tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post1085311692229295513..comments2024-03-28T13:59:08.434+01:00Comments on EX-YU Aviation News: Croatia Airlines eyes three types for fleet expansionEX-YU Aviationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13952283005857074627noreply@blogger.comBlogger105125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-29682657327969547812016-12-28T23:28:59.582+01:002016-12-28T23:28:59.582+01:00Peter...it was more like 5000 - 5,300. We will rea...Peter...it was more like 5000 - 5,300. We will reach 2,75 mill for sure. My estimate...2,77 mill. Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06042227699160005576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-53887845813197750692016-12-28T22:19:55.213+01:002016-12-28T22:19:55.213+01:00Croatians would never buy Russian planes...Croatians would never buy Russian planes...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-30278460610587572012016-12-27T22:39:47.501+01:002016-12-27T22:39:47.501+01:00@michael -thanks for the info, this means onlyappr...@michael -thanks for the info, this means onlyapprox 4.600 pax a day on average in December...? Oh boy... :( that sounds weak. It will be worse than December in 2015...and ZAG won' t even reach 2.75 mil...Petarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08097841895448140789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-8017187802169538172016-12-27T20:33:54.305+01:002016-12-27T20:33:54.305+01:00@anon at 7:09PM Doubt it. If we end on 2,8 million...@anon at 7:09PM Doubt it. If we end on 2,8 million, that'll be amazing! Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06042227699160005576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-76105351309063658132016-12-27T20:29:47.143+01:002016-12-27T20:29:47.143+01:00It surpassed it, I didn't say it reached 2,7 m...It surpassed it, I didn't say it reached 2,7 million. And December isn't over yet. :)<br />It'll probably end on 2,77 - 2,78 million.Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06042227699160005576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-28706708486524853702016-12-27T19:15:28.295+01:002016-12-27T19:15:28.295+01:00So it means that Zagreb had 120000 pax in December...So it means that Zagreb had 120000 pax in December this year? 50000 pax less than last year in December?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-16180147759486328112016-12-27T19:09:54.160+01:002016-12-27T19:09:54.160+01:00Hopefully 2.9 by the end!Hopefully 2.9 by the end!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-52347303586347438772016-12-27T19:04:32.402+01:002016-12-27T19:04:32.402+01:00It's 5 per day Zag-Fra-Zag; 2 by LH and 3 by O...It's 5 per day Zag-Fra-Zag; 2 by LH and 3 by OUAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-36073333093314433692016-12-27T17:12:49.209+01:002016-12-27T17:12:49.209+01:00ZAG has surpassed 2,7 million pax yesterday! ZAG has surpassed 2,7 million pax yesterday! Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06042227699160005576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-36161299417254918052016-12-27T17:10:48.972+01:002016-12-27T17:10:48.972+01:00OU needs to be given away as a present to a privat...OU needs to be given away as a present to a private company and the state should get out of its ownership structure! If they float...good. If not,they deserve to go belly up. Who cares...to an average Croatian citizen, OU means nothing. Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06042227699160005576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-76946505367368974222016-12-27T17:06:41.524+01:002016-12-27T17:06:41.524+01:00Yes it was! Which is my point. How will they pay t...Yes it was! Which is my point. How will they pay that off? Since...you know, now they should function on free market principle, ha ha! Yeah...right. Socialism par excellence! Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06042227699160005576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-41720625977951997902016-12-27T09:35:22.701+01:002016-12-27T09:35:22.701+01:00Purger the reason why the SSJ has had moderate suc...Purger the reason why the SSJ has had moderate success is because Sukhoi is new to the airliner game and no serious airliner has come out of Russia in 25 years. The MRJ has the same issue. The MRJ has maybe order for 50 planes which will be delivered. Most of those orders such as Skywest I can 120% guarantee will never happen. Skywest was hoping that scope clause would be relaxed but now that is unlikely to happen. <br /><br />Add to that the fact that the SSJ had problems and delays in its development and the fact that it came to market at a terrible time when airlines had a very hard time made it even more difficult, <br /><br />Few people are even aware on what airliner they will ride on, and only a portion of those people are Russophobic. And you know that only a handful of people will actually pay money to avoid the SSJ. Same as with ASL to Tirana. People said that it was a waste of money and that nobody will fly an airline called Air Serbia, but now Tirana is a popular route for Air Serbia. aleksandarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12904977131473241975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-85975298107038668412016-12-27T09:19:23.206+01:002016-12-27T09:19:23.206+01:00OU will be ordering CS100, 99.999% certain of that...OU will be ordering CS100, 99.999% certain of that, but it won't be before May 2017 for service entry in 2018 summer season. <br /><br />Six CS 100 will be ordered on lease to own. A 319s will be retired in 2022/3 and replaced by A320 Neos, however 6 additional CS 100s might be ordered if things go well for OU before A319s are retired. <br /><br />Kucko will be gone by end of February or March, that will be that. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-80424899442363114152016-12-27T09:11:30.288+01:002016-12-27T09:11:30.288+01:00Because the SSJ came late to the party, their init...Because the SSJ came late to the party, their initial aircraft were too heavy so the manufacturer was delayed until they sorted it out. That's why Aeroflot returned their first SSJs. <br />Also, we can't rule out that airlines actually wanted to wait out so as to see how the aircraft performs before they commit to it. Let's also not forget that the SSJ came online a few years before the World Economic Crisis which did not help.<br /><br />However, the fact that Air France expressed interest in leasing it from CityJet shows that serious airlines are not against it just because it's 'Russian.'<br /><br />So if the mainstream media did not pickup the AF story then I don't see why it would do it for a small country like Croatia?<br /><br />Also, let me correct you that it's not only one airline in Europe that operates it, there is also Aeroflot and a few other airlines. Europe doesn't end east of Croatia. ;)<br />I disagree that the phobia is there. Don't forget that Aeroflot dispatches its SSJ to many, many European destinations, Zagreb included, and I don't remember reading anywhere that people refused to fly on them.<br />Let's also not forget that Interjet sends its SSJ to the United States and, just like Aeroflot, no one seemed to mind.<br /><br />All this said, I am still not sure if you are implying that the SSJ is a bad aircraft or not. Nemjeenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-24474730686035286092016-12-27T08:52:00.283+01:002016-12-27T08:52:00.283+01:00Nemjee, ohhhh you are so wrong. All Europe would k...Nemjee, ohhhh you are so wrong. All Europe would know in a second. Unfortunately phobia of Russian planes in Europe is huge. And in a second everyone would know.<br /><br />So, it is cheap but very good plane. Why than just ONE small unimportant company fly that plane in Europe? Please answer me that question.Alen Šćuric Purgernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-24752964970826406032016-12-27T07:00:05.191+01:002016-12-27T07:00:05.191+01:00I still think only a small percentage of passenger...I still think only a small percentage of passengers will know, it's not like major news outlets will report on OU getting a Russian jet. Especially not at a time when more and more EU members are starting to oppose any additional sanctions on Russia. At the end of the day, it will boil down to politics, not the quality of the aircraft. I still don't see why Croatia needs to worry if it's the first or not. Croatia Airlines should get an aircraft that's affordable, readily available and that fits their business model. You know what they say, beggars can't be choosers. <br /><br />Anon 12.56<br /><br />Because the EU and Latvia's political elite are equally paranoid when it comes to Russia. <br /><br />Anon 2.11<br /><br />Yes, I agree with you as far as Aviolet goes but don't forget that these aircraft are in such a state because they are old and because JU doesn't want to refurbish them. Take a look at Lufthansa's B737s before they retired them. They were as old as Air Serbia's but their cabin was in an impeccable state. If JU fixed it a little bit then the difference wouldn't be as great. <br />Anyway, a friend who works for JAT Tehnika told me that the first B737 will be retired next year due to the number of cycles, my guess is that it will be YU-AND though the other three are probably not too far behind. Nemjeenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-50511602077060748332016-12-27T02:11:36.350+01:002016-12-27T02:11:36.350+01:00Sorry nemjee but some ordinary passengers can see ...Sorry nemjee but some ordinary passengers can see the difference between relatively "modern" planes.As I have said before you must see the disappointmet on the passengers faces when they expect an a319 from JU and they get a B733 scrap from Aviolet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-23840170963438951672016-12-27T02:05:35.795+01:002016-12-27T02:05:35.795+01:00OU will eventually work out some plan with Lufthan...OU will eventually work out some plan with Lufthansa. They can lease some crj's at afordable price.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03626291433192329229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-41186232251215137452016-12-27T01:43:43.660+01:002016-12-27T01:43:43.660+01:00Mozda ce ako ne nabave nove mozda ce slicno nabavi...Mozda ce ako ne nabave nove mozda ce slicno nabaviti RJ kao i OS da preuzmu neke Embraer-eod strane LH .<br />INN-NSAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-36782180101498652342016-12-27T01:43:29.524+01:002016-12-27T01:43:29.524+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-23656382645479276802016-12-27T00:56:36.792+01:002016-12-27T00:56:36.792+01:00Why was Air Baltic instructed not to put them in f...Why was Air Baltic instructed not to put them in fleet and by who?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-24118328548205770982016-12-26T23:54:17.590+01:002016-12-26T23:54:17.590+01:00Of course they can not say the difference. But whe...Of course they can not say the difference. But when you get reputation there is no way that you will make it OK. And trust me in a second everyone will know that Croatia is only country in Europe where flag carrier fly Russian airplanes.<br /><br />One should thing why just one tinny European carrier has few SSJ. Why non flag carriers have them. Even more why no any carriers have them. And why Air Baltic was instructed not to put them in fleet.<br /><br />In that light Croatia would be stupid to be first and only one. That would be more than bad image for company and country. Alen Šćuric Purgernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-73444125712755013842016-12-26T23:26:30.349+01:002016-12-26T23:26:30.349+01:00Type rating will have to be done regardless if the...Type rating will have to be done regardless if the new plane is a SSJ or CRJ. SSJ has a full training center in Venice. <br /><br />There are a few MROs in Europe. The main one is also in Venice. And why couldn't Croatia Airlines get set up as an MRO for SSJ?<br /><br />And actually the entire spare part warehouse is located in Frankfurt and is managed by Lufthansa. Considering there are like 4 flights per day between FRA and ZAG I don't think it will ever be a problem to have the parts delivered within hours. aleksandarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12904977131473241975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-8971672478121675852016-12-26T22:18:22.728+01:002016-12-26T22:18:22.728+01:00Wasn't the downpayment secured by the governme...Wasn't the downpayment secured by the government? It was quite a while ago.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-8065164970762379962016-12-26T22:16:00.551+01:002016-12-26T22:16:00.551+01:00Kucko prica gluposti kao po obicaju, cim spominje ...Kucko prica gluposti kao po obicaju, cim spominje ovakve avione tipa SSJ100 i slicno vidim da je to neki cudan intervju. Pa tko normalan bi kupovao ruski avijon SSJ100, niti imas servisnu mrezu, niti imas pilote type rating za SSJ100. Ja kada bi recimo bio CEO u CA, ja bi uzeo CRJ900, servis mi je blizu u Adria Tehnici u LJU.<br />Mutassimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04753979412975094578noreply@blogger.com