tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post2888845066809395614..comments2024-03-29T02:11:52.308+01:00Comments on EX-YU Aviation News: KLM launching Zagreb flightsEX-YU Aviationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13952283005857074627noreply@blogger.comBlogger87125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-58343207514666824852014-01-13T16:32:59.845+01:002014-01-13T16:32:59.845+01:00@Anon 6:24
Actually, I flew on YU-AND on LHR rout...@Anon 6:24<br /><br />Actually, I flew on YU-AND on LHR route on Sunday (only 733 service this month...), so I guess they don't really mind white aircraft. It's old LH Recaros on the inside, and "middle seat empty" tray in the C class.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-90377677108414627732014-01-13T10:42:02.033+01:002014-01-13T10:42:02.033+01:00Well, not really. Croatia is in the European Union...Well, not really. Croatia is in the European Union now and it is subject to agreements already signed with Brussels among which is the liberalization of the air market between Croatia and Serbia. Technically there are no more restrictions on Air Serbia's expansion into Croatia.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-84649549816070714482014-01-13T09:48:32.215+01:002014-01-13T09:48:32.215+01:00sve su indicije da ce JAT konacno uspeti da pokren...sve su indicije da ce JAT konacno uspeti da pokrene BNX. Mada ne treba biti ni previše optimističan. Kad iyadju an jedno tri leta dnevno prema Beg ili dva plus nesto upotrebljivo prema zapadnoj Evropi, to ce biti prava stvar. Aleksandar Kuzmanovićhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05378526232389456204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-78467981958587557862014-01-13T02:35:21.319+01:002014-01-13T02:35:21.319+01:00I guess it is now obvious to everybody that Zagreb...I guess it is now obvious to everybody that Zagreb airport is a joke and that French have no other plans than to bring some cheap subsidiaries and low-cost airlines to pump the numbers in Zagreb while OU will go belly up or become a holiday airline. The new airport plan will be either scrapped or downsized in order to fit the new business plan that isn't compatible with a terminal that is expensive to build&operate and where airbridges are not of a crucial requirement. Things are looking up for Zagreb.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-26215364401776747112014-01-12T14:42:13.769+01:002014-01-12T14:42:13.769+01:00@AnonymousJanuary 12, 2014 at 2:21 AM
Croatian al...@AnonymousJanuary 12, 2014 at 2:21 AM<br /><br />Croatian already flies 21 times per week to Split, adding Rome and Madrid and you come to 35. <br /><br />To clarify Zagreb - Split - Rome - Spit - Zagreb x 14 and Zagreb - Split - Madrid - Zagreb - 14 times per week. <br /><br />I guess 35 might be tad to much, 28 than. <br /><br />BTW Split is a 2nd city and main focus city. Dubrovnik really isn't that busy during winter months, you could increase frequency to twice daily flights. <br /><br />BTW this is a sumer schedule, winter there'd be less flights naturally. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-83894357078843750452014-01-12T02:21:37.079+01:002014-01-12T02:21:37.079+01:00Oh my lovely God. 35x to Split, what the Hell? And...Oh my lovely God. 35x to Split, what the Hell? And 5x to Dubrovnik, that is disconnected of the main territory of Croatia? 21x Rome, 14x Madrid... There are 4 million of us, no 40!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-58713925540378741982014-01-11T23:49:50.077+01:002014-01-11T23:49:50.077+01:00I know that APD is undergoing cabin reconfiguratio...I know that APD is undergoing cabin reconfiguration, but when will it arrive in BEG?Slobanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-26406681171785445292014-01-11T23:36:44.152+01:002014-01-11T23:36:44.152+01:00Thanks, I have also heard that Boeings will not be...Thanks, I have also heard that Boeings will not be repainted but it is really silly to have some of these planes flying around in totally white livery. After all YU-AON also had C check but it is still in old JAT livery , not fully white as YU-AND was seen today at BEGAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-7875606191151174762014-01-11T22:00:25.286+01:002014-01-11T22:00:25.286+01:00Not sure about APD, if I find out I will post it. ...Not sure about APD, if I find out I will post it. I haven't seen AND but I think it will not be in AS livery because AS wants to phase out Boeings, ATR will be in repainted Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-29774470695336227652014-01-11T21:44:49.893+01:002014-01-11T21:44:49.893+01:00If YU-AND remains in JU fleet, does it mean it wil...If YU-AND remains in JU fleet, does it mean it will have new Air Serbia livery?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-76118960862330680672014-01-11T21:41:55.857+01:002014-01-11T21:41:55.857+01:00C-check, cabin reconfiguration. C-check, cabin reconfiguration. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-37143989866142992632014-01-11T21:34:05.910+01:002014-01-11T21:34:05.910+01:00Thanks for the info. And what about APD?Thanks for the info. And what about APD?Slobanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-45487552663947542992014-01-11T21:06:14.340+01:002014-01-11T21:06:14.340+01:00It seems like they are doing all they can to ruin ...It seems like they are doing all they can to ruin the company. Losers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-53995708146889527692014-01-11T20:53:54.142+01:002014-01-11T20:53:54.142+01:00Perhaps they are filling Belle Air shoes. Some com...Perhaps they are filling Belle Air shoes. Some companies have taken over these routes, so they might lease CA jets to operate.midwesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12099372321295396941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-28011939048534466632014-01-11T20:53:32.751+01:002014-01-11T20:53:32.751+01:00@Charlie
Utilise them of course.
Reason why OU i...@Charlie<br /><br />Utilise them of course.<br /><br />Reason why OU isn't, there are few reasons fir it. <br /><br /><br />One, they'd have to maintain full service to destination year round and with 12 aircraft that is almost impossible. <br /><br />Two, they'd have less aircraft to cover summer season and bring in more holidaymakers. <br /><br />Three, risks associated with new untested routes, they're betting on safe destinations, Frankfurt, London, Paris, Vienna, Munch and than do mostly summer charters to cover any holes. <br /><br />fourth, they have too few aircraft to maintain full on scheduled service to 30 destinations year round and 7 months tourist season. <br /><br />OU should be flying on a weekly basis to:<br /><br />Stockholm x7 <br />Copenhagen x7<br />Oslo x5<br />Dublin x5<br />London x21<br />Amsterdam x 15<br />Brussels x15<br />Hamburg x5<br />Berlin x14<br />Warsaw x5<br />Krakow x3<br />Munich x21<br />Frankfurt x28<br />Stuttgart (140 000 Croats live in area around Stuttgart) x 8 <br />Zürich x14<br />Vienna x21<br />Prague x8<br />Budapest x10<br />Milan x10<br />Rome x21<br />Madrid x14<br />Barcelona x5<br />Lisabon x4<br />Tirana x 6<br />Pristina x 11<br />Skopje x14<br />Sarajevo x21<br />Athens x6<br />Istanbul x10<br />Paris x21<br />Helsinki x4<br />Moscow x6<br />Split x35<br />Dubrovnik x7<br />Zadar x3<br />Osijek x3<br /><br />And for that they'll need a lot larger fleet than 12 aircraft currently OU has, at least 20 and that requires commitment, good leasing agreement that won't tie airline to long term financially unfavorable lease agreements and long term strategy. <br /><br />OU currently flies to 28 destinations on add-hock basis at best of times. I think you see the problem. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-74067703113992191872014-01-11T20:33:11.199+01:002014-01-11T20:33:11.199+01:00The CEO of OU sits under Angie Merkels Christmas t...The CEO of OU sits under Angie Merkels Christmas tree and sings Danke Deutschland.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-35791776567169272802014-01-11T20:31:35.018+01:002014-01-11T20:31:35.018+01:00Today, YU-AND officially entered in service after ...Today, YU-AND officially entered in service after maintenance. Recently AON entered as well but soon ANI and ANJ will be out of service due to schedule maintenance. AS wants as soon as possible to return Oscars, APF is planned to arrive in mid January (15-17th)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-59668765024090501112014-01-11T20:16:02.864+01:002014-01-11T20:16:02.864+01:00Does anyone know if the privatisation of OU will c...Does anyone know if the privatisation of OU will continue, or at least try to continue, considering the 6 months deadline the Zagreb Airport Management gave them?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-30649323104276435302014-01-11T20:10:16.103+01:002014-01-11T20:10:16.103+01:00As a preemptive strike, would OU launch ZAG-BEG an...As a preemptive strike, would OU launch ZAG-BEG and then sign a code-share with Air Serbia to capitalize on their (Eastern) network?<br /><br />-- CharlieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-30854124092967378282014-01-11T20:05:59.964+01:002014-01-11T20:05:59.964+01:00What should CA do with its underutilized planes in...What should CA do with its underutilized planes in the winter season?<br /><br />-- CharlieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-69673621242289849172014-01-11T20:02:10.494+01:002014-01-11T20:02:10.494+01:00If OU would really start flying to Belgrade...
How...If OU would really start flying to Belgrade...<br />How would they advertise that route in Croatia and beyound?<br />Zagreb to East Lipovac Airport and back?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-68056036413147192942014-01-11T19:50:05.569+01:002014-01-11T19:50:05.569+01:00Why is this all happening? Where is the CEO of OU?...Why is this all happening? Where is the CEO of OU? I never hear any positive outcome T273Cfrom his side. Where he is by the way? OU is going to die!! What are the results since he is CEO? <br />I think he is ruining OU and filling his own pockets! <br />Please get rid of him as soon as possible. <br />He is a corrupt man and we allow him to do so together with his friends. <br />It will costs a lot of jobs if he can do what he wants. <br />Please stop that man before it is too late!!! <br />Where are the Unions? Anonymushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11943704939260951048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-44068925867355727452014-01-11T19:49:49.201+01:002014-01-11T19:49:49.201+01:00Not really, if Croatia and Serbia agreed on establ...Not really, if Croatia and Serbia agreed on establishing mutual air links, than there are conditions under which mutual flights can be maintained. Air Serbia or any other Serbian carrier is allowed to fly to Croatian coastal resorts certain number of times and in return Croatian Airlines is allowed certain number of flights to Serbia. <br /><br />I think 60 flights have been agreed so far, if Croatian airlines were to establish direct link to Belgrade it would be once per week flight, not worth commercially, reason why there are no flights between Belgrade and Zagreb. <br /><br />Perhaps more flights can be agreed on in 2015, and this is when Croatia Belgrade with twice weekly service at first and perhaps even trice weekly service if there is a demand. <br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-75284313778099745282014-01-11T19:39:39.769+01:002014-01-11T19:39:39.769+01:00I disagree Charlie, Croatian Airlines has only one...I disagree Charlie, Croatian Airlines has only one hub, Zagreb, with focus cities Dubrovnik and Split. <br /><br />Problem with Croatian Airlines is poor utilization of the fleet and sacrificing half of the fleet to cover summer season, leaving only few aircraft to cover scheduled flights which gives Croatian Airlines poor reputation among fellow travelers. <br /><br />Croatia must maintain its full scheduled service if its to compete with likes of KLM, SAS and Lufthansa on most popular routes, being cheaper than the rest doesn't work all the time. <br /><br />Croatia airlines must decide if it is a holiday airline or a scheduled passenger airline, and must maintain Zagreb through out the year not just when they have nothing to do in winters. <br /><br /><br />Split, Dubrovnik barely have any traffic, 30 000 pax for both airports in winter months, indicating a true nature of Croatia's coastal airports which is a holiday destinations. <br /><br />Only way Croatian Airlines can really make decent money is to become a proper scheduled service airline with a niche, it can't remain being both holiday and scheduled airline. <br /><br />And yes I agree corruption and nepotism are really big issues in Croatian airlines, btw USKOK is investigating Croatian airlines over reported funds and fraud during Sanader's reign. <br /><br />It seems few individuals in Croatia made good profits on back of purchase of brand new A319 aircraft at inflated price. heads will roll that is certain, stay tuned to this story, <br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-4484560357563628502014-01-11T19:36:10.491+01:002014-01-11T19:36:10.491+01:00Airline travel demand low? Are you serious?Airline travel demand low? Are you serious?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com