From what I heard APB is leaving next.

YU-APB/APD

Thank you!

I think one of those is Goran Bregovic.

Good riddence. Lol

Why can't they name the smaller planes after mountains or rivers in Serbia? This whole "living legends" exercise was so cringeworthy. The widebodies are fine with the names of our historic greats, but the narrowbody fleet names are really cringey. I'm so happy when one of those gets retired.

We need A321's.

Do we? For what?

For routes like TGD, FRA, ZRH, LHR, CDG, ATH, LCA, FCO, SVO.

Isn't second daily FRA mostly operated by E190s?

TGD still sees ATR's, at times 2 out of 3 departures like today. TGD will soon be open 24 hours so expect a 4th daily here.

FRA is almost always on the E-jets, mostly the smaller E190.

ZRH is a mix in capacity where they compete with LX for frequencies.

LHR is almost exclusively on the A319. The extra 2 seasonal flights typically go on the E-jets since their introduction into the fleet.

CDG needs more frequencies not capacity.

ATH which will soon go 3 daily will see more E-jets and better connectivity to their long haul network. The midnight ATH rotation is no stranger to the ATR.

FCO is missing more frequencies not capacity, same for LCA.

SVO is mostly on the A319.

JU doesn't need to A321.

+1
Svaka ka' u Njegoša!

They can always lower the price and fill larger plane. One or two A321 wouldn’t hurt anyone. They could also be used for charters

Why would they lower their prices and hurt their profitability? To get an A321? Then they can get an A380 too and sell 1 euro tickets on it. You might have read that charters have had a big decline in numbers in 2025.

If You follow that logic, Cessna citation is perfect match to have 100% load factor.Use calculator, simple math

Lower price on more efficient plane doesn't necessary mean lower profit. And also lower price is good to suppress competition

You can only lower the price soo much before you make the decision whether it's worth it or not. At the end of the day, JU replaced 4 wet lease A320's for 3 dry leases - not even a 1 for 1 replacement. Its very clear that they need frequencies and not extra capacity per flight. For example, the moment the E-jets entered the fleet FRA went from daily to double daily. And there is more examples of this and more to come.

14:20 - Today 2/3 flights to SVO A320.

Tomorrow all three flights are A320.

What are you smoking?

00:07

I wrote that 1-3 A321 could be useful, not whole fleet and not for all routes. SVO and LED are good examples. Lowering tickets for 5-10% could easily fill A321 where extra profit could be made every day. I would personally terminate FRA and stop feed LH

Aviation does not work that way. And JU's flights to Frankfurt are not feeding LH. My goodness.

If you need to reduce prices by 10% to 15%, which is significant, in order to fill a plane that does not suit you, why on earth would you get that plane in the first place. Think before writing people.

Won't hurt to get 2 A321s. It could come in useful for summer charters too. But, finding ones in good condition and with fair leasing terms seems hard at the moment.

I guess you missed this

"a roughly 15% decline in charter passengers, The impact has been felt primarily in our home market. The question remains whether people in Serbia travelled less overall, or whether this was influenced by broader factors such as geopolitical developments, including reduced demand for Egypt due to the situation in the region, as well as higher prices in destinations such as Turkey. There are several elements at play”.
https://www.exyuaviation.com/2025/12/air-serbia-maintains-profitability-as.html

And you want them to get an A321 for charters.

Regional jets should have been the backbone of JU's shorthaul fleet from the start.

E195 is too small for 320

Who got bankrupt?

Braathens, Smartlynx, Play

Very cold winter for ACMI operators :/

Could it be possible for 2027 for Air Serbia maybe to finally get a NEO? From all the available in the market

Since they are getting over 10 years old, except in next 5 years a320neo on lease market and then eventually in JU fleet. Nobody cares for NEO, if your ticket is getting more expensive ;).

Finally. They also already announced new routes for next winter.

Fleet planning finally looks conservative and disciplined. A big change from earlier years.

That’s unusually organised.

Bankrupcies of several airlines do not really lower the price of aircraft leasing. When repossessing the previously leased aircrafts, the leasing companies have their own price list and a list of many other airlines eager to lease them.
Of course, if a bankrupt airline owned the aircrafts, they may sell them to whoever is interested or trade them to leasing companies.
Landing at the Souvarnabhumi airport in Bangkok, October 2026, I could see 4 Airbus A380 super jumbos in a decayed state (paint, insignia, faded), not in service. Thai Airways owned 6 of them, managed to sell only two of six over last 5 years.

You obviously don't understand that when an airline goes bankrupt, many aircraft appear on the market.

I have heard that 10 pilots from Smartlynx are joining JU. Not sure if it is true.

That is very good to hear

No, no!
Pilots are only leaving JU and nobody is joining.
At least that's what we have been listening here.

@9.11 so these will be non-Serbian pilots? Interesting

Malovic is still here, just he is not cordinator any more. He’s back to flying

Anon 09.19
What a stupid comment. Yes, they were leaving and that is why JU had to cut their flights TWICE in the last 6 months.
Since Malovic was replaced the situation has improved. And no, in that time pilots were not joining, they were only leaving. They still are but not as much. So please check some facts before posting pointless comments.

Ten pilots are joining the fleet from Smartlynx.

10:05
Same old you with same old fairytales. You just changed a little bit: Now Malovic was the problem, while back in the days were salaries and bonuses… No flights are cut or cancelled due to crew shortages.

hahahahahahah yeah JU cut destinations this winter for fun. Is that why CDG is reduced to 14 even next summer? Is that why many destinations lost frequencies after NY? It's because they don't have enough pilots. So spare us your nonsense which has no link to reality or facts. Unless you are saying they cut CDG/BCN... because flights were empty?

I am not changing anything, I said that the situation is a bit better, not that it is fantastic. People are still leaving though not as much as before but they are still leaving. JU is still offering less money than their competition. A pilot at JU earns around €7.500 which is fantastic for Serbia but much less than Wizz Air, Emirates, Qatar etc.

A 'pilot' or a captain, who earns 7.500 €?

Frequencies are adjusted to demand of course, no matter how you are trying to spin. And yes, it usually happens in slowest time of the year, middle of winter. Many companies are doing that. Even if they are lacking crews, which is obviously not true, they would add more wetleases to cover the demand. Those are the facts.

Stop spreading the lies, as JU have not cut any flights or rotations bcs of the crew shortage. Hardly online left JU ( except 11 flight attendees) if my math is not that bad. You can tell me by initials some captain that left the company, as I am super curious to hear what you come up with .

Of course he will not reply as he only spread lies.
And, btw..JU decided to add new destinations this year as they do not have enough pilots.
Sure.

10:39

hohoho... You explained clearly. They are cutting winter timetable which is a lot thinner than summer due to crew shortage, but they already had full summer record season competed without any disruptions and next summer planned with a lot more frequencies and new destinations. Very logical in your dreamland.

Unless flight crews and in particular pilots increase considerably wet leases are here to stay.

Wet leases will be in JU at least another 2 years. My guess is that the Bulgarian E190's will be the first to go once around 10 E195's are in the fleet.

Yeo years? Good luck with that. In order for JU to get rid of entire wet lease crews (pilots), they would need additional 70-80 new hired and fully trained pilots. That just under 30% of current pilot levels. Good luck with that! Wet leases are here to stay for a long time! Whether we like that or not, is another subject.

At least it’s not permanent, as in OU plans

Surely wetleases will stay until the end of summer '27 due to huge Expo peak. And probably it will be at least doubled next year.

That's my understanding too. Hopefully the load factor will increase noticeably.

Three planes are leaving, five are coming, so it's a growth

Makes sense when they can't deploy profitably al of the widebodies already in place .

Of course. Market conditions change and it is logical that your strategy makes shifts.

Operating costs almost the same as A320, with much less payload and pax.

Makes sense only on short long-haul routes such as Abu Dhabi or central Asia maybe.

Plus there are A220s, E95s and E2s which have better economics and almost the same number of seats.

The 319 made sense from the 90' up to 2015 when it was not anymore in demand.
From an Airbus doc only 8 A319Neo were ordered compared to thousands of 320Neo and 321Neo.
That's the reason Airbus has taken over the Cseries to keep its presence in the under 150 seats segment.
The 319 was an excellent module but market and newcomers made it obsolete and uneconomical

Ваистину се роди и свако добро!

What is there to change? They finalised the ATR fleet renewal and expansion early last year.

You are forgetting ATRs.

+1

Good choice to get ex Aegean aircraft and in general aircraft that were exclusively flown and maintained from reputable carriers.

Yes, I'm hoping that too :D I managed to get one from the ATR

Two days ago all 3 A330s were also flying, keeping in mind that one is in maintenance. If they had three and one was in maintenance they would have had to cancel something.

Now when you mentioned this summer schedule, few of my friends from Toronto already told me that they wouldn't fly with Air Serbia 'cause they are loosing whole day..Most of the people work Monday-Friday, and plane departs YYZ on saturday late evening..AS should've put 1 flight of friday, 1 on sunday..Since they have so many aircraft , they could've aranged it better

Love it when airline tycoon players give their expert opinions. You don't think there are such constraints as slots, crew availability etc. Of course not.

Well, it is possible, slots are problem..Anyway, I'm just passing the words of few people from Toronto..Lets see when summer comes, what's gonna happen...Knowing a lot of our people from Canada, and how stingy they are, personally think that if AS doesn't offer lower fares, planes won't be that full as expected..

Tuesdays and Saturdays are usually least busy days in aviation and with most available slots.

14:28

When your friends calculate layover few hours, they will arrive about the same time at BEG. So, that should not be a problem

Love the experts on here 😂

@15:38 "Knowing a lot of our people from Canada, and how stingy they are"

You really just told us you are not part of the wealthy crowd. Some people fly private jets, some business class all the time, but not you and your friends. Don't make uninformed conclusions.

The argument about the departure on Saturday is defendable.
Departing Saturday evening you arrive in BEG Sunday morning, if you have to catch a flight to SKP, TIA,...you will arrive at your final destination Sunday around 3pm or Monday at 2 am shall you have to take the night one.
Departing Friday night and flying through a main hub you can reach your destination by Saturday early afternoon.....you get one more weekend "at home"

31+8

Thank you. Forty aircraft operating JU flights is all but certain for 2027.

What 17+ year old aircraft have JU taken on in the past few years? A little common sense answers the question.

@00:12 Which aircraft that are mid aged has aegen put back into the market?

Would be nice