Wizz Air begins Belgrade expansion


Low cost airline Wizz Air has based a second aircraft in Belgrade today and is to open four new routes, marking its first major expansion in the city following a public row with the airport in 2014. The jet arrived in the Serbian capital yesterday morning with flights to Friedrichshafen and Nuremberg launching today, while Hannover and Malta will follow over the weekend. The airline has scheduled a press conference in Belgrade at midday. All of its new routes will operate on a year-round basis, twice per week. Furthermore, it will boost frequencies on services to Dortmund, Eindhoven, Gothenburg, Memmingen and Stockholm Skavsta by adding an additional weekly flight. Wizz Air's CEO, Jozsef Varadi, said, “We are back in Belgrade after some turbulence. We are seeing significant demand for low cost flying in the country. We decided to deploy one more aircraft in Belgrade, our second Airbus A320 jet. It is a significant investment of around 100 million dollars. It will create 36 new jobs". He added, "This is the right stepping stone forward in this market which is unpenetrated. We are reacting to the increased level of demand".

Wizz Air's Belgrade expansion comes three years after it decided to significantly slash its operations from the city following a spat over fees. This resulted in the airline relocating one of the two aircraft it had stationed in Belgrade. At the time, the carrier said the city had become one of the most expensive in its network and accused "wannabe monopolists" Air Serbia and Etihad Airways of being behind the surge in fees. Commenting on the matter, Wizz Air's CEO said, “The airport charges are still high but the situation has changed. Over the last three years overall traffic has gone up 35%. Given the stronger than expected demand we decided that, despite the high airport charges, we would expand". The carrier noted that it would grow at a quicker pace if the fees were lower. "Should the charges come down we would do much more”, Mr Varadi added. This year, Wizz will offer 835.000 seats for sale to twenty destinations in seven countries from Belgrade and Niš.

The low cost carrier has now covered a number of destinations, particularly in Germany, which have been seeking services to Belgrade due to high demand. Other European airports which are also attempting to establish links with Serbia include Bordeaux in southern France, Brescia and Verona in northern Italy, as well as London Gatwick Airport. Furthermore, Madrid Airport has noted that 18.300 passengers travelled between the Spanish and Serbian capitals in 2015 (indirectly), while there were over 64.300 Internet searches for tickets between the two. In addition, Barcelona Airport, which has a seasonal link to Belgrade operated by Vueling, is seeking year-round flights to the city. In 2015, 14.719 passengers travelled with Vueling between the two cities, while a further 19.570 travellers flew indirectly between Belgrade and Barcelona. A total of 104.936 online ticket searches were made.


Wizz Air faces direct competition only on one of its four new routes from Belgrade, that being Malta. The budget airline will compete against Air Serbia, although the Serbian carrier maintains the service only on a seasonal summer basis, whereas Wizz will operate it throughout the year. Wizz Air has expanded its operation across the former Yugoslavia this year. In March it based a second aircraft in Tuzla and launched new destinations from the city, while it also commenced services from Budapest to Sarajevo, Pristina, Podgorica and Skopje. Furthermore, the airline will launch flights to Osijek today, while a new seasonal service from Katowice to Split will start in June. Later that month, the no frills airline will commence operations from London to Pristina, which will be followed by the stationing of its fourth aircraft in Skopje in July and the launch of three new routes as a result.

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  1. Welcome BACK for the second A320. As we all remember Wizz had that whole sperg attack a while ago.

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    1. Anonymous09:30

      They have changed their tune.

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    2. Anonymous09:32

      Not really. They still say the fares are too high but that the market has grown much more then they expected that they could not ignore it anymore.

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    3. Nemjee09:41

      Which is good because BEG won't be losing any money from Wizz Air. Also, if/when FR shows interest, they will have to pay regular fees which is fair. No special treatment for anyone.

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    4. Anonymous12:28

      Except for Air Serbia, where government "suggested" that BEG writes off 22 mio USD. Otherwise, fair market for everybody! :)

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    5. Anonymous12:36

      ZAsto ne osposobe aerodrom u Batajnici za LCC letove ? Mnogo je bolji od poovine evropskih malih aerodroma na koje sleću LCC.

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    6. Alen Šćuric Purger13:06

      A koja bi logika toga bila:
      - Tesla ima dovoljno kapaciteta
      - Tesla ima mogućnost brzog, jeftinog i efikasnog povećanja kapaciteta na postojećoj infrastrukturi na 10 milijuna putnika
      - i nakon toga Tesla ima prostora da se širi sa termialom D jednostavno i relativno jeftino
      - dva aerodroma znače bitno više troškove operacija od kontrole letenja, preko zemaljskog transfera do Beograda, duplih aerodromskih službi, osiguranja, separacije...
      - potencijalni konetirani putnici imali bi gubitak vremena trasfera od minimalno dodatnih sat vremena, te trošak istog (svaki puta kada sletim na CDG iz ZAG i idem na ORY lovit let za FDF dobim slom živaca, iako postoje dva dnevna leta za FDF i isto toliko za ZAG, barem u jednom smjeru moram noćiti u Parizu, to dodatno košta i uzima ozbiljno vremena)
      - isto smanjuje prihod Tesle
      - sa samo LCC i charterima Batajnica ne može biti profitabilna ni sa 2 milijuna putnika (što mislite zašto se Hahn zatvara?), te bi samo donosila gubitak
      - konačno za prilagodbu Batajnice civionom zrakoplovstvu, te odvajanje vojnog dijela potrebna su bitna financijska sredstva, daleko veća nego što je povećanje kapaciteta na Tesli.

      itd, itd, itd...

      Ovakvo razmišljanje nema baš nikakve, ali nikave ekonomske opravdanosti.

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    7. Anonymous17:46

      Ipak ima vise ek. logike od bacanja para u Moravu i Ponikve na koje u ovom veku nece sleteti komercijalni avion. Mada u pravu ste - dok je monopola ANT sasvim je sigurno da Batajnica nece napredovati. Slicno je bilo u Rumuniji gde je zbog dominacije OTP zatvorena Baneasa.

      ATCO

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    8. Alen Šćuric Purger00:31

      Koji crni monopol? Pa i Batajnica i Tesla su u istom vlasništvu. Kao i Baneasa i OTP. Kod malih aerodroma kao što je BEG i OTP nema nikakvog ekonomskog opravdanja imati dva aerodroma, posebno tako blizu. Jeste li pročitali bar jedan od argumenata koje sam napisao?

      To što se bacio novac u Moravu i Ponikve, a da terminali nemaju ni jednog jedinog putnika, ne opravdava još jedan projekt koji ne bi imao logike, ekonomske opravdljivosti i koji bi stvorio jedan aerodrom sa bitno manje prihoda, a drugi koji bi bio gubitaš (Batajnica)

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  2. Anonymous09:03

    So much for people saying there is no market between Serbia and Spain.

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    1. Anonymous09:06

      The issue is that 90% of those people travel in July and August. So the issue isn't the market it is extreme seasonality.

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    2. Nemjee09:07

      Well, on average 25 one way passengers flew between MAD and BEG, that's not enough to warrant a direct flight, especially since the flight wouldn't be short.

      I think it makes far more sense for someone like Norwegian or easyJet to launch LGW-BEG.

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    3. Anonymous09:46

      Spain is so underserved from Belgrade. Vueling is too expensive and they fly only during the summer.

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    4. Anonymous09:51

      That´s exactly the point. How is Vueling expensive? Too few people willing to pay a normal fare to justify flights.

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    5. Anonymous12:10

      "Madrid Airport has noted that 18.300 passengers travelled between the Spanish and Serbian capitals in 2015 (indirectly), while there were over 64.300 Internet searches for tickets between the two."

      This proves the idiots saying there is no market to Madrid are totally wrong, direct flights would only stimulate demand. If JU was smart they'd launch it themselves.

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    6. Nemjee12:12

      The problem with Vueling is that their operations always fall apart once the busy period starts. Ladt year it wasn't uncommon for their flights to be late by two hours.

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    7. Anonymous12:26

      Same happened with TAP.

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    8. Anonymous12:35

      Putovao sam u januaru ove godine za Madrid Wizz Airom iz Budimpešte, povratna karta je bila oko 80e. Na tom letu je bilo bar 10 Srba, ili ljudi iz Srbije, isto tako i u povratku, s tim što smo čuli još ljudi i sa hrvatskim dijalektom. Iznenadili bi ste se koliko ljudi sa naseg podnevlja zivi ili radi u MAdridu. Tako da uvek navijam da se otvori bar jedan sedmicni let za Madrid.

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    9. Anonymous21:40

      navijas ti ali nema vas dovoljno 10 putnika dnevno nije dovoljno ni za autobus.

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  3. Nemjee09:04

    The more the merrier... fares will go down and passenger numbers up.

    So is MMX five weekly now? I remember before the fight with the airport it was six. I wonder if by next summer we might see daily flights to Malmo.

    Also, will be interesting to see if JU keeps its own Malta flights in winter since Wizz Air will.

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    1. Anonymous10:02

      Wizz should go much more head to head on routes with JU. They would crush JU and their monopoly fares. Would be very good for customers.

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    2. Nemjee12:08

      Maybe once Malmo is daily they will consider CPH. There are roughly 4,500 Serbs in Denmark.

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    3. Anonymous18:13

      Anon at 10.02am - they wouldn't crush JU or any other carrier at all. Their business model is based on flying to secondary airports - that's why they can offer cheaper fares. They already lost out to JU when they flew to Charleroi in Belgium.

      They compete head-on on 2 routes from BEG - Larnaca and now Malta. They are also not always cheaper than JU to Laranca.

      It wouldn't be too smart for them to take on JU to too many primary airports - they would not necessarily win that fight.

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    4. Anonymous20:01

      And which of the two airlines is doing (much) better on MLA and LCA routes?

      When there is competition it always lowers the price. But of course it will not mean that always the same airline has to "win". Ideally more than one airline serves the same destination otherwise again a monopoly can be created.

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    5. Nemjee20:51

      The real question is if the market is big enough to sustain two airlines? Wizz Air is constantly full to LCA (around 150 pax per flight) while JU is the exact opposite. This morning the flight arrived with one in business and about 60 in the back.

      Both airlines could survive in Cyprus if JU could get some more connecting passengers. However, when it comes to Malta both airlines will have to compete for the rather limited O&D market. That's the main difference between the two markets.
      In MLA JU has no other choice than to commit to the Maltese market so that it creates a loyal public that will fly with them no matter what. We will know more when they update their winter timetable and if MLA will be announced as a year-round destination.

      If they decide to make it a seasonal one then I sincerely hope they won't bother returning next summer.

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  4. Anonymous09:04

    Wizz Air's CEO said, "The airport charges are still high but the situation has changed. Over the last three years overall traffic has gone up 35%"

    Not if you believe the voices of experts on this forum. They will even go as far as to suggest that the numbers are incorrect.

    Anyway good luck Wizz. Hope they add more destinations in the future.

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  5. Anonymous09:07

    It's interesting about those airports in northern Italy looking for BEG flights. I remember Kondic from JU said once how there is demand for cities in northern Italy. Why is that? Serbia diaspora living there?

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    1. Anonymous09:18

      Yes, the Serbian diaspora is biggest in the north. Some 40,000 Serbs live in northern Italy.

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    2. Anonymous09:20

      Bordeaux in France seems odd though.

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    3. Anonymous09:39

      Yeah that's interesting. Most Serbs in France live in the east of the country, with exception to Paris of course. But I guess the airport is looking for a line based on some stats so who knows.

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    4. Anonymous09:44

      We need someone living in France to explain :D

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    5. Anonymous10:34

      Bordeaux and not Lyon? That's strange

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  6. Anonymous09:09

    They are finally growing again from Belgrade. Nice!

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  7. Anonymous09:11

    BEG handled 416.322 passengers last year in May, could we maybe expect close to 450.000 with Wizz Air, Transavia, New York, Atlasjet and the Israelis?

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    1. Anonymous09:14

      There should be growth. I am not sure if it will be massive because Easter was in April instead of May like last year.

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    2. Anonymous09:39

      Last year the airport saw 3% growth so Easter didn't impact them as much as one would expect.

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  8. Anonymous09:14

    Great news for Serbian consumers. Not such great news for Air Serbia.

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    1. Anonymous09:47

      Next Wizz should try Bratislava from BEG and attack the Austrian/Air Serbia monopoly and the woeful equipment both of them send on these flights most of the time.

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    2. Anonymous09:54

      Last time an airline tried that (Niki) they failed big time. Back then Austrian/Jat jointly slashed prices on the route and squeezed them out. But you are right. They do work together as monopolists on this route.

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    3. Anonymous10:02

      What's wrong with OS' Embraer? Also, in summer the afternoon flight is almost alwys on the Airbus.

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  9. Anonymous09:20

    Typical Wizz. Gastarbeiter routes.

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    1. Anonymous09:22

      Gastarbeiter routes generate profit for the airline and to the airport. Nothing wrong with that.

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    2. Anonymous09:23

      ja the most impacted will be the BUS providers. The fares are the same if you go by bus or wizz.

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    3. Anonymous09:58

      But in busses people bring like 5-6 big bags of 40+ kilograms, so I'm sure that bus won't be much affected

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    4. Anonymous11:03

      didn´t know Serbs are also nomads :D

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    5. Better to be gastarbeiter, then to be
      unemployed in Otazbina Serbi. Sorry Anon 9:20 AM. Letim srecno od kraja sesdesetih. Sada i kao penzioner, izmedju nove Domovine i mesta rodjenja, moje Otadzbine. Lako je Vama Anon 9:20. Vi mozete leteti i poslovnom klasom, jer verujem niste jadni gastarbeiter, niti iseljenik. Leteli bi vi i prvom klasom, ali neznam ko leti iz Beograda sa prvom klasom. Mozda vi to iz Nisa cinite. Sacekaj te Moravu ili Ponikve. Mozda ce te biti u prvoj klasi. Vi dte tipicno bogat covek. Bar na jeziku. Ipak prezivecemo mi po svetu. Makar i pristojno kada drukcije nemoze. Lou kosteri su za nas sirotinju van Otadzbine. Blago Vama, dragi nas Anon 9:20 AM. Uzivajte u dolazecem letu.
      Pozdrav iz jesenjeg Sidneja. Rodney Marinkovic,
      Kings Park
      Sydney Australia

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  10. Anonymous09:21

    Malta before Spain? Ok....

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    1. Anonymous09:31

      Serbians are traditionally more oriented towards the middle east and Maghreb states, which is pretty obvious when looking at the destination and frequencies from BEG.

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    2. Anonymous09:34

      Are you serious? They chose Malta because Serbs are the biggest European group of people living there and the second biggest after the Philippines. Also because a lot of people go there on holiday.

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    3. Anonymous10:56

      Check your facts:

      Italians top the list (5,180), followed by workers from Britain (3,985), Bulgaria (2,044), Hungary (1,308), Romania (1,262), Spain (1,119) and Sweden (1,085).
      At 1,468, citizens of the Philippines top the third country nationals list, followed by Serbians (1,246).

      http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20161012/local/31500-foreign-workers-in-malta.627790

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    4. Anonymous20:06

      Just 1200! So much about that saga! Ridiculous- it's like the inhabitants of a village!!

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  11. Anonymous09:23

    Will Malta work in winter?

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    1. Anonymous09:25

      Cyprus in winter worked out just fine for them.

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    2. Nemjee09:38

      Cyprus is twice the size of Malta and W6 carries a great number of passengers from Timisoara region.

      If JU keeps its Malta flights then they might face difficulties especially since JU won't be able to rely on transfer passengers like they do in Cyprus.

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  12. Anonymous09:26

    Great news for BEG.

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    1. Anonymous11:56

      Yes! Bad news for ASL though.

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    2. Anonymous19:12

      So much bad news for JU and yet they keep on growing. How is that possible ?

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    3. Anonymous19:19

      Growing? They are cutting destinations, flights and are trying to lease out their A320s!

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    4. Anonymous19:55

      Sure they are .... year on year since 2013 they have grown their pax and cargo numbers. I'm sure when they announce their 2017 Q1 numbers we will see even more growth.

      As for leasing out their aircraft, they are looking to do so over the winter when demand drops off for them and every other airline. Other ex-yu airlines have announced similar plans to try to wet lease aircraft during the slower winter mths. So good move to cut costs and grow their LF's. Better to fly fuller and fewer aircraft than to fly more aircraft which are empty.

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  13. Anonymous09:28

    Any chance we could see Ryanair in Belgrade soon?

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    1. Anonymous09:31

      I doubt it. It's too expensive for them. I think they are happy with Nis.

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    2. Anonymous09:34

      Of course as soon as ASL eliminates its last flight due to using the aircraft somewhere else on a smarter route but by that time Wizz will definitively have the advantage.

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    3. Anonymous09:35

      They will eventually come, that's for sure, so for Wizz it's better to expand as much as possible before that happens.

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    4. Anonymous12:30

      Wizz's presence is not a problem for RYR. Look at SOF, 1 mio pax in 13 months, even when W6 has 7 aircraft based there.

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    5. Anonymous12:53

      That would be a disaster fot JU.

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    6. Anonymous20:25

      Just like it is for OU on the coast where they have been decimated

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  14. Anonymous09:43

    Hope one day we read such news for Sarajevo too. Good luck for them in Belgrade. They are really expanding in the region. Can't believe they will have 4th plane in Skoplje soon!

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    1. Anonymous09:49

      thank goodness for them. If they didn't take a chance on this region a few years ago we would still be flying with overpriced national airlines.

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  15. Anonymous09:43

    I like the cake in the photo :D

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  16. Anonymous09:44

    Bravo BEG! Although a big capital like you, needs much more LCC. I am also really hoping to see FR soon, even with 1 or 2 routes. The German and Swedish markets are basically covered with 6 + 3 routes in total.
    Also curious to see if they decide to base A321 to lower rates and compete with JU on busy routes.

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    1. Anonymous19:15

      Wish that ZAG would see the light of day and follow BEG's example by lowering the barrier for more LCCs to enter our market and give consumers more choice than we currently have

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  17. Anonymous09:51

    It would be interesting to know if the arrival of a third handler at BEG has anything to do with LCC expansion. Sky Partner took over handling from BEG airport of Wizz planes last year. They also handle Transavia in BEG. I assume they offer lower handling prices.

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    1. Anonymous19:58

      Don't understand why ZAG keeps monopoly on handling at airport with only 1 ground handler. They probably do that to keep out LCCs.

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  18. Anonymous09:55

    Bravo Srbija!

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    1. Anonymous12:27

      Bravo Srbija ! ! !

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    2. Anonymous13:09

      Rezultat

      Bravo Hrvatska : Bravo Srbija
      42:26

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  19. Anonymous09:55

    Does anyone know which routes has Wizz tried from BEG which have been suspended and didn't work out for them?

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    1. Anonymous10:03

      Chearleroi, Rome and Oslo.

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    2. Anonymous10:03

      So far Belgrade to Charleroi, Rome, Corfu, Rhodes and Sandefjord failed.

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    3. Anonymous10:04

      Italy seems a no go zone for LCCs from Serbia. Easyjet also failed on Belgrade-Milan route and so did Air One on Belgrade-Rome.

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    4. Anonymous10:07

      Small correction, Air One operated from Milan

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    5. Anonymous10:19

      actually, Rhodes and Corfu did well, but for some strange reason they offered only one weekly

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    6. Anonymous10:47

      Those flights were mostly bought by tour operators. Probably too long of a flight for very cheap fares to make a profit on the route.

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  20. Anonymous09:59

    OT:
    Danas u Zagreb dolazi prvi ovogodišnji Korean Air let iz Seoula i to A330-200 (HL8211)

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    1. Anonymous10:02

      Yes it was reported recently

      "Korean Air will resume its seasonal charters from Seoul on May 19 with its Airbus A330-200 aircraft. As was the case last year, a total of eleven flights will operate during the summer (May, June, September and October)."
      http://www.exyuaviation.com/2017/05/zagreb-airport-targets-three-million.html

      Good for spotters.

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    2. Anonymous10:09

      Hope they park it at the gate.

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    3. Anonymous10:19

      Bravo, ZAG!

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    4. Anonymous12:26

      Where is that Croat who always complains when there is a Serbian OT on a non Serbian topic.

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    5. Anonymous13:11

      43:26

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  21. Anonymous10:05

    And Brussels... I doubt WIZZ would not gain anything from that route.

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    1. Anonymous10:06

      They did fly to Charleroi once upon a time. But it didn't perform too well.

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  22. Anonymous10:06

    Any chance of them opening a base in Nis?

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    1. Anonymous10:20

      yes. but most likely next year

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    2. Anonymous11:02

      Hope so :) would be fantastic.

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  23. Anonymous10:28

    May is not going so well for JU. Currently operations -5%, passengers -6%.

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    1. Anonymous11:24

      No suprise. Their numbers will be down overall this year with all the flight cuts.

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    2. Anonymous11:52

      Any info about BEG's performance this month?

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    3. Anonymous13:01

      it will be an interesting month to see the effect of the cuts.

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    4. Anonymous16:19

      BEG will definitely be positive in May, but not so much as it was in April.

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    5. Petar16:57

      JU marketshare in BEG is going to be down considerably even though the May they are flying to JFK which they didn't last year.

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    6. Anonymous17:10

      Those claiming JU has a monopoly at BEG will be silenced.

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  24. Anonymous10:30

    All the best to Wizz on these routes. Wish them success so they will add more.

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  25. Anonymous10:45

    So after all that drama they are back under terms set by BEG airport which they complained so much about. Drama queens.

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  26. Anonymous11:16

    Congratulations BEG and Wizz. No doubt Wizz will be the new wings of Serbia. As JU announce flight reductions Wizz will continue to fill the void. Sad but true

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    1. Anonymous12:29

      New wings of Serbia. :-)

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  27. Anonymous11:26

    When they next plan to expand, what are the routes we could expect?

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    1. Anonymous11:37

      Barcelona, Bratislava and Vaxjo maybe.

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  28. Anonymous11:43

    Anyone know how bookings are gowing for the new routes?

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  29. Anonymous12:19

    OT: Are there still no news about Hainan's plans?

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    1. Anonymous12:28

      for two times now plans were postponed. Not so strange. Hainan likes to announce flights and than cancel them after several weeks of announcements (remember Zagreb, Zadar, Budapest, Bucharest...).

      It would be not strange if after all they will not start those flights. That is their standard practice. Don't know why, but that is fact.

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    2. Anonymous12:55

      I wrote here long time ago, it was only preelection news, nothing more...

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    3. Anonymous13:01

      Don't know about BEG, but PDV probably will get these flights. There are part of their proposal for the concession of the airport.

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    4. Anonymous13:05

      ^ same as in BEG. Part of their proposal for concession. Chinese PM confirmed the flights a few days ago so let's just wait.

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    5. Anonymous13:12

      everything is tight to the concessions. If they get it there will be flights :)

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    6. Anonymous13:15

      So, you want to say that all tender is charade, and that because of unimportant political route to China someone will give one billion deal on airport to Hainan?

      That would be so too expensive and one of most stupid move in the World.

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    7. Anonymous14:17

      PM/President said few days ago Government will support the airline. No reason to single out Hainan, so other long distance airlines like Emirates or Air Canada should ask for the same support to start new flights to Belgrade.

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    8. Anonymous14:56

      Čak se ne zna da li će biti iz Pekinga ili Šangaja, a i nije jasno da li će biti subvencionisana od strane Srbije jer je samo rečeno ovo:

      Vučić je rekao da je Vlada Srbije spremna da pomogne toj kompaniji

      http://www.rts.rs/page/stories/sr/story/9/politika/2736147/vucic-sa-premijerom-kine-li-kecangom.html

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    9. Anonymous15:40

      They should not be helping Hainan, but the local population who have other problems than a flight to China.

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    10. Anonymous16:30

      Ja vam sada kazem, a uskoro cete i vi to shvatiti. Nema nista od tih letova nazalost. Jer da ima nesto pozitivno sigurno bi se pohvalili gospoda politicari

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    11. Anonymous17:01

      Hainan is interested in getting 25% of Aegean shares.
      That would mean flights to ATH which possible could delay flights to BEG because of relative proximity and overlapping of the two markets.

      Just my 2 cents.

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    12. Anonymous17:33

      If China is not interested Vucic will find other intercontinental airline to subvent.

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    13. Anonymous17:52

      I suppose to Sao Tome and Principe !

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    14. Anonymous18:03

      Does anyone know why Hainan is suddenly interested in the region? They want to launch BEG, applied for PDV concession today and have big plans. This is quite weird.

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    15. Anonymous18:45

      Chines have tried to buy serveral german airports like HHN or Prchim which turned out to be a bubble. The German government withdrew because its all very unserious.

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    16. Anonymous19:40

      The rumours about Hainan and an investment in Aegean are growing. The airline even released a statement hinting that it was open to strategic investments in the near future. If Hainan does buy 25% of Aegean (whose stock is doing well now so it would most likely be on a premium), this could fund its approaching fleet investments for 2017 and possibly provide the capital to go long-haul, with China now seeming to be like its first destination. Below is the article that is circulating in Greece now about the possible deal.

      http://www.euro2day.gr/news/enterprises/article/1540165/psahnetai-gia-strathgikes-synergasies-h-aegean.html

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    17. Anonymous20:30

      If Google translate is correct Aegean biggest shareholders are going to Hainan's HQ in China to talk about this investment. Looks like things are moving fast.
      I have to say I didn't see that HNA group would make investments in European airlines. Good choice Aegean!

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    18. Nemjee20:44

      Well, Aegean has the know-how while Hainan has the money.

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    19. Anonymous00:21

      PEK-ATH-BEG routing?

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    20. Anonymous05:13

      Spunds good. It would definetely have better loads than a PEK-BEG route.

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    21. Nemjee08:52

      Actually, Air China already operates Athens via Munich which means that the Chinese government might not issue Hainan the rights. In other words, the route would be operated by Aegean.
      That said, I really don't know what feed they would have. Athens has a horrible geographical location to be a hub. It would have to rely on O&D passengers.

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  30. Anonymous12:23

    With Ryan expandig in Niš I think next we will see Wizz Air's response to that.

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  31. Anonymous12:24

    Let's see how Air Serbia with new concept will compete against a growing Wizz. My guess is not very well.

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    1. Anonymous20:05

      It was managing to grow with its current offering. Once it completes its transition, it will probably do better. Remember, Wizz flies to secondary airports unlike JU

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    2. Anonymous13:51

      And that is the only advantage...Wizz has become expensive, which is why we need Ryan.

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  32. Anonymous12:57

    Hoping for Charleroi as next dest.

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    1. Anonymous13:02

      will be great!

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    2. Anonymous18:01

      Sadly, Brussels never worked for BEG. Even JU reduced capacity. And CRL is literally connected to almost all Balkan cities.

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  33. Anonymous13:08

    100 comments and only 1pm in Europe :O

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    1. Anonymous20:46

      Ex-yu aviation slaying it lately :D

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  34. Anonymous13:09

    Well Kondic said Serbia will have a "flood" of LCCs coming. Hole they are ready!

    Imagine Norwegian opening a base in BEG.

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  35. Anonymous14:14

    "Novi avion predstavlja ulaganje Viz era u Srbiju od dodatnih 100 miliona dolara", avioni su u madjarskom registru i kao takvi ne prestavljaju nikakvo ulaganje u Srbiju.

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    1. Anonymous16:21

      +1000 Lazi i licemerje.

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    2. Anonymous17:19

      +1

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    3. Anonymous19:19

      Lease a new airplane for 6 months, base it somewhere and advertise as 100m investment. Even though it probably cost you less than a million in the end.

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    4. Anonymous20:19

      100 million and 36 jobs, doesn't something sounds fishy? I'm tired of their retarded rhetoric.

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    5. Anonymous20:28

      if they paid 100M for that aircraft, they are seriously bad businessman.

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    6. Nemjee20:43

      No, it's a trick out of FR's book. Basically they calculate it based on an estimate of how many people they will hire, how many tourists the plane will bring, how much in taxes they will pay...

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  36. Anonymous14:31

    Friedrichshafen? Such a weird destination.

    That's where the money is for Wizz?

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    1. Anonymous14:38

      Look at the map... It's right next to Zurich

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  37. Anonymous14:42

    Thanks for the video ex-yu. That's a good close up.

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  38. Anonymous14:48

    Wizz conveniently avoids getting approvals to base aircraft at BEG. Wizz does not have required AOC in Serbia. Authorities can conveniently flip the switch on Wizz and force them to move those two planes out of BEG.

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    1. Anonymous15:58

      Why should they do that, what for ?

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    2. Anonymous17:00

      Canada announced financial support for Bombardier. Boeing compains about Bombardier C-Series dumping pricing. Canada will review Boeing military contracts. Why should they do that, what for?

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    3. Anonymous19:17

      Oh please explain us why Wizz would need a Serbian AOC to have an airplane based in BEG and why Serbian CAA is so generous to allow them to disregard this?

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    4. Anonymous20:42

      Because of Serbian law? Why do you think YM was kicked out?

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    5. Anonymous20:44

      YM is different because it is a non EU airline.

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    6. Anonymous00:18

      Because of corruption?

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    7. Anonymous08:48

      Wizz was allowed to set up a base for political reasons but given how much good they have done no one dares to revoke their licence. Without them we would be paying €400 to fly on Air Serbia to pretty much anywhere.

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    8. Anonymous03:47

      Wizz did no good. They have no license.

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  39. Anonymous15:39

    So BEG is currently connected to 13 German airports 12+1 cargo!! DTM, HAJ, MUC, FKB, FRA, FDH, FMM, NUE, STR, HAM, DUS, TXL and CGN cargo. This is really crazy, isnt it?

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    1. Anonymous16:53

      EK must be jealous!

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    2. Anonymous15:38

      I am sure they are

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  40. Anonymous15:58

    W6 JU

    DTM=DUS
    HAJ=HAM
    FKB=STR
    FDH=ZRH/BSL
    FMM/NUE=MUC

    Shows how WIZZ is attacking Air Serbia with much lower costs.

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    1. Anonymous16:04

      Interesting point, thanks for sharing. So, the only 2 airports I can think of are NRN=DTM/CGN currently served from INI and HHN=FRA.

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    2. Anonymous16:51

      JU doesn't serve MUC :)

      Other than destination airport fees, where did you get the lower costs for W6 over JU? :)

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    3. Anonymous17:06

      Anon I would say that W6 has lower costs than JU because it sells tickets for a cheaper price but it is greatly profitable.

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    4. Anonymous17:16

      W6 was also cheap(er) in 2005, 2006, 2007 etc but was greatly not profitable. Any other arument for me to shoot it down?

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    5. Nemjee19:02

      They also attacked them in both Larnaca and Malta, two destinations that were previously served by Jat/Air Serbia.
      Even though JU was butchered in LCA I think they actually stand a chance in Malta.

      That said, seems like JU and W6 have created a nice summer duopoly on BEG-LCA, both charge the same amount in July and August (31.600 RSD!)

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    6. Anonymous19:03

      You only shot your own foot down!
      Reality shows that W6 is cheaper than JU but at the same time is highly profitable.
      In fact it has Europe's second highest profit margin after FR!
      And all that without getting debts written off by government.

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    7. Anonymous19:06

      Comment 7:03 refers to Anon 5:16

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    8. Anonymous00:17

      @Anon at 7:03 Still not a cost in sight. W6 cost structure is not that hard to figure out, well except for you. You can't fix stupid.

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    9. Anonymous05:18

      W6 low costs allow it to charge less and be profitable.
      I understand it is upseting but try to eat a second sandwich and shut up.
      You are embarasing yourself boy!

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    10. Anonymous05:57

      Nope, I am not a bot. You don't even understand Wizz costs. Repeating over and over that W6 costs are "lower" does not make it true without actual numbers, and you clearly don't have them. If you are going to support Wizz here you should at least know how they actually work, otherwise you are just a bot for W6.

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    11. Anonymous08:46

      So why don't you do what you are accusing him of not doing? If you are claiming that he is wrong then provide us with the numbers otherwise you are speculating just like he is doing.

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    12. Anonymous09:19

      Looking for an easy way out by switching things around? No way, it is up to him to prove it.

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  41. Anonymous23:48

    Svakako je dobro sto ce BEG dobiti dodatne letove ali bi bilo odlicno kad bi druge LCC i legacy aviokompanije povecali jos letova.
    INN-NS

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    1. Anonymous08:44

      Pa i jesu, Transavia je uspostavila letove ka Beogradu a easyJet je povecao GVA-BEG sa 2 na 3.

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