Low cost terminal for Sarajevo
Sarajevo Airport intends to open a dedicated terminal for low cost airlines later this year. The building (pictured above) is presently being used by the airport’s management, which will move to its new headquarters later on this year and, as a result, vacate facilities for low cost airlines. The no frills terminal will be located next to the current passenger building (to be known as Terminal 2). Thus, Sarajevo Airport hopes to attract new low cost carries and boost passenger numbers, since services offered to airlines at the terminal will be cheaper than those currently provided. Pegasus Airlines is the only low cost airline operating flights to the Bosnian capital, while hybrids Norwegian Air Shuttle and Germanwings also serve Sarajevo.
The low cost terminal will be connected to the current passenger building. The airport’s management will move to its new location at the end of next month, after which work on adapting the building for no frills airlines will begin. In addition, Sarajevo Airport has announced plans to feature a prayer room for passengers. “We have had several requests for a prayer room, so we will look into opening one at Terminal 1 (low cost terminal) when we see how much room we have left”, the airport’s CEO, Ivica Veličan, says.
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| Location of Sarajevo Airport's low cost terminal |
Sarajevo Airport has been in talks with Wizz Air to launch flights to the Bosnian capital for several years now. Negotiations have been going on and off since late 2011. Early last year, Mr. Veličan warned that slashing handling prices for Wizz Air would cause a “domino effect” which would force it to reduce taxes for other airline operating to Sarajevo as well. However, late last year talks were said to be back on. In January the CEO of the Dutch based low cost airline Transavia, Roy Scheerder, said the airline is considering launching flights from Amsterdam to Sarajevo. However, if the Air France - KLM subsidiary does launch flights to the Bosnian capital, it won’t do so before 2015. It remains to be seen whether the low cost terminal will attract new customers.
A prayer room and a betting booth. What other absurd thing will they add to this airport?
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Deletestrip club next to the prayer room ;)
DeleteBetting booth at the middle of an aiprort?!
DeleteAnd look at the comments
https://www.facebook.com/SarajevoAirport/photos/a.157219244408251.33649.148186491978193/407096469420526/?type=1&relevant_count=1
Balkane moj.
Will you please tell me at least one objective reason why is praying room absurd?
DeleteI don't think he meant prayer room was absurd... but anyway...
DeleteTo be fair, Heathrow features Ladbrokes (its a UK betting shop...one of the largest), most airports have fruit and poker machines...
Yes it would be nicer if it was a bakery or something but it seems airport operators are not allergic to "betting" money anywhere in Europe.
P.S. I would still prefer a booth version of Spearmint Rhino ;)
Las Vegas McCarran airport (LAS) has slot machines all over the terminal, just steps from boarding gates. Vegas baby!
DeleteDoes Sarajevo has low cost flights?
ReplyDeleteIt says in the article. Only Pegasus
DeleteAnd Norwegian and Germanwings.
DeleteIt is not true that Sarajevo will be first airport in exYU to have prayer room. Zagreb has it for 3 year now.
ReplyDeleteI thought that PRN or SKP also already have one.
DeleteOT: American civil aviation inspects Serbian civil aviation structures the upcoming week. Whether they are satisfied with it,, Serbia would be allowed transatlantic flights in April, and Air Serbia might lease at least two airbus A330s to serve JFK, ORD and YYZ directly from BEG. In an optimistic scenario, these flights would start October this year.
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In optimistic scenario I will drive Rolls Royce this October.
DeleteBilo bi dobro kad bi uzeli dva A-321-200 na Lizing.
DeleteI hate to be on saying this but Sarajevo Airports is ruled by politically placed individuals. Scandal broke out when Airport tried to purchase private jet for FBIH government. That was the main reason Velican was placed on this position by Zlatko Lagumdzija.
ReplyDeleteMr. Velican, who previously was a high-school-educated ground staff obtained MA degree overnight at age of 60 ( or so ) and lead this Airport with his miserable decisions.
Before he overtook the CEO position airport had a surplus of 2 mil. euros on its account. Today the same figure appears just with a minus in front of it. Best sign what kind of a joke this airport became is the fact that he is charging his employees for parking while they are working.
He has placed his son Darijan Velican, who was charged for cargo center robbery few years ago, on a high position in the airport.
He stopped IPA project of terminal expansion even thou money was deposited by EU to finance this move.
Beside employing his son, he did the same thing with the rest of his family members or members of his lover family. In that manner he employed Matej Krpan (Bijeljina university graduate) without him satisfing any of requirements for current position. Probably reason can be found in his mother (Croatia Airlines) that Velican shared office and much more with.
Figures that Ex-Yu and other portal are showing regarding the growth are just figures created by the airport in order to wash their hands. It is not true that they have made any kind of growth. They have managed to stop British Airways, Air France and many from operating to SJJ.
Interesting and thanks for that. EX-YU wrote about some of that stuff last Saturday. Really corrupt.
Deletehttp://exyuaviation.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2014-03-19T09:00:00%2B01:00&max-results=4
DeleteI hope justice will come to BH aviation. I can confirm you all of these information and many more.
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http://www.airplanes.se/?script_name=bild&bild=15657
YU-APH
http://www.airplanes.se/?script_name=bild&bild=15648
YU-APG
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7385/13307309675_5edb481c37_b.jpg
Interesting how YU-APH was photographed 11 days ago. Hopefully it will arrive to Belgrade sooner rather than later. The B737-300 is a wonderful aircraft but I fear it can no longer match the passenger experience of the new Airbus birds.
DeleteI kad bi uzeli na Lizing jedan A321-200 bilo bi dobro.
DeleteFor those interested: for the past week i've been in touch with several people, heads of different departments in Air Serbia, where, together with a close person who works there, i've been trying to enforce a new version of the ID badges worn by Air Serbia ground employees and FA's (at the moment when ~300 new ones have to be ordered), that would include both the Serbian Cyrillic and International version in Latin (instead of the screwed "Serbian-latin" one that can't be read/pronounced properly in English). Here is the example of some of the formats.
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All of the proposals were rejected, by all but one member of STV-SDT department and by the person from Etihad in charge of the corresponding sector, who all insisted that the only possible version was the "Serbian-Latin" one (prolonging the Jat Airways tradition), which is neither the official alphabet of Serbia nor internationally readable, unlike most of Serbs think. (Mostly by laziness, ignorance or simply lack of interest if you permit.) Ironically, the same international format that i proposed is the one used officially by Etihad Airways. I wanted you to be informed.
Have a nice weekend of spring.
I stopped reading when you said that Latin is not one of official alphabets of Serbia. What you propose looks like Russian.
DeleteUnfortunately it's almost as equal as the Latin one, according to our constitution. To be frank, we got rid of Yugoslavia (and the ideas that came with its creation) it's about time to get rid of the Latin alphabet. After all, if some other nationalities refused to use the Cyrillic one I do not see why we should use the Latin one.
DeleteBecause it's an advantage to know how to read and write both alphabets and something to be proud of. If others choose to be primitive that's their problem
DeleteAre you saying that if we got rid of the Latin one we would not know how to read it? I am sure that the Bulgarians, Russians... as well as the Greeks are primitive, according to your comment.
DeleteAerologic what you sugested is scandalous! Serbian language is writen by both Cyrilic and Latin alphabet. English transcription is used in Russian language but never in Serbian.
DeleteWhy is the use of Cyrillic scandalous? I would like to know, especially since it looks much nicer than the Latin one.
DeleteTo be fully honest, I am very glad your proposal did not get accepted. Serbian language, according to our constitution, can be written in both Cyrillic and Latin letters. On the other hand English transcription of Cyrillic names is never used in Serbian language due to the fact we have OFFICIAL latin letters. Official transcription of Serbian names in Latin can be found in out passports, end of story.
Deletedual letters are an advantage of Serbian language and should remain that way.
btw, my mother STW got a normal Air Serbia ID. luckily her name is Tatjana not Tatyana :)
Every constitution Serbia had since 1945 was a disaster, including the Latin alphabet. They are not equal, the Cyrillic one must be used in all official documents and in all government institutions. Air Serbia being owned 51% by the government should be required to use Cyrillic.
DeleteFor your information, your mother's name is a sound and not a specific set of letters, that can therefore be written in any alphabet as long as it matches the sound in the mind of those who read it, let me teach you that as a professional translator.
DeleteSo if you prefer her to be called Татжана by foreigners instead of Татјана that's your problem. I don't know how long you will rejoice, i should be meeting Mr. Kondic in a week or so and i think of forwarding this proposal in front of him, the given persons didn't have the authority anyway to give the ultimate word on such things, hence their tendency to conform to the existing format.
I do not understand why some people are getting so annoyed by what you are proposing. Greeks are doing the same thing with both names and surnames.
DeleteBecause they're afraid of loosing some of their Western identity.
DeleteThey're afraid they'll look less look fancy in the eyes of the West.
DeleteLess fancy? Serbia shouldn't worry about that, the West just doesn't find you fancy ;))
DeleteThis is stupid argument Cyrillic vs Latin ... both have been used in Serbia for a long time. You should be happy you are all able to read and right in both.
DeleteSome one suggested we should stop teaching kids Latin in school now as we are not Yugoslavia any more... DO YOU READ WHAT YOU WRITE BEFORE YOU PRESS PUBLISH BUTTON??
...stop giving kids more knowledge and more opportunities....aghhhh, its beyonde me, sorry
Aerologic, thank you for your post, I love reading your comments here! Oh boy, did you just open a can of worms there! I am not a linguist but can tell you this issue should have been resolved in Serbia long time ago. It seems Air Serbia will have to be a trailblazer here because of a practical need.
DeleteAs someone already mentioned in the comments, traditionally Serbian names are not phonetically transcribed in English unlike Russian names. It’s just a tradition, as Serbian names are equally written in Latin. I do agree with your point (and comments from your slide) that would cause pronunciation issues in English, but it keep in mind it might not cause issues in many other Slavic or even other languages such as Germanic languages. For example, I heard German pronounce name “Jelena” and it was phonetically very close to original.
One can argue that native English speakers passengers on Air Serbia flights will be in minority compared to native speakers from Slavic or even Germanic speaking countries, so there would be no need to transcribe Jelena as Yelena for most passengers. Despite growth, Air Serbia will continue to be focused on Central/East/South East Europe passengers.
On the other hand, you can argue that English is de facto international language, especially in air travel, so adopting English pronunciation could have benefits. Etihad flight crew is typically mixed from many nations, and for a global airline it would absolutely make sense to use approach you mentioned.
It would also make sense to look at other examples. Translation and Romanization of Chinese names is a science in its own, but in general Chinese people in diaspora or global workforce do not translate their names to English using exact phonetic equivalents but “similar sounding” well known English (Western) names, so in essence they are picking English “alias” that sounds similar to make it easier for English speakers to call them by name. For example if pinyin phonetic equivalent of their name is “Yingshan”, they would likely use “Michelle”. It would be more practical for flight attendant to have “Michelle” rather than insisting on phonetic “Yingshan” on her name tag, right?
In a similar fashion, it might be better for Serbian name Љиљана to have English “alias” Lily rather than phonetic transcription Lilyana. I like your Option 1 design, so I would propose name tag to be “Љиљана, red line, Lily “ rather than “Љиљана, red line, Lilyana ” as per your proposal. Looking at number of people I know in Serbian diaspora and Serbs working as part of global workforce, I would have to conclude they are more likely to informally adopt Western aliases instead of using phonetic translation you suggested. You are more likely to find them use alias Mike than phonetic variant Mishko on nametags and emails. On legal documents they are however not likely to change names, so those aliases are not used to displace their real names but to enable easier communication in English. For that reason I believe my proposal would be far more likely to be accepted by Air Serbia and Mr Kondich (wait, that’s Kondić!).
This is a linguistic issue and dear Aerologic you are wrong considering both English and Serbian grammar.
DeleteSerbian language has it`s own standardized Latin scripts and therefore transcription of proper names is absolutely never used when you write them in English.
By the rules of English language proper names are always written in original form. So some Milca Šoškić could never be Meelitza Shoshkich if she is Serbian. Milica Šoškić always stays Milica Šoškić regardless you write it in Serbian or English. That are just the rules of English language.
I guess you are confused since neither Russian nor Ukrainian (or like other languages such as Bulgarian, Chinese, Japanese, Arabic etc.) has standardized Latin scripts. Therefore when you write in English proper names coming from Russian transcription is always used. The rules of transcriptions in foreign languages are given by the national institution for language (in Serbia its Serbian Academy of Sciences and Arts).
If you write foreign names in Serbian or Albanian transcription would always be used since its rules of our languages. Michael would be Majkl. But Serbian and English grammar are not the same…
My friendly suggestion to you is not to start this conversation since your point of view has no basis in linguistics. This issue was discussed and rules were made long time before you started thinking about it. Please don’t think you are so smart and leave linguistic issues to linguists.
Dear olhanense, let me put it simply - you are real idiot. Very disappointed of you. Before speculating on my background, it would be wise enough of you to ask about it first. I'm a linguist, translator and i speak 7 different languages. Since you don't possess a similar background for sure (no need to ask), i fail to understand how, according to your rules, you dared to even start this conversation? But ok, that's just one of your contradictions.
DeleteThe fact that Serbian doesn't have an official Latin 'transcription' doesn't change the fact that it is phonetically as different from other Western languages than Russian is, yet the Russian, in its transliteration, isn't using anything similar to the Croatian (in use in Serbia) or other Slavic alphabets. Today, Serbia is pretty much the only country in the world that can't decide itself on the alphabet it uses, which of course traces its origins to much deeper identity problems and issues the country has. Today, many Serbs just suffer to be accepted by the West. For me, i do not see any need for the use of Latin (Croatian script) in Serbia. Not because it's Croatia but simply cause we can live without it. Want to use Latin? Write in English.
Talking about SANU, please give me a break, just look at the country around you. Your friendly and other suggestions are dismissed and i'm gonna ask you not to address me any longer, i won't bother replying next time in any case.
@Previous anonymous
Great comment, that was also part of my ideas and suggestions (similar nicknames). I really think that we need to put an end to this confusion cause people have to understand that "Serbian-Latin" (which isn't Serbian first of all) has nothing to do with English and can't be read properly in English. That and other things will be discussed when i meet Mr. Kondich in the coming weeks.
You dont have to be a linguist to demand a national alphabet in your own country. The expansion of Latin alphabet is in reciprocity with growing provincial climate brought by Euro fanatics. The moral poverty prepared to slaughter its own value and culture heritage, just to look good in the eye of their EU idols. Cant comment how justifiably your proposal of transcription is, but using of Cyrillic implies.
Deletejao bre ljudi vi stvarno niste normalni...
DeletePa da li je moguce da vi stvarno verujete da upotreba latinice (ili bilo kojeg drugog pisma) ubija kulturu jednog naroda??
Dobar covek je dobar covek, Pisao cirilicom ili latinicom.
Pa nismo valjda dotle dosli da je dobar srbin samo onaj koji pise cirilicom... JOJ Boze, koji smo mi ludaci
Da je po nekima od nas ovde i dalje bi mlatili sa koskama po kamenju da se dopisujemo. Da nam slucajno nacin pisanja ne poj..e naionalnu kulturu.
He he, samo neznam kako bi se sad dopisivali na ovom blogu.
U stvari znam... isklesas sta si hteo da kazes, pa skeniras kamen... hmm pa da, moze i tako u stvari
Bolje i to nego ova glupa latinica ;)
Calling someone idiot just because you have different opinion is called rude and impolite in civilized world. Too be honest I`m shocked with the fact you have degree in linguistics. Sorry for not asking it first but I never had even a single thought such a thing might be possible.
DeleteWell I am not a linguist or translator but I do know well in which cases transcription should be used in English language. No one on the earth would ever transcribe Serbian names in English! There are many places on internet you can find this information . I remember very well how my English teacher thought me to write my own name. I was only 11 and it was my first year of learning English but that is the time when you learn this stuff.
Regarding this Cyrillic-Latin alphabet use in Serbian language please take a look who standardized Serbian Latin alphabet and when. Modern Serbian Latin alphabet exists as long as modern Serbian Cyrillic alphabet.
http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srpska_latinica
I hope one of those 7 languages is Serbian so you can understand it. The article is in Latin alphabet but I`m sure you will be able to read it.
I see current situation in your country influences you a lot but I am not going to speak about politics or your psychological profile over here. Serbia is not Ukraine neither Serbian language is the same as Ukrainian or Russian language (which is also the reason why proper nouns coming from those languages are writen different in English) . No one ever offend Ukraine or people of Ukraine on this blog therefore please don’t offend us and our country. Your opinion about Serbian lost identity, fake history or SANU keep for yourself or share it on the appropriate places.
And yes, I do look around myself and see Serbia every day. So really there is no need you to open our eyes to realize where we live. Maybe it would be good if you do the same and look a bit better on Kyiv and Ukraine. I`m sure with your degree in linguistics and knowledge of 7 languages you can help more to Ukrainian International than to Air Serbia. They might not reject all your smart linguistic proposals.
Best regards,
Olhanenese
Aerologic: change is good, but many in Serbia will resist any change as they can’t comprehend the benefits change will bring after the initial pain.
DeleteThank you for helping Air Serbia and keep up the good work! Respect!
Olhanenese,
DeleteYes, the Serbian Latin existed for a long time in theories and linguistic books. The first time it properly arranged by Vuk Stefanovic Karadzic. HOWEVER, you should look at when this alphabet was introduced into Serbian culture and when it creeped into the country's constitution. Latin alphabet did not exist in Serbia until 1918 but its true negative impact started to be felt after 1952 and especially after 2000 when it was en vogue to be an 'Europejac'.
I agree with you last anon. Latin afphabet in Serbian languaget is consequence of the fact that half of Serbs were living in Austro-Hungarian Empire for centuries. The point of this discusion shouldnt be what is pure Serbian alphabet or why we use Latin aplhabet or any other historiacal or political question. The question is should Air Serbia stuff have name tags with names writen in English like Beelyana, Meelitza or Lyubeetza. My point of view is that it is just unaccepectable and wrong.
DeleteIf you write the name as Bilyana foreigner wouldnt still pronounce it as we do. He/She would read it as "Bayliana".
Anyway writing Serbian names in English is normed long long time ago so this silly thing will never happen in Air Serbia as it never happen anywhere else. Luckily Biljana will always stay Biljana.
Sine, borba za srpstvo u 50 komentara... A sve je počeo borac za srpstvo koji u svom nadimku koristi slovo koje ne postoji u srpskoj ćirilici već samo u ruskoj... Odmah za njim juriša Internet Srbin koji niti ume da napiše svoje ime velikim slovom niti ume da napiše "kinderlada" na ćirilici... Ali su obojica veliki Srbi čija je misija da svi natpisi u kompaniji Air Serbia budu na ćirilici. Tipični primerci srpskih vođa - zalažu se za nešto što sami ne rade niti o tome imaju nekog pojma.
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DeleteMy, anonymous, son, this is an English speaking blog, so thats why my nickname is in Latin. Nickname can be anything and doesnt necessary represent someones real name or origin. За време турске окупације, било је Срба који су одабрали беспоштедну борбу против освајача, али било је и оних што су одмах набили турбан да би плаћали мањи порез. Да нагађамо где тебе сврставам. Ове којима "пица флајери" мењају културно наслеђе - не коментаришем.
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Друже, хајде погледај шта пишеш, живота ти. Компромитујеш себе писањем таквих глупости типа "Dobar covek je dobar covek, Pisao cirilicom ili latinicom.".. Ово не доликује једном "трећаку" на писменом задатку. То што живим у једном великом европском граду, радим у једној огромној мултинационалној фирми, говорим 2 европска језика а свакодневни посао ми подразумева употребу рачунара, ме уопште не спречава да користим своје писмо нити да се стидим свог културног наслеђа. Разумеш? Твој је избор је које ћеш писмо да користиш, али поистовећивање "латинизације" са напретком је сува малограђанштина.Поздрав!
You actually wonder if some people writing all this have made the effort to read the proposal. The proposal was about including both a Cyrillic AND international, phonetic version, on the same ID badge. So what are you complaining about? It isn't Serbian? Yes it is. It isn't international enough? Yes it is, written in a way that would the most closely resemble the English pronunciation, which is, as i also made an effort to mention, the official policy of Etihad Airways.
DeleteSo what are you complaining about after all? That it isn't including your dear "Serbian-Latin" as well, for you to be understood by the "region"? Give me a break.
Svi koji vole Fsx nek idu na Link levo United World Airlines.Pozdrav unapred
ReplyDeleteFor all of you guys who say that Latin script is official in Serbia, take a look at the paragraph number 10:
ReplyDeleteJezik i pismo
Član 10.
U Republici Srbiji u službenoj upotrebi su srpski jezik i ćiriličko pismo.
Službena upotreba drugih jezika i pisama uredjuje se zakonom, na osnovu Ustava.
type in ctrl + F and try to search for anything that starts with "Latin" and you won't find any results.
The only official letter in Serbia is Cyrilic.I don't mind Latin, but I am glad the constutition tries to preserve our culture.
Good night.
Source:
Deletehttp://www.sllistbeograd.rs/documents/ustav_republike_srbije_lat.pdf
haha, yet the link and the whole text is in Latin.
DeleteAre you guys serious or what?????
So what if it's in Latin? You can find the Serbian constitution in all forms and shapes. I guess this version is the one for those who gave up on the Cyrillic letters, you know, the self-proclaimed messiahs of westernization of the Serbian society.
DeleteAcording serbian constitution cyrilic letters are only one to be used. But in schools they still teach kids both alphabets in serbian language leftover from serbo-croatian language.
ReplyDeletePlease, for the sake of rest of the readers, if you are keen to write in English, at least learn basic grammar.
Deleteyou guys arguing about latinic and cyrillic are silly.
ReplyDeleteCyrillic is dying a slow death and it's for no other reason that latinic typography developed in the 80s and 90s in the rest of the world while Serbia was worried about other things.
Open a pizza shop today in Belgrade, open your computer to print up a flyer/commercial and what do you have on your computer? 100s of latinic fonts and maybe 5 cyrillic, if you're lucky.
What do kids send text messages in and update their facebook status in? 90% Latinic.
The pizza flyer, SMSs and facebook have already killed Cyrillic in the future and there's nothing a government edict can do about it.
"Rest of the world developing Latin alphabet in 80s and 90s while Serbia was worried about other things"?
DeleteYou have missed the blog. Try to google "Farma 5". Your crowd is over there.....
I still stand by opinion that a regional hybrid LCC would be the best solution for EXYU. Since its not, I hope to see Air Serbia developing more as a national hybrid LCC and be more accessible as a choice of transport to its citizens. Cant see BH Airlines surviving this year....
Trying to insult me doesn't change facts. Cyrillic is dying a slow death and there's nothing anyone can do about it, especially not you posting bombastically on an aviation blog.
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