tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post1843638772070858469..comments2024-03-28T14:38:19.263+01:00Comments on EX-YU Aviation News: Bombardier pitches Q400 to Air SerbiaEX-YU Aviationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13952283005857074627noreply@blogger.comBlogger106125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-69945688949763770362016-12-17T07:14:38.272+01:002016-12-17T07:14:38.272+01:00Dear Anon 12:17 PM.
Sice I have retired six years ...Dear Anon 12:17 PM.<br />Sice I have retired six years ago, half year I live in Homeland Australia, and second part in Fatherland Serbia. Vinter in Serbia, vinter in Aussiland, down under.<br />Most of as have to be PR of good will of cleer mind. For every good corse. <br />Keep fly, keep hig, keep confident. And happy too.<br />Rod. Kralkevo + Sydney Rodney Marinkovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16111579094217706583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-84839269473112954252016-12-16T12:17:00.515+01:002016-12-16T12:17:00.515+01:00Dear Rodney, aren t u anymore living in Australia?...Dear Rodney, aren t u anymore living in Australia?<br />The article is indeed excellent PR for JU, hope it will materialize for them too<br />Happy holidays fm a grey ZRHJU520 BEGLAXnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-27567942056646038902016-12-16T09:26:58.126+01:002016-12-16T09:26:58.126+01:00Vidi se da nikada ne putuje..sedela u AS su više n...Vidi se da nikada ne putuje..sedela u AS su više nego udobna i mnogo bolja od svih evropskih kompanija.LaneHotLanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02884017289338723357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-46316451778299107922016-12-16T09:23:31.815+01:002016-12-16T09:23:31.815+01:00Vidi se da nikada ne putuje..sedela u AS su više n...Vidi se da nikada ne putuje..sedela u AS su više nego udobna i mnogo bolja od svih evropskih kompanija.LaneHotLanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02884017289338723357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-72056120049027889832016-12-16T08:14:49.672+01:002016-12-16T08:14:49.672+01:00Huh? Compare stability of a DQ8400 to a CRJ! I hav...Huh? Compare stability of a DQ8400 to a CRJ! I have flown several times last year between Washington and New Orleans and done CRJ ex-LH Cityline flights all in CRJs and found them very shakey - as soon as there is bit thermic activity it keeps shaking you left right left which was a nasty experience on almost all flights. I have never experienced this in a DQ8400 or ATR. But also not in any Embraer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-43551898378662183102016-12-16T08:08:28.638+01:002016-12-16T08:08:28.638+01:00Can't be served by ATR, but can be served with...Can't be served by ATR, but can be served with Q400.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-10764973495563243882016-12-16T07:31:31.649+01:002016-12-16T07:31:31.649+01:00I do agree with Anon 1:44 AM.
It is an fair comme...I do agree with Anon 1:44 AM.<br />It is an fair comment of Anon 6:24 PM.<br />Stability of turboprops not comparable <br />Jet aircrafts!.<br />Rodney & Travellers.<br />Kraljevo - Sydney-Serbia-Sydney <br /> Rodney Marinkovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16111579094217706583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-91485479196596590192016-12-16T07:19:04.007+01:002016-12-16T07:19:04.007+01:00Hi BEGLAX 9:28 PM.
Itis so nice to reed your text ...Hi BEGLAX 9:28 PM.<br />Itis so nice to reed your text about Air Serbia <br />in German magazine. Hopefully Serbian carrier will keep up momentum. And rising to higly recognized, up to medium-sized of 30+ aircrafts fleet. Time will proofing. <br />Greetings from Kraljevo.<br />Rodney Rodney Marinkovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16111579094217706583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-68670598468366050572016-12-16T07:03:46.009+01:002016-12-16T07:03:46.009+01:00I would also add that aviation in Europe has an ad...I would also add that aviation in Europe has an additional competitor: trains. <br />Ok, Serbian trains might be a joke but this is not the case elsewhere in Europe. Nemjeenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-27033609844079017802016-12-16T07:01:34.646+01:002016-12-16T07:01:34.646+01:00I am 1.85 and JU's seats are very uncomfortabl...I am 1.85 and JU's seats are very uncomfortable because they are the older generation ones, that is they are not slim-seats most airlines use these days. <br /><br />Same thing with Wizz Air. If you are flying on one of their older A320s then the experience is pretty horrible. However, if you end up on one of their newer ones then it's a completely different story.Nemjeenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-21311070453895253232016-12-16T01:44:53.155+01:002016-12-16T01:44:53.155+01:00Remarkably ignorant and offensive comment.Remarkably ignorant and offensive comment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-54610553489154034682016-12-16T00:55:27.665+01:002016-12-16T00:55:27.665+01:00I think Air Serbia should order passenger jets ins...I think Air Serbia should order passenger jets instead of replacing them with new atr 72s, I think getting more Airbus would be best solution, 6 A319s, to have all airbus fleet. However if they do decided to go for smaller passenger jet, Sukhoi Superjet 100, should be best solution imho and Air Serbia can get these for only $28 million at manufacturer's price or $22 million if they order 6. 98 seats one class, or 86 in two class configuration 32 and 36 inch pitch. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-25942947594227076812016-12-15T23:54:19.400+01:002016-12-15T23:54:19.400+01:00How do you know who you talkin to? Which Anonymous...How do you know who you talkin to? Which Anonymous are you talkin about?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-46075482707248525742016-12-15T23:51:54.940+01:002016-12-15T23:51:54.940+01:00Who are you referring to?Who are you referring to?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-14879810657666776622016-12-15T23:18:36.927+01:002016-12-15T23:18:36.927+01:00There you go again. I know what keeps you uncomfor...There you go again. I know what keeps you uncomfortable in your seat. The word "Serbia" in Air Serbia. No seat pitch can help there. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-6639879532201111582016-12-15T23:14:12.532+01:002016-12-15T23:14:12.532+01:00Q400 needs sparsely populated areas with relativel...Q400 needs sparsely populated areas with relatively longer distances and cheap fuel to show its true value. <br /><br />Perfect for Alaska and Canada, but not for a typical European flights. In EU it is usually just few minutes faster than ATR, while devouring way more expensive European fuel. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-53712311240774376602016-12-15T23:08:54.931+01:002016-12-15T23:08:54.931+01:00B) Lot of talking, very little specificity. Yes, m...B) Lot of talking, very little specificity. Yes, maybe in some laboratory circumstances that never comes in real life where you want to torture passengers on a 3,5 hours flight by a turboprop, there is hypothetical situation where Q400 comes as cheap as ATR. You can use, again hypothetically, Q400 more during one day because it does its tours marginally faster. But, not in real life. And even if you do, you pay way more, because Q400 wants to be something between tprop and jet. It loses on economy in comparison with ATR, and on speed and comfort in comparison with r-jets. Always the second best. <br /><br />The bottom line. ATR is way cheaper per passenger on shorter routes, typically used by tprops. <br /><br />ATRs are way more popular among customers and you can sell used ones more easily, for a relatively better price than a q400 of the same age. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-84181294779939061432016-12-15T21:54:38.807+01:002016-12-15T21:54:38.807+01:00Etihad 100 million
Relublic of Serbia with BEG 156...Etihad 100 million<br />Relublic of Serbia with BEG 156 million<br /><br />it should be 49:51, not 49:75Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-59140518585985690532016-12-15T21:28:06.567+01:002016-12-15T21:28:06.567+01:00Good night fm ZRH. Just rcvd the latest edition of...Good night fm ZRH. Just rcvd the latest edition of the German edition of the Business Traveller Magazine. It has a C Class Review of JU BEGTXL flight and is praising JU service with excellent notes<br />It says JU is setting standards what on short haul flights in Business Class possible is. The journalist says, he has not seen anything similar in the world on such a short flight. It is obvious that JU is hungry and it does everything to present itselves and the country on the international stage. The achievements are convincing and he hopes that the high level of service can be maintained for the future<br />The rewiew is on page 30,31 in the Dec-Jan editionJU520 BEGLAXnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-59913423914423509222016-12-15T19:29:35.285+01:002016-12-15T19:29:35.285+01:00Postovani Anon 5:25 PM
Vase misljenje je poucno. E...Postovani Anon 5:25 PM<br />Vase misljenje je poucno. Er Srbija kao deo vlasnistva Etihad Airways-a, je absolution realno. Standard usluga Etihada je neuporedivo sa bilo kojom avio kompanije u najvecem delu Evrope. I ako vrlo mlada avio kompanija ima vise najvisih priznanja iz vise vrsta usluga ove tako mlade, a tako renomirane kompanije. Logicno Etihada, koga Er Srbija treba da prati. Koga bi drugog u Etihad Group of Company?. A i van nje.<br />Nije mudro otkrivati iznova toplu vodu. Pogotovo <br />mladoj Srpskoj avio kompaniji koja ima nasledstvo jos od Aero Puta. Sto jeste impresivno duga istorija, ali ne previse mnogo od toga. To zivot i poslovanje svedoci.U istinskoj sam nadi i iscekivanju sa mnogim, da ce Er Srbija nastaviti zesci razvoj posle Belgrade Aviation Summit, mada ne previse spektakularnog,ali krucijalnog dogadjaja Srbije u ovoj oblasti do sada. Sto se tice regionalnog saobracaja, pristalica sam Kanadskog Bombardier - a, turbopropa. "C" klss prvenstveno.<br />Pred Bozicni Pozdrav iz Kraljeva.<br />Radovan +. Rodney Marinkovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16111579094217706583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-57748902839229532762016-12-15T19:27:05.604+01:002016-12-15T19:27:05.604+01:00Ref A) yes it is a comparison limited to all props...Ref A) yes it is a comparison limited to all props and turboprop, particularly towards ATR as per posts from Anons 9:13 and 10:06 who talk of ATRs.<br /><br />However if you are serious about comparing Dash and Jets on typical short haul routes - we can compare that too and the turboprop will almost always win very easily.<br /><br />Ref B) That is not what was meant. The Q400 becomes more economical compared to ATR from a certain average flight time. That is logical and easy to explain as in some flight stages ATR performs economically better and in some it is the Dash. On higher altitude and faster speeds the ATR is being outperformed by the Dash on routes with certain sector lengths (Q400 on bit longer routes, then later a jet engine aircraft will gain the upperhand) I might be wrong with the 55 Min indication, I do not remember exactly. Although a Q400 can fly 4 hours as said on here few weeks ago it does hardly operate any of such routes due to jet being better and yes more comfortable then. However, on the average sector length of turboprop the Dash is more economical compared to an ATR72 - that of course includes all facts and technical advantages and advancements where Dash wins by far: it has some 16% higher capacity, needs less flying time, climbs faster hence is less on more fuel consuming low altitudes and so on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-37227255300178280332016-12-15T18:24:52.436+01:002016-12-15T18:24:52.436+01:00Sorry, my personal opinion - I find the Q400 horri...Sorry, my personal opinion - I find the Q400 horrible, once flew with A3 with it. Noisy, and very unstable. E170 is a much better and more decent option. Canadian aircraft, just like C-series, tend to be lower class and made from cheaper material hence their lower price.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-74699819088942545202016-12-15T17:25:33.138+01:002016-12-15T17:25:33.138+01:00Iskreno ne znam koliko je realno da se ASL prebaci...Iskreno ne znam koliko je realno da se ASL prebaci na Q400 ili C seriju ili E170, E175 ili E190. Razlog zbog cega mislim da je to malo verovatno je taj sto je Etihad suvlasnik i pravac razvoja ASL i obnove flote ASL treba glrdati u tom pravcu. Iz tog razloga, ako budu nabavljali nove turbopropere verujem da ce izbor biti na ATR72 i eventualno SAAB 2000 (Etihad Regional kao primer). Dalje, ASL novih 10 A320neo dobija kroz Etihadovu porudzbinu iz 2013. godine kada su porucili 117 Airbus aviona i 82 Boeing aviona. Ti avioni koje ASL dobija bice Etihadovi i iz tog razloga verujem da pravac razvoja organizacije, flote i ljudstva i svega ostalog dolazi iz Etihada i da Etihad to odredjuje.<br /><br />Primer jedan, godinama putujem po celom svetu i usluga na ASL A330 na putu iz JFKa za BEG je ista (u organizacionom smislu kabinskog osoblja) kao i pre neku godinu kada sam sa A330 leteo Etihadom ka Australiji, konkretno Perthu. <br /><br />Zato gledam na ASL kao Etihad samo u kome rade Srbi po Etihadovim pravilima i po evropskom regionu.<br /><br />Naravno voleo bih da cujem Vasa misljenja i misljenje gospodina Alena na ovaj moj komentar.<br /><br />Sve najbolje dobri ljudi!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-16721451377647296442016-12-15T17:20:50.242+01:002016-12-15T17:20:50.242+01:00And you find the A319 comfortable? Other than in e...And you find the A319 comfortable? Other than in emergency exit rows the legroom is <br />Aouuch big time if your height is over 180 cm..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-58072208690114609472016-12-15T17:20:43.328+01:002016-12-15T17:20:43.328+01:00Some of them were refurbished by I think ANI and A...Some of them were refurbished by I think ANI and ANK still have the old Jat interiors with really old and worn out textile seats. AND and ANJ have the old LH interiors bought by Jat but they are also quite old and badly maintained.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com