tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post5065611178374786783..comments2024-03-28T21:42:14.831+01:00Comments on EX-YU Aviation News: Airbus and Jat – round 2EX-YU Aviationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13952283005857074627noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-5960431605995371362009-06-17T14:53:08.315+02:002009-06-17T14:53:08.315+02:00@ Anonymous
Both the Boeing -600 and the A318 hav...@ Anonymous<br /><br />Both the Boeing -600 and the A318 have sold poorly. Why? They're competing against:<br />1) similar-sized aircraft (CRJs/E-Jets) which are cheaper to buy<br />2) similar-sized aircraft which often have lower landing fees as they are incorrectly (and unfairly) classified alongside their respected larger siblings - the difference between a -600/-900 or a 318/321 is just staggering...<br /><br />Both aircraft are still in production (albeit low) BUT there is a market out there for them. Pilot commonality is a huge selling feature for both. <br /><br />Your reference of LAN shows your knowledge of that airline's strategy and of S.American aviation generally is minimal. For an airline who has effectively built up from a base of patheticness in a region where service was extremely poor and accessibility was atrocious (both $$ and airports/routes served), the small fuel-efficient 318 was successful for them, and now they've simply outgrown them. The parallels that could be drawn between S.Am and exYU are enormous when you look at route structure, fares, development, airline politics etc.<br /><br />Much has been made on this forum of past incompotencies (stagnation, over-ambition, broken promises) by JAT management. Airbus wouldn't be so actively pursuing the airline if something wasn't in the pipeline. Tell us, then, what will be the eventuation of this Airbus deal with JAT!?frequentflyernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-81511074223566103812009-06-17T09:29:18.084+02:002009-06-17T09:29:18.084+02:00This comment has been removed by the author.zxchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10990685874999090241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-29491849863051320132009-06-17T02:01:38.094+02:002009-06-17T02:01:38.094+02:00@Anonymous: The source for this news story is &quo...@Anonymous: The source for this news story is "Politika" (from June 15, 2009)EX-YU Aviationhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13952283005857074627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-84820008752510944372009-06-16T22:42:27.539+02:002009-06-16T22:42:27.539+02:00^
"Airbus A318 a success" HAHAHAHAHA!
...^<br />"Airbus A318 a success" HAHAHAHAHA! <br /><br />Please.<br /><br />The A318 has been a disaster, fortunately it didn't cost Airbus that much to develop. The secondhand market for them is zero, LAN Chile are getting rid of there A318s and some are not even 2 years old! <br /><br />@ex-YU:<br />You're treading on thin ice - I don't know who your sources are, but I'd be careful if I were you!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-49828595827288468762009-06-16T13:30:48.061+02:002009-06-16T13:30:48.061+02:00JAT Tehnika's current strength (servicing Boei...JAT Tehnika's current strength (servicing Boeing 737s) is irrelevant to purchasing new aircraft. To survive (as with any business in the real world), they need to adapt to the conditions which they face. If their home airline changes fleet, they should adapt to what's there to ensure they continue to receive govt funding, and ultimately, work through their hangar doors.<br /><br />What would stop JAT from signing a deal for A318s as their 100-odd seater jets, leaving plenty of room for a deal with Boeing for 737-800s? Sure, they cost a little more than Sukhois, but they are a proven success story in the region (eg TAROM).<br /><br />The timing is adventageous for both JAT and Airbus. Airlines get better deals for new planes in an economic downturn, and Airbus needs orders on its books to keep its staff on. JAT could actually walk away from this with a much better deal on 4 or 5 planes (or possibly more) than both Adria and Croatia have recently gotten on their 319s. <br /><br />The main question is whether Boeing has anything up its sleeve now, and how much it is willing to invest in this partnership that some on this forum believe is so strong between JAT and Boeing. If they do, we only have to wait a few days...<br /><br />And Malev signing 30 Sukhois at Paris is bit of overkill - they'll never need that many unless they have ambition to buy up another neighbouring regional airline, expand enormously into Serbia and Croatia, or intend on selling off their newly-acquired Qs or 737s...frequentflyernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-54557833623077592492009-06-16T12:10:59.333+02:002009-06-16T12:10:59.333+02:00This comment has been removed by the author.zxchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10990685874999090241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-91844316933451429542009-06-16T11:25:51.039+02:002009-06-16T11:25:51.039+02:00@ Bosnian and whoever can comment on this.....
Do...@ Bosnian and whoever can comment on this.....<br /><br />Does Jat holding many spares for Boeing aircraft make a difference since if Jat buys Boeing the they will definitely be 700 or 800 models 737's? Therefore the parts they hold for the current fleet of 737's would be obsolete.<br /><br />Anyway, I can see Jat going Airbus even though I like the 737 it seems the Airbus must just be the better choice of aircraft for the region.Q400https://www.blogger.com/profile/09330385169689869567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-15198378728059378272009-06-16T11:20:32.570+02:002009-06-16T11:20:32.570+02:00This comment has been removed by the author.zxchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10990685874999090241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-12655517457470520442009-06-16T10:46:53.694+02:002009-06-16T10:46:53.694+02:00It wasn’t Jat who ordered the aircraft it was the...It wasn’t Jat who ordered the aircraft it was the then government for political purposes.EX-YU Aviationhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13952283005857074627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-58536488658951389492009-06-16T09:12:41.367+02:002009-06-16T09:12:41.367+02:00This comment has been removed by the author.zxchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10990685874999090241noreply@blogger.com