tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post6250022040130631942..comments2024-03-29T11:23:11.828+01:00Comments on EX-YU Aviation News: EX-YU airport race 2016EX-YU Aviationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13952283005857074627noreply@blogger.comBlogger147125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-52061924320097320272017-01-21T14:22:27.980+01:002017-01-21T14:22:27.980+01:00Nice job everyone!!! Great article Ex-Yu Aviation ...Nice job everyone!!! Great article Ex-Yu Aviation News! Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06042227699160005576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-13847983194383607342017-01-21T03:45:48.786+01:002017-01-21T03:45:48.786+01:00He will say that Zagreb is so 'elite' that...He will say that Zagreb is so 'elite' that 4 star Emirates wasn't good enough for them, so everyone switched to 5 star Qatar and that is why Emirates is terminating the route. They weren't good enough.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-28440298618529782642017-01-20T19:27:41.099+01:002017-01-20T19:27:41.099+01:00Ok, Purger, and if Emirates pulls-out, what are yo...Ok, Purger, and if Emirates pulls-out, what are you gonna say?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-29845877867236713282017-01-20T18:41:06.504+01:002017-01-20T18:41:06.504+01:00Purger, imas li jos jedan primer gde je Emirates k...Purger, imas li jos jedan primer gde je Emirates krenuo leteti za grad za manje od 3 milijuna putnika sa dnevnom frekvencijom? Hvala.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-43946782061073973762017-01-20T16:31:24.638+01:002017-01-20T16:31:24.638+01:00@Alen Šćuric PurgerJanuary 20, 2017 at 1:44 AM
+1...@Alen Šćuric PurgerJanuary 20, 2017 at 1:44 AM<br /><br />+1<br /><br />Just to correct you Alan, 275 000 Chinese visitors in Croatia in 2016. From China alone ~160 000. Data only for first 11 months available, so far 13.85 million foreign. 1.65 million domestic, total 15.5 million. Data for Chinese visitors for 2016 is still estimated as data isn't complete. <br /><br />If we include Hong Kong, Taiwan, than 275-290 000+ Chinese visitors to Croatia, 145000 from mainland China, ~35000 from Hong Kong and 110 000 from Taiwan. <br /><br />I expect 2017 figures will see 20% growth on that figure. <br /><br />More data from ministry in charge of tourism. <br /><br />http://www.mint.hr/UserDocsImages/170111_stat_I_XI.pdfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-27252897093111997472017-01-20T10:26:21.852+01:002017-01-20T10:26:21.852+01:00Znači, Nemjee i kompanija - totalni ste licemjeri....Znači, Nemjee i kompanija - totalni ste licemjeri. Sad bi malo skakali za vrat kada se spominju brojke u RH, a kada vam veliki Vođa ispali ovakve brojke - nikom ništa. I još pokušavate ih potkrijepiti nekakvim filozofijama. Ali, ako vas veseli...frishkihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09797367208594580712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-3765147325035222612017-01-20T10:16:25.482+01:002017-01-20T10:16:25.482+01:00Zivi bili pa videli, za pola godine videcemo ko je...Zivi bili pa videli, za pola godine videcemo ko je bio u pravu a ko nije.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-4744756400992711672017-01-20T09:20:43.250+01:002017-01-20T09:20:43.250+01:00^^
Kao što sam rekao, dosta komšija će se iznenadi...^^<br />Kao što sam rekao, dosta komšija će se iznenaditi kako ipak mogu i Emirates i Turkish i Qatar. <br />I onda će zaboraviti da se nekada i Qatar činio nemogućim, i da se Emirates činio nemogućim i ponovno će krenuti sa "previše je to za ZAG i Hrvatsku" kad za par godina opet krenu nova povećanja za Bliski i Daleki istokAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-57980674636125105752017-01-20T08:51:44.075+01:002017-01-20T08:51:44.075+01:00Ajmo ovako:
1. Emirates nije liniju napravio napa...Ajmo ovako:<br /><br />1. Emirates nije liniju napravio napamet<br /><br />2. Za istu postoje već sada vrlo dobri potencijali 1,01 milijun turista iz tog područja koji već sada dolaze u Hrvatsku, te 0,4 milijuna dijaspore.<br /><br />3. Zagreb nije jedni gdje je Emirates krenuo sa "nevjerojatnim" i vrlo optimističnim letovima i polučio nevjerojatne rezultate, a pritome glavni konkurentni nisu smanjili frekvencije ili ukidali letove (Qatar, Turkish, Aeroflot, Lufthansa...).<br /><br />4. Kod Emiratesa mi govorimo o maksimalnih 7% povečanja (i to ako se ostvari LF koji Emirates ima prosječno na svojoj mreži), a ovdje govorimo o 4.000%. Neka sitna razlika postoji, zar ne?<br /><br />5. Emirates je realnost, potvrđena realnost desecima primjera, ovo je bajka, još jedna u nizu izjava koja ne da nije istinita i nerealna, nego je stvarno nevjerojatno tragikomična.Alen Šćuric Purgernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-57428064131463484472017-01-20T08:29:04.918+01:002017-01-20T08:29:04.918+01:00Kako su oni išle priče kad je Qatar uvodio liniju ...Kako su oni išle priče kad je Qatar uvodio liniju za ZAG preko BUD ? <br />Nema šanse da se to napuni, ukinut će se prije nego krene..<br /><br />Pa onda krenulo za ZAG bez stopover, pa pojačali, pa opet pojačali, pa sad idu i a321 i widebodyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-23079974355098491122017-01-20T07:24:46.055+01:002017-01-20T07:24:46.055+01:00"Nekim turistima koji će navodno leteti u Hrv..."Nekim turistima koji će navodno leteti u Hrvatsku avionom"<br /><br /><br />muhahahaah<br />Kako će neke komšije šokirati, svakom godinom sve višeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-42315387850900897052017-01-20T06:19:46.280+01:002017-01-20T06:19:46.280+01:00Jedina stvar koja postaje ono... je to da se ovde ...Jedina stvar koja postaje ono... je to da se ovde prica o nekim turistima koji ce navodno leteti u Hrvatsku avionom. <br />Azijate sigurno posecuju Hrvatsku ali ne lete za nju kao prvu tacku vec je ona jedna od destinacija usput. <br /><br />Dakle nema sanse da napune 300 mesta u ekonomskoj klasi. <br /><br />Uz sve to, pricas o povecanju broj kineza u Srbiji a sto se ne pitas koje bi povecanje imao ZAG kada bi se obistinilo to sto pises? To je kao sasvim realno?<br /><br />Realno je da aerodrom poput ZAG-a koji ima svega 180.000 putnika tokom zimskih meseci napuni B777? Da napuni 53 premium sedista?<br /><br />Ne zezaj nas. Ove izjave su ravne Vucicevim. Dakle isti ste.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-58878204395580639732017-01-20T01:44:22.154+01:002017-01-20T01:44:22.154+01:00Hrvatska ima 130.000 turista iz Kine. Rast je 30% ...Hrvatska ima 130.000 turista iz Kine. Rast je 30% godišnje. Dio ih dolazi i zimi. Iz Azije, Afrike i Australije ima preko milijun turista godišnje. Ne vidim kako je moguće da ovo uspoređujete sa izjavom da će pola milijuna kineskih turista doći u Srbiju?<br /><br />Pola milijuna kineskih turista u Srbiji bi <br />- bilo povečanje od 50% stranih turista sveukupno,<br /><br />- povećanje kineskih turista bi bilo 40 puta nego sada, tj. 4.000% <br /><br />- svaki treći turist u Srbiji bi bio iz Kine, <br /><br />- Srbija bi imala više kineskih turista nego Češka (uključujući Prag) za 70% i nego Mađarska (uključujući Budimpeštu) za 420%<br /><br />- Srbija bi imala više kineskih turista nego Češka, Mađarska i Hrvatska zajedno<br /><br /><br />Iskreno ovo je jači biser nego da ni jedan grad na Balkanu nema vezu prema SAD-u (tko šljivi Atenu i Istanbul), da je Beograd najveća balkanska zračna luka (jel bitno šo ih je čak 7 većih), te da Air Serbia ima više putnika nego sve ostale kompanije na prostoru bivše Jugoslavije zajedno.<br /><br />Mislim da bi PM ipak trebao promijeniti savjetnike, jer ovo postaje...Alen Šćuric Purgernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-6941009385764192062017-01-20T01:20:49.860+01:002017-01-20T01:20:49.860+01:00Purgeru smeta tih pola miliona a normalno mu je da...Purgeru smeta tih pola miliona a normalno mu je da EK stavi 77W kako bi dovodio Azijske turiste u Zagreb. Mogu da zamislim koliko ce tih turista doci u Novembru ili Februaru da bi napunili let svaki dan, a tek koliko ce tih zimskih turista platiti za 54 mesta u prvoj i biznis klasi, i to pored QR! To mu nije nenormalno, samo je onih pola miliona cudno?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-10904915027064310232017-01-20T00:17:14.372+01:002017-01-20T00:17:14.372+01:00Yes Nemjee, that may well be the point of your pos...Yes Nemjee, that may well be the point of your post, but don;t muddle it by writing inaccuracies. The problem in doing so, is that the point you are trying to make gets lost Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-12746819690974742152017-01-19T23:47:24.605+01:002017-01-19T23:47:24.605+01:00Purger, sta si se uhvatio za tih pola miliona ko p...Purger, sta si se uhvatio za tih pola miliona ko pijan plota. To je jedino Vucic spomenuo... svi ostali samo kazu da ce biti povecanje turistaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-26391378805666456772017-01-19T23:43:52.498+01:002017-01-19T23:43:52.498+01:00The point of my argument is that this is a politic...The point of my argument is that this is a political project and because of that it will be given special attention. Serbia is China's strategic partner in Europe and they will keep on pushing this only to keep up appearances. Chinese tourism to Serbia will be encouraged (to put it mildly) one way or another.<br /><br />You (supposedly) live in China so you should know how much importance Beijing gives to its strategic interests and with what determination it pursues them.Nemjeenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-11244952400450513052017-01-19T23:36:49.933+01:002017-01-19T23:36:49.933+01:00Nemjee, i live and work in Shanghai and have done ...Nemjee, i live and work in Shanghai and have done so for the past 5 years and i'm sorry to say that you don't know what you are talking about re Chinese tourists.<br /><br />1. While the potential for Serbia is big, it is also much bigger for existing European destinations such as France, Italy, the UK and Switzerland - who today, only receive a very small percentage of all outbound Chinese tourists. Despite the absolute number being already large - it still only represents a very small percentage of the total travelling overseas. So when the size of the middle class grows, for sure they will head to these established and well known destinations before they ever think of going to Serbia.. <br /> <br />2. Leading on from this point, Serbia is unknown. It will take many years and many dollars of investment to get it to a point where it becomes a place that Chinese will want to visit.<br /><br />3. Over 90% of Chinese travelling to Europe, do so as part of an escorted group with a fixed itinerary - usually covering a 7 to 10 day period. Their main goal is to see as much as they can and to visit as many countries as they can - all by coach. Getting visas is NOT an issue at all, as they are part of an organised group and the tour operator does this for them. If it was a problem, then we wouldn't see so many Chinese tourists throughout Europe. You can easily check this with the biggest Chinese tour operators such as CITS, CYTS, CTS and Kaissa.<br /><br />4. First time travellers, always want to see the aforementioned countries. Serbia isn;t even on the tourist map in China nor will it ever attract those who travel infrequently. It will only have interest for those who have ALREADY been to Europe and want to experience something new. And herein lies the irony - this number in absolute terms, is a small percentage of those who travel to Europe.<br /><br />5. Moreover, rarely do such escorted groups ever do a mono destination. So even if they arrived in Serbia as their first stop before travelling onwards to surrounding countries, they would still require a visa for Montenegro, Bosnia, Macedonia, Croatia, Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary etc etc. These countries are not geared up to handle an avalanche of applications for a tourist visa like the Schengen countries are, because each of these have outsourced their visa application processing to companies like VFS. There is also the cost of additional visas if Serbia is their first stop, which adds to the burden/cost of their tour. So it isn't going to happen.<br /><br />Why ?<br /><br />Because a Schengen visa eliminates the need to have to apply for visas to visit all these other countries. ! application and job done. So visa-free travel will do little to suddenly bring about a huge influx of Chinese tourists to Serbia. They already have the ability to visit Serbia visa free - by having either a valid Schengen visa or a US visa.<br /><br />Lastly, what drives big numbers of Chinese tour groups, is shopping. Tour operators get huge kick backs and incentives from retailers for bringing these grous to their stores, which helps subsidize and keep the costs of tours low. Serbia has little to offer in this regard.<br /><br />The best hope for Serbia, is to work with tour operators for the destination to be included as part of an itinerary, which could see 1 day and 1 night included in existing itineraries that they have developed. <br /><br />Do some research to better inform yourself, or else, make it clearer that you are expressing an opinion on a subject which you don't really know that much about. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-37681457873491496502017-01-19T23:32:44.928+01:002017-01-19T23:32:44.928+01:00has=had*has=had*Alen Šćuric Purgernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-4519791950210190762017-01-19T23:31:43.532+01:002017-01-19T23:31:43.532+01:00Czech republic with tourist mecca Prague has 300.0...Czech republic with tourist mecca Prague has 300.000 Chinese tourists.<br /><br />France which is No.1 tourist country in Europe has 1,9 million tourist in 2015.<br /><br />So, Serbia would have much more Chinese tourist than Czech Republic, and 1/4 of France?Alen Šćuric Purgernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-15697321020441240682017-01-19T23:23:13.468+01:002017-01-19T23:23:13.468+01:00You are funny!You are funny!Alen Šćuric Purgernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-81751059773166391372017-01-19T23:21:20.177+01:002017-01-19T23:21:20.177+01:00Да је Ер Србија у могућности она би већ узела друг...Да је Ер Србија у могућности она би већ узела други А332. <br />Са друге стране визе су званично укинуте пре мање од недељу дана. Претпостављам да се то чекало. Nemjeenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-72028493716321780452017-01-19T23:14:19.893+01:002017-01-19T23:14:19.893+01:00Ne treba dve godine da se dogovore letovi sa Kinom...Ne treba dve godine da se dogovore letovi sa Kinom, šta se tu događa? Oni još nemaju ime aviokompanije koja bi trebalo da leti za par meseci, tu nešto nije u redu!<br /><br />S druge strane Er Srbija može da uzme još jedan A330 i da počne da leti za Kinu, ako je očekivani broj putnika tačan. Ta linija bi pravila pare, ko je onda lud da odbija da leti i traži da Kinezi lete umesto Er Srbije? Nešto i tu smrdi.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-42625527901889095642017-01-19T21:54:37.576+01:002017-01-19T21:54:37.576+01:00Since we are talking about percentages here, what&...Since we are talking about percentages here, what's the growth of Israeli tourists this year? I am sure it's in double, even triple digits. <br /><br />I am not saying that there will be 500.000 Chinese visiting Serbia next year but I wouldn't be surprised if there is a boom. <br /><br />Yes, yes... Chinese tourists don't visit just one country. Yes, yes... they can enter Serbia if they have a Schengen visa. All that stands but for many Chinese getting the Schengen visa is no easy task. Serbia might be attractive to those who don't travel very often but who want to experience Europe. <br /><br />Tourist demand is there as much as you stimulate it. Given that this is a political project on both sides, I am sure there will be quite a lot of stimulation. Nemjeenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-72372921392740678002017-01-19T20:45:47.050+01:002017-01-19T20:45:47.050+01:00Kina je veliko tržište, svakako ima potencijala za...Kina je veliko tržište, svakako ima potencijala za letove, Air Serbia bi svakako trebala puniti avione za Kinu jer bi to obezbedilo putnike. Ne znam koji prevoznik bi mogao biti ali bi voleo da bude Hainan airlinesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com