tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post2131635714731308852..comments2024-03-28T10:32:14.188+01:00Comments on EX-YU Aviation News: Adria Airways posts record 2016 profitEX-YU Aviationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13952283005857074627noreply@blogger.comBlogger120125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-43379251699013984252017-09-08T04:15:43.781+02:002017-09-08T04:15:43.781+02:00Ajpes report: "Decembra 2016 je družba prodal...Ajpes report: "Decembra 2016 je družba prodala blagovno znamko Adria Airways za 8.000.000 EUR. Kupnino za blagovno znamko plača<br />novi lastnik blagovne znamke (i) z licenčnino, ki se bo odštela od nakupne cene, in (ii) po 9 letih, tj. leta 2025, preostanek<br />nabavne cene blagovne znamke v gotovini. Licenčnina za koledarsko leto znaša 400.000 EUR + 0,15 % letnih prihodkov." <br /><br />Anon @ 12:46 PM is correct Matijahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13460287283329722943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-47779693471900690012017-09-06T12:58:59.454+02:002017-09-06T12:58:59.454+02:00It's clearly obvious that the new owners are t...It's clearly obvious that the new owners are trying very hard to present the company as a profitable one in the shortest possible timeframe. Hence the brand name sell. Adria ended 2016 with a loss of 4.7 million euros. It's better than the year before, but it's still a loss. My guess is, they are trying hard to get rid of Adria as quickly as they can. That's why they "bought" Darwin (It was probably free anyway).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-67889981767010099232017-09-06T12:51:46.788+02:002017-09-06T12:51:46.788+02:00@Anonymous September 6, 2017 at 12:46 PM:
Correcti...@Anonymous September 6, 2017 at 12:46 PM:<br />Correction: the total income in 2016 was 147.230.453 EUR (excluding the brand name sell).<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-88104683028779874812017-09-06T12:46:55.718+02:002017-09-06T12:46:55.718+02:00@Anonymous September 5, 2017 at 3:39 PM:
Wrong! No...@Anonymous September 5, 2017 at 3:39 PM:<br />Wrong! Not anonymous BS! Check AJPES report. It clearly states on page 99 (see note at the bottom of the page), that brand name was sold for 8 million EUR (as said by Anonymous July 30, 2017 at 9:49 AM). That means, the profit in 2016 was 147.230.453 EUR, which translates into a loss of 4.767.029 EUR. Now you can make the thing public. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-36708655070429016542017-09-06T09:51:12.471+02:002017-09-06T09:51:12.471+02:00Croatia Airlines, kao i Adria Airvays, za svaku po...Croatia Airlines, kao i Adria Airvays, za svaku pohvalu doprinose dobrom poslovanju Zagrebackog i Ljubljanskog aerodroma. Jos ako uspesno mogu privlaciti i dovoljan broj putnika u zimskom periodu... To bi bilo zaista zaokruzena prica. Istina, takav scenario svaki iskren i dobrodusan covek zeli. Kraj zimske sezone ce potvrditi nastojanje vasih avio prevozioca.<br />Ipak Air Serbia se reformise u logicnom smeru. Da ima manji broj zaposljenih po broju zaposljenih na broj sedista svoje flote. Da nebih poreznici hranili visak personala. Dolazeca koncesija Nikole Tesle neminovno ce uticati na rast i koncept Srpske nacionalne avio kompanije. Sa nadom u dinamicniji razvoj Civilne avijacije Srbije, ukljucenje Kaljevackog aerodroma Morava i Uzicke Ponikve u mrezu aktivnih aerodroma. Svima topli pozdrav.<br />NAMA DOBRO I NIKOME ZLO!<br />Iz jesenjeg Kraljeva,<br />Rodney Marinkovic 😀🇷🇸😀🇭🇲🌐🇭🇲🇷🇸😀🗺 Rodney Marinkovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16111579094217706583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-31891179617273721892017-09-06T09:01:16.329+02:002017-09-06T09:01:16.329+02:00Yes! They should put back that "Lugano" ...Yes! They should put back that "Lugano" sticker. Would fit nicely. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-87470516549152733532017-09-06T04:47:37.567+02:002017-09-06T04:47:37.567+02:00What a mess! Adria, Etihad logo and two Swiss flag...What a mess! Adria, Etihad logo and two Swiss flags. Is there room to put anything else up there?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-6748360380012736502017-09-06T04:39:19.853+02:002017-09-06T04:39:19.853+02:00@Anonymous September 5, 2017 at 4:45 PM:
Exactly,...@Anonymous September 5, 2017 at 4:45 PM: <br />Exactly, even 4K admitted it. That's why they are focusing on the wet lease market.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-526772493775491342017-09-05T21:58:51.062+02:002017-09-05T21:58:51.062+02:00Ann 2:20 that is so not true. It was 3 million for...Ann 2:20 that is so not true. It was 3 million for old debts like Serbia gave 245 million. <br /><br />In 2016 Adria did not get any subvention for operations unlike Air Serbia with 42 million.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-71701713440879345082017-09-05T20:08:07.200+02:002017-09-05T20:08:07.200+02:00Their two major hubs within such short distance? T...Their two major hubs within such short distance? That's huge economical rubbish! (Or suicide)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-90129212781762397412017-09-05T19:58:58.516+02:002017-09-05T19:58:58.516+02:00Not necessarily. JU proves it is less costly to ha...Not necessarily. JU proves it is less costly to have an aircraft on the ground.<br /> Maybe JP is also eying to lease out machines on short notice during winter season. But I don't think that can be too lucrative either.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-88358793812722874822017-09-05T19:55:17.310+02:002017-09-05T19:55:17.310+02:00Oranges? :)Oranges? :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-16886655167281500152017-09-05T18:44:24.083+02:002017-09-05T18:44:24.083+02:00Good to know really. I think they managed to convi...Good to know really. I think they managed to convince the investors and came out with a successful business plan. Cash was injected and the results are now out. Well done JP.<br />JP can serve as a good example for the rest of loss-making airlines.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-50159634327235280402017-09-05T16:49:41.567+02:002017-09-05T16:49:41.567+02:00Speaking of Adria, this afternoon the first Adria ...Speaking of Adria, this afternoon the first Adria Switzerland coloured plane appeared but its in a hybrid livery since it still has the Etihad logo<br /><br />https://www.flickr.com/photos/134062278@N02/36191555114/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-59810616738021599212017-09-05T16:45:19.518+02:002017-09-05T16:45:19.518+02:00There is no market in Slovenia, nor Croatia or Ser...There is no market in Slovenia, nor Croatia or Serbia. If it would, Ryanair, Easy or LH would eat it a decade ago.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-88192929987090660072017-09-05T16:21:30.155+02:002017-09-05T16:21:30.155+02:00Well, they're not focusing on LJU. Who said th...Well, they're not focusing on LJU. Who said that? Just because they've added some frequencies and announced Kiev, it doesn't mean they're focusing on LJU. Remember Berlin, Stockholm, Cologne (I probably forgot some)? All gone since 4K took over. And not a single destination added.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-84318095296593406122017-09-05T16:16:30.924+02:002017-09-05T16:16:30.924+02:00Finally, an objective point of perspective. It'...Finally, an objective point of perspective. It's almost funny how naive some people are. They're praising 4K as saviours of AA. Interesting thing is, less pax and worse load factor. Unfortunately Arno couldn't skew those numbers as he's done to the profit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-47630064038353815862017-09-05T15:53:46.403+02:002017-09-05T15:53:46.403+02:00Mrtva trka u regionu :-). Ne zna se ko je bolji.
...Mrtva trka u regionu :-). Ne zna se ko je bolji. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-9055235079228137722017-09-05T15:39:38.944+02:002017-09-05T15:39:38.944+02:00Still no proof, just anonymous BS. Again, show me ...Still no proof, just anonymous BS. Again, show me the proof and i'll make the thing public.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-92069995079098186882017-09-05T14:20:59.531+02:002017-09-05T14:20:59.531+02:00In 2016 Adria got 3 million euros from the Sloveni...In 2016 Adria got 3 million euros from the Slovenian government. That was the condition under which 4K bought Adria. Adria also benefitted from three public capital injections in 2007, 2009 and 2010, amounting to around 15.2 million euros. In 2011 it received 50 million euros in state aid. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-63395462869069164142017-09-05T14:20:32.434+02:002017-09-05T14:20:32.434+02:00OK, thanks; now at least I understand how they man...OK, thanks; now at least I understand how they manage to came to that number (135%). But that kind of calculation is like adding grandmas to frogs.Nenadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08036982221997721599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-5599368563219065572017-09-05T14:14:11.156+02:002017-09-05T14:14:11.156+02:00And Air Serbia pay much less in BEG than other com...And Air Serbia pay much less in BEG than other companies but still gets 42 million subvention. <br /><br />So what is your point? Montenegro gets huge discounts, Adria gets huge discounts, Air Sebia gets huge discounst but on top of it 42 million subventions. What other companies did not get at all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-18375476029516681212017-09-05T14:07:07.620+02:002017-09-05T14:07:07.620+02:00Eh... Adria didn't issue press release yet so ...Eh... Adria didn't issue press release yet so they don't know it's even been published.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-6822654398725038812017-09-05T13:56:04.038+02:002017-09-05T13:56:04.038+02:00Trust me, they did not get any important amount of...Trust me, they did not get any important amount of money for CRJ-200. Luckily they could sell it for any money at all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-69584351057586628492017-09-05T13:53:10.994+02:002017-09-05T13:53:10.994+02:00Darwin never made a penny. Every few years, before...Darwin never made a penny. Every few years, before its bancrupcy it was taking over by another. <br />4K got Adria for peanuts and Darwin for free. <br />It will take time to talk about the sucess here. On both sides. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com