Monday, October 19, 2015

Sea Air expands from Osijek, Mostar and Pristina

Sea Air to expand across the former Yugoslavia

Croatian start-up airline Sea Air will expand its operation from Osijek, Mostar and Pristina this winter season, utilising all three of its aircraft. The carrier will launch operations from Osijek to London Stansted on November 9, complementing its existing services to Germany. Flights will operate once per week, each Monday, with a Boeing 737-300 aircraft. Furthermore, the airline still plans to fly from Osijek to Kuwait City via Tbilisi. The much-delayed service is now set to be introduced on November 15. The new route launches will benefit Osijek Airport and help boost passenger numbers during the slow winter months, when it is only served by Trade Air's commuter domestic flights. During the first nine months, Osijek Airport handled 24.80 passengers, an increase of 9.8% compared to the same period last year. "Sea Air never planned to maintain its services on a seasonal basis only", it said in a statement.

This week, Sea Air will launch four weekly flights from Osijek to Pristina. These will be followed up by services from Pristina to Dusseldorf (October 21), Basel (October 22), Munich (October 23), Tirana (October 24) and Stuttgart (October 25). Meanwhile, in cooperation with the Bosnian tour operator Pro Pak Hercegovina, Sea Air has established the first post-war service between Mostar and Stuttgart. "From October 24, each Wednesday, Friday and Sunday, we will operate an Osijek - Pristina - Tirana service. Starting November 9, passengers will have the opportunity to fly to London via Osijek and, if this service proves popular, we will consider opening nonstop flights from Mostar to London as well", Mario Glišić, the head of Pro Pak Hercegovina says. He adds, "Due to strong interest from pilgrims visiting the Medjugorje sight, flights from Mostar to Poland will also be introduced, with the launch date to be announced in late October".

Sea Air maintains services with three wet-leased aircraft, a Boeing 737-300, a corporate B737 jet with the capacity to seat sixty passengers, and a Saab 340. The airline, which launched operations on August 23, does not hold its own Air Operator's Certificate, using the one from Malta's Maleth Aero instead. "Sea Air will do its best to obtain a new AOC within the next year from the Croatian Civil Air Office", the company says. Start-up airlines across the former Yugoslavia have had difficulties in launching operations and almost all have failed. Only this year, Air Croatia, which began services from Zagreb in April, suspended operations shortly after. Common to most start-ups is the use of foreign AOCs.

94 comments:

  1. Good decision to fly from Pristina as a lot of money can be made, especially with the subsidies offered by Pristina Airport. If they plan to base an aircraft there the financial assistance from PRN is huge.

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    1. They even have a special website for their Pristina flights

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    2. Pristina flights will be much more popular than those from Osijek

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    3. Ahh ok. I asked me before why they don't "park" their aircrafts in PRN airport, because Osijek-Pristina flights should be, in point of view, not so profitable. Thanks for your explanation.

      The special website for PRN flights is here: www.seaair.ch
      Two weeks ago, they sent sms to (almost!) all Albanian-Kosovar who live in Switzerland to inform that this company will start to operate and that we should visit this website. I don't know how they obtain our mobile phone numbers... Legal, not legal?

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  2. I'm actually surprised that they are still around. Thought they would go bankrupt within a week.

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    1. I'm a Kosovar who live in Switzerland since 1995 and I want to tell you that I don't have enough faith in this new "airline company" (if we can call it a airline company). Take a look at their website, it's just a joke. There are many grammar and spelling mistakes like "Basel-Muehlhouse" or "London/Stanstead". Just to put my credit card's numbers to buy a ticket would scare me... They don't have even their own Air Operator's Certificate. I know that aviation is the safest way to travel (statistics tell it), but it's safe only if the company is serious and it doesn't seem to be the case here. Finally, they sent me a sms a few weeks ago. How did they get my mobile phone number???? In conclusion, I will continue to fly with Swiss, Edelweiss, Easyjet, Germania, Adria or Wizz and I would take a parachute with me if I had been forced to fly with Sea Air and their old 737 and Saab aircrafts. I don't know why, but it reminds me of Belle Air...

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  3. I would never book a ticket with them but there are obviously people that would. As long as they increase passenger numbers in Osijek I'm happy.

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    1. I'm one of the people that flew with them. From Munich. I normally wouldn't but it was an emergency and I had to get home as soon as possible. They also offered a reasonable price. All crew on board is foreign, including the pilots but the service is good. Catering is provided by a restaurant so it is very good and portions are huge. They also offer drinks and it's all free of charge. Load factor wasn't great. I will also wait for them to get more established before I use them on a regular basis but at that moment they were my only option and it wasn't even closely as bad as I thought it would be

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    2. If they were flying somewhere I needed to go and the price was competitive I would consider flying them, but only if I bought the ticket 1-2 days in advance because you never know when an outfit like this will stop flying.

      Something doesn't make sense. ACMI leased planes with foreign crews are not cheap, and if loads and yields are low, how are they still flying? Who is paying for it?

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    3. I found out that the owner of Sea Air is Mr Nando Kos who is based in Germany.

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  4. I wonder if they have applied to fly those PSO routes in Croatia?

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    1. No, you must have a Croatian AOC to apply for those.

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  5. Does anyone have any links to Sea Air's Facebook page? I can't find them.

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    1. I don't think they have one

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    2. www.sea-air.hr
      For Pristina flights: www.seaair.ch

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  6. The way these guys are going, I wouldn't be surprised if they start flying from Belgrade and Podgorica too.

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    1. I doubt it. They only fly in cooperation with tour operators. There are a heap agents who want to sell tickets between Kosovo and Germany. They don't care what airline it is as long as they have a plane. I don't see any tour operator in Serbia which is strong enough to fill a plane on any route. I could see them flying only on some summer charters to Egypt or Turkey.

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    2. Agree with the above comment.

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  7. OK još bi i moglo proći:
    Osijek - London Stansed (9.11.) jednom tjedno, 733
    Mostar - Stuttgart

    A sad debilane na 40. potenciju.
    Priština - Dusseldorf (21.10) - konkurencija Gemanwingsu i Germaniji
    Priština - Basel (22.10.) - konkurencija easyJetu i Germaniji
    Priština - Munich (23.10.) - konkurencija Adriji (zapravo Luthansi) i Germaniji
    Priština - Tirana (24.10.), tri puta tjedno - puno premalo, treba svaki dan ili bolje ne ulaziti u to avanturu
    Priština - Stuttgart (25.10.) - konkurencija Germanwingsu i Germaniji
    Osijek - Priština (21.10), četiri puta tjedno - za koga, do vraga
    Osijek-Tbilisi-Kuwait (15.11.) jednom tjedno 733, pa tko će tu letjeti????

    Pa ovi ludi nemaju ni najmanjeg pojma. Oni kreću konkurirati easyJetu, Germanwingsu, Lufthansi, kane letjeti gdje već lete po dva jaka igrača (na čak 4 planirane linije imaju po dva jaka konkurenta). I to nepoznata firma sa prastarim i neisplativim avionom!?!?!?!

    Ovo će završiti kao i fijasko u Tirani!!! Pa jel tamo rade pučkoškolci koji ni ne provjere tko leti na linijama pa kažu ajmo probati, a onda se iznenade kada bude fijasko u prodaji?????

    Nije mi jasno kako, do vraga, oni još uopće lete? Odakle novac za ovakve gluposti? Pa ni jednu jedinu stvar nisu napravili logičnom. To novce sigurno ne donosi!!!!!

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    1. Calm down. As long as your do not have money in play.

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    2. Pristina - Tirana je tri sata auto putem.

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    3. Anonymous 10:26 AM
      Smeta me ljudska glupost i diletantizam.

      Još više me smetaju ljudi koji će prije ili kasnije izgubiti novac kupovinom karte.

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    4. Resi se onda tih komunjarskih manira. Svako je prepametan za sebe.

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    5. Komunjarske manire? Poštovani gospodine ja ni jednog jedinog dana staža nemam u komunističkom sustavu, nikad mi nitko nije bio u partiji, niti imam i najmanjeg komunističkog nazora u svojoj glavi. I sam ima uspješnu kompaniju.

      I da ne raspravljamo o tome koje je to čudnovato utemeljeno proučavanje tržišta reklo da će iz Osijeka biti putnika za Kuvajt, ali konkurirati easyJetu i Germaniji ili Germaniji i Germanwingsu istovremeno sa prastarim i neisplativim 737-300 i potpuno nepoznatom kompanijom može stvarno samo... no dobro neka ljudi sami nadopišu riječ. Pa ni Lufthansa ne uspjeva konkurirati easyJetu, ali novopečena kompanijica će to uspjeti. Ma čestitam na takvoj logici i meni "komunjari" koja to vidi drugačije.

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  8. Good news for Osijek!

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  9. Osijek-Tbilisi round ticket lowest price? Anyone knows?
    Can't find info on the net.

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    1. Take a look on their website
      http://www.sea-air.hr/

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    2. I just looked and can't find anything.

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  10. Return Osijek - London Stansted ticket is 255 EUR (taxes included). Is that too expensive?

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    1. Scratch that question. I just looked up Air Serbia BEG-LHR on the same dates (16th November outbound, 23rd inbound) and it costs 236 EUR and I don't think you can really compare Sea Air and Air Serbia.

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    2. Not to mention that one flies to Stansted while the other to Heathrow.

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    3. So what? Not everybody loves LHR madness... It's not like they fly to LTN

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    4. I was referring to the costs at both LHR and STN which only goes to show that Sea Air is ripping its passengers off.

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  11. Lufthansa
    Munich-Zagreb
    ponedjeljak 19.10.2015. u 11:25
    A319 umjesto Embraer 195

    98%, čak je i business klasa bila poprilično velika i puna.


    Lufthansa
    Toulouse-Munich
    ponedjeljak 19.10.2015. u 6:25
    Embraer E-195

    100%, ni jednog mjesta slobodnog!

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    1. A319 umjesto E195 i još toliko pun? U oktobru? Svaka čast. Purger i u petak je let za Zurich iz Zagreba bio pun, jel tako?

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    2. Da i ja sam se iznenadio da u listopadu ide veći avion i da je još gotovo pun. U petak je ZAG-ZRH bio također prepun. Ujutro su međunarodni odlasci (oko 8:30) bili krcati kao u vrhuncu sezone. Ljudi su jedni drugima "hodali po glavama".

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    3. Vi ozbiljno nazivate A319 "veci avion"?

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    4. Actually, the seat difference between the Airbus and the E-195 is only about 15 seats. Both ZAG and BEG have been receiving the Airbus because the Embraer fleet was being moved over to OS.

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    5. Actually difference is 22 seats (LH A319 has 138 and CL E-195 has 116 seats). And for sure that is not small difference.

      And LH was not forced to change plane because of Regional jets shortage. LH (CL) in this moment has 24 E-195, 9 E-190, 14 CRJ900 so that is 46 regional jets + 10 E-195 in EN = 56 regional jets.

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    6. Yes BUT all throughout the winter Embraer jets will be slowly moved to Austrian Airlines so many routes are starting to get the Airbus from now due to scheduling of both aircraft and pre-delivery checks.
      First E-195 from VIE is coming in about three months which is really soon.

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    7. So it will be in 3 months but that is reason why they change it with A319 today?

      Ala ga opravi, svaka čast!

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    8. I forgot to add that it is coming to ex-YU in three months, the first E-195 was already delivered to OS so the transition has already begun.

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    9. 56 RJ are in Lufthansa fleet!!!! They fly several hundred flights per day. They usually fly Zagreb with A319.

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    10. What's with the exclamation marks? Calm down.

      I was referring to the fact that soon this number will be considerably reduced as some will go to Austrian Airlines while some others will be eventually removed as Germanwings will get CRJ-900s.
      All in all, the era when the jungle jet will make the backbone of LH's regional flying will soon come to an end.

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  12. Ovo nije normalno ni za pranje a kamoli da bude isplativo pogotovo sa ovim 733 VIP.
    Ja mislim da bi za kompaniju bio veci profit da su uzeli umesto 733 VIP 733F .
    INN-NS

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    1. Ne lupaj gluposti VIP koriste za klubove.

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    2. Da posto u nasem regioni svi klubovi igraju Ligu Sampiona i Ligu Evrope sigurno ce se rasturiti od posla sa klubovima.
      INN-NS

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    3. Opet tandrces gluposti imaju i vaterpolo i hokej i fudbal.

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  13. OT Aviolet 737 YU-ANI did not fly in seven days. Retired?

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    1. APC is back flying with satcom, APA is next.

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    2. No, YU-ANI is getting wifi installed. It should be back in a few weeks.

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    3. YU-ANI, you mean the 737?

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    4. Yeah, by next summer it should have the Air Serbia interior and the dedicated business class. So much about retiring the old ladies. lol

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    5. Are you serious...

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    6. Of course he is not... That WiFly would cost more than that 737...

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    7. Will they also paint B733 in ASL colors?

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    8. e to bi vec bila zvanicna objava propasti projekta.

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    9. Yes and YU-ANI will be nicknamed DK.

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  14. OT
    Zanimljivo je da ASL ima codeshare sa LO na liniji za ODS a sami nisu zaintresovani za letove steta.
    INN-NS

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    1. Vrlo pametna linija 800 km na sever pa jos toliko na jugoistok umesto 800 km na istok. Da nece mozda preko Beca?

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    2. @INN - Gde si to video?

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    3. Kako je objašnjeno u poljskoj kompaniji, njihova dosadašnja saradnja sa srpskim prevoznikom omogućila je veze za određene destinacije za koje ranije putnici iz Beograda nisu imali vezu u jednom danu. To su: Riga, Talin, Sankt Peterburg, Madrid, Odesa, Minsk.

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    4. Mislim da su sa Minskom i LED definitivno imali vezu tako da je to malo 'a load of BS' ili marketing drugim recima.

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    5. Huh? Most of those destinations were accessible through various interline agreements so it's indeed pure BS.

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    6. With Lufthana group it probably wouldn't be difficult to get to any of those places.

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  15. What's the fundamental difference between code share and inrerline agreement and why would two airlines prefer one o er the other ?

    Thanks in advance?

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    1. To put it simply, a code-share is more formal and it comes out first during the booking process. An interline is less formal and there are 'less strings attached.'

      Also, you can interline with pretty much anyone while code-shares tend to be government regulated.

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  16. Take a look at Sea Air's homepage and see the company's professionalism.
    I've never heard of a London Airport which is spelled "Stanstead"... and the more you look at the pages the more mistakes you will find...in grammar, in spelling, in logics (1hr flight time from OSI to STN...really? Guess someone missed the different time zones)
    Okay, Sea Air's new website (seaair.ch) which is only reserved for Pristina flights looks way better, to be fair.

    However, I don't know what the people behind this company are really looking for.
    Purger noted very clearly the issues of the flight plan and destinations.
    At the moment, they're still flying which is a bit surprising after all the issues with delays and arguement with OSI's officials.
    Does anybody have any info on the LFs? It would be interesting if, especially at OSI, people consider flying with them.

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  17. OT: Wizzair is going to launch flights to Bratislava (Vienna - 40 min away) from Skopje (2x a week) and Sofia (3x a week), flights are going to be scheduled in april/may 2016. Bucharest or Belgrade may be intoroduced later.
    Source : slovakaviation.sk

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    1. Bravo Wizz Air and shame on Air Serbia and on those who ridiculed people here who were proposing Bratislava as a destination. If it happens that'll seriously hurt ASL's line to Vienna.

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    2. Where is INN to comment on that?

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    3. Preko dva sata do Beca prevozom. Kolima barem sat i dvadeset minuta. To shabani mogu da lazu 40 min.

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    4. I dont know how much can a 2x weekly destination to Bratislava hurt a daily to Vienna. They are two different markets, Austrian is used mostly as transfer for other destinations.

      To be honest, I was expecting for FR to start these flights since it is FR's base and this is would be a completely new destination for W6.

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    5. Ima moje drage kompanije OS i ASL da se udruze tesko ce W6 dobiti tu trku .
      INN-NS

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    6. Kao sto je JU dobio bitku u LCA?

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    7. Shame on ASL because someone commented something on this blog??
      Wizz route from Bratislava to Sofia/Skopje will seriously hurt the BEG-VIE route of ASL???

      I like this blog, I really do. But it has no future unless all comments are disabled once and for all. This level of pure insanity is beyond repair.

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    8. You are stupid. They were speaking of a scenario where W6 was to launch BEG-BTS flights.

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    9. ...or Air Serbia for that matter.

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    10. JU will NEVER launch BTS.

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    11. AnonymousOctober 19, 2015 at 10:41 PM
      if your talking about the driving time between Bratislava and Vienna, as one of the shabans I can reassure you that you absolutely have no idea what you're writing about: up until last fall I had to do my swimming training in Bratislava since the olympic size pool in Vienna was being renovated- I had to drive to Bratislava every weekend and it NEVER took me more than 45 minutes to downtown Bratislava- the airport is xtra 10 min away so in total max of 1 hr drive.

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    12. Da nije tolika razdaljina ali ko ce ici od srba u VIE do BTS da bi putovao sa W6 kad ce OS/ASL da ih rasture kao sto su i HG pre nekoliko godina .
      INN-NS

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    13. Yeah that's correct, the journey takes about 40 min (car), 50 min on the bus (BTS-VIE) or 60 min (BTS-Vienna City Centre). There are some rumours about that Wizz will introduce more flights to BTS from its Balkan and Eastern European bases. Update: OTP and BEG are most likely to be announced together with SKJ and SOF (source: slovakiavation.com)

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    14. Mozete vi slobodno da se drogirate, ali Twin City Liner vozi 75 minuta centar do centra. Po izdrkanim autoputevima oko Beca tesko moze da se vozi 120 na sat po guzvi tesko vise od 100 km na sat. Te vase price ne piju vodu vi ste svi Ajerton Sene za volanom, ali kada je poljubio zid. To NEVER nisi dobro razumeo.

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    15. I could also see them launching INI-BTS.
      Is there a regular bus line between BTS and VIE? If yes then BEG-BTS could work, otherwise it will be much more difficult.

      In my opinion, it will be perfect if Wizz Air starts expanding in Bratislava. Not only will it melt the fares of legacy carriers flying into Vienna but it will also force VIE to consider its fees and charges as it will finally get some real competition.

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    16. Yes there is, 2 or 3 companies, 2-4 buses/an hour. Vienna Airport serves Bratislava as well, Bratislava is used as an low cost airport

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    17. At anon 11:04.

      I've argued that INI-BTS would take passengers from ASL.

      You can calm down now.

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  18. OT: Aviatica je objavila da Grčka kompanija Elliner otvara dve nove sezonske čarter linije iz Beograda do grčkih ostrva Krf i Krit za naredno leto, za koje će se karte naći i u slobodnoj prodaji.


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    1. Ellinair is backed by the powerful Mouzenidis Group. This winter season they have been expanding quite a bit and they seem to be doing quite well both in Athens and in Thessaloniki. It's fantastic to see more competition in Greece after many, many messy years.

      I hope that by next summer they might also introduce Rhodes-Belgrade.

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  19. I'm a Kosovar who live in Switzerland since 1995 and I want to tell you that I don't have enough faith in this new "airline company" (if we can call it a airline company). Take a look at their website, it's just a joke. There are many grammar and spelling mistakes like "Basel-Muehlhouse" or "London/Stanstead". Just to put my credit card's numbers to buy a ticket would scare me... They don't have even their own Air Operator's Certificate. I know that aviation is the safest way to travel (statistics tell it), but it's safe only if the company is serious and it doesn't seem to be the case here. Finally, they sent me a sms a few weeks ago. How did they get my mobile phone number???? In conclusion, I will continue to fly with Swiss, Edelweiss, Easyjet, Germania, Adria or Wizz and I would take a parachute with me if I had been forced to fly with Sea Air and their old 737 and Saab aircrafts. I don't know why, but it reminds me of Belle Air...

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  20. ma ovaj SeaAir nije ni vredan price...kao i sve ostalo,i let za London su odgodili (po 3.put) za 15.2.2016.
    ali kako se meni cini, prvi let ce im kreniti
    12.2. 6012

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