tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post234291337187058648..comments2024-03-29T16:08:37.419+01:00Comments on EX-YU Aviation News: July deadline for Etihad decision on Air SerbiaEX-YU Aviationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13952283005857074627noreply@blogger.comBlogger106125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-85275812932981911302018-05-04T13:00:55.602+02:002018-05-04T13:00:55.602+02:00Air Seychelles have completely different customers...Air Seychelles have completely different customers. And are not facing LCC competition in own backyard. Who ever goes to Seychelles is not looking for 9,99eur tickets.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-75733403961938275542018-05-04T09:25:05.900+02:002018-05-04T09:25:05.900+02:00Everything can be sorted out.Everything can be sorted out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-8332851068240755292018-05-04T09:23:44.229+02:002018-05-04T09:23:44.229+02:00Why is that a problem? That is exactly what JU sho...Why is that a problem? That is exactly what JU should become. Feeder of largest traditional company in the continent which operates from the markets were we have largest diaspora. Plus to serve some additional routes if they are profitable and operate charters. That is actually the smartest strategy company could have.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-69240177265604205202018-05-04T09:18:09.528+02:002018-05-04T09:18:09.528+02:00You missed the comment regarding bad decision to g...You missed the comment regarding bad decision to get 10 A320. :)))Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-84646925798151941022018-05-04T02:23:41.142+02:002018-05-04T02:23:41.142+02:00SkyTeam makes the most sense as JU codeshares with...SkyTeam makes the most sense as JU codeshares with mainly SkyTeam airlines: SU, AF, KLM, RO, AZ, UX.<br /><br />JU joining SkyTeam, they would get additional partners in DL (JFK), ME (BEY), OK (PRG).<br /><br />Take it a step further, with JU ditching Etihad Guest FF program for KLM’s Flying Blue program could be very benefitial for attracting more premium pax for JU.<br /><br />SkyTeam could help start new markets through new partners: SV (JED, RUH). JED bound IL76’s at BEG suggest a cargo demand, Saudi tourism has grown in the region (48.127 Saudis visited BH last year, increasing by 188%), potential pilgrim tourism through local and transfer traffic, as well as a new market of Saudi bound tourists once they start issuing tourist visas. SV has a limited presence in Europe.<br /><br />On the other hand, JU hasnt had good relations with Star Alliance carriers. LH cancelled the codeshare with Jat, OU doesnt code share with JU along with the problems JU had in Croatia when they launched ZAG, LO and CA agreements not that impressive, leaving A3 and JP the best as it comes from Star Alliance for JU.<br /><br />No OneWorld carrier cooperates with JU since AB went bankrupt, while JU operates to only 2 OW hubs for which demand is restricted to both due to visa requirements: LHR and JFK. QR is the only OW carrier operating to BEG, to which JU doesnt have any cooperations with.JATBEGMELnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-40549174869204054272018-05-03T23:18:44.170+02:002018-05-03T23:18:44.170+02:00Anonymous May 3, 2018 at 9:42 PM
Anonymous May 3, ...Anonymous May 3, 2018 at 9:42 PM<br />Anonymous May 3, 2018 at 9:46 PM<br />Anonymous May 3, 2018 at 9:48 PM<br />Anonymous May 3, 2018 at 9:51 PM<br /><br />LOL he strikes again in 4 spots within 10 minutes! All against Air Serbia from his perspective, from Etihad departure to hope Air Serbia will not start Toronto, to suggestion Air Serbia should join Star Alliance. All against Air Serbia interests.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-50905902283511006122018-05-03T22:13:45.235+02:002018-05-03T22:13:45.235+02:00*A literally makes the least sense of all options....*A literally makes the least sense of all options.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-42320636800342316592018-05-03T21:51:17.911+02:002018-05-03T21:51:17.911+02:00Nothing except Star Alliance would make sense. The...Nothing except Star Alliance would make sense. They are too strong and JU should try to secure its piece in STar Alliance cakeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-76525827129849695562018-05-03T21:48:36.227+02:002018-05-03T21:48:36.227+02:00Hopefully they do not proceed with YYZ adventure. ...Hopefully they do not proceed with YYZ adventure. They need to concentrate on sorting other issuesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-90294063190170583472018-05-03T21:46:07.822+02:002018-05-03T21:46:07.822+02:00They are still owners of 49 percent of the company...They are still owners of 49 percent of the company even if they withrow from management agreement. But I suppose they will sell it to the government. We will see for how much. Probably much more than $40 mil.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-23828324014822084902018-05-03T21:42:47.149+02:002018-05-03T21:42:47.149+02:00Everything we see seems as departure being prepare...Everything we see seems as departure being prepared. It is a lucrative deal for them but overall money they make here is not huge. Smart move to concentrate on core issuesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-21451457301597841832018-05-03T21:39:38.526+02:002018-05-03T21:39:38.526+02:00Hopefully they quit idea of having 10 A320. Comple...Hopefully they quit idea of having 10 A320. Completely unfit for AS needs.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-5527422957662364212018-05-03T20:04:52.678+02:002018-05-03T20:04:52.678+02:00nek' si ti nama sve rekO.nek' si ti nama sve rekO.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-65879763094788072142018-05-03T19:45:34.781+02:002018-05-03T19:45:34.781+02:00I wrote above text. NebojsaI wrote above text. NebojsaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-46281669592686429452018-05-03T19:25:34.595+02:002018-05-03T19:25:34.595+02:00I flew on YU-AND last week and I loved it. It was ...I flew on YU-AND last week and I loved it. It was one of the most wonderful flights I ever had. However, as you said it yourself, the older a plane gets the more difficult it is to service it. Naturally, LH has no problem paying for their older aircraft but JU isn't exactly swimming in cash. <br /><br />You are right once again. JU must become financially stable and to operate independently from the Serbian government. However, how can they achieve that with all those departments located in AUH?<br /><br />If they do bring them back, the situation in JU will only improve. Nemjeenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-82759277708747706962018-05-03T19:20:03.637+02:002018-05-03T19:20:03.637+02:00B733 were originally planned for charter traffic o...B733 were originally planned for charter traffic only, but later on they became useful as replacement for the planes out of traffic. They were flying also during winter schedule, at the time when JU planned to lease YU-APD.<br />And after all why not? The planes are owned by JU and this plane is still operational in Europe.<br /><br />Regarding to reliability we all know that older plane does not mean less reliable plane. The point is that you need to invest more in that plane in order in can be daily operational, but you do not have to pay for leasing. <br /><br />Didn't we hear on press conference held by Republican party that there was serious technical problem on Airbus aircraft in Zurich? It can happen to any plane.<br /><br />JU must learn to be financially independent from Government. If Serbia joins EU in 2025 it will be learnt on the more difficult way.<br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-58377627450486330392018-05-03T18:42:16.762+02:002018-05-03T18:42:16.762+02:00Did you know that Jat did not have control over it...Did you know that Jat did not have control over its finances? The ministry of finances was in charge and was dictating what happens with the incoming cash. <br /><br /><br />Maybe Air Serbia did not launch any new routes but look at the amount of flying done by the B733s. This only goes to show that there is a realistic need for additional Airbuses. <br />As for the Atrs, Dane was spinning the news when he said they were saving a lot of money on them. Reality is that they are becoming increasingly unreliable. Look at what happened today. Zagreb was operated by the A319. Morning Ljubljana cancelled while the evening one was operated by the B733.<br /><br />Mind you, YU-ANI is coming back. Why isn't Etihad sending one of its own Airbuses in stead of bringing back this old bird?<br /><br />Like I wrote many times before. Air Serbia is alive today only because of the team that's running the show in Belgrade. Nemjeenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-47798890639002560432018-05-03T17:42:50.034+02:002018-05-03T17:42:50.034+02:00Nebojsa, actually there was a point in replacing A...Nebojsa, actually there was a point in replacing ATRs after 2013. Air Serbia outlined the plan to replace them by April of 2018 (plans change though):<br /><br />http://www.exyuaviation.com/2015/04/air-serbia-to-replace-atrs-over-next.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-5415536897759712252018-05-03T16:30:23.593+02:002018-05-03T16:30:23.593+02:00Some things need to be put here on the right place...Some things need to be put here on the right place.<br /><br />Jat Airways was in the state it was mostly due to the people who were running it. It means incompetent persons who played Gods and who reported only to the ruling political party. <br /><br />The best proof for it was the fleet size Jat had in the spring 2013 when they had to cancel many flights due to the fact they did not do on time technical checks on B733. Without Government support they would not have been able to even lease Bulgarian B733 in sardine configuration. <br /><br />Let me remind you that for each repair they did out of Serbia they had to pay in advance.<br /><br />There was no point replacing B733 and Atrs after 2013 because JU owns them and B733 on charter flights (or replacement of A319/A320 on some scheduled flights) as well as Atrs on regional flights were bringing nothing but live cash.<br /><br />There was even one interview with Kondic some time before he left JU saying that ATR72-200 save significant money to them as JU does not have to lease these planes.<br /><br />2xB733 were retired as soon as additional cash had to be invested in them and it is logical move.<br /><br />Getting A319/A320 for show or not - they are backbone of JU fleet now and it is the fact. JU has not introduced many new destinations recently (not talking here about the reasons for it) so therefore new planes were not needed (apart from A332).<br /><br />Of course JU will live on if EY leaves, but how long we shall see. Hope it will not become Jat Airways where the screws were flying out of the wings during the flight or where successful management could not have at least painted the planes in Jat colours.<br /><br /> nebojsa popovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12045605646666193993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-67604563902294675192018-05-03T16:28:51.697+02:002018-05-03T16:28:51.697+02:00@Anon 2:36 ...or someone is just wishing very hard...@Anon 2:36 ...or someone is just wishing very hard for EY to leave JU despite signs to the contrary.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-81403139310553372862018-05-03T16:25:19.585+02:002018-05-03T16:25:19.585+02:00@Anon 1:55
All of this assumes Etihad is leaving....@Anon 1:55<br /><br />All of this assumes Etihad is leaving. If they are not, NEO deal will continue probably with different delivery schedule.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-49527823717559025942018-05-03T16:00:20.664+02:002018-05-03T16:00:20.664+02:00Varna on the Atr could not fit in the noon regiona...Varna on the Atr could not fit in the noon regional wave, that's why it had to be operated at night. Nemjeenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-18871651349718842912018-05-03T15:52:14.018+02:002018-05-03T15:52:14.018+02:00I can't believe that on SOF-ATH both FR and W6...I can't believe that on SOF-ATH both FR and W6 are flying it daily but they wont try BEG-ATH where we only have the two legacies...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-59101327348303395652018-05-03T15:51:23.753+02:002018-05-03T15:51:23.753+02:00I don't agree with you. Jat was in the state i...I don't agree with you. Jat was in the state in which it was because the government didn't allow it to manage its own affairs. <br />I think it was in 2010 that they got a loan from City Bank and most of it was kept by the government while JU got peanuts just to fix some technical issues it had with its fleet.<br /><br />If EY was such a master at leasing aircraft then they would have helped JU replace those old Atrs and B733s.<br />The truth is that EY did the least they could do and they got the 10 Airbuses only for show, because they had to. That happened when the project was launched and that was it. <br />Let me remind you that YU-APD was the last A319 to join the fleet and that was in September 2014. What happened since then? Only one Airbus was added, the A332, and only because the government insisted on launching JFK flights. <br /><br />All in all, if EY walks away, JU will live on. Nemjeenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-62797105242401775662018-05-03T15:40:53.051+02:002018-05-03T15:40:53.051+02:00Neka odu i treba da odu, daleko im lepa kuca i nas...Neka odu i treba da odu, daleko im lepa kuca i nasa deca ce otplacivati kredite koje su nam dali sa najvisim kamatama. Ko od Arapa vidi vajdu taj se nije rodio.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com