tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post2932688734837429405..comments2024-03-29T12:58:01.654+01:00Comments on EX-YU Aviation News: Etihad to retain stakes in foreign airlinesEX-YU Aviationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13952283005857074627noreply@blogger.comBlogger115125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-34928099047168724402017-11-16T11:27:37.955+01:002017-11-16T11:27:37.955+01:00That's an understatement.That's an understatement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-62835298187496799162017-11-16T11:18:32.641+01:002017-11-16T11:18:32.641+01:00That they have no clue whatsoever what they are do...That they have no clue whatsoever what they are doing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-2562807298956718632017-11-16T07:56:40.527+01:002017-11-16T07:56:40.527+01:00Qatar did it even twice! Then again they seem to b...Qatar did it even twice! Then again they seem to be far more aggressive on the Serbian market.Nemjeenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-8477589150021886882017-11-16T01:24:19.041+01:002017-11-16T01:24:19.041+01:00Qatar did it before. They're pathetic.Qatar did it before. They're pathetic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-84590871211960148552017-11-15T19:34:14.927+01:002017-11-15T19:34:14.927+01:00Anon 12.16
Etihad never considered sending the A3...Anon 12.16<br /><br />Etihad never considered sending the A332, that as just a rumour that someone started on here. That said, they did consider sending their A321. <br />Nemjeenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-36498632699215588312017-11-15T19:32:09.781+01:002017-11-15T19:32:09.781+01:00Yes... 15 from BEG. :D Thank you, I was never good...Yes... 15 from BEG. :D Thank you, I was never good at maths. lol<br /><br />Anon 04.37<br /><br />I am waiting to see what easyJet does, I have a feeling we might see a fourth flight this summer.Nemjeenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-51680903737775689402017-11-15T19:17:11.725+01:002017-11-15T19:17:11.725+01:0060 million USD + 40 million loan.60 million USD + 40 million loan.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-56966896193856295842017-11-15T18:52:32.499+01:002017-11-15T18:52:32.499+01:00Yes, EU laws are 'bent' all the time, but ...Yes, EU laws are 'bent' all the time, but only by/for the likes of LH and Germany, not JU and Serbia. <br />There are other areas where €50m would be better spent. If JU can be come sustainable on ~€10m subsidy per year, that would be acceptable. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-58566739913318264442017-11-15T17:24:25.200+01:002017-11-15T17:24:25.200+01:00Between Air Berlin and Alitalia, of course it is.....Between Air Berlin and Alitalia, of course it is...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-68898798829933607342017-11-15T17:20:23.692+01:002017-11-15T17:20:23.692+01:00P.s tbe Slovenian government gave 3.1 million euro...P.s tbe Slovenian government gave 3.1 million euros to 4k invest. Not "close to 1 million" like you made up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-16187762310631706782017-11-15T17:18:24.828+01:002017-11-15T17:18:24.828+01:00How much money did the Slovenian government give t...How much money did the Slovenian government give to Adria for which it was investigated by the EU?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-13379124060902399822017-11-15T17:16:59.028+01:002017-11-15T17:16:59.028+01:00Yeah, Slovania onvested close to 1mil€, Serbian go...Yeah, Slovania onvested close to 1mil€, Serbian government is now standing somewhere between 400-500mil€<br />Great comparationAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-90400731732982888772017-11-15T16:39:27.386+01:002017-11-15T16:39:27.386+01:00Agree. There are only 1 mio inhabitants in Abu Dha...Agree. There are only 1 mio inhabitants in Abu Dhabi - surrounded by mostly desert and sea. <br /><br />P2P is rather neglegible, especially if you mostly have wide body routes/planes with more than 230-500 costly seats per flights.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-41420710978604744972017-11-15T16:37:24.462+01:002017-11-15T16:37:24.462+01:00I want back on BEG-GVA route! :)I want back on BEG-GVA route! :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-1741071494685611432017-11-15T16:18:47.748+01:002017-11-15T16:18:47.748+01:00To sto ti mislis je potpuno beznacajno. Postoje za...To sto ti mislis je potpuno beznacajno. Postoje zakoni koji to regulisu. Vidimo kako se lako izigravaju zakoni u EU zasto bi to bio problem u SR. Dok im ne dopizdi ili dok gradjani ne zareze mogu taj sitan novac da ulazu u kompaniju to je godisnje deset dolara po putniku na BEG mnogo vise daju neki gradovi za Wizz i RA. I to nije ozbiljan novac ako ne pricas sa ovdasnjim "platisama" poreza koje pas nema za sta da ugrize. Imaju oni mnogo preca posla pravosudje, korupcija, privredni kriminal, slom Todoricevih firmi, izgradnja infrastrukture. Zamisli samo da godisnje pare uloze u izgradnju Ladjevaca, Ponikvi i zavrsetak Nisa. <br />Pa svi bi im glasali za njih u tim sredinama. Sve dok iz prikrajka rade Dinkic, Vlahovic i Labus nema boljitka u Srbiji.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-18985232403964180562017-11-15T15:52:53.365+01:002017-11-15T15:52:53.365+01:00All Gulf carriers are basing their strategy on tra...All Gulf carriers are basing their strategy on transfer traffic due to their superb location between continents, and this guy is talking about p2p. What is it that am I not understanding here?Petar Čelikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14203908949248325000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-30848566368879709312017-11-15T15:23:43.064+01:002017-11-15T15:23:43.064+01:00Thank you Nemjee for the info. Precisely speaking ...Thank you Nemjee for the info. Precisely speaking there will be 16 flights to BEG (and 3 to INI), not 18. Two additional rotations are on Tue and Thu in the morning, both operated by CS300 which is really nice.Dejan Milinkovićnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-52503551354160269112017-11-15T14:57:29.157+01:002017-11-15T14:57:29.157+01:00Mant things were not done right, but that is in th...Mant things were not done right, but that is in the past. BTW, with GoS guarantee, JU could have gotten better lease rates. Particulalry on A332. <br /><br />I can see how IKA would be a great route if it weren't for EY.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-12854023743519149292017-11-15T14:45:45.422+01:002017-11-15T14:45:45.422+01:00I can't quite buy the argument that they are s...I can't quite buy the argument that they are spending more money on other projects. Just because they spend it elsewhere doesn't mean they should spend it on JU.<br />If GoS doesn't cut subsidies, it is not inconcievable that EU would politely 'ask' GoS to suspend the subsidies as the practice is illegal by EU standards. Before someone says the obvious technicality that Serbia is not in EU and not bound by the rules, let me just say that they can do as they please and our hand is weak (nit sure we actually have it at all), as evidenced in other more important issues. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-20505316110012623682017-11-15T14:39:20.699+01:002017-11-15T14:39:20.699+01:00@ anon 11:32
Apaurin...@ anon 11:32<br />Apaurin...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-36763733867254275922017-11-15T14:28:55.223+01:002017-11-15T14:28:55.223+01:00Because the press releases and phrases are cooked ...Because the press releases and phrases are cooked up by the same people - Etihad PR.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-44404289822402113832017-11-15T14:23:33.704+01:002017-11-15T14:23:33.704+01:00In agree with you. Etihad didn't do its homewo...In agree with you. Etihad didn't do its homework of the Serbian market before it set up Air Serbia. Should have been a completely different strategy from the start.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-51600828298616897062017-11-15T13:53:55.568+01:002017-11-15T13:53:55.568+01:00It was not $200m to start with.
In any case, if th...It was not $200m to start with.<br />In any case, if there are no ongoing benefits/synergies from the investment, they might as well divest it. They may not be investing on an ongoing basis, but if they are not benefiting on an ongoing basis, then it's not strategic or core to EY. EY is not a long-only hedge fund to rely on appreciation of their stake in the company. I don't think that with passing of time their stake would appreciate much in any case. They need to focus on core activities and cut links to Hogan's disatrous legacy. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-91721464537752891832017-11-15T13:26:16.103+01:002017-11-15T13:26:16.103+01:00Air Serbia and Air Berlin are 2 different scenario...Air Serbia and Air Berlin are 2 different scenarios. The similarities end at both being unprofitable.<br /><br />To sum up things, I think that Air Serbia is suffering from poor decisions at both ends, EY and the Serbian government:<br /><br />- EY I believe failed to properly analise the Serbian market, pushing a premium offer for a market that simply can not sustain it.<br />- The Airbus fleet, as I have many times mentioned, simply doesnt suit them, and theyre struggling to bring up the average CLF to above 80%.<br />- Their ATR's are old and simply cannot work the way that JU needs them to.<br />- I do believe JU is paying high lease rates for their leased Airbuses. I doubt that what was left of Jat gave confidence for comapnies to give favourable leases for aircraft to Air Serbia.<br />- JU has wasted alot of money into products that dont last. Pillows, blankets, equipment for inflight service (meal trays, bowls, cutlery etc), going as extreme as cabin interior (seats, curtains, carpet). <br />- I think that BEG has been a weak point for them, and there is ALOT of complaints visible online of missing/delayed luggage, damaged luggage as well as stolen items from customer checked in baggage. Not only does JU loose on money earnt through ticket sales, they loose customers both current and potential (ie word of mouth, recommendations and the tens if not hundreds of negative reviews regarding this particular problem).<br />- Back to the fleet issue, JU simply cannot make the frequencies needed to properly make their transfer operations work. The massive jump in capacity from ATR to A319 has meant that JU simply loses out to its competitors. <br />- JU's employee count in very high for an operation of its size.<br />- JU fails to recognise markets or is hampered by EY insisting that certain markets in funneled theough AUH. As an example, the Balkans (BiH in particular) is very popular in the Gulf region, yet JU have just closed up its only route to the region - Abu Dhabi, a destination that took a couple of years to build up. <br />- Poor marketing means that alot of people<br />are unaware of JU in the destinations it flies to. IST was dropped while JU is faving competirion from 2 Israeli airline companies.<br />- JU could do more in making purchasing tickets alot easier. Improving the Elevate Play app to allow Online Check In and purchasing tickets would help, while improving and expanding staff travel would do well to get some form of revenue for empty seats.JATBEGMELnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5263744212273266286.post-42517377567024193132017-11-15T13:10:04.055+01:002017-11-15T13:10:04.055+01:00Exactly the same. I even saw a statement by Etihad...Exactly the same. I even saw a statement by Etihad CEO how this is "evolving the business". Kondic used exactly the same phrase.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com