tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post4055951022860789470..comments2024-03-28T11:41:05.998+01:00Comments on EX-YU Aviation News: Korean Air eyes Zagreb flightsEX-YU Aviationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13952283005857074627noreply@blogger.comBlogger86125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-87761516406493456992015-03-19T00:29:47.091+01:002015-03-19T00:29:47.091+01:00"Most intercontinental passengers from Aussie..."Most intercontinental passengers from Aussie and Kiwii lands come via Singapore and Doha, not Dubai, surprisingly enough."<br /><br />Doha, huh? You must something we don't. Qatar does not fly to Sydney and New Zealand; Qantas and Air New Zealand do not fly to Doha at all. Air NZ codeshares with Etihad, Qantas with Emirates. You got it all wrong, smarty pants!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-34855346599159091332015-03-18T22:28:07.503+01:002015-03-18T22:28:07.503+01:00And still no foreign airline wants to launch long ...And still no foreign airline wants to launch long hawl flights to Belgrade?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-23486875140899839832015-03-18T19:42:22.462+01:002015-03-18T19:42:22.462+01:00that was the old schedulethat was the old scheduleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-1565060171771137152015-03-18T15:45:02.301+01:002015-03-18T15:45:02.301+01:00Just to add, someone here mentioned Emirates and Z...Just to add, someone here mentioned Emirates and Zagreb, sorry but from what I know and have been in toich with Zagreb's new management as my firm did some architectural work for them on this and other projects in the past, i can tell you they had no talks with Emirates, from ME region only FlyDubia and Qatar have so far showed interest for Zagreb. FlyDubia did come as a surprise for all concerned for they were never in talks early on. Emirates however did talk to the old management and flights would have been in conjunction with Vienna or Amsterdam flights. But on both occasions OU objected and nothing happened. <br /><br />Emirates won't fly to Zagreb only, they'll need Zagreb as a feed in and with arrival or KLM, Brussels air and Vienna being covered by Austrian, i can't see them coming to Zagreb any time soon. Prague might be an alternative for Czech Airlines plan to come to Zagreb later this year so i really don't see Emirates coming to Zagreb any time soon. <br /><br />Perhaps in 2017 but only as a feed in on Budapest flights perhaps, like Qatar did originally. <br /><br />Most intercontinental passengers from Aussie and Kiwii lands come via Singapore and Doha, not Dubai, surprisingly enough. <br /><br />Lufthansa, British Air and Air France being responsible for 85%, Qatar is changing this by a bit, but not much, Air France, BA and Lufthansa with double daily make things very difficult for others, plus their own hubs in Frankfurt, Paris/Amsterdam, London literally make things impossible for other carriers. <br /><br />FlyDubai is barely making any dent, well they just started flights to Zagreb so its early days, but with 3 weekly flights to Zagreb they'll hardly make a massive impact on the big 3, after all most tourist that come to Croatia from Australia, NZ come with these 3 carriers who are truly global carriers with direct links to Australia via Singapore or direct flights. <br /><br /><br /><br /> <br /><br /> <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-88818169026743793642015-03-18T14:20:57.016+01:002015-03-18T14:20:57.016+01:00HM, they should be handing these on planes they...HM, they should be handing these on planes they're doing it at the border crossings. <br /><br /><br />The only other way they can control and know how many visitors they've had is through travel agencies bookings, but if that were the only way, than Croatia had a lot more tourists, for agencies represent about 50-55% of all arrivals ,example of Spain, France, Italy you can draw the conclusions. <br /><br />13.7 million last year if we include examples of people who visit for a day or two or already have arranged their own stay/accommodation is significant in Croatia as you know many along the coast rent their homes/rooms to make extra income in summer months. <br /><br />I guess 13.7 million does not include unreported visitors, which means above numbers is a bare minimum number of visitors to Croatia in 2014, number might be higher by at least 20-25%<br /><br /><br /><br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-77497901858421925652015-03-18T12:32:19.236+01:002015-03-18T12:32:19.236+01:00Hmm don't be so sure about it. Last summer i, ...Hmm don't be so sure about it. Last summer i, August I passed Croatian border total of 6 times (twice at ZAG and 4 times by car in Dubrovnik area). Nobady gave me no card to fill in, nothing to submit. My family owns a property in Dubrovnik area so we all go there throughout the year both with Canadian passports and with BiH personal ID. Everything you are saying about this card is news to me my friend.SMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17992198326118720912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-78187337719920088992015-03-18T08:56:37.574+01:002015-03-18T08:56:37.574+01:00They reported it yesterday
http://exyuaviation.blo...They reported it yesterday<br />http://exyuaviation.blogspot.com/p/skygreece-schedules-toronto-zagreb.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-6431060425854604002015-03-18T08:31:36.257+01:002015-03-18T08:31:36.257+01:00OT: YYZ-ZAG-ATH is loaded in the GDS:
GW425 ATH102...OT: YYZ-ZAG-ATH is loaded in the GDS:<br />GW425 ATH1020 – 1110ZAG1210 – 1555YYZ 763 3<br />GW426 YYZ2355 – 1525+1ZAG1645+1 – 1915+1ATH 763 2<br /><br />http://airlineroute.net/2015/03/18/gw-s15update1/<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-11355877978648602482015-03-18T08:27:12.378+01:002015-03-18T08:27:12.378+01:00just my 2 cts: a EK triangle route could be viable...just my 2 cts: a EK triangle route could be viable in summer time, e.g. DXB-BEG-ZAG-DXB 3/7, DXB-ZAG-BEG-DXB 4/7.<br />a triangle route in eastern europe should be no problem for DXB hub operation,<br />same as triangle routes in ex-YU @ BEG hub.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-34559596903432968782015-03-18T07:51:23.496+01:002015-03-18T07:51:23.496+01:00u DBV sam vidio 1-2 letovau DBV sam vidio 1-2 letovaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-18918456640424084802015-03-18T04:51:54.125+01:002015-03-18T04:51:54.125+01:00@SMMarch 18, 2015 at 4:32 AM
When an passenger be...@SMMarch 18, 2015 at 4:32 AM<br /><br />When an passenger be it in a car, plane, train or other arrives to Croatia for the first time they're asked to fill in the form, this form is handed on planes, border checks and on trains as travelers are checked for their passports, they hand over the forms at the passport control. All Croatian visa holders need to fill this form by law or the'll be denied entry in to Croatia, for EU and visa waver program countries it is voluntary but it is encouraged to fill the form. <br /><br />Anyone who says they're visiting the country for holiday will be added to register or tourist visitors, ex-pats aren't included for obvious reasons, for they're visiting their families and homes. <br /><br />This is how HTZ and Croatian Tourism officials know who is entering the country and for what purpose, btw documents are official and issued by MUP, ministarstvo unutarnjih poslova. <br /><br />Sadly forms are only issues on western borders at this point for this is where most tourist are coming from and on all flights in to Croatia. Croatian passport holders aren't asked to fill these forms. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-41177760646606409942015-03-18T04:41:29.328+01:002015-03-18T04:41:29.328+01:00@SMMarch 17, 2015 at 4:33 PM
Just logged on to my...@SMMarch 17, 2015 at 4:33 PM<br /><br />Just logged on to my computer, I am in Canada btw. Yes Air Canada won't happen over night, it might take few years, certainly nothing before 2017 summer season. <br /><br />However in regards to new airport owners, I'd rather have new owners who know what to do, than company going down the drain cause of old fashioned approach to business.<br /><br />Old management of Zagreb airport was politically appointed, very inept and incompetent, majority should have been fired for they're incapable individuals with party affiliations. <br /><br />Sure it smacks of neo-colonialism of sort, but bare in mind Zagreb airport is 100% owned by their owners, City of Zagreb, Croatian State and Velika Gorica Commune. Current management of the airport is just that, a management that bought a 30 year contract to run the airport and try to make money out of it whilst they're doing it. The buck stops with the government and the city who are the real owners, so in a way what the State did was allow a private firm to rent out one of the state assets for certain period of time, with explicit agreement they'll pay certain amount of money to the state. <br /><br />The management is under pressure right now to make a profit and they can't make a profit on low passenger numbers, they need minimum 4.0 million pax to brake even (334 million euro investment over 30 years, add interest payments and pays) and management is under pressure to finish new terminal as humanly fast this is possible and bring in the numbers. They need in short term 4.0 million pax to brake even, they only start to make real money after they pass 5.0 million mark, so there is a pressure to achieve that number as fast this is possible. <br /><br />So in a way bit of colonization as you put it ain't bad, in fact in this case it is warranted if it drives the growth and opens up the competition. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-28546785251787528662015-03-18T04:32:29.787+01:002015-03-18T04:32:29.787+01:00Vaske,
Couple of 20 something guys I know went to...Vaske,<br /><br />Couple of 20 something guys I know went to Croatia last year (these are Canadians I'm talking about). So, people are going from here for sure but again this is more afluent more educated crows, not your average Joe for sure. Average Canadian is first of all not likely to take vacation and even if he does he is probably going to Vegas and maybe, just maybe Caribbean all inclusive.<br /><br />Your point with counting is very interesting. Question was posed here several times and nobady was ever able to answer it. And is how do tourist organizations in Balkans come up with these numbers. Are theyresult of statistical sampling or it's based on some actual counting. I fly there with a Canadian passport (have both Bosnian and Serbian citizenship but no passports). So, if they are counting people do they consider me as a "Canadian tourist". I sure as hell am not the one and there is tons of cases like that in both Serbia and Croatia. SMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17992198326118720912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-19934118114634988502015-03-18T04:19:46.270+01:002015-03-18T04:19:46.270+01:00Aleksandar,
AirTransat is very decent in my opini...Aleksandar,<br /><br />AirTransat is very decent in my opinion. Decent network, recently renovated interiors, smartphone/tablet based IFE. I think they were voted #1 leisure airline several times.SMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17992198326118720912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-22074016662152368122015-03-18T02:46:59.375+01:002015-03-18T02:46:59.375+01:00They may fly one-way as well.They may fly one-way as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-14435259128927266222015-03-18T02:40:52.571+01:002015-03-18T02:40:52.571+01:00Yes, we heard it already! Hopefully next godforsak...Yes, we heard it already! Hopefully next godforsaken EU-village Adria will fly to is Monchengladbach so they might give B&H some competition there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-63781776009394346472015-03-18T01:20:32.453+01:002015-03-18T01:20:32.453+01:00OT: Officially, Adria will start fly from Maribor ...OT: Officially, Adria will start fly from Maribor on three new destinations. One of them will be London, others are still unknown.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-38416320519503009102015-03-18T00:08:13.702+01:002015-03-18T00:08:13.702+01:00JAL nije latio u 2014. Imali su malo krize u Jal-u...JAL nije latio u 2014. Imali su malo krize u Jal-u.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-91828615551373476422015-03-18T00:04:24.955+01:002015-03-18T00:04:24.955+01:00Hainan, followed by United, followed by Emirates, ...Hainan, followed by United, followed by Emirates, followed by Air CanadaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-44459666594906437322015-03-17T23:57:57.340+01:002015-03-17T23:57:57.340+01:00Like BEG in Serbia, PRG is practically the only ai...Like BEG in Serbia, PRG is practically the only airport in Czech R. (there are couple more but their numbers are truly irrelevant). Within that maths, Croatia with 7 million and Czech R. with 11 is not that big difference. Most of the passengers for both cities, If you add to that double-digit growth of tourists from the Australasia to Croatia year by year, it's nothing strange that QR has very good results, that KE is considering transferring charter to scheduled, and that EK will not remain out of the game. Zivi bili pa videli! Cheers! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-37370570056261079252015-03-17T23:42:53.047+01:002015-03-17T23:42:53.047+01:00Prague has 11 mil passengers annually, you are rea...Prague has 11 mil passengers annually, you are really comparing it with zagreb? And you are saying they are talking for more than 2 years? Lot of talking, and no result.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-63719734998440527382015-03-17T23:29:42.851+01:002015-03-17T23:29:42.851+01:00^ there were never talks with EK, dont make up stu...^ there were never talks with EK, dont make up stuff. Also Toronto flights did no start yet, and also those flights are just during summer. QR is doing OK in Zagreb, but dont be like INN-NS and say "all routes to and from ZAG are doing great and Qatar is doing eceptional'.Kurirnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-67641718286516753752015-03-17T23:23:57.592+01:002015-03-17T23:23:57.592+01:00@7:35
'QR has difficulties in ZAG and struggli...@7:35<br />'QR has difficulties in ZAG and struggling with LF', ??? Hahahaha, you are probably the one who wrote here some time ago that QR would discontinue ZAG just months after beginning of operations, as ZAG has no potential and blablabla. And now when ZAG has 5 instead 3,5 flights (half of former joint ZAG/BUD capacity), and new routes from Korea and China are expected, and Toronto started, and probably some US destination to start soon, you still come out with false information about bad LF and problems of QR in ZAG. Well, sorry to disappoint you, but there are no such problems at all, and yes, EK was in talks with former ZAG management, and is in talks with the new one, and EK and FZ have different markets and there are space for both in ZAG, the same as in, for example PRG, which has both FZ and EK. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-52864373393806971732015-03-17T23:03:34.192+01:002015-03-17T23:03:34.192+01:00not confirmed yet, but ZAG might get NYC, CHI and ...not confirmed yet, but ZAG might get NYC, CHI and PVG this year as well, negotiations going onAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-54965962626769378482015-03-17T23:00:57.430+01:002015-03-17T23:00:57.430+01:00OT: two days ago BEG airport director on this blog...OT: two days ago BEG airport director on this blog was quoted saying they would overhaul the runway in 2016 AND 2017. Why would you need to span 2 calendar years for that, it's not likely work will start in Dec and end in Jan? They can't work in winter weather, and even without runway closure they don't need to work in both years, so what was that statement for?!?<br /><br />Today in Kurir he said work would be self financed without other loans, with about 2BRSD (15-16MEUR) available. One thing you do when you have certain growth - you get a loan to grow even faster so you can collect more revenue faster! Not getting a loan means overhaul and expansion will be at a very slow pace (as 15MEUR won't be enough to overhaul A gates and buy new airbridges let alone other expansion), limiting passenger growth and limiting Air Serbia!<br /><br />Last year one of the (lady) ministers said they were caught by surprise by huge growth at the airport so they need to plan expansion. But in fact they didn't expand a thing since last summer and obviously won't be able to finish any useful expansion before 2015 summer peak! What excuse do you have now? If Air Serbia was congested and constrained last summer at BEG, you can only imagine chaos this summer with at least few hundred thousand more passengers during Jul and Aug! <br /><br />As if Govt and Airport management are actively trying to make things worse for Air Serbia and not the other way around! They need new prof mgmt to stop talking nonsense and start delivering results!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com