tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post375907246037004613..comments2024-03-29T02:11:52.308+01:00Comments on EX-YU Aviation News: Croatia Airlines to avoid “predators”EX-YU Aviationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13952283005857074627noreply@blogger.comBlogger62125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-48759075881664698512014-04-17T13:46:03.887+02:002014-04-17T13:46:03.887+02:00current fleet is all owned by the OU, in the past ...current fleet is all owned by the OU, in the past 2-3 A320s were leased from Lufthansa and other lessors on long term lease, which was cheaper option than outright purchase of a brand new aircraft, remaining 6 A319/320 are owned by OU and will remain in service till 2020 at least. <br />]<br />4 Brand new A319 Neos are joining the fleet in 2017 and these will only supplement current fleet of 6 A319/320 till they are retired around 2020/2023 and repalced by either CA100/CS300 mix of new A319s, we'll see closer to that date. OU might still lease out up to 4 aircraft to cover 2015/16 summer seasons, with 6 month wet lease, potentially 2-3 E195s might be joining the fleet than, but we'll see. <br /><br />A long term plan is to keep 6 A319s that suppose to retire in early 2020s and use them on add hock basis as charters in summer season, the type is in very good condition, overhauling them and performing D-check on all 6 aircraft won't be cheap, but cheaper than buying brand new aircraft of wet leasing 6 aircraft from a 3rd party. <br /><br />So fleet beyond 2020 might look like this :<br /><br />8 A319 (4x 20+ year old used for charters in summer season)<br />2 A320 - (used for cheater as well)<br />8 CS100/300 mix <br />6 Dash 8 400Q <br /><br />For total fleet of 24 aircraft with 6 used for charter in summer season only. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-66216813360708240752014-04-16T23:26:49.004+02:002014-04-16T23:26:49.004+02:00For all those people who are working for OU I sure...For all those people who are working for OU I surely hope that he will be fired!!! He deserves it! Anonymushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11943704939260951048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-6192402165294718962014-04-16T20:40:49.145+02:002014-04-16T20:40:49.145+02:00The Croatian people call him Mr. Kucka. I thought ...The Croatian people call him Mr. Kucka. I thought he was fired or they are in the process in doing so thats is what is going around Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-68931666197831683972014-04-16T19:39:37.829+02:002014-04-16T19:39:37.829+02:00Oh thank you for the clarification. I was under th...Oh thank you for the clarification. I was under the impression that all of OU airbuses were owned by them. aleksandarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12904977131473241975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-12893746394850902622014-04-16T19:00:18.877+02:002014-04-16T19:00:18.877+02:00But the Croatian people call him Mr. Kucka so h...But the Croatian people call him Mr. Kucka so he is the Ceo. Thanks for the update I thought they had fired him or in the process to do soAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-35130786999102199992014-04-16T15:19:21.440+02:002014-04-16T15:19:21.440+02:00It's actually Kucko, the CEO of Croatia Airlin...It's actually Kucko, the CEO of Croatia Airlines, the man who's doing everything possible in order to ruin it!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-2135392633678667182014-04-16T15:01:28.242+02:002014-04-16T15:01:28.242+02:00Just one question who is this Mr. Kucka that ever...Just one question who is this Mr. Kucka that everybody is talking aboutAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-87030067393577548012014-04-16T10:05:35.743+02:002014-04-16T10:05:35.743+02:00You should know that A320 was sending back to leas...You should know that A320 was sending back to leasor, it was not CTN one.Purgernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-83858835962961146252014-04-16T09:14:20.521+02:002014-04-16T09:14:20.521+02:00Bravo Purgeru, stvarno mi je nejasno kako je Croat...Bravo Purgeru, stvarno mi je nejasno kako je Croatia Airlines propustila sve moguće prilike, i Hrvatska kao turistička država s izvrsnim potencijalom... Što se tiče popunjenosti na domaćim letovima, ja sam iz Dubrovnika i mogu reći da su letovi DBV-ZAG i zimi i ljeti uglavnom puni do posljednjeg mjesta, unatoč visokoj cijeni karte! Nadam se da ovo nije kraj za OU!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-72941781661631840452014-04-16T08:44:12.126+02:002014-04-16T08:44:12.126+02:00Full life market value of JT8D engine for MD-82 is...Full life market value of JT8D engine for MD-82 is $1.000.000. Full life market value of CF6-801 for A320 is $15.000.000. This is probably why OU scrapped that A320. They didn't have money to do an overhaul even though the plane still had life in it. They needed some cash it seems like. aleksandarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12904977131473241975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-71025839251563253332014-04-16T04:06:29.744+02:002014-04-16T04:06:29.744+02:00+1 to Purger
Although it would be bad for Air Ser...+1 to Purger<br /><br />Although it would be bad for Air Serbia if Croatia Airlines got purchased by Qatar, it would really be entertaining for those watching to see what would happen and how the strategies would compare. <br />aleksandarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12904977131473241975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-58753496363869441092014-04-16T03:40:12.586+02:002014-04-16T03:40:12.586+02:00Purger, I also agree that older A320 is by far the...Purger, I also agree that older A320 is by far the best. The only problem that I encountered is financing. I read in Airline Finance Journal that the oldest examples of A320 still run at around $100.000 to lease or around $5.000.000 to buy. On the other hand, the newest MD80 is about $30.000 to lease and $2.000.000 to buy. This is a huge difference. In the long term, it would be cheaper to have A320s because of fleet commonality and efficiency, but I doubt that OU could get financing for a purchase or even get a lease for a few A320s. <br /><br />Nemjee, the problem with MD-90 is that it has had it's price driven up by Delta since they operate almost all examples in service. The only reason why I think the MD-80 has the best chance of success is because it is the cheapest way to increase capacity. "Croatia Holidays" would need capacity more than it needs efficiency since the planes would be parked for most of the year. aleksandarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12904977131473241975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-76925409492578049272014-04-16T03:18:26.546+02:002014-04-16T03:18:26.546+02:00I am not saying I agree with the proposal to use t...I am not saying I agree with the proposal to use the MD-80 but wouldn't MD-90 be the better alternative? It's more or less the equivalent of a B737 (in terms of efficiency). Unfortunately they are not easy to find on the market as Delta seems to be snatching all of them.Nemjeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09529227010459770718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-26788885954071448062014-04-16T03:08:36.325+02:002014-04-16T03:08:36.325+02:00That is not true. Crews have no right for summer v...That is not true. Crews have no right for summer vacations in Croatia Airlines at all. They can combine something with their off days like put families in Adriatic, and on off days to be with them 3-4 days and then to fly again (if they plan well they can start flying days from SPU or DBV), but not eve one weeks holidays for crew.Purgernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-30533650811035505112014-04-16T03:00:50.186+02:002014-04-16T03:00:50.186+02:00Idea is great, but not with MD80, but older A320. ...Idea is great, but not with MD80, but older A320. HSPP (pilot syndicate) tray to explain to Croatia Airlines management not to downsize fleet with one A320 but to put this plane as charter one in subsidiary, something as Croatian Holiday.<br /><br />MD80 is not good option. For many reason. But to do:<br /><br />- A320 from CTN fleet + two old A320 to lease for subsidiary Croatian Holiday (based in SPU and DBV)<br />- Fleet of A319 (including 4 on order) without A320 (which are in Croatian Holiday) + Embraer 190 + Q400 as Croatia Airlines<br />- Fleet of 3-4 Embraer 120 or similar plane in subsidiary Croatian Regional for routes LSZ-PUY-ZAG, BWK-ZAD-ZAG, OMO-ZAG, OHR-TIV-ZAG + OSI-RJK-SPU-RJK-OSI-DBV<br />- Fleet of 1-2 small cargo planes in subsidiary Croatian cargo as now foreigners are doing cargo routes from ZAG<br />Purgernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-40599528833106246172014-04-16T02:48:53.209+02:002014-04-16T02:48:53.209+02:00That is not true:
- ZAG-DBV
now: 21 flights in win...That is not true:<br />- ZAG-DBV<br />now: 21 flights in winter, 33 in summer per week<br />real: 30 flights in winter, 40 in summer per week (LF is more than 90% even in winter, with usual price of 160 EUR per return flight), 90% with A319<br /><br />- ZAG-SPU<br />now: 19 flights in winter, 30 in summer per week<br />real: 28 flights in winter, 35 in summer per week, 50% with Q400<br /><br />- ZAG-ZAD-PUY<br />Now: 7 flights in winter, 12 in summer per week<br />Real: not ZAG-ZAD-PUY, but ZAG-ZAD-BWK, and ZAG-PUY-LSZ, 12 in winter, 14 in summer for both routes, all with turboprops<br /><br />- OSI-RJK-DBV-SPU<br />Now: 1 in summer<br />Real: OSI-RJK-SPU-RJK-OSI-DBV-PUY/ZAD-DBV-OSI-RJK-SPU-RJK-OSI, 10 per week in winter and 12 per week in summer for OSI-RJK-SPU-RJK-OSI; 3 per week in winter and 5 per week in summer for RJK-OSI-DBV-OSI-RJK; 2 per week OSI-DBV-PUY and 2 per week OSI-DBV-ZAD and non in winter<br /><br />- OSI-ZAG<br />Now: 3 per week in winter, 5 in summer<br />Real: this route is not real even with PSO<br /><br />Lufthansa as flag carrier in ZAG? Why? First of all they try to change most of their P2P routes to Germanwings because it is not profitable, and why should Croatian Airlines, of Croatian Government do that?Purgernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-13474955905929746072014-04-16T02:27:25.913+02:002014-04-16T02:27:25.913+02:001. Qatar ako krene kupovati ima brdo kandidata koj...1. Qatar ako krene kupovati ima brdo kandidata koji na koljenima mole... tu CTN svakako nije prvi izbor. Ima daleko bolji udavača. I u Europi i u svijetu. Nije baš nevjerovatno, no ipak ima boljih prilika.<br />2. Naši su političari još prije Vučičevog hodočašćenja po Abu Dhabiu, pokušali Qatarcima svašta utrampiti, doslovce je u Dohu otišao A320 sa delegacijom političara, gospodarstvenika, stručnjaka. I jedino što smo dobili je džamija u Rijeci i linija Zagreb-Budimpešta-Doha.<br />3. CTN nije loša opcija. Bio bi to zgodan Balkanski rat Croatia-Qatar (Zagreb) vs. Air Serbia-Etihad (Beograd). No, koga vraga Qataru treba još jedan rat, kao da mu nije dosta onaj na Bliskom Istoku. Prije bi oni odabrali nešto gdje se nemoraju klat a koji se nude poput LOT-a, Finaira, Air Baltic, SAS, TAP-a, Air Europa, Aer Lingus, Virgin, TAROM, Air Malta, Bulgaria Air.<br />4. Velik problem je i Air Serbijina ekspanzija. Da se i kupnja dogovori sa Qatarom isto se ne bi desilo prije 2015. a do tada će Air Serbija već ovladati ovim prostorom. Biti će potreban daleko veći novac da se potom ponovo osvoje linije za SKP, PRN, SJJ, SOF, TIA, TGD, OTP, tj. da se tu nađe mjesto pod suncem uz Air Serbiju (+ Austrian, Adriu, Turkish, Lufthansu, Wizzair, easyJet, Germanwings, Ryanair), pri čemu će Air Serbija imati prednost od skoro dvije godine. I to kad bi se tako što pokrenulo odmah. Što više vremena, to teži posao.<br />5. Kučka i ostatak bratije uopće ne doživljavam kao veliku problem. To se odmah počisti, kao što je bio slučaj i u Jatu. I prije nego novi vlasnik dođe.<br />I sve se svodi na to koliko Qatar kani kupovati po Europi. Mislim da Etihad tu debelo pretjeruje i u želji da Qataru (ili nekom trećem) ne ostavi ništa za kupovinu, sam sebi radi konkurenciju na istom tržištu (Darwin-Air Berlin; Alitalia-Air Serbia). Tu bi idealna priča za Qatar bila 4 kompanije u nekonkurentnim dijelovima Europe + 10-tak na ostalim kontinentima, te njihova sinergija. Europske prednost svakako bi bila LOT (ili SAS, ili Air Baltic, ili Finair), Virgin (ili Aer Lingus), Air Europa (ili TAP), TAROM (ili Bulgarian). E sad, ako nešto od toga neće biti na tržištu (npr. TAROM) bez obzira na najave i ako džep bude dubok, onda bi Croatia mogla profitirati. Nemojmo zanemarit ni Adriju, koja je na tržištu i koja je bitno agilnija, iako lošija prilika, ne bih se iznenadio da naši prespavaju Adrijinu ponudu.Purgernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-31966349735003980532014-04-16T02:03:17.818+02:002014-04-16T02:03:17.818+02:00You think narrow way, Croatia spend huge money to ...You think narrow way, Croatia spend huge money to get those wondefrul motorways, so there is no need for domestic transport, OU should further be used to maximise tourism as a major sector and lead contributor to Croatian economy. If Croatia is already in Lufthansa realm, then let Lufthansa take care of business pasengers to ZAG. Non business, casual travellers should get more low costers who now run away from it. Thats the whole point. Even if most of the OU aircraft is grounded during winter is cheaper than flying 5-6 pax between Zagreb and Osjek or Split.Miroslav Milosevichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10704244064989227094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-78713000820976073242014-04-15T23:10:03.024+02:002014-04-15T23:10:03.024+02:00Eight UPRAVU STE STALNO ME ISPRAVLJA.
A VISE PUTA ...Eight UPRAVU STE STALNO ME ISPRAVLJA.<br />A VISE PUTA SA REKO DAIDEM U SKOLU U AUSTRIJI I DA ZOBOG TOGA PRAVIM GRESKE:Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-43145415105339225562014-04-15T23:09:40.433+02:002014-04-15T23:09:40.433+02:00Is it possible that on the site "www.fluege.d...Is it possible that on the site "www.fluege.de" the ticket to frankfurt from belgrade (return, lufthansa, june) is 40euros cheaper than on the others sites? Or some taxes aren't included in the ticket? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-50677492940284023062014-04-15T23:04:26.142+02:002014-04-15T23:04:26.142+02:00Ima nas dvojica iz Novog Sada. To je bila poenta. ...Ima nas dvojica iz Novog Sada. To je bila poenta. <br /><br />Dajte ljudi mante se negativnosti... Ako pogledamo oko sebe, imam toliko toga lošeg, gde god živeli, HR, SRB, wherever. Ovde smo jer nas spaja ljubav prema vazduhoplovstvu... ajmo fokus na to! Lako ćemo naći elemente koje nas razdvajaju, bolje je da bacimo fokus na nešto drugo. Pozz svima.Eighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12980670700071956031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-8323389535209127382014-04-15T22:10:38.972+02:002014-04-15T22:10:38.972+02:00Erratum for above: I mean Allegiant Airlines.Erratum for above: I mean Allegiant Airlines.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-14566790582764801762014-04-15T22:10:01.425+02:002014-04-15T22:10:01.425+02:00PA STA AKO GRESIM.
POGLEDAJTE PRVO SEBE PA PRICAJT...PA STA AKO GRESIM.<br />POGLEDAJTE PRVO SEBE PA PRICAJTE O DRUGIMA .<br />A MOJI KOMENTARI NISU GLUPI NEGO ISTINITI STO SE TICE LUFTHANSE DOZIVEO SAM DOSTA OD NJIH.<br />CAK UNISTAVAJU I SVOJE CERKE FIRME KAO NPR OS I U VEZI TOGA IMAM DOSTA DOKAZA.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-76522757447326937472014-04-15T21:11:02.962+02:002014-04-15T21:11:02.962+02:00Just check the profitability of Spirit Airlines in...Just check the profitability of Spirit Airlines in USA with a huge M80 fleet on of the most profitable airlines. Yes, the M80 are fuel guzzlers but on the other hand the finance cost is almost zero. This is just FYI. Concerning OU, I think that the airline has huge potentials but with its obedient (politically motivated) role to LH unable to play its cards. It should built a solid network with connections to major cities in Europe ex ZAG year round and during summer bring the tourist crowds to the Adriatic. Cities like DBV have potential even beyond the hot season, since more and more tourists are spending short vacations there for Easter or Xmas. Lease out the fleet during northern winter to South America (like Air Malta does) and hire seasonal staff to be more flexible. Just a few thoughts, but as I heard during the recent OU strikes, the crews of OU have contractual rights for long summer vacation in July/August. Just when they are needed and therefore huge number of staff is hired to compensate and sits idle during the winter months. With such insane policies it's not difficult to ruin an airline.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-82991219447810173402014-04-15T20:34:28.348+02:002014-04-15T20:34:28.348+02:00The fuel costs of MD80s are not that much greater ...The fuel costs of MD80s are not that much greater than A320s etc. Since the planes would have low utilization since they would mostly be used during the summer, the ~20% more fuel burn really won't make such a big difference. Maintenence would be a bit of a problem, but luckily there are so many spare parts, and there are still JT8D engines that can be bought for cheap. <br /><br />MD80s of course are not ideal. The best would be a fleet of new A320 to bring large crowds of tourists to the Croatian coast, but unfortunately I doubt Croatian Airlines could get financing on those right now. <br /><br />The problem with having ZAG as a main hub and using a fleet of Q400s to shuttle passengers to there is that it cannot compete with charter and LCCs that fly direct-non stop to the coast. OU is already expensive. <br /><br />Purger, you tell me what you think of this idea: OU having their current fleet focus on ZAG and also offering domestic flights year round, and OU having a Low Cost leisure brand as well operating mostly during the summer from coastal airports with MD80 in high density configurations and offering low fares and also charters. <br /><br />aleksandarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12904977131473241975noreply@blogger.com