tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post213187227292880599..comments2024-03-29T09:11:13.189+01:00Comments on EX-YU Aviation News: Air Serbia cuts Premium Lounge work hoursEX-YU Aviationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13952283005857074627noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-10163037991367011142017-09-08T14:11:38.152+02:002017-09-08T14:11:38.152+02:00Make sense as the lowest tiers on other FFPs tradi...Make sense as the lowest tiers on other FFPs traditionally don't get lounge access. Spent a good 5hrs there on a trip earlier this year and the lounge & JU hosts were lovely. A one time pass for Silver would be ~22.5 euros for 3hrs I think, which isn't bad at all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-32299438926715895002017-09-06T18:05:38.332+02:002017-09-06T18:05:38.332+02:00Flying nonstop from Belgrade to New York while bei...Flying nonstop from Belgrade to New York while being pampered in business class is premium. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-4048813687232758532017-09-06T16:48:22.979+02:002017-09-06T16:48:22.979+02:00This is one of the changes in EY Guest program. Ot...This is one of the changes in EY Guest program. Other notable changes are that Gold and Platinum tiers are now valid for 1 year / 365 days (previously remainder of that year plus 2 calendar years on attainment, 1 calendar year on renewal), same thing with Silver (which was previously valid for the remainder of that year plus 1 calendar year on attainment); Golds get access to EY Business lounge in AUH; EY Silvers lose access to Al Reem AUH and BEG lounges, but only when flying on JU marketed and operated flights - so a Silver member flying EY from BEG can still use JU Premium lounge.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-74498711598747521182017-09-06T14:47:35.836+02:002017-09-06T14:47:35.836+02:002012 jat lacked everything from decent service to ...2012 jat lacked everything from decent service to online check-in to New York flights. You call it lipstick, I call it awesome. <br /><br />Not every change was perfect, and I agree on a business class product. Current config should have been selected from the start. I have criticized A330 business class config as well.<br /><br />As for the P/L, both shareholders want improvements (as with any other business) but seem to be mostly okay. As new PM said Air Serbia is very important for Serbia, so the investment is probably making positive overall return for the country. Some people are just not easy to give praise, so let's agree to disagree. Developments in the coming years will show who was on the right track.AirCEOnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-18421970922242837782017-09-06T14:38:57.145+02:002017-09-06T14:38:57.145+02:00From 1 October 2017 on Air Serbia
Silver Members...From 1 October 2017 on Air Serbia <br /><br />Silver Members Lounge Access <br />Etihad Guest Silver Members will no longer have complimentary access to the Air Serbia Premium Lounge in Belgrade and the Al Reem Lounge in Abu Dhabi when flying on Air Serbia. <br /><br />However, you will be able to access the Premium Lounge in Belgrade at a special discounted rate of 50% off the selected walk in rate as well as continue to enjoy the following benefits on eligible flights: priority check-in, Tier Bonus of 25% more miles and additional baggage of up to 23kg in Economy or 32kg in BusinessAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-27819035560666624782017-09-06T13:55:07.222+02:002017-09-06T13:55:07.222+02:00The changes are starting October 1st, so of course...The changes are starting October 1st, so of course you don't see the logo yet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-37833240842873155782017-09-06T11:45:16.287+02:002017-09-06T11:45:16.287+02:00as i said, if the business doesn't provide pro...as i said, if the business doesn't provide profit, all changes in JU are lipstick on a pig. and with all of these changes/reduction lipstick starts to ware off<br /><br />what good is a premium product in the price sensitive market? what good is the good business class product when the business class is empty, what good are routes when planes are empty and finally what good are the changes when the company is loosing more money than before?<br />no praise to be given, really.Petar Čelikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14203908949248325000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-17075247516871822122017-09-06T11:44:41.033+02:002017-09-06T11:44:41.033+02:00Agree Anon 10.25. What is premium about JU theses ...Agree Anon 10.25. What is premium about JU theses days. That's right. NothingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-48326911995417705882017-09-06T11:37:52.161+02:002017-09-06T11:37:52.161+02:00@AirCEO at 10:56
You are talking about past: &quo...@AirCEO at 10:56<br /><br />You are talking about past: "have been impressive". Yes, in 2013-14. Since summer 2015 Kondic started changing path. Ever since, he acted as a spoiled child destroying his favorite toy. Results are visible today - ASL is heavily damaged company, struggling to survive on a state life-support. <br /><br />So, when you compare ASL today and JAT before 2013, no significant difference in almost every sense, except that ASL has 1.2 million pax more, which is respectful, but not enough.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-87985318679671595392017-09-06T10:56:50.078+02:002017-09-06T10:56:50.078+02:00We are not talking about AB and AZ. JU received su...We are not talking about AB and AZ. JU received support from governments before 2013 without any effective turnaround. Changes since 2013 have been impressive, they are not just patches as before.AirCEOnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-86812804575111637172017-09-06T10:37:28.466+02:002017-09-06T10:37:28.466+02:00Sorry OP, but could you elaborate on how did "...Sorry OP, but could you elaborate on how did "Kondic heavily restricted the rules for its use"? The lounge is open to status and business pax of JU, EY and EYP (notably AZ), as any other lounge out there is, plus it is one of only three lounges in the world also accessible to EY Guest Silver pax (other two being a contract lounge in AUH, and the one in Seychelles).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-13271103852845929712017-09-06T10:30:10.295+02:002017-09-06T10:30:10.295+02:00Where exatly did you see that they are closing the...Where exatly did you see that they are closing the lounge?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-54656920341835903722017-09-06T10:28:45.909+02:002017-09-06T10:28:45.909+02:00I can't wait to hear or read Kondic message ab...I can't wait to hear or read Kondic message about closing the lounge, I am sure it will be painted with some passenger value added BS!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-3952713245185049262017-09-06T10:25:35.079+02:002017-09-06T10:25:35.079+02:00You must be joking if you see airserbia as a premi...You must be joking if you see airserbia as a premium airline!?! How do they deserve that status?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-29546633013527854942017-09-06T10:20:44.014+02:002017-09-06T10:20:44.014+02:00Because they will obviously fire one shift of work...Because they will obviously fire one shift of workers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-79235436220762193382017-09-06T10:19:22.955+02:002017-09-06T10:19:22.955+02:00I think it is fine and reasonable they cut some ni...I think it is fine and reasonable they cut some night hours with probably next to zero business between 1am and 5 am! <br /><br />BUT why cancel the whole night immediately? <br /><br />Without a doubt opening hours should be 5:00-0:15!<br /><br />That would make most sense, they'd cut half a shift but leave it open for the midnight wave.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-51953202178490590392017-09-06T10:11:19.903+02:002017-09-06T10:11:19.903+02:00Lounge opening was an important move in the develo...Lounge opening was an important move in the development of ASL. However, immediately after opening, Kondic heavily restricted the rules for its use. Add to that the poor functioning Etihad's loyalty program in ASL, the result was a mostly empty lounge, with a very good product. What is the purpose of a good product if only very few can use it?<br /><br />The lounge could become an important tool for creating a picture of ASL as a premium airline. Instead, management's approach is now destroying the lounge, like everything else in the company. No doubt that incompetence prevailed in JU.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-49304693218230734062017-09-06T10:10:15.158+02:002017-09-06T10:10:15.158+02:00i am not repeating, i am fully capable of reading ...i am not repeating, i am fully capable of reading financial reports and interpreting them, so i was calling bull on that business long time ago. and etihad is not doing it for free, it is doing it with loss at their own account :)<br /><br />second of all, there is no praise to be given if you take dysfunctional company, put a lipstick on a pig, walk it around for a couple of years until it proves to be to costly to maintain and then bankrupt it.<br />do you think italy and germany are grateful to EY for great service they did with those two? the entire aviation world is acknowledged that etihad strategy was a bust and that non of it's "turnarounds" has worked at all.<br />give praise for what? miserable failure of a business strategy?<br /><br />fortunately JU is smaller than AZ or AB so you can somehow patch it losses and not close the shop.Petar Čelikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14203908949248325000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-103137583515284512017-09-06T09:52:31.402+02:002017-09-06T09:52:31.402+02:00Negative result? Are you sure you know what are yo...Negative result? Are you sure you know what are you talking about or you are just repeating what others are saying? Etihad was the only one to take the risk and they were never expected to do it for free. There would be no functional JU if it wasn't for EY help. Ask previous governments, no other airline was willing to help, Lufthansa, Aeroflot, no one. Etihad deserves a credit for taking that risk. Contract ends next year, let's see if JU will be driven into the ground as you say, shall we?AirCEOnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-4955568548721581692017-09-06T09:21:22.487+02:002017-09-06T09:21:22.487+02:00@airceo
turnaround with negative 39mil€ result? th...@airceo<br />turnaround with negative 39mil€ result? that's not turnaround, that's driving company into the ground.<br />should we also call what happened at AZ & AB a turnaround?Petar Čelikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14203908949248325000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-36597832063736615712017-09-06T07:46:11.312+02:002017-09-06T07:46:11.312+02:00All things is going to shit!All things is going to shit!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-84928391283123992912017-09-06T00:19:06.200+02:002017-09-06T00:19:06.200+02:00@Anon (of course, no cojones!) at 10:02
Name one ...@Anon (of course, no cojones!) at 10:02<br /><br />Name one airline that proved more competent at turning around jat. Anyone could have driven it to bankrupcy, so that can't be filed under competent. Name just one, so you don't end up being incompetent.AirCEOnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-43385905336986889372017-09-05T22:51:26.451+02:002017-09-05T22:51:26.451+02:00you sure about Belgrade airport lounge can be used...you sure about Belgrade airport lounge can be used for JU Etihad Guest high lever user? because i dont see they logo in front of loungeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-84280393444508158712017-09-05T22:02:57.085+02:002017-09-05T22:02:57.085+02:00Lol... what exactly makes them.competent? The fact...Lol... what exactly makes them.competent? The fact they got the Serbian government to invest into its own airline?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-61218259727293420362017-09-05T20:05:44.101+02:002017-09-05T20:05:44.101+02:00Just dont call Etihad incompetent please. Without ...Just dont call Etihad incompetent please. Without them, there would be no AS. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com