tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post2225298505829970089..comments2024-03-29T15:26:44.741+01:00Comments on EX-YU Aviation News: Wizz Air leads Ljubljana Airport recoveryEX-YU Aviationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13952283005857074627noreply@blogger.comBlogger63125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-1058239191643107572013-12-16T17:19:42.056+01:002013-12-16T17:19:42.056+01:00Oh, i didn't knew that "being childish&qu...Oh, i didn't knew that "being childish" was against to the comment's guidelines, my bad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-79112714159407355112013-12-16T16:02:17.662+01:002013-12-16T16:02:17.662+01:00@Aleksandar StojanovicDecember 16, 2013 at 3:35 AM...@Aleksandar StojanovicDecember 16, 2013 at 3:35 AM<br /><br />Clearly you never bothered to research or read the documents and links i posted why bother responding to you. <br /><br />in your hatred of all things Croatian you simply ignore any facts and figures. <br /><br />Why would I even waste my breath explaining you things when you can't bother to read plans and interviews with the main guy in charge of the whole thing. <br /><br />I'll tell you this, Zagreb's prospects are great, now that Croatia is in the EU even greater, the economy is recovering and Zagreb is becoming major tourist destination in its own right. <br /><br />I think in my extensive reply to you in my previous post I have made more than sufficient reasoning why Zagreb will do ok, its your jealousy and utter hatred of all things Croatian make you see only bad things in Croatia. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-21453958748484898462013-12-16T11:43:10.688+01:002013-12-16T11:43:10.688+01:00Yeah, the French are magicians when it comes to ru...Yeah, the French are magicians when it comes to running airports. Look how well their November numbers have been. If only they could mirror the same exceptional growth in Zagreb. ;)<br /><br />http://www.air-journal.fr/2013-12-16-trafic-aeroports-de-paris-1-novembre-592916.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebookAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-72550792322153638622013-12-16T10:37:28.463+01:002013-12-16T10:37:28.463+01:00šahovnica leti u Tel Aviv vec 15 godina i to tri p...šahovnica leti u Tel Aviv vec 15 godina i to tri puta tjedno. A leti i El Al za ZAG sa 767.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-40678368331787523482013-12-16T10:36:08.002+01:002013-12-16T10:36:08.002+01:00European Commission on Adria AIrways anyone?
Why n...European Commission on Adria AIrways anyone?<br />Why no decision-news?<br />Are Slovenians paying the EC with coca?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-19519306526754309442013-12-16T03:35:03.745+01:002013-12-16T03:35:03.745+01:00I know of one new airline for ZAG in 2014, and tha...I know of one new airline for ZAG in 2014, and that is Etihad Regional. <br /><br />You think ZAG is so very important? Nothing in the Balkans is even remotely important. Not Zagreb, not Belgrade, not even Bucharest or Sofia. Croatia is EU now, so what? The coastal airports have the opportunity to grow, but ZAG doesn't have the market to break deep into 3 mil without transit passengers. <br /><br />So what if some "experts" think that there will be market. What else is the director of ZAG supposed to say? We see the same thing across Ex-Yu. Serbian politicians do it all the time. They make false promises. We don't even know if BEG or ZAG will get a new terminal. We need to wait until construction starts. Often politicians make promises to build something, but construction never starts. aleksandarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12904977131473241975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-36797292221025193722013-12-16T02:56:25.116+01:002013-12-16T02:56:25.116+01:00@Aleksandar StojanovicDecember 16, 2013 at 2:05 AM...@Aleksandar StojanovicDecember 16, 2013 at 2:05 AM<br /><br /><br />Yes many new airlines will come back to Zagreb, and this is not cause Zagreb is undeserved, its cause Zagreb is a big market, its an important city and now with in the EU even more so. <br /><br />Zagreb is becoming major tourist destination, a city brake destination with projected 2 million visits and 3.5 million nights by 2020 (easily) and this will reflect greatly in airport figures, especially if easyjet is allowed to base one of their jets at Zagreb airport. U're looking at city that has best prospects of all ex-Yu capitols cities and with greatest potential on offer, currently greatly underutilized. <br /><br />Let me post you an interview with the new director of Zagreb airport, read and see what you think. <br /><br /><br />http://www.jutarnji.hr/gonzalve-de-cordoue--necu-davati-otkaze--cilj-je-dovesti-nove-kompanije-i-linije--zelimo-transkontinentalne-letove--a-koncentrirat-cemo-se-na-australiju-i-sad-zbog-mnogo-hrvata-u-tim-zemljama-/1147024/<br /><br /><br />This is directly out of horses mouths, so you have any questions you should direct at him, and he has great plans for the city, something he and his company are betting on $440 million. Not a little money.<br /> <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-22577428164162347232013-12-16T02:05:00.806+01:002013-12-16T02:05:00.806+01:00^Zagreb is getting a new terminal, and you think t...^Zagreb is getting a new terminal, and you think that it will translate into more passengers? Foreign airlines aren't going to come to Zagreb just because of a new terminal. They are not in the business of doing you any favors. They are in the business of making money. Lets see some commitment from airlines before your come up with these numbers for Zagreb. Sure, Zagreb is underserved, but let's wait and see what airlines will do about it. <br /><br />BEG already has many new carriers coming next year, and Air Serbia will fly more, and hopefully that will mean more passengers. <br /><br />Your numbers for Zagreb are too high, and the numbers for Belgrade are too low. <br /><br />Nice terminals don't attract passengers or even airlines. Good networks attract passengers and demand attracts airlines. aleksandarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12904977131473241975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-69014163656464575852013-12-16T01:49:49.248+01:002013-12-16T01:49:49.248+01:00@AnonymousDecember 15, 2013 at 10:32 PM
My Zagreb...@AnonymousDecember 15, 2013 at 10:32 PM<br /><br />My Zagreb prediction is based on French investors own prediction and plans. <br /><br />I like to think they know what they're talking about since they are after all 2nd largest airport management group on the planet with 2 of Paris airports under their wing, as well as Istanbul airport, Amsterdam airport to name few. <br /><br />Serious plans are afoot and I am confident in my data. I am not sure Belgrade airport would go so fast as some of you think, <br /><br />Yes many new airlines are coming to Belgrade and this is where growth is going to happen (not with air Serbia as much). <br /><br />I think Ethiad might play major role at Belgrade airport but I see no major dramatic changes in terms of numbers, a steady growth of between 300-400 000 per year. <br /><br /><br />Zagreb airport you all forget had steady growth of 8-9% per year before economic crisis, only in 2013 numbers went stagnant for obvious reasons, Croatian airlines cutting down on many flights (15% reduction in operations out of Zagreb Airport) and than you had 8 days of strike in May and than 2-3 days of strike in November. Don't forget first 3 months Zagreb recorded growth, only with summer schedule and reduction in operations by Croatian airlines did numbers go down, but even than Zagreb airport was on its way to good year until 8 day strike which literally shut down the airport for 8 days, basically Zagreb airport lost 10-11 days due to strikes, and than another 2800 flights out of Zagreb airport due to Croatian Airlines cutting number of operations, this is a lot of passengers (roughly 250 000 passengers) no wonder Zagreb didn't grow, it is actually going to have a slight loss of 50 000 passengers by my projection this year. <br /><br />2014 will be very good year for Zagreb airport, first construction of new terminal will start in earnest, hopefully this blog maintains updates with photos coming on a regular basis. <br /><br />2nd, old terminal will be done up first only new 5700sqm section will be added in 2014, as early as April works should start on that, its a $12 million update, no major reconstruction planned, this should lift capacity of the terminal to 3.5 million pax and than planned arrival of loads of new airlines that fill in the holes in Croatian Airlines lackluster attitude towards its main hub. <br /><br />KLM, Iberia, Alitalia, CSA, LOT, SAS, Finnair, Brussels Air, Air Swiss, and few others all will be invited back to Zagreb and some that already fly will be asked to increase their frequencies, Iberia, TAP, Valuing, Norwegian Air Shuttle.<br /><br /><br />8-10% growth in 2014 is expected (based on new carriers alone, not Croatian airlines performance) and the full effect of this strategy should be visible in 2015 when growth of 20-25% is expected. New management is aiming for 5 million pax by 2020 and 8 million by 2025, I posted their plans (with links) on this blog several times, you can also google for them, I have pdf document of their strategy on my computer and I can tell you its researched and well planned. <br /><br />After all would you invest $440 million in to an airport if you hadn't had any faith in your vision or plans ? I can assure you, French aren't stupid, and Company behind ain't stupid, after all they're 2nd largest airport group in the world. I'm pretty sure they know what they're doing. <br /><br />Also, some of tyou said Ljubljana Airport won't recover, I was only one saying all along it will, and they have a great future ahead of them, although Ljubljana airport is too close to Vienna and Venice to benefit from links to these two important cities for Slovenian Economy and commerce (30% of Slovenian GDP is linked to these two markets - northern Italy and Austria) so Ljubljana Airport can't benefit from these links much, but i see great future for Ljubljana airport, my prediction 2.7 million by 2020. <br /><br /><br /><br /> <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /> <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-11443416759804777322013-12-16T01:25:59.240+01:002013-12-16T01:25:59.240+01:00Па мораће некако док не слети Шаховница у Тел Авив...Па мораће некако док не слети Шаховница у Тел Авив. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-23540761285263678822013-12-16T01:06:13.081+01:002013-12-16T01:06:13.081+01:00Ma koji ce zidov letjeti arapskom kompanijom Air S...Ma koji ce zidov letjeti arapskom kompanijom Air Serbia?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-16754346970434380262013-12-16T00:23:49.333+01:002013-12-16T00:23:49.333+01:00^Yes, you are right, those predictions won't b...^Yes, you are right, those predictions won't be accurate. BEG will get around 3.9 mil in 2014. <br /><br />The 2013 numbers will be around 3.55, and I think BEG will have around 12% growth next year. There will be a few new airlines, and Air Serbia is having a big expansion. aleksandarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12904977131473241975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-29290751419067108442013-12-15T23:57:12.177+01:002013-12-15T23:57:12.177+01:00JU8160/1 OTP-SOF-OTP
JU8162/3 OTP-KIV-OTP,
operate...JU8160/1 OTP-SOF-OTP<br />JU8162/3 OTP-KIV-OTP,<br />operated by TAROM.JU500https://www.blogger.com/profile/01855136215721390300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-81605011896249664382013-12-15T23:54:29.564+01:002013-12-15T23:54:29.564+01:00God. Пратећи твоју логику зашто Туркиш лети 8 пута...God. Пратећи твоју логику зашто Туркиш лети 8 пута на дан тамо када постоје директни летови ка већини градова ка којима продају карте. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-43686598800755066492013-12-15T23:50:47.105+01:002013-12-15T23:50:47.105+01:00Because they were getting out of hand, insulting a...Because they were getting out of hand, insulting and childish and were not in accordance with the comment guidelines.EX-YU Aviationhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13952283005857074627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-42559208889149242782013-12-15T23:48:55.992+01:002013-12-15T23:48:55.992+01:00Ok, my comment also got deleted though i didn'...Ok, my comment also got deleted though i didn't insult anybody. Can we have a civilized discussion about why those comments had to be deleted at all?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-4393956036841926862013-12-15T23:31:39.653+01:002013-12-15T23:31:39.653+01:00Za Tel Aviv će se leteti utorkom, četvrtkom, petko...Za Tel Aviv će se leteti utorkom, četvrtkom, petkom i<br />nedeljom i ta linija biće veza za važne destinacije,<br />kao što su Pariz, Amsterdam, Brisel, Moskva,<br />Kopenhagen, Cirih, Beč, Berlin... Haha, like Tel Aviv does not have its own connections to those cities. God!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-24458383203640162552013-12-15T23:00:38.021+01:002013-12-15T23:00:38.021+01:00Saint Petersburg is the only important new route
f...Saint Petersburg is the only important new route<br />for JU.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-27760835497580034412013-12-15T22:51:02.689+01:002013-12-15T22:51:02.689+01:00Zagreb also becomes double daily from march.Zagreb also becomes double daily from march.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-52126849047909185692013-12-15T22:36:42.854+01:002013-12-15T22:36:42.854+01:00Sochi route is possible but I believe that we will...Sochi route is possible but I believe that we will see Saint Petersburg too. And I would like to see Madrid and Hamburg.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-88667930242651543372013-12-15T22:36:27.171+01:002013-12-15T22:36:27.171+01:00For example this topic has something about 40 comm...For example this topic has something about 40 comments, which is not too much, it is below average. If there werent off topics, we would lack some useful information.<br /><br />Still, I agree with you and think that people should somehow distinct irrelevant off topics from relevant ones. For example, fog at OTP is not so relevant, but on the other hand codesharing Chisnau flights is somewhat important. If there were more Slovene people here, and more things going on about Slovenia, you would see. So the best thing would be to simply save unimportant off topics for some Serbia-related articles. It would be the best solution, although is hard to distinct one from another.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-31799351465800486362013-12-15T22:32:16.444+01:002013-12-15T22:32:16.444+01:00I do not believe that Zagreb will reach 3.85 milli...I do not believe that Zagreb will reach 3.85 million passengers in 2017. More realistic is the 3.2 million passengers, because they won't have a strong airline that will bring so much passengers to Zagreb Airport. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-70676660801654081372013-12-15T22:20:19.240+01:002013-12-15T22:20:19.240+01:00Hmm how come LJU-IST has so much demand but ZAG do...Hmm how come LJU-IST has so much demand but ZAG doesn't? I am not asking to make fun of ZAG, I am genuinely curious. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-78571541951358869402013-12-15T22:18:27.145+01:002013-12-15T22:18:27.145+01:00Waaaait... where did you see that JU will be going...Waaaait... where did you see that JU will be going double daily to LJU?!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-83800903706750047772013-12-15T22:13:40.894+01:002013-12-15T22:13:40.894+01:00I am sorry but I can't agree with you on this ...I am sorry but I can't agree with you on this one. I would rather have people post off topics throughout the day rather than to have a few topics on days when it's not a hot story. <br />Like today, if there weren't for the ots then we would have maybe 4 or 5 comments which sucks. <br /><br />I mostly come back to Ex-YU to read the comments and discussions. <br /><br />No one is stopping you from posting off topics on your own country. Heck, people even encourage it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com