a kamoli za LCC, a oba aviona su puno prevelika za Osijek, sada odlučili preći na Saab. Turboprop sa manje od 70 mjesta je neisplativ i kada ima popunjenost od 100%. On ima rezona samo kada leti PSO linije i kada netko financira razliku isplativosti. Svi su se rješili tih aviona, ali osječka firma će sa njima biti isplativa. Čestitam!

    Treći shit je LCC sa Saab 340. Da ovo uspije bio bi to prvi primjer u povijesti zrakoplovstva. Revolucija. Naravno da tako nešto ne može uspjeti. LCC ima upravo drugu koncepciju, veliki i brzi avione, a ne minijaturni, spori i žedni.

    Četvrti shit je Saab 340 za FRA. Ovo je ludilo. Pa jel se itko raspitao koliko košta FRA i zašto cjenovna politika FRA (LHR, CDG...) demotivira minijaturne avione tj. motivira što veće ptice sa manje frekvencija a više putnika po jedinici. Kako bi to moglo biti isplativo nekoj minijaturnoj firmi iz Hrvatske, a nije svima ostalima.

    Stoga ponavljam svoje stavove od prije par mjeseci:

    1. DILETANTIZAM NAJVIŠEG STUPNJA. Ovi jednostavno nemaju pojma o zrakoplovstvu.

    2. Kompanija ili neće poletjeti uopće ili će letjeti tek par dana i bankrotirati.

    3. Svatko tko kupi kartu sa njima ili je lud ili mazohista.

    ReplyDelete
  9. OT:
    Yesterday Wizzair started their Basel - Ohrid flights with 179 passengers from Basel to Ohrid and 130 passengers from Ohrid to Basel! I wish them all the best and hopefully more airlines will start flights from Ohrid

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anonymous12:21

      Pre tačno nedelju dana pokrenuta je direktna linija low cost avio-prevoznika "Wizz Air" za Malme. Do sada ,zaključno sa današnjim danom, realizovana su ukupno 4 leta na ovoj ruti. Prema podacima Wizz Air-a, kako je rečeno na prošlonedeljnoj konferenciji za novinare na niškom aerodromu, popunjenost aviona na destinaciji Malme - NIŠ - Malme je između 80% i 90%.

      Seems like INI is doing good as well. :)

      Delete
    2. Anonymous12:21

      Good job to both of them.

      Wizz Air stated during a press conference that flights to INI from MMX have a loadfactor between 80% and 90%.

      Delete
    3. Anonymous12:22

      Lol... at the same time :D

      Delete
    4. Anonymous12:30

      Interesting how Wizz Air could carry roughly 650.000 passengers in Serbia next year.

      Delete
    5. Anonymous13:44

      Niš should consider gradually increasing taxes (if they get more flights). Also Tuzla and Ohrid should revise their deals. Those contracts are originally made for attracting companies to an unclear and doubtful market. If it proves that there is a demand, then you can increase taxes at least a little bit. I think it won't make flights less filled since the prices from Niš and Tuzla are not too much cheaper than Belgrade ones. Of course I suggest a small increase, not AV SNS one.

      Delete
    6. Anonymous19:23

      INI blog says another LCC was rejected by Nis because they asked for 200.000 eur subvention. They don't say what LCC it was and what other fees were talked about.

      Delete
    7. Probably Ryanair. They are famous for insane subvention requests...

      Delete
  10. Anonymous12:09

    I'm surprised at how many people actually buy tickets with these airline. When Air Croatia suspended flights you could see hundreds of people who bought tickets writing on ther Facebook page. I also remember the same thing happened when Dalmatian disappeared over night.

    ReplyDelete
  11. Anonymous12:46

    Debrecen, Cluj, Vidin, Nis, Pristina, Mostar, Ohrid, with two or three turboprops (preferably bit larger than SF340) to Osijek, and than from Osijek two B733's to Munich, Stuttgart, Frankfurt, but also Dublin, Milano, Rome, Madrid could actually work

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anonymous12:57

      I few days ago it was mentioned here in an article that Sea Air was interested in flying to Nis and then shuttling passengers through Osijek to Germany. With a Saab it now makes much more sense and it could work.

      Delete
  12. Anonymous13:32

    Ja razmatram ozbiljno da otvorim Aviokompaniju po imenu Serbian Airways i imacemo baze u BNX i BEG.
    A kapitala ima tako da nije problem.
    INN-NS

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anonymous14:00

      Ja mislim da ti to zasluzujes, samo napred.

      Delete
    2. Anonymous14:05

      Pa vi verovatno mislite da pricam gluposti ali dobro .
      INN-NS

      Delete
    3. Anonymous14:07

      Predlažem da svoj projekat predstaviš na Kickstarter-u, svi ćemo ti pomoći.

      Delete
    4. Anonymous14:19

      Ne to je previse komplikovano i ja hocu sam da budem gazda posto u HR ima toliko pokusaja pa da i ja probam u Srbiji.
      Planirano je 8 A319
      2 A320
      1 A321
      1 A330
      INN-NS

      Delete
    5. Anonymous14:35

      Nemoj samo da budes konkurencija tvojoj obozanovoj kompaniji

      Delete
    6. Anonymous14:41

      IGNORE the child. Responces only envourage his 'glupavnost' which is oh so boring and takes away from this blog.

      Delete
    7. Anonymous14:48

      Ne daj boze sve u Saradnji sa ASL mozda i kupim nekoliko Akcija .
      INN-NS

      Delete
    8. Anonymous15:34

      @2.41pm Na mladjima svet ostaje! Glupavan Vam je Vs comment!

      Delete
    9. Probaj, pa ce tvoja Air Srbijica da te proguta u mraku. Mnogo se igras airline managera na faceu. Moja Nisava Airlines ima ERJ 190-200 komada 10, B738 komada 5, B739 komada 5, B787-8 komada 5 i A320-200 komada 5. U planu je nabavka 747-8i... lol

      Delete
    10. Anonymous12:08

      INN-NS trebao bi ti jos da dodas na tvoj spisak
      2 B787-9
      2 A380

      Crowfund otvori i Kickstarted i idemo, mozda skupis za koju povratnu kartu pare:)

      Delete
  13. Anonymous14:31

    OT:ZAG

    Lipanj 2015: 248438
    Lipanj 2014: 243984

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Belgrade growth has been pathetic as well.

      June 2014: 451.324
      June: 2015: 461.490 (+2%)

      So far this year there were 2.137.489 passengers, 7% more than last year.

      Delete
    2. Interesting how this year both Zagreb and Belgrade growth has been similar with low percentage growth in March and now June too.

      Delete
    3. Anonymous08:43

      SKP was also slow last month.

      Delete
  14. Nikola15:52

    OT:
    Qatar Airways svakodnevno od Dohe do Beograda

    http://www.aviokarta.net/vesti/3204-qatar-airways-svakodnevno-od-dohe-do-beograda/

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anonymous15:54

      To je stara vest, vise puta objavljena i sazvakana ovde... Uradi search pa ces je naci.

      Delete
    2. Anonymous15:55

      Od 2016 se razdvaja linija i postoji mogucnost da ce nekim danima leteti 788 !
      INN-NS

      Delete
    3. Anonymous16:00

      Lupas gluposti

      Delete
    4. Anonymous16:04

      Za sta lupam tacno gluposti Gospodine Anonymous ?
      INN-NS

      Delete
    5. Anonymous16:20

      Today's flight was operated via SOF so I guess these direct flights start from tomorrow?

      Delete
    6. Anonymous16:22

      Ne nego od marta 2016 .
      INN-NS

      Delete
    7. Anonymous16:41

      Upravo sam dobio insider info da QR od prekosutra pocinje da leti sa A380 2 puta dnevno DOH-BNX-LAX i DOH-INN-SFO, samo za INN-NS-a, a od one tamo sledece nedelje cetiri puta dnevno isto A380 dva puta dnevno nonstop za BEG i po jednom za Nis i Kraljevo

      Delete
    8. Aviokarte.net reported that lines will most likely separate during March of next year, but of course they will send A320 aircraft. If I remember correctly when ZAG was separated from BUD the flights were 4 times direct and 3 times via BUD and then after certain time they became daily. I bet same will happen with these routes. Does anybody know distribution of number of pax from these routes? Also how is QR doing in ZAG?

      Delete
    9. Anonymous19:20

      Pa nisam rekao da ce biti 788 nego da ce ici nekim danima preko leta.
      INN-NS

      Delete
    10. "Pa nisam rekao da ce biti 788 nego da ce ici nekim danima preko leta."
      I know you were referring to only few flights, but I highly doubt that since loads are not good at all ( at least that was case before). They will def improve with direct flights but not by that much to send B787. I am pretty sure BUD nor OTP have had a single QR flight with aircraft larger than A321.

      Delete
    11. Anonymous20:52

      I bec dok je leteo 320 / 321 je imao LF od 80% a od kad je prebacemo na 788 naglo se popravio LF.
      INN-NS

      Delete
    12. Anonymous21:22

      Da, samo je 20-30% LF za BEG i 80% LF-a za VIE DRASTICNA RAZLIKA

      Delete
    13. Anonymous21:39

      A drago mi je da imate uvid u tacan LF QR .
      INN-NS

      Delete
    14. Anonymous21:47

      Znaci svi mi ostali ovde nemamo nikakva znanja, nikakve podatke, nikakve uvide u nista, samo ti imas. A sta ako ja recimo radim u QR?

      Delete
    15. Anonymous21:51

      Ako radite za QR onda je jako jadno sto pljujete sopstvenu kompaniju koja vam daje za hleb .
      Nikad nisam rekao da vi nemate veze .
      INN-NS

      Delete
    16. Anonymous21:54

      Ja pljujem sopstvenu kompaniju jer BEG ima minimalni LF? Ti stvarno nisi normalan

      Delete
    17. Anonymous22:35

      Ja jesam normalan nije vase da odajete ako je Lf los tako stetite ugledu vase kompanije koja vam daje za Hleb.
      INN-NS

      Delete
    18. Anonymous22:50

      1. Nisam pisao imena iz PIL-a, ni iz GenDec-a, tako da nisam ugrozio niciji identitet ni dao licne podatke putnika ili posade.

      2. LF se ne "odaje", to nije nikakva sluzbena tajna, i nikakav "top sikrit", nego lako proverljiv podatak.

      3. Nizak LF za BEG ne steti ugledu QR-a jer je ukupan LF, zajedno sa SOF prihvatljiv i isplativ.

      4 Ovo nije blog o socijalnim pitanjima ni o mojoj plati ni o mom hlebu, nego o ex.yu avijaciji. A manipulacije temama i prebacivanje sa teme "avijacija" na temu "licno" je pokazatelj nedostatka argumenata, trolovanja i botovanja

      Delete
    19. Anonymous22:53

      this discussion is going way off topic since you are comparing Belgrade with Vienna which are completely two different markets. Also anon 9:22 stated something which we all know and that is no secret that QR has a terrible LF as of now to BEG ( LF is subject to change if they go direct and do aggressive dumping).

      Delete
    20. Anonymous23:09

      Niko nije rekao da se to nemoze lako proveriti nego nije lepo sto vi o tome pricate kao navodno zaposleni:
      I mngo bi bilo lepse kad bi svi bili potpisani na ovom blogu bilo kako onda bi bilo manje ovakvih komentara.
      INN-NS

      Delete
    21. Anonymous23:20

      a kakvih to "ovakvih" komentara? mislis onih koji se usudjuju da kazu istinu da BEG na nekoj linijii neke kompanije ima los LF ili da je ASL mala beznacajna neprofitabilna kompanija?

      Delete
    22. Anonymous23:23

      I slazem se, mnogo bi bilo lepse kada na ovom blogu ne bilo ni tebe ni tvojih komentara
      u potpisu : Corbast Pasulj

      Delete
    23. Anonymous23:32

      Nije problem reci to nego sto vi to mnogo uvelicavate i sto sirite mngo ne istina .
      Pa ne znam ko je opet danas poceo da provocira.
      INN-NS

      Delete
    24. ATR 72-50000:02

      "sto sirite mngo ne istina ."
      Are you saying that QR has a LF higher than 40%? In combination with Sofia QR is doing fine but with BEG alone hell no.

      Delete
  15. Anonymous18:01

    OT: Belgrade Airport expansion phase 2, worth €20 million, commenced.

    http://www.ekapija.com/website/sr/page/1182744/Ma%C5%A1inoprojekt-kopring-izvodi-najve%C4%87i-deo-radova-na-aerodromu-Nikola-Tesla-Zapo%C4%8Det-investicioni-ciklus-vredan-20-mil-EUR

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anonymous19:15

      Tender is open until Nov 1 but they already announced company that will win the contract?

      Delete
    2. Anonymous20:47

      Tender? In Serbia today? Com'n, don't be ridiculous!

      Delete
  16. Anonymous18:58

    WOW!
    Now that is something new!

    ReplyDelete
  17. Anonymous21:19

    OT: Turkish A321 IST-LHR diverted to BEG tonight

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anonymous22:17

      Could be medical, it is returning to air now

      Delete

Post a Comment

EX-YU Aviation News does not tolerate insults, excessive swearing, racist, homophobic or any other chauvinist remarks or provocative posts with the intention of creating further arguments. A full list of comment guidelines can be found here. Thank you for your cooperation.