tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post3583376718570690691..comments2024-03-29T01:02:37.939+01:00Comments on EX-YU Aviation News: All set for US flightsEX-YU Aviationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13952283005857074627noreply@blogger.comBlogger80125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-26531007089851455642011-06-09T10:34:00.166+02:002011-06-09T10:34:00.166+02:00Izvor: Vecernje Novosti
AMERIČKA avio-kompanija „...Izvor: Vecernje Novosti<br /><br />AMERIČKA avio-kompanija „Svift er“ koja je nedavno dobila dozvolu za direktnu liniju Čikago - Beograd podnela je u sredu novi zahtev Direktoratu civilnog vazduhoplovstva Srbije. Kako saznaju „Novosti“, ova avio-kompanija traži spajanje linija za Beograd i Zagreb. Tako će od 17. juna do 29. decembra saobraćati na relaciji Čikago - Zagreb - Beograd - Zagreb - Čikago.<br /><br />- Dobiće dozvolu na osnovu ove aplikacije jer nema razloga da ih odbijemo - kaže za „Novosti“ Katarina Andrić-Milosavljević, savetnik za odnose sa medijima u Direktoratu. - Ali, ova avio-kompanija neće prevoziti putnike koji bi želeli da lete samo od Beograda do Zagreba ili od Zagreba do Beograda.<br /><br />Iako su se predstavnici „Svifta“ pre oko mesec dana predstavljajući dve nove direktne linije Čikago - Beograd i Čikago - Zagreb pohvalili odličnom prodajom karata, ispostavilo se da to baš i nije tako, sudeći po obrazloženju zahteva, koji su podneli Direktoratu. Naime, u aplikaciji navode da nemaju dovoljan broj putnika za odvojene letove ka srpskom i hrvatskom glavnom gradu pa iz ekonomskih razloga traže da se linije spoje.<br /><br />Početna cena povratne karte sa taksama je 795 evra kada se kupuje u Beogradu, a 1.250 dolara ako se kupuje u SAD. „Svift“ će iz Čikaga leteti petkom, a iz Beograda nedeljom.Maxwellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06054646688898196630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-67272406546084541492011-06-04T14:38:11.168+02:002011-06-04T14:38:11.168+02:00Although AirPlus announces new service between Pho...Although AirPlus announces new service between Phoenix, Arizona and Belgrade and Zagreb via Chicago, just received rumor that maiden Belgrade and Zagreb flights are postponed for July 15 and 18 respectively. Can anyone confirm?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-83998024712004740592011-05-31T11:38:31.744+02:002011-05-31T11:38:31.744+02:00You'll see few more good moves made by JAT. As...You'll see few more good moves made by JAT. As I said before the company is restructuring itself with new, educated, experienced people. Since the US is a high priority on our list, we've announced officially that our branch in New York is closing and a new branch in Chicago will start working by the end of June 2011. Expect some very pleasant surprises by JAT. :-)Maxwellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06054646688898196630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-68081010674136138742011-05-27T20:31:07.782+02:002011-05-27T20:31:07.782+02:00@ anonymous
I agree with major part of what you w...@ anonymous<br /><br />I agree with major part of what you wrote. Except, in february 2010, JU was already blacklisted by clearing house for not paying their obligations. IATA cannot know financial position of JU until suppliers start reporting debt. Anyway, I would not like to see them go down, not because of me personaly but rather because of damage to serbian aviation which that could cause. <br />Regarding Blic, this article was not just in Blic, and i do know that JU did not in last week have 9 aircrafts active but rather 6-7. What helped was the vulcano, which they used smart to cancel some flights. This was a good move by JU.dusanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05928437976171440511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-51261197340861888462011-05-24T08:36:44.751+02:002011-05-24T08:36:44.751+02:00The government doesn’t give any money to JU, which...The government doesn’t give any money to JU, which is why JU has to take out loans. The only thing the government does is be a guarantee meaning they tell the bank that JU will return the money in due course (and they can’t even do that properly). If you are basing all your assumptions about JU on a “Blic” article than by now Jat should have gone bankrupt 500 times, blacklisted by IATA and the EU and so on. They publish an anti Jat article at least once per year and give grim predictions and yet they are still flying.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-68116899046407978762011-05-24T06:04:07.343+02:002011-05-24T06:04:07.343+02:00Government does not have any money left for JU my ...Government does not have any money left for JU my friend for this year at least. It is election year. Spending money on promotions only. Now all political parties are turning to themself not to JU. That is the reason why i previously said, no one will care to help JU, the power grip fight started and all of them will be obbsesed with that. I hoped that JU will use those millions in guarantees much better as I saw that as only chance for JU but it seams that money just disapeared. Some of that, they actually never recieved from the banks, some of it was spent on debt they had previously, and some of it spent wrong. That is when I realized that JU will have huge problems this summer. For the sake of my family, my hometown and my country I hope worst wont happen, but no politician will approve money to JU in time when he needs to show publicly that he is here to bring solid business, and all those other empty promises. That is the way i see it, i hope they had backup plan.dusanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05928437976171440511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-23261208515821033272011-05-22T16:01:02.027+02:002011-05-22T16:01:02.027+02:00i meant several hundered thousands, i.e. 200-300.0...i meant several hundered thousands, i.e. 200-300.000 eurosPetarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08097841895448140789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-64885395392483221612011-05-22T15:59:53.590+02:002011-05-22T15:59:53.590+02:00I mean, how hard would it be for Serbian govmnt to...I mean, how hard would it be for Serbian govmnt to cash out and pay for JAT's engines that are being repaired. Not to say this is right, but if this will cause so much damage, I see no other way but for govemt to step in... <br />In Croatia for example, our government has been doing this for over a decade for soome of our shipyards. Something like 1 to 1.5 billion euros each year...out of tax payers' pockets. Engine repair wouldn't cost more than something like several thousands of euros, if even that, right ?<br />c'mon...Petarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08097841895448140789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-12947099016886607142011-05-22T01:19:13.764+02:002011-05-22T01:19:13.764+02:00BEG AP will loose some of pax. But my humble opini...BEG AP will loose some of pax. But my humble opinion is that there will be much more problems than just pax loss. Belgrade as destination will be damaged totaly. First BA cancels flights, than JU cancels flights shile surrounding airports add flights. This will permanently damage Belgrade as destination.dusanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05928437976171440511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-51532279999059519822011-05-18T11:22:28.714+02:002011-05-18T11:22:28.714+02:00@dusan and maxwell,
as for the possible flight ca...@dusan and maxwell,<br /><br />as for the possible flight cancellations, what would this mean in terms of passenger loss ? If JAT won't be in a position to cover the routes through airplane lease, can some other airline (i.e. Macedonian airlines, BiH) cover some of the routes by increasing their flight frequencies from cities such as Sarajevo Skopje and Ohrid which are most likely to be reduced by JAT during peak months ? <br />Will BEG airport suffer from the loss of passengers this summer...?Petarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08097841895448140789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-3863990237183169552011-05-18T07:08:41.512+02:002011-05-18T07:08:41.512+02:00I am not angry, I am passionate, two different thi...I am not angry, I am passionate, two different things my friend, anyway, lets talk more on May 20th... 20,000$ per month and I fix JU without a dime of investment, in 6 months. Of course, let the best option win... <br /> Did you read this article?<br /><br />http://www.blic.rs/Vesti/Ekonomija/253021/Jat-ce-morati-da--otkazuje-letove-zbog-manjka---aviona<br /><br />Just dont end DUS or FRA before July 1, I still did not refund all the tickets :)dusanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05928437976171440511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-15085773831469634072011-05-16T10:37:53.945+02:002011-05-16T10:37:53.945+02:00@Dusan
You're a very funny but angry man. :-)...@Dusan<br /><br />You're a very funny but angry man. :-) May the best option win regardless if it's JAT or your Airplus.Maxwellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06054646688898196630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-31329566598038427992011-05-15T01:43:11.738+02:002011-05-15T01:43:11.738+02:00Unfortunately many comments were deleted on Friday...Unfortunately many comments were deleted on Friday as a result of major technical problems which were experienced by Blogger. They were not deleted because of the content.EX-YU Aviationhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13952283005857074627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-26157797911213763022011-05-15T00:07:43.566+02:002011-05-15T00:07:43.566+02:00As from previous days my answers and comments disa...As from previous days my answers and comments disapeared. I will just leave short note to Maxwell.<br /><br />Dear Director of Overseas sales,my consultancy fees are not that expensive, and could have more positive effect for JU. When JU decides to start pulling itself up I will be available... Until then i gave enough free advices.<br /><br />@ ALL<br /><br />It is very important that we show our contries deserved projects such as this. It will show we are ready for serious business and open our doors to simmilar projects. Now lets show to everybody that we are not third world countries but rather center of europe and great destination.dusanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05928437976171440511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-63650178955930633102011-05-12T08:25:15.209+02:002011-05-12T08:25:15.209+02:00So back to basics, Maxwell, you need aircrafts, yo...So back to basics, Maxwell, you need aircrafts, you need people that work for company not for parties and you need to stop this kind of embarasment. First you will loose half of your fleet by 10th of june as you do not have anymore backups, so in high season one or two AC's out of order and boom there goes the week. Yesterday you had only 5 733 and 1 ATR active. Then on top of it you will recieve "heafty" fines from your partners for illegal ticketing that costed them millions, and big boys dont forget millions, and then thousands of people working for JU will be in deep deep problem and passengers also. And only thing you can do to stop this is just to accept that you have major problems coming up and that those problems need to be solved not allow to become even bigger. Ask for help now dont go against everyone and everything and think you are the smartest airline when facts show different. For God's sake Belle Air has bigger fleet than you now and you are still talking about return to transatlantic flying... Can you read what you wrote please and instead of being condecending start thinking? Just go and ask for help anyone who is not pissed at you. It is a small number but that is your only chance and you do not have time anymore. <br /><br />P.S. I am not worried about Air Plus and their sales, they propably have more money than they need anyway, and it looks like they will have to add flights to protect your pax when you have a flat tire ;) So lets wait and see who is real "risk" this summer. Last time i believed JU and it costed me a lot and i almost went out of business because your representative in US took off with pax money. So this time i am not betting on JU anymore. I wish you all the luck, from bottom of my heart. But my friend this is not the way to run the airline, especialy "renowned" one ;)<br /><br />My grandpa had a good saying, "pred zoru se mrzne" and it seams JU menagement still does not know what that means.dusanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05928437976171440511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-34457705612605326742011-05-12T07:43:50.017+02:002011-05-12T07:43:50.017+02:00@ Maxwell
It is very nice that Director of Overse...@ Maxwell<br /><br />It is very nice that Director of Overseas sales in JU is this much on the forum. <br />Regarding my hate towards JU, it is very obnoxious comment, half of my family works in JU, other half is your frequent flyer, and this is how i started to Hate MENAGEMENT of JAT not JAT!!! I gave to that company millions of dollars of revenue in last 8 years, and few times was your biggest producer in US. That is the hate i have for JU. Now, regarding your big comeback on the market, or transatlantic flights. Here is the best answer for it, and JU menagement gave it for me.<br /><br />http://www.blic.rs/Vesti/Ekonomija/253021/Jat-ce-morati-da--otkazuje-letove-zbog-manjka---aviona<br /><br /><br />@ Petar<br /><br />It is usual thing that flights from EU start picking up "5minutes to 12". Visa requirement is major reason why people on Balkan purchase tickets almost 2 minutes before departure. I know this guy Ivan, since it was old Kompas. Very strong and decent company. Consolidators that are selling these flights, and JU behaviour, were actually the reason i started selling charter flights.dusanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05928437976171440511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-67580840730150394442011-05-11T08:31:52.696+02:002011-05-11T08:31:52.696+02:00This is the exact response from Kompas (in croatia...This is the exact response from Kompas (in croatian) - seems like a real nice guy, responded swiftly.<br /><br />Hvala Vam na javljanju, <br /> <br />prodaju smo služebno započeli jučer tako da nemamo relevantnih podataka - za sada je sve na vrlo intenzivnoj<br />zvonjavai telefona i raspitivanju - prve relevantne informacije negdje početkom lipnja pa mi se slobodno<br />javite...<br /> <br />Po prvim infoamcijama iz Chicaga - gdje je puno važnija točka prodaje - za sada ide dobro - taj produkt<br />prodaje veliki broj agenata. Za američke turiste mi se čini prekasno - ali dobra priprema za 2012....<br /> <br />Prvi let će biti 22.6. iz Zagreba , 20.6. iz Chicaga - nadamo se najboljem ...<br /> <br />Lp, Ivan/ Kompas ZagrebPetarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08097841895448140789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-9310998980350499812011-05-11T06:35:13.873+02:002011-05-11T06:35:13.873+02:00@Dusan
I never said that TSA gives the Category 1...@Dusan<br /><br />I never said that TSA gives the Category 1 approval. Read my posts carefully, not with prejudice and hatred. As I said let's wait and see what happens. BTW as Petar said a lot of agencies got the licence to sell your Airplus tickets but they are hesitant to start. After all it is a huge risk. Airplus is not a renowned air carrier like other airlines. People are scared that the first flight might never take off. :-))Maxwellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06054646688898196630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-68521894092470560392011-05-10T19:05:15.879+02:002011-05-10T19:05:15.879+02:00thanks to both, Maxwell and esp. to Dusan for a de...thanks to both, Maxwell and esp. to Dusan for a detailed overview of the process :)<br />I just want to see some flights rolling.<br />I wrote to Kompas agency in Croatia asking them how the ticket selling is doing, and they answered that they started selling just yesterday...they also pointed out that most tickets are being sold through numerous agencies in the U.S. <br />I wish it works out well for both Zag and Beg.Petarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08097841895448140789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-32692030833448938772011-05-10T14:23:42.446+02:002011-05-10T14:23:42.446+02:00@ Maxwell
Yes I am connected with Air Plus. I sel...@ Maxwell<br /><br />Yes I am connected with Air Plus. I sell their tickets like any of their agents. And we were forced to do that after you guys made a mess for us. That was the only way I could survive this summer when you guys left all of travel agents selling your tickets for years hanging dry. Cursive words could not even start to express frustration that agents that were filling up your aircrafts felt when you did not extend not one contract that you had. We are not here to express profesionalism we are here to blogg which means that someone sent you here to write what you write. And now, you are extending contract after Air Plus started non-stop flights, who will purchase those tickets now after their first flight is airborne? You guys screwed all of us big time, but anyway all the best with those. <br /><br />I am using scare tactics? I just said what is happening on the market, not what will be if it happens like you are doing. Who do I need to scare away from JU? You guys do wonderfull job on your own with that. <br /><br /><br />@ Maxwell<br /><br />Dude TSA does not give Category 1 approval. FAA gives approval, and for that they left you list of 11 things to get it back in 2006. Only guy that was working on that as hard as possible was Mr. Nikitovic from Serbian Consulate in Chicago. Guy was going trough hell trying to help Serbia regain Cat 1, and again JU was blocking new law that was needed to regain it. So let me teach you how the proccess goes with Category 1.<br /><br />First you need to get support from US Embassy in Belgrade. Their review can help you a lot.<br /><br />Then you apply to FAA and ICAO. it takes usually between 3-6 months.<br />For their full review.<br /><br />Then they send ispectors.Another 3 months.<br /><br />If inspectors approve you then you go to TSA for checkin security audit. 1 month. <br /><br />Then if you pass all of these you are able to get Cat 1 by FAA on ICAO standards.<br /><br />But there is a lot of other things you need to do on top of it in order to get approval to actually fly. And CAT 1 can be blocked by US airline same way you blocked others in Serbia. <br /><br /><br />So here is the advice. <br /><br />Make friends out of US Embassy and ask for their positive review.<br />Make friends in FAA and ICAO and ask them for points how to do it.<br />Make friends with US carriers for operational support.<br />And be nice toward TSA inspectors. <br />Than you have a chance to get CAT 1. But it still does not mean that JU will get security clearance to fly to US and this is why you need support from everyone like Croatia did.<br /><br />Learn dude learn that is how you get things done.<br /><br />It will have no use when you get new contract in June if you do not do it right this time. Air Plus will have big advantage with their flights non-stop and only way you can do something about it is getting CAT 1 as a country.dusanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05928437976171440511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-84678538186841953232011-05-10T12:43:11.385+02:002011-05-10T12:43:11.385+02:00IASA category ratings for the South-East European ...IASA category ratings for the South-East European countries:<br /><br />Albania - not rated<br />Bosnia - not rated<br />Bulgaria - Cat. 1<br />Croatia - Cat. 1<br />Greece - Cat. 1<br />Macedonia - not rated<br />Montenegro - not rated<br />Romania - Cat. 1<br />Serbia - Cat. 2<br />Slovenia - not ratedMaxwellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06054646688898196630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-82965382042628276902011-05-10T12:34:49.658+02:002011-05-10T12:34:49.658+02:00@Petar
One more important thing - with the Intern...@Petar<br /><br />One more important thing - with the International Aviation Safety Assessment (IASA) Category 2 rating, air carriers can not establish new service to the U.S.<br /><br />Croatia was upgraded from Cat. 2 to Cat. 1 on January 29th, 2011 I think by the FAA, and Serbia's rating is still Cat. 2 for now although a lot of work is being done for a positive ratings change and possible upgrade to Cat.1 as well.Maxwellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06054646688898196630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-36329545195090872582011-05-10T12:29:17.931+02:002011-05-10T12:29:17.931+02:00@Petar
A Category 1 rating means the country'...@Petar<br /><br />A Category 1 rating means the country's civil aviation authority complies with ICAO (International Civil Aviation Organization) standards. A Category 2 rating means a country either lacks laws or regulations necessary to oversee air carriers in accordance with minimum international standards, or that its civil aviation authority -- equivalent to the FAA for aviation safety matters -- is deficient in one or more areas, such as technical expertise, trained personnel, record keeping or inspection procedures.<br />Hope this helps. :-)Maxwellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06054646688898196630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-30161674098418907982011-05-10T11:09:58.790+02:002011-05-10T11:09:58.790+02:00@Maxwell and Dusan,
Would any one of you know wha...@Maxwell and Dusan,<br /><br />Would any one of you know what does it mean if a country is classified by TSA in category 1 vs. category 2? <br />What does it mean for the country, its transatlantic routes and its national carrier ? Or is it relevant much at all...?<br />thnxPetarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08097841895448140789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-21232830999126769802011-05-10T09:24:02.626+02:002011-05-10T09:24:02.626+02:00@Dusan
My friend, you have a lot of anger in you....@Dusan<br /><br />My friend, you have a lot of anger in you. Please restrain yourself from using cursive phrases and words. First of all it's not polite, and secondly not very professional. It's obvious that you're connected with Airplus in some way and you take everything to heart.<br />JAT has been written-off and placed on the R.I.P. list by many in the past decades, but they've been always proven wrong.<br />Anyway, time will tell who was placing wrong info on this forum and who was using scare tactics to sell their own tickets.<br />Let's wait and see. :-)Maxwellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06054646688898196630noreply@blogger.com