NEWS FLASH
Swiss International Air Lines will increase frequencies between Zurich and Ljubljana to twelve weekly rotations this upcoming winter season, which begins on October 29. The carrier will run two daily flights between the two cities Mondays through to Fridays, with one daily service on the weekends. Over the duration of the winter season, which runs until March 30 of next year, 55 flights will be operated by Helvetic Airways on Swiss’ behalf with its mix of Embraer E190 and E195-E2 aircraft, 41 flights will be run by Edelweiss Air with its Airbus A320 jets, while fourteen services are scheduled to be operated by airBaltic and its A220-300 aircraft on Swiss’ behalf. Swiss itself will perform 126 flights. Overall, this winter season, there will be 69.046 seats on the route (both outbound and inbound combined). This is just above the 68.565 seats Adria Airways had on the route during the last full winter season prior to the pandemic (2018/19).
1,5 in 2023 ? With this new frequency, and other also new routes.
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DeleteHow's Edelweiss compared to Swiss?
ReplyDeleteThe capacity and frequencies are greater than in the summer months which is indicative of Swiss underestimating Ljubljana - good for LJU!
Swiss is better than Edelweiss.
Delete10:40 neither Swiss nor Edelweiß you have tried ….. that what you are telling is mumpitz
DeleteI live in CH, and can confirm what Anon said @ 10.40. Swiss is much better than Edelweiss
DeleteOnboard product on Edelweiss is much better, at least you get a snack and free drinks. On Swiss it's water and a tiny chocolate.
DeleteThe WK crew is few times better than the LX crew
Delete11:11 if you live in CH, you should know that edelweiss is a leisure airline in contrast to LX and therefore not comparable
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I really like Edelweiss, onboard product is better than Swiss, however I don’t know if it is the same when they are flying exclusively for Swiss. Is in that case the chocolate-water service?
DeleteI flew Edelweiss in Europe once and they were fantastic but it was through an operator, not LX.
DeleteLX is in reality an overpriced trash. Service like LCC.
I can't understand these comments. Swiss is one of the best airlines I have ever flown with.... My last trip was ZRH-SJJ with the A220-300. The plane is very good and quiet, the service was also at the level. Far from LCC….
DeleteAnd what year was that because since covid hit LH Group has gone full LCC in terms of onboard product. Maybe you can't understand the comments because you have not flown with LX in a while.
DeleteAnon 15:18 Pharmaceutical products 94%
DeleteIt's always a Swiss flight, just sometimes it is a wetlease operated by Edelweiss, Air Baltic or Helvetic, therefore you always get the exact same Swiss product. E.g. no catering like on a real Edelweiss flight, just Swiss chocolate and water like on Swiss.
DeleteWas flying on Tuesday, it was full.
ReplyDeleteMakes sense since CH has lately become SLO’s largest export market, overtaking DE.
DeleteWhat are they exporting there?
Deletepharmaceutical products…
DeleteAnon 13.43. Just on paper by statistic. Novartis pushing numbers up.
DeleteCould they go double daily next summer? And maybe do a morning departure, similar to Lufthansa operations?
ReplyDeleteProbably they will
DeleteLufthansa will have double daily to Munich and triple daily to Frankfurt
Deletewhy was my comment deleted? It was a simple observation that none of this flights are operated by Swiss itself?
ReplyDelete"Swiss itself will perform 126 flights."
DeleteActually, you are right. My bad
DeleteSwiss in LJU is quite literally unstoppable.
ReplyDeleteIdemo Slovenija!
ReplyDeleteWhat are currently their frequencies in SJJ? Will be goode to see more flights after Wizz Air bullshit in TZL and SJJ.
ReplyDeleteFünf malle an wo woche
DeleteBravo Hrvatska!!! Bravo Kradeze!!! During the "communist darkness" Swissair used to fly daily to ZAG minimum on MD80, on A310 as well for a period of time, flight which was initially ZRH-ZAG-BEG was later split so there were separate daily flights to both BEG and ZAG. And in addition to that, JAT also operated daily BEG-ZRH and daily ZAG-ZRH on DC-9/B737-300. Plus 3 weekly LJU-ZRH. And look today Swiss operations to BEG and LJU and total absence from ZAG, even with incompetent OU flying half empty Q400 on the route. Bravo once again!!!
ReplyDeleteOh, btw, Swiss will start flying to Kosice and Cluj, former Soviet block countries secondary provincial airports, firmly and safely staying away from "prestigious" capital of Croatia
DeleteMaybe OU is encouraging them to stay away from ZAG? In LJU there is no more JP and in BEG they have to fly to fight JU.
DeleteEncouraging them to stay away from ZAG? For what? For winter season ZRH-LJU will see almost 70.000 seats while ZRH-ZAG will see just above 46.000. Considering how "big" and how many tourists ZAG has according to Analitičar there should be way more seats on sale.
DeleteYes but OU doesn't have the planes to add more and for them it is better for LX to stay away. They don't need competition. If LX doesn't fly to LJU then AF and KL will take more passengers and they don't want that.
DeleteAF and KL are not very strong in ZAG. KL even reduced capacity in summer and AF did not bring back extra frequencies.
But the yoghurt, bwaahh ..!
DeleteRJK man why would LX fly to ZAG when OU can't fill a turboprop to ZRH?
DeleteSays everything about the demand on this route
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DeleteBecause Croatia Airlines has zero connections to offer behind ZAG, and Swiss has entire World to offer behind ZRH
Why don't they open ZAG then? 🤣
DeleteBecause it is reserved for Lufthansa to fill their planes in Minken and Vrankvurt. And look the miracle, they owe Swiss as well!!!
DeleteI mentioned higher ZRH capacity than in the period when Adria was still fully functional and JP fans were offended. With the exact data it is clear now. Like that LX is the one from LH group that pays more attention to LJU, prefer them over LH.
ReplyDeleteExactly! Many people here think that we are still in the time when the airport served Macedonians and Albanians. The truth is, traffic is now approaching pre-pandemic levels and p2p is almost back.
DeleteAlso many links returned. For example, AirBaltic will have a very good opportunity to transfer to the Scandinavian countries.
DeleteAnon@12:48 you intentionally spread lies or you just have NO CLUE what transfer pax relevance was at LJU????
DeleteTell me, then, what is missing from Ljubljana? Most flights are now operated with larger aircraft rather than the CRJ-900 as before. That is, it has almost reached pre-pandemic levels. What are these transfers for in this fast growing European market? Tirana has long been very developed and you no longer need transfers.
DeleteAnon 13:39, ignore him; he is spreading those lies under every article, even if he is confronted by data showing totally opposite. There are almost no routes fully recovered in terms of schedule and frequency, even if you deduct all transfer passengers. We all know that. Overall still -40% down from 2018, the last normal year.
DeleteOnce again, you can fly with A380 but if timetable sucks that does not help you much. When there will be morning outbound and evening inbound flight than we can say that route is restored. Until then, LJU will be still behind every airport in EU.
DeleteSkopje had direct flights to Zurich every day with A321 when JP was still flying. I dont know for which transfer pax on the route to ZRH you are talking.
DeleteI can tell you what is missing from LJU. All the leisure routes that is FR flying from ZAG are missing! (Here I am not talking about routes like Hahn and Memmingen, althugh they could maybe also work)
DeleteThere will be no morning outbound and evening inbound flights as they were. So yes, the routs will not be restored the same way they were, but that doesn’t mean that the routs are not restored. The route dynamics will never be as it was with JP, never, since it is not sustainable.
DeleteI Worked in a position on the reservation system between 2020 and 2023. I can tell you that p2p is at 80% as of 2019. Next year is likely to see an almost complete recovery and connection of the country.
DeleteAnd yes we have p2p resumption
ReplyDeleteStill far from it, unfortunately: approx. -25% not counting transfer pax.
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