tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post3704137332556477922..comments2024-03-28T11:03:06.543+01:00Comments on EX-YU Aviation News: Air Serbia demands return to AtaturkEX-YU Aviationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13952283005857074627noreply@blogger.comBlogger58125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-74767357772946040772014-02-16T12:09:47.067+01:002014-02-16T12:09:47.067+01:00it looks better on ATRs because the lettering is a...it looks better on ATRs because the lettering is above the windows, not across them. so much more elegant. that was my criticism of the AS livery from the start, thank god they finally came round to their senses. the 319s should be repainted in the same fashion. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-50528563913497928652014-02-16T11:15:14.736+01:002014-02-16T11:15:14.736+01:00I fly regularly the Zurich-route and except Wednes...I fly regularly the Zurich-route and except Wednesday (when the LF is about 30-40%) the planes are between 75-85% full. I speak about the winter season. Summer is a different story.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-47269199808712742252014-02-16T10:46:45.764+01:002014-02-16T10:46:45.764+01:00Guys, is it true that YU-ALO did not receive new s...Guys, is it true that YU-ALO did not receive new seats? Only new livery?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-82129062329428009682014-02-16T09:59:12.506+01:002014-02-16T09:59:12.506+01:00Exactly. I never advocated for Air Serbia to compl...Exactly. I never advocated for Air Serbia to completely suspend Sabiha flights. All I said was that they need to return to Ataturk airport. In my opinion the best solution would be to fly daily to IST and then to reduce SAW to four weekly flights. <br /><br />Flying daily to SAW is a bit too much, especially since Air Serbia's brand recognition in Istanbul is close to zero. By keeping SAW flights, they will retain some of the O&D passengers who are price sensitive (unfortunately this is not a small group of travellers). <br />In my opinion, the reason why SAW is performing badly is because Air Serbia dumped capacity overnight. Jat Airways used to fly 4/5 times per week mostly using the Atr. The first thing Air Serbia did was to upgauge the route which is even today operated by the B737. If I am not mistaken they have also added some frequencies to SAW in the meantime. This is the same story as Tel Aviv. It takes time for a route to mature. If it was that easy to fill seats on a plane then almost all European carriers would have been mega-airlines today.<br /><br />By the way, I highly doubt Air Serbia will be reducing Tel Aviv at any point. It is an important market because it is high-yielding. After all, it will take some time for Air Serbia to position itself on the Israeli market. That will be no easy task having in mind Turkish Airlines flies up to 8 times per day there, their B777-300 and A330-300 are common sight at TLV. Even Pegasus increased TLV to double daily. If Air Serbia was not serious enough about Tel Aviv, then they would not have immediately increased it to daily, dedicated service out of Belgrade. Nemjeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09529227010459770718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-68214366088386368222014-02-16T09:17:36.465+01:002014-02-16T09:17:36.465+01:00Also, it depends on your needs, I fully agree JU s...Also, it depends on your needs, I fully agree JU should fly to both SAW and IST. Few years ago I was twice on some conferences at one university on Asian side, flying to IST it was a nightmare. Obviously, it took ages to get trough passport control and claim baggage, then waiting for other participants to arrive (delayed flights, and so on), and in the end, going with minivan to the Asian side (3 hours in bus), it took ages, and it was a hot, very hot summer.<br />After the conference I was going to Morocco with some friends from SAW - completely different, positive, story.<br />Istanbul is so big, and traffic is a complete disaster and JU should be flying to both airports.vasingtonskverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17516332075636978366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-75464359024705039372014-02-15T22:16:59.096+01:002014-02-15T22:16:59.096+01:00Zurich is doing ok, even outside the season. That ...Zurich is doing ok, even outside the season. That route is an anomaly. Most of the days it is around 70%.<br />Air Serbia should however improve its marketing strategy, the one they have now is rather bad. Also, morning flights are always performing worse than the afternoon ones because they have zero feed. This will change from March. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-89369718478656444362014-02-15T22:16:31.165+01:002014-02-15T22:16:31.165+01:00Great, an anonymous prediction that a route will d...Great, an anonymous prediction that a route will do well. Good one... <br /><br />-- Charlie Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-45135314614315147002014-02-15T22:05:26.001+01:002014-02-15T22:05:26.001+01:0011Feb14 JU370 BEG-ZRH total 25 Y pax B733 (20% CLF...11Feb14 JU370 BEG-ZRH total 25 Y pax B733 (20% CLF)<br />11Feb14 JU375 ZRH-BEG total 52 Y pax A319 (40% CLF). <br />Maybe tickets are not yet sufficiently cheaper to allow better CLF?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-9221670642678713372014-02-15T20:57:54.954+01:002014-02-15T20:57:54.954+01:00They won't suspend any route.
They will make a...They won't suspend any route.<br />They will make assessment in August,in order to cut off some lines as of October.<br />Still, it doesn't mean they will suspend any line next winter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-76220787443884560572014-02-15T20:57:06.925+01:002014-02-15T20:57:06.925+01:00Air Serbia will definitely NOT reduce/cancel any r...Air Serbia will definitely NOT reduce/cancel any route before winter 2014/15.<br />Even if Tel Aviv would do bad (what is so far only a rumour).<br />I even predict that route to become very succesfull in future.<br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-55921636276865287262014-02-15T20:33:47.209+01:002014-02-15T20:33:47.209+01:00I flew twice with AirSerbia to SAW in January, had...I flew twice with AirSerbia to SAW in January, hade some business in Istanbul, both flights were full, am i fool or maybe i had that experience by chance?Dusanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01191114300966961561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-87894649332713502202014-02-15T20:26:16.644+01:002014-02-15T20:26:16.644+01:00I would appreciate if somebody could respond back ...I would appreciate if somebody could respond back to this!<br />I bought two return tickets with Air Serbia( they were cheapest) to Tel Aviv for the beginning of July. I heard from this blog that Tel Aviv route is doing really bad, so is there a chance that Air Serbia will suspend that route till then.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-35491132914649218022014-02-15T20:16:58.576+01:002014-02-15T20:16:58.576+01:00^^^^ sorry for posting it twice, I didnt notice yo...^^^^ sorry for posting it twice, I didnt notice you responded back! CheersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-72732694853251932342014-02-15T20:15:51.608+01:002014-02-15T20:15:51.608+01:00does anybody really know what the loads are to Ist...does anybody really know what the loads are to Istanbul? Some people say its 50% full while others say its 90%.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-499422943326946442014-02-15T19:45:58.306+01:002014-02-15T19:45:58.306+01:00It's one of their worst performing routes that...It's one of their worst performing routes that's why they want to move. While it started off well when it launched LF now hovers around 50%EX-YU Aviationhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13952283005857074627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-78108314307026918412014-02-15T19:32:59.772+01:002014-02-15T19:32:59.772+01:00Ex Yu admin do you have any information on this to...Ex Yu admin do you have any information on this topic, some people say the LF is around 50%, while others say its 90%. I think both of them are wrong data to be honest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-55409263619493028902014-02-15T19:09:05.899+01:002014-02-15T19:09:05.899+01:00The aircraft looks simply stunning. Much better th...The aircraft looks simply stunning. Much better than the A319 in my opinion. <br />There are more pictures on Air Serbia's Instagram account.<br /><br />http://instagram.com/airserbiaNemjeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09529227010459770718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-36158888148135593272014-02-15T19:06:14.609+01:002014-02-15T19:06:14.609+01:00Well, I guess it all boils down to personal experi...Well, I guess it all boils down to personal experience. Mine was more or less ok at IST however I would hate to connect there. <br />I just think that if IST was so bad (for airlines, not passengers) carriers wouldn't be so interested in flying there. Mind you, even Lufthansa complained they could not get more slots at IST.<br />In my opinion JU should have daily flights to IST and then a few weekly to SAW. The market is big enough and there are enough connecting passengers. Nemjeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09529227010459770718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-92111767125497891832014-02-15T18:50:04.167+01:002014-02-15T18:50:04.167+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.Dusanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01191114300966961561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-9045454021615483092014-02-15T18:49:36.535+01:002014-02-15T18:49:36.535+01:00I was waiting passport control two hours at Atatur...I was waiting passport control two hours at Ataturk, at SAW it was take in 2 seconds and had bus to Taksim 45 minutes ride for 5 Euros....so what is better for passengers?Dusanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01191114300966961561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-41647140556215925422014-02-15T18:10:19.532+01:002014-02-15T18:10:19.532+01:00Well done AS management. Thats the way to talk to ...Well done AS management. Thats the way to talk to Turks. If they do not provide us with good slots, give them a night slot at Nis or Kraljevo.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-50416152927724000992014-02-15T17:53:20.297+01:002014-02-15T17:53:20.297+01:00OT: LJU airport handled 1.321.100 passengers in 20...OT: LJU airport handled 1.321.100 passengers in 2013, up 10,2% compared to 2012.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-33285896505340114042014-02-15T17:48:17.092+01:002014-02-15T17:48:17.092+01:00Air Serbia should stick to SAW,its the better airp...Air Serbia should stick to SAW,its the better airport in Istanbul.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-7836212252903115872014-02-15T17:12:47.916+01:002014-02-15T17:12:47.916+01:00Ер Сербија је била приморана да напусти Истанбул ј...Ер Сербија је била приморана да напусти Истанбул јер нису имали више слотове, турска власт им је одузела и дала друге у 02.30 ујутру. Енглези никада нису правили питање. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-34507491397724936202014-02-15T17:10:43.933+01:002014-02-15T17:10:43.933+01:00I do agree with you, Ataturk is a horrible airport...I do agree with you, Ataturk is a horrible airport but it's geographical location does give it a clear advantage over Sabiha, especially with business passengers who are generally higher yielding. <br />Even though Air Serbia might be flying full out of SAW, it doesn't necessarily mean they are making money there. I am sure they have good reasons for insisting to return to the European side of the city. <br />If they keep on expanding at this rate, I could eventually see Air Serbia expand into SAW. Especially as IST keeps on being more and more congested.<br />Istanbul and Sabiha could be the same as Heathrow and Gatwick. The former is crowded and expensive but it still attracts airlines to fly there because of prestige and geographical location (though Sabiha is much further away from downtown than Gatwick is). <br />Nemjeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09529227010459770718noreply@blogger.com