tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post4086287410509052604..comments2024-03-29T10:52:33.136+01:00Comments on EX-YU Aviation News: Air Serbia approaching launch dateEX-YU Aviationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13952283005857074627noreply@blogger.comBlogger64125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-29813827086139012812013-09-01T19:24:45.232+02:002013-09-01T19:24:45.232+02:00Oh I barely notice your trollfest you organize wit...Oh I barely notice your trollfest you organize with yourself. I agree I misspoke but calling me an idiot every time I comment on something... How pathetic is that? You make me rally sad...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07856153364202315397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-50611242767618477582013-09-01T16:08:08.448+02:002013-09-01T16:08:08.448+02:00@#AnonymousAugust 31, 2013 at 3:16 PM
u're a ...@#AnonymousAugust 31, 2013 at 3:16 PM<br /><br />u're a nationalist cunt, background colour of Atlantska Plovidba reflects colours of Dubrovnik, you stupid nationalist idiot!, red and blue, you should check Croatian flags and symbols before you start your nationalistic quest, you love to stir hatred don;t you, bit of daily trolling is what you live off.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-43689838099291050402013-09-01T01:38:49.688+02:002013-09-01T01:38:49.688+02:00Darko Marjanovic...such an idiot.Darko Marjanovic...such an idiot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-46085900958336060222013-09-01T01:20:46.987+02:002013-09-01T01:20:46.987+02:00@Anonymous at 10.17 pm
Jat never had more than 3 f...@Anonymous at 10.17 pm<br />Jat never had more than 3 flights per day during winter season to TGD and TIV, contrary to the summer, now they propose 2 during upcoming season, not abig deal anyway...<br />What somebody like you cannot cope with is that Etihad appointed management in Air Serbia is not interested in Croatian market at the moment at all, no matter how important you think you are. What ZAD, RJK, ZAG etc. are you exactly talking about? They are not airlinked to BEG for 20 or so years, and neither there is an interest to be so for the time being. So relax and leave Air Serbia route planning to airline professionals for the first time after a decades of incompetent pollitically appointed Jat so called managers, something your home carrier is yet to achieve.<br />We can discuss Air Serbia's new network results this time next year, providing you can hold it that longAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-68129585384943749702013-09-01T00:43:29.929+02:002013-09-01T00:43:29.929+02:00+1+1Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-87557414506106898352013-09-01T00:37:04.600+02:002013-09-01T00:37:04.600+02:00It´s true that the traffic on the sea cost is seas...It´s true that the traffic on the sea cost is season´s sensitive, but to far far less than some 20 years ago in Yugoslavia. Menawhile you can many tourists in Split, Dubrovnik or Kotor even in the reiny winter months - mostly exactly those tourists who are ready to pay for expensive hotel and flights, or just use those cities as ports for their nautical facilities. There is also a very strong domestic demand from Dubrovnik, still it is the only important Croatian town without a highway. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-46851703629736218052013-09-01T00:31:23.224+02:002013-09-01T00:31:23.224+02:00"hub", doesn´t equal the "base"..."hub", doesn´t equal the "base".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-7592714843286444942013-09-01T00:16:40.242+02:002013-09-01T00:16:40.242+02:00In my opinion, opening an operational base in Croa...In my opinion, opening an operational base in Croatia would not be a good idea, for any foreign company, apart from Zagreb there is not a single Croatian city that would be well suited for its hub. <br /><br />The vast number of passengers does exist but, apart from Zagreb focused traffic, traffic towards the coastal cities is highly seasonal, one has to combat the charters for yield – which is disastrous, O&D to cities along the coast is rather limited (population: Split 178k, Rijeka 130k, Dubrovnik 45k). It seems more prudent to set up a base away from the coast and adjust the capacity in accordance with the demand. <br /><br />If YM fails, an airline can just add more flights to Podgorica and (in high season) to Tivat and make more money on those routes. Why risk opening a base there?<br /><br />One can imagine local airlines based in Skopje and Sarajevo or even a JU base in really distant future, but realistically speaking, “new Jat” needs to clear their own house prior to poaching around. With proper connections and decent prices, they can offer numerous convenient connections for passengers without investing so much money into operational bases there, with limited route structure from those new bases and simultaneously weakening the developing hub in Belgrade. Belgrade can easily become a hub od some sort as it really is at the heart of Europe, three hours from Lisbon, London, Moscow, Cairo… its central location is well suited for many connections, if the connection system is done properly.<br /><br />I really hope OU, YM and JP are all going to survive, because, as passengers, we are in desperate need of competition.Eighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12980670700071956031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-55661986852840724352013-08-31T23:26:59.547+02:002013-08-31T23:26:59.547+02:00You can manage to google it by yourself I suppose....You can manage to google it by yourself I suppose.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-25924475843746618852013-08-31T23:22:08.724+02:002013-08-31T23:22:08.724+02:00Note from this site:
For some reason,we have delet...Note from this site:<br />For some reason,we have deleted this wallpaper.We are so sorry.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-74254538752769000712013-08-31T23:09:29.232+02:002013-08-31T23:09:29.232+02:00I suppose they will try to make YM a Belgrade feed...I suppose they will try to make YM a Belgrade feeder. Thay didn´t have codeshares with YM but thay did had agreed on the unique price for Tivat and Podgorica routs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-25273241604049722732013-08-31T23:06:37.596+02:002013-08-31T23:06:37.596+02:00Serbian medieval
http://www.wallpaperhi.com/thumb...Serbian medieval<br /><br />http://www.wallpaperhi.com/thumbnails/detail/20111227/nemanjici-orao.jpgAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-88036846813569432482013-08-31T23:04:31.318+02:002013-08-31T23:04:31.318+02:00?? take a better look..?? take a better look..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-88110310459789964762013-08-31T23:02:47.743+02:002013-08-31T23:02:47.743+02:00there are no 22+h flifhts without a stopthere are no 22+h flifhts without a stopAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-82287666041433036062013-08-31T22:42:03.669+02:002013-08-31T22:42:03.669+02:00It was red-white and blue, tipical croatian seal. ...It was red-white and blue, tipical croatian seal. My good! Not an Serbian one. So that is why we are surprised you choose red-white-blue!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-35116219398726882572013-08-31T22:36:39.721+02:002013-08-31T22:36:39.721+02:00That partnership was started long time ago... And ...That partnership was started long time ago... And I think it is perfect... 22+h flight without a stop is hard for me as a young person led alone for someone who is 50 or 60...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07856153364202315397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-87943189262982829852013-08-31T22:18:13.959+02:002013-08-31T22:18:13.959+02:00I know that a few Australians will be excited abou...I know that a few Australians will be excited about this new partnership with Etihad and Air Serbia. Now we have the option of a 22 hour 1 stop flight rather than the 31+ hour 2-3 stop flight to the Balkans. All this at a reasonable rate. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-40080710690491271292013-08-31T22:17:13.693+02:002013-08-31T22:17:13.693+02:00Jatovanje again.
10 lines from 27th October becom...Jatovanje again.<br /><br />10 lines from 27th October become 5 lines from December. And huge reduction in TGD and TIV routes. Why? Those flights were "the best of the best" for Jat! So, if they can not make 3 or 4 frequencies from TGD and TIV how will they make BEG transit hub where they need at least 2 flights per day from SJJ, SKP, LJU, BNX, ZAD, RJK, PUY, ZAD, SPU, DBV, OHR, ZAG... to make BEG real hub.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-29677714518537138612013-08-31T21:41:52.531+02:002013-08-31T21:41:52.531+02:00°°
The most valuable passangers are those who wi...°° <br /><br />The most valuable passangers are those who will fly an airliner even if it´s not the cheapest one. And brand "Air Serbia" will defenitely never reach those passangers in the region.<br /><br />Not to speak about passangers flying on business. Under the common nationalistic social preassure in Croatia, I cannot imagine any public office or bigger company buying the tickets of Air Serbia. The media and their customers would start making a scandal and boykoting those companies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-55603500788962096492013-08-31T21:38:15.836+02:002013-08-31T21:38:15.836+02:00Honestly, I doubt that companies in the region may...Honestly, I doubt that companies in the region may achieve, more than 10-20 euros price differences when offereing a flight from Dubrovnik via Belgrade or Zagreb. Now, try to imagine you are in Dubrovnik, and you want to fly to Berlin. And there, you just see: with choosing Belgrade you would have to change your acustomed behaviour (flying via Zagreb), you could save up 10 euros, but you have to fly more km to the same destination, and, depanding on peer group you belong to, maybe you would be glad to try out new airliner, but it is far more possible that you don´t want justify your decision to take something that has "Serbia" in name. Sure you are right, there are some passangers that will choose "Air Serbia", but far more less than if it would have some neutral name or even a base in Dubrovnik.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-29692644339353288612013-08-31T21:32:23.446+02:002013-08-31T21:32:23.446+02:00People may be different, but a goal of an airliner...People may be different, but a goal of an airliner is to put them ALL on the flights that airline is offering. Every customer who chooses another company´s product is a problem for a serious enterpriser.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-19161050418840987962013-08-31T21:01:26.393+02:002013-08-31T21:01:26.393+02:00Many reasons. Sarajevo and Skoplje are now two big...Many reasons. Sarajevo and Skoplje are now two big city airports without a propper domestic airliner which would be based in those cities. So, it´s an easy game for Austrian, Adria, JAT just to fly once or two time a day and collect passangers. It´s not underestimatable scenario, however that some decent company will make a base out of Skoplje or Sarajevo, in which case JAT, Austrian and so on could not compete equily. Opening a base in Sarajevo or Skoplje is nost a must, it is a historical chance. <br /><br />Some easy economy: flight SJJ-BEG-FRA is made out of two flights, which brings dubble costs, dubble taxes per each passanger than for a direct flight SJJ-FRA.<br /><br />Some psychology: if a company put up a base in Sarajevo or Skopllje, with a propper marketing, people would start to concider that company as theri own. This will, however, ofcourse never happen with "Air Serbia" name, but that´s the obvious reason why branding was done bad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-74683826304766877632013-08-31T20:35:15.602+02:002013-08-31T20:35:15.602+02:00Why would Air Serbia open Sarajevo/Skoplje bases w...Why would Air Serbia open Sarajevo/Skoplje bases when they can just bring those passangers to Belgrade and fly them out to their destinations from there? It doesn't make sense to deploy so much capital for such low yielding markets.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-71637373867138396082013-08-31T20:30:57.088+02:002013-08-31T20:30:57.088+02:00Croatia is extremly difficult market, since there ...Croatia is extremly difficult market, since there will be probably many social judgments over Croatian people who want to fly with "Air Serbia". Even today, 20 years after the independence war in Croatia the worst thing that can happen to one is that the neighbourhood or the employer start doubting that he is a good Croat or in worst case get an idea that someone could be a Serb. The only way to suppress OU would be to open bases in Croatia, a kind of busniess that could rely on international passangers going to holliday (they are traditionally trying to avoid transfers).<br /><br />But Croatia is really a difficult case for Serbian companies, regardless of their name. A pitty, however, that we cann´t expect a base in Skoplje or Sarajevo, where a domicilized company with good service would be very appriciated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-48396071543043227842013-08-31T20:20:35.611+02:002013-08-31T20:20:35.611+02:00"Price is an important factor, but choosing o..."Price is an important factor, but choosing one or another airliner is always a cultural decision based on many other parametters. It can for instance be cheaper to fly from Belgrade to Los Angeles via Moscow with Aeroflot. Maybe they even offer a better service. But it´s a kind of cultural nonsense to fly to LA via Moscow. So as long as I can find some other, "standard" option for 50 Euros more, I will use it."<br />---------<br />You will, somebody else wouldn't, does that prove anything? People are different.<br />While I agree people choose an airline having in mind different criteria important to them, price is one of the most important ones.<br />I do not agree it is "cultural nonsense" to fly, for example from Belgrade to Los Angeles via Moscow with Aeroflot.<br />For a good price (and 50 eur less, as you pointed out) flying with an airline with good service and safety record is something many people would give it a go. Plus you can take a few hour stopover and visit another country/city at the same time, if interested.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com