tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post822185797404254754..comments2024-03-29T01:02:37.939+01:00Comments on EX-YU Aviation News: B&H suspends Frankfurt and ViennaEX-YU Aviationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13952283005857074627noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-35273566736354204852011-05-20T08:10:45.726+02:002011-05-20T08:10:45.726+02:00Again, this is the *wrong* move for the airline, a...Again, this is the *wrong* move for the airline, and highlights how not allowing airline professionals in to run the business has caused this sudden demise.<br /><br />JA has to ask itself some tough questions, the first being what it sees its future as. Flying daily to IST isn't a career path for the airline, but it seems many running the show still don't quite grasp that fundamental point...<br /><br />The airline needs to work out what can be achieved with its current planes, and the contingency plan when one cannot fly. But I don't believe they are even looking that far ahead - it is suddenly now day to day existence. And has any help been provided by parent TK?<br /><br />Will we see the 'big 3' (OU, JU, JP) step up to better serve SJJ? OU has already increased its capacity (2 daily 42-seat AT4s to 2 daily 76-seat Q400s) and serves those destinations lost with good connections, JU needs to get its AT7s back to double daily to match OU, and JP could even look at doing another PRN and basing a plane at SJJ if it results in profitability.<br /><br />JAs future and BNXs future are incredibly linked: if the two cannot work together, then unfortunately both will collapse. BNX needs to allow the JA feeder service, JA needs those pax to keep flying. Perhaps now that the airline is no longer owned by the FBiH govt this situation could work better?frequentflyernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-18966315765028984752011-05-20T06:56:13.374+02:002011-05-20T06:56:13.374+02:00I do not think that the Atr has the range to do Sa...I do not think that the Atr has the range to do Sarajevo to Amsterdam. I remember I flew on Jat's Atr from Belgrade to Munich and that was already three hours. It was NOT funny! <br /><br />So besides Zurich, where else does this Atr fly to? Why don't they add something decent not so far away from Sarajevo like Milano or Rome? I am sure that there is enough demand to fly a three times per week Atr, not to mention that they could attract tourists.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-67128048912219046852011-05-19T22:24:53.653+02:002011-05-19T22:24:53.653+02:00In my opinion, this has not much to do with the re...In my opinion, this has not much to do with the return of 1 ATR-72.<br /><br />Because the ATR that stays will now only operate ZRH. It could perfectly operate FRA and VIE every other day, which would still mean only 2 rotations a day.<br /><br />Occassionaly it could take over an AMS or IST flight, when the 319 is on C or D checks..<br /><br />Just my 2cts<br /><br />Pozz,<br />BoBonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-6379716167618054542011-05-19T20:02:49.586+02:002011-05-19T20:02:49.586+02:00Hey people whats going on with bosnian aviation in...Hey people whats going on with bosnian aviation industry?!?<br />Every single country of the ex-yu experienced huge pax and network growth after the visa liberalisation and BiH experinces a downward shift..<br />I am really confused.SJJ has almost no growth, BiH Airlines suspends such strategic destinations like VIE and FRA.After all there is so huge diaspora in Austria and Germany, how cant they manage to fill 60 seats on such flights..Half of Vienna is Bosnian, you hear bosnian everywhere.Besides the competition from OS on SJJ-VIE shuld not be taken seriously.OS charges 380Euros for point-to-point flights.For example on VIE-SKP leg you see transit pax from all over the world except from VIE cause flying JP or OU instead of OS costs the half price..To me looks like the MAT situation 6 months before grounding.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-3035987088424687312011-05-19T17:50:42.261+02:002011-05-19T17:50:42.261+02:00This is because the airline is un heard of, there ...This is because the airline is un heard of, there is no media investment, half the people in RS and Fbih dont even know that BH airlines exists.NRSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-4544883451893183752011-05-19T17:25:33.713+02:002011-05-19T17:25:33.713+02:00Finally the Turks will be in charge so there still...Finally the Turks will be in charge so there still might be hope for JA<br /><br /><br />http://ekapija.ba/website/bih/page/432126Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-69104787510535115532011-05-19T17:11:13.867+02:002011-05-19T17:11:13.867+02:00I would like to know what is JAT results from 1991...I would like to know what is JAT results from 1991 to 2011 or (1990-2010). I know we had sanctions but I am interested to know how many passengers went true JAT for the last 20 years. Approximately 12-13 mil more or less. What is your guess???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-18851502390462967582011-05-19T15:34:21.164+02:002011-05-19T15:34:21.164+02:00As JA management is not able to understand simple ...As JA management is not able to understand simple concepts as code share agreements and scheduling it is not surprising that FRA & VIE are not profitable.<br /><br />Thus JA becomes carrier that is only suitable for budget turists and diaspora travelers. As they are targeting budget travelers VIE route is additionally hit by poor communication inside Bosnia and by relative closeness of Vienna.Zraknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-53153114509387450332011-05-19T14:35:15.667+02:002011-05-19T14:35:15.667+02:00no surprise
people travel vienna-bih by busno surprise<br /><br />people travel vienna-bih by busAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-42880983899240094022011-05-19T13:40:25.853+02:002011-05-19T13:40:25.853+02:00Both JA services - VIE and FRA are point-to-point ...Both JA services - VIE and FRA are point-to-point services only and not OS/LH feeder flights. That's the main reason for their failure.<br /><br />In addition, OS already operates two convenient daily flights to VIE from SJJ.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-47949763571595724472011-05-19T13:09:32.691+02:002011-05-19T13:09:32.691+02:00It is obviously that they want to take company to ...It is obviously that they want to take company to bankrupt. Frankfurt and Vienna are profitable routes for every airline company in Europe. Disgusting! Everybody who thinks that Sarajevo-Frankfurt with ATR cant be profitable need a doctor!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-86388306074856050552011-05-19T13:04:23.037+02:002011-05-19T13:04:23.037+02:00Adria will replace probably just the profitable an...Adria will replace probably just the profitable and by public money suported flights and after a certain period Turkish will buy Adria. ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-78380035648796334742011-05-19T11:56:11.734+02:002011-05-19T11:56:11.734+02:00Hey I never saw this coming at all, well I think i...Hey I never saw this coming at all, well I think it's safe to say most carriers could make Frankfurt and Vienna work in terms of pax demand etc. Although taking into consideration their fleet shortages one could say it is just a measure taken to ensure possible expansion in a later period pending delivery of say another one or two Airbus A319 frames.AirKoryoTU-204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-38684201278180112202011-05-19T09:23:42.089+02:002011-05-19T09:23:42.089+02:00I have a feeling we are seeing another MATI have a feeling we are seeing another MATAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-37637180482584205082011-05-19T09:07:43.075+02:002011-05-19T09:07:43.075+02:00One would think Frankfurt and Vienna would have hu...One would think Frankfurt and Vienna would have huge potentials, especially in terms of business, no? This looks dire for the company but more so for the country. Does B&H not have anything to offer?Peter from Sydneynoreply@blogger.com