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| Busy day for ex-Yu aviation as Air Croatia launches flights |
Just days into the 2015 summer season, a number of events are scheduled to take place today in the aviation industry in the former Yugoslavia, with Air Croatia launching operations and Air Serbia holding a press conference on planned service innovations. Furthermore, Dubrovnik Airport will restore links to Moscow through S7 Airlines, while Sarajevo Airport has posted strong passenger growth for the month of March.
Start-up Air Croatia began operations this morning with an ATR 42 aircraft, which has been wet-leased from Dutch-based Denim Air. The airline inaugurated flights from Zagreb to Budapest with services to Prague to be introduced later today. Flights to Rome and Milan are scheduled to begin tomorrow. Originally, services were to be inaugurated last summer, but were delayed until December before being pushed back to March and then again to April this year. Jost Lammers, the Managing Director of Budapest Airport says, “This is another clear indication of our airport’s growing reputation, with airlines recognising the business and leisure opportunities available. We know demand is strong for this service to Zagreb and look forward to welcoming Air Croatia as a new airline partner”. Prague Airport’s spokeswoman, Marika Yanoushkova, says, “Flights will be operated under the current schedule, but I do not know whether they will continue during the winter”.
Air Serbia held a press conference today in Belgrade. Although it planned to address service innovations for 2015, the airline refused to comment on any current issues, including flights to the United States, despite inquires from the press. Instead, it opened the first Etihad Airways Partners sales office in the world, which will also sell airline branded products. Previously, the carrier announced the launch of wireless Internet access on board its Airbus fleet and the opening of a dedicated business class lounge at Belgrade Nikola Tesla Airport. Both product developments will be rolled out during the second quarter of the year.
Months after Aeroflot announced it would suspend its seasonal flights from Moscow to Dubrovnik after three years of operations, S7 Airlines has said it will step in to fill the void. The airline will launch services from Moscow’s Domodedovo Airport to Dubrovnik once per week, each Saturday, starting June 6 until September 19. S7 is a member of the Oneworld alliance and Russia’s busiest domestic airline. Igor Veretennikov, Strategy Director of the S7 Group, says, “Tourists from Russia like Croatia for its convenient geographical position, subtropical weather and the Adriatic Sea, as well as European service. This is why S7 Airlines traditionally operates flights to Croatia during the summer season. Besides Dubrovnik, we are resuming flights from Moscow to Pula and Split during the summer”. Tickets for the new service are already on sale with further details available here. Aeroflot served Dubrovnik on a daily basis. The Russian carrier will maintain daily flights to both Zagreb and Split this summer, with services to the latter operating on a seasonal basis only, from June 1 to October 4.
Sarajevo Airport has continued its passenger growth streak with numbers improving this March compared to the same month last year. The airport handled 50.273 passengers last month, up 9.8% on 2014. “We expect to see further growth in the coming period”, the airport said in a statement. On Friday, Swiss International Air Lines will inaugurate flights from Geneva to the capital of Bosnia and Herzegovina, while services from Zurich will be launched on May 1. Overall, Sarajevo Airport has welcomed 133.881 travellers during the first three months of the year, an increase of 14% compared to the same period in 2014.
| Month | PAX | Change (%) |
|---|---|---|
| JAN | 43.700 | ▲ 21.0 |
| FEB | 39.908 | ▲ 12.6 |
| MAR | 50.273 | ▲ 9.8 |
Finally, two Ryanair aircraft, one of which was bound for Zadar, clipped each other at Dublin Airport yesterday. A spokesperson for the airport said the incident occurred on the taxiway with no injuries reported. In a statement, the airline said the aircraft had been “taxiing slowly to the runway”. “The winglet of one aircraft appears to have scraped the tail fin of the other. Both aircraft were under the instruction of Dublin Airport Air Traffic Control at the time”, Ryanair said. It added, “Customers were bussed and boarded two replacement aircraft, which departed to Edinburgh and Zadar. Ryanair apologises sincerely to customers for any inconvenience caused”. Travellers heading to Zadar were delayed by just under two hours.
Wait... so Air Croatia actually took off?!
ReplyDeleteYes! I know hard to believe
DeleteBUDAPEST 07:55 07:45 Poletio
Well, I am certainly in shock. I never expected them to take off.
DeleteWas there some sort of ceremony at ZAG? Would be great if someone knows the loads.
Loads were ok for ATR42, 40 pax,Prague flight is boarding now, or is about to board. If they can maintain 30-40 flights per week they could make a decent profit. Next year they could double their fleet to two ATR 42 and do even better. That being said if they really plan to play a significant role iin Croatian air travel they'll need to up their steaks and get something bigger than ATR 42, perhaps E-175 might be better option if they're still around next year.
DeleteSteak = biftek; stake = udeo.
DeleteDo you guys really believe that there were no free tickets or VIP,s on the first flight. Every company assigns like half of the plane for that just like BNX where on the first flight there were like 120 pax, of which probably only 20 or so were paying. Please do post numbers for other days. Will be interesting to see how things workout
DeleteThere were, but 39 passengers were booked.
DeleteI like the format of today’s news. Something for everyone.
ReplyDeleteGood luck to Air Croatia. I think they will need it but it would be great for passengers if they kept flying with those cheap fares. I presume Air Serbia will announce wifi and lounge but it would be nice if they surprised us. As for Ryanair I think this is the second time in a few months their two aircraft clipped each other at the same airport!
Ryanair winglet stuck in the tail fin is too funy
ReplyDeleteGood luck Air Croatia!
ReplyDeleteBravo Air Croatia
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ReplyDeleteIt's nice to see the following in Belgrade today:
11.20 Gothenburg Wizz Air
11.30 Beauvais Wizz Air
12.20 Eindhoven Wizz Air
It's really nice to see them maintaining a strong presence this summer.
How many confusions in one small ATR. Denim air operating as Air Croatia with SATA livery
ReplyDeleteSATA livery, indeed :)
DeleteDanas je prvi let Goteborg-Mostar koji obavlja Malmö Aviation
ReplyDeleteHappy about S7 but its still a major decrease in flights from daily last year.
ReplyDeleteWrong. ZAG and SPU had daily SU last summer, DBV had 3 weekly frequency. But it's decrease, indeed. And good thing is that decrease is to/from Russian market only, while all other markets have either increase or at least the same level as last year, which will result in better numbers for DBV this year, despite little bit less Russian operations
DeleteNot true, DBV had daily flights. We are still waiting for JU to increase DBV to daily as they have good connections to/from SVO.
DeleteZAG-BUD 39 pax on ATR-42 (booked pax not VIP free tickets). LF 75%.
ReplyDeleteKorean will have 13 rotations from Seoul to Zagreb in May, Jun, July, August and October
Were you on the flight? Do you have the numbers for the return flight?
DeleteI can see them destroying OU to Rome, especially as they will be the only one to offer non-stop flights.
ReplyDeleteThey can't destroy OU because OU doesn't rely on ZAG-FCO passengers, they rely on ZAG-SPU(DBV) and SPU(DBV)-FCO passengers. Believe me they charge enormous on those lines even Vueling and Easy offer much cheaper tickets.
DeleteBut I am sure that they had some passengers to Rome. I am sure they will lose even the few they had. Those stops are so annoying.
DeleteNadam se da ce G Kondic obradovati danas ovu Gospodu sto ne podnosi ASL . Mislim da bi bilo zanimljivo kad bi S7 imao nekoliko letova za BEG.
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Ako se dobro sjecam ugovora između dvije države kaže da samo po jedna kompanija iz svake zemlje mogu da lete na nekoj liniji što znači da je Moskva nemoguća dokle god Aeroflot je tu. Jedino iz nekog drugog grada.
DeleteThat was the case until 2013. Since then the air service agreement was modernised and now any airline can launch flights as long as it has either a Serbia or Russian AOC.
DeleteBilo bi zanimljivo da UN ili S7 uspostave 2-3 pw za INI da vidimo sta bi SU i JU da rade.
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Well, the guys that can't stand ASL will definitely be delighted today. Simply, no news.
DeleteOn the contrary, it was about not so stupid shop.
DeleteOvaj Kondić se savršeno uklapa u sivu eminenciju Vučićevih najavljivača i propagandista. Marketing, marketing i samo marketing, nigde konkretnih inovacija.
DeleteЈа сам и даље у шоку да се оволика прашина дигла због једна најобичније пословнице... who cares.
DeleteКрајње сам разочаран.
Air Serbia redovno diže prašinu da bi im došli novinari, a onda se prave ludi. Proverena strategija.
DeleteVi stvarno niste svesni sta pisete napadate coveka sto nema nikakve veze sa politikom. Naravno da nece iznositi planove sto imaju.
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Да ли схваташ да је човек сазвао прес конференцију и да ништа конкретно није објавио. Прес конференције се сазивају само када имаш нешто револуционарно да објавиш. Отварање пословнице то није.
Delete+1 5:36, INN-NS go back to school since you need to learn much more :)
Deleteof all the places in the world where the Etihad Airways Partners grouping could have opened the first of its kind retail shop representing all of the airlines in their group, they chose, of all places to do so, Serbia. And you don't think this is newsworthy ??
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DeleteNN-NS dodji malo probaj da živiš ovde u "naprednoj Srbiji" iza gvozdene zavese. Svima vama spolja Srbija izgleda lepa. Pa i džungla je lepa na National Geographicu..
DeleteA kome još treba poslovnica kad 95% ljudi kupuje karte online.
AnonymousApril 2, 2015 at 5:46 PM
DeleteIf this shop/outlet had any real value then the first one would be opened in Abu Dhabi, not Belgrade.
Šta je mrzitelji ASL? Nedostaje vam Jat? Tada je bilo sve bolje a i deo vas je leteo za "dž".
DeleteJa hvala bogu idem jos u skolu.
DeleteJa nebi imao problema da zivim u Srbiji .
Poslocnica je dobra tako da ne znam sto kukate.
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AnonymousApril 2, 2015 at 6:09 PM
DeleteНикоме не недостаје Јат већ је доста људи огорчено када Ер Србија представља лажно стање у медијима то јест стање које нема везе са стварношћу.
А што се тиче летења за џ... хоћу да те обавестим да је Ер Србија подједнако либерална што се тиче летења за џ. Тако је либерална да је дала привремено запосленим радницима право на зед карту.
Otkud vi znate kakvo je stanje u ASL.
DeleteINN-NS
Miroslav Milosevic - are you any relation to your namesake ?? I ask, bcoz you seem to be pulling the same tricks out of the same bag - the sack of b.s.
DeleteOnline sales in Serbia have very low penetration - infact, of total ticketed volume in Serbia, only 21% is transacted online - meaning that 79% is ticketed through a traditional "bricks and mortor" travel agents or airline sales offices.
Globally, it is far greater, having reached 52% of all tickets sold.
And in tech savvy Hong Kong, they are even behind Serbia, where only 16% of total air tickets sold are purchased online.
So you are way off my friend ....
I get it - you prefer to buy online - so go for it. But to make throw away comments like 95% of tickets purchased are transacted online - only you know where that one came from ....
Try another forum elsewhere, this one is for serious aviation buffs ....
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DeleteЗа разлику од тебе живим у Србији и знам људе који раде за фирму. Између осталог, теби се нисам ни обраћао тако да ако имаш проблем са мојим постом слободно га заобиђи...
@6.09 sta zna Etihad.. samo se zajebavaju. Cilj im je da obmanjuju srpsku javnost! Hahaha! Joj Srbijooooo, medju šljivamaaa
DeleteMoram se mesati zato sto pricate nebuloze.Znam ja vise u firmi od vas zaposlenih. Ma to je sve teorija zavere.
DeleteINN-NS
INN-NS krstas Er Srbije...
DeleteSve bot do bota. Zašto bi ljudi koji imaju bilo koji vid platne kartice kupovali karte u poslovnici ako uz to ide taksa za izdavanje? OK uzmimo za primer da je AnonymousApril 2, 2015 at 7:04 PM potpuno u pravu. Čak i tada znamo da se sve više plaćanja obavlja online i da je aviokartu najlakše nabaviti na ovaj način, posebno pošto velike kompanije smanjuju broj poslovnica. Em što se gubi vreme em se plaća više. Hong Kong je možda izolovan neki slučaj gde ljudi teško menjaju ovu navikju a i Cathay i ostale tamošnje kompanije možda daju povoljnosti za high street kupovinu karata.Air Serbia to ne daje, već destimuliše, a verovatno i njihovi partneri.
DeleteI molim da kad neko ima kontraargument ne napada personalno, posebno ako se krije iza anonimnog potpisa. Hvala unapred.
Kad branim ASL ili sam bot ili krstas sta je sledece.
DeleteINN-NS
Miroslave, prvo krećete sa uvredama a posle apelujete da se ljudi sa kontra argumentima ne napadaju?
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DeletePa kada smaras narod i kada pises apsolutne gluposti...
Ne vredjam nikog, ja razumem da je u ovoj zemlji teško zaraditi za hleb i da se treba od nečega živeti, kad nema drugih mogućnosti agitovanje za odredjene stranke može biti legitimno. Sasvim je druga stvar suditi o nekome po njegovom prezimenu, izgledu, ukusima, to je direktan napad. Uostalom, ja sam se ovde prijavio pravim imenom i prezimenom, a vi iako verovatno imate "politički korektnije" prezime i dalje se krijete iza anonimnog. Ok da ne ispadne tako, pretpostaviću da nemate Google nalog i da Vam ne treba, hvala.
DeleteAnonymousApril 2, 2015 at 9:40 PM
DeleteProblem kod vas je problem sto ste ljubomorni na ASL i pojedine politicare pa budite bolji od njih.
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Miroslave, teško je priznati, ali razotkriven sam. Od nečega mora da se živi. Šta cete, Srbija je ovo, od necega mora da se zaradi za sendvič. Btw, da ne bude zabune, moje prezime jeste politički korektno ali ja nisam taj koji vas proziva zbog prezimena. To je podjednako glupo kao i vaše nazivanje botom svakoga ko ne misli kao vi. Po vama, svako ko daje podršku ASL je pristalica Vučića? Moram da vas razočaram, nisam.
DeleteDrago mi je da ste se vratili na normalan ton rasprave, mada ću zanemariti vaš kiničan odgovor na početku.
DeleteElem, što se tiče ASL. Smatram da je ovaj projekat jedan od najboljih, ako ne i najbolji projekat aktuelne vladajuče garniture. Rezultati već polako dolaze, i svidja mi se taj oprezan pristup (2015 se neće širiti mreža ni značajnije povećavati frekvencije, nego će se gledati stabilizacija i povećanje LF što je pametna strategija). Ali ovo je pravljenje od komarca magarca. Drugo, mnogo je bolje da su uložili u online check in, jer je to budućnost, a fizička prodaja karata, čak iako je skroz dominantna za to već postoje poslovnice i brojni reselleri. Sem tog,a da li je ovo uopšte nova poslovnica ili je samo izvršeno preseljenje poslovnice iz Bulevara umetnosti? Drugo, ono za šta bi ova poslovnica jako dobro mogla da posluži, i ne samo ona nego i ona na Tašmajdanu jeste da se uvede downtown check-in gde se u poslovnici izmedju 6 i 24 sata pre ukrcavanja može izvršiti kompletan check in uključujući i predavanje prtljaga. Ovaj revolucionarni izum primenjuje i ETD u Abu Dabiju što znači da i ASL ima know how potporu da i u Beogradu primeni nešto što ima tek nekoliko aerodroma na celom Svetu i to onih najvećih aerodroma. To je najjednostavniji način da ASL postane uzor u širem regionu kome pripadamo.
http://www.etihad.com/en-us/before-you-fly/city-check-in/
Dakle kad to urade onda će ta poslovnica ZAISTA biti "not so stupid shop".
City check-in ima smisla ako je u nekom transportnom središtu, npr. velikoj železničkoj ili autobuskoj stanici, a svakako tamo gde postoji brza i direktna veza sa aerodromom... Eventualno gde ima puno hotela, pa se očekuje dosta putnika, ali opet bez neke direktne veze to je logistička noćna mora.
DeleteBelville je in the middle of nowhere kada su putnici u pitanju (i to od nekoga ko živi u bloku 61). Pa ko će da ide u Belville na check-in i zašto, osim eventualno stanovnika tog naselja? Nije usput, nema prevoza do aerodroma, brže je ići direktno na Surčin, praktično nikome to ništa ne bi značilo.
Miroslave, ne znam zasto vas je iznerviralo otvaranje poslovnice? Naše tržište je još uvek takvo - kakvo je, i sa navikama kakve jesu. Uvodjenje on line check in-a nije jednostavno za implementaciju ali se na njemu radi i bice ga.
DeleteCity check in ima veoma jak smisao u Beogradu, ne toliko zbog samo grada nego zbog aerodroma. Putnik koji na aerodrom dolazi samo sa kabinskim prtljagom i boarding passom ide pravo na pasošku kontrolu što značajno povećava kapacitet prebukiranih terminala bez ikakvih proširivanja i drugih značajnijih ulaganja u njih.. Iz perspektive vas koji živite u bloku 61 to nije prednost, jer živite dosta blizu aerodroma pa bi vam je Belvil u suprotnom pravcu. Većini ljudi je centar grada kao i Belvil mnogo bliži od samog aerodroma., To ne mora da bude ni poslovnica, može da bude mesto posvećeno samo za to, mog da budu i privremeni objekti koji se koriste samo u sezoni. Slavija, Trg Republike, početak Bulevara Zorana Đinđića ili možda Zeleni Venac. Takođe nemojte zaboraviti da se u blizinu Belvila uskoro premešta BAS i to upravo sa strane gde je Air Serbia HQ i nova poslovnica.
DeleteJoš jedan razlog ZA city check in je jako banalan ali bitan - postojeći aerodromski busevi su niskopodmni i nemaju prtljažnik, a aerodrom iz nepoznatih razloga ne želi da nabavi takve buseve pa se sad u njih guraju ljudi sa koferima.
Pa ako je Belville in the middle of nowhere, koja ja onda logika da se tamo otvara poslovnica/prodavnica? Zar i ona/one ne bi trebale biti u centru grada/transportnom središtu/delu sa puno hotela/putnika? U svakom slucaju sa ovim "in the middle of nowhere" samo ste potvrdili da je novootvoreni objekat cist promasaj
DeleteOn line check in nije budućnost nego sadašnjost i to već nekih 15 godina realnost. Osim u Air Serbiji i pokojoj afričkoj kompaniji (ne i većini afričkih kompanija)
DeleteMilosevicu nemas pojma o ceni avio karata, kada kupujes kod dobrog agenata u Srbija dobijes najbolju cenu koja ima na sistemu i koju nikada ne prikazuju web pretrazivaci. Otuda potreba za poslovnicom. Cena taksi prevoza do ANT je smesna tako da ne moras da se vozis busom do njega. To su ionako gradski autobusi dobro je da su niskopodni. Trece pises srpski sa engleskim idiomima jak smisao i sl.
DeleteMoj komentar u vezi sa "in the middle of nowhere" je pomenut u kontekstu lokacije aerodroma naspram transportnih čvorišta u Beogradu. Belvillie tome nije ni blizu. Dodao sam da živim u B61 samo da me neki Novobeograđanin ne bi pogrešno razumeo, jer je to još veći middle of nowhere. Daleko da je to nekakvo naselje na periferiji, tu je DC, blizu su Arena i Airport City, ozbiljno je to mesto za život - samo ne vidim poentu city check-ina na tom mestu.
DeleteZaista, moguće je da bi aerodromskim službama bilo lakše kada bi ih neko na taj način rasteretio posla. Ali, opet, niko normalan neće ići tamo da odradi check-in. Ne samo ja iz B61, nego bilo ko, osim možda onih koji žive u samom Belvilleu.
Slažem se, kada tu bude bus stanica, svakako, ali znate koliko godina (decenija) ima taj plan...
Looks like Zagreb is on target to hit 2.8 million pax this year.
ReplyDeleteI was doubtful of AirCroatia ever taking off, but with them in play things look very promising for Zagreb numbers.
So what was the JU press conference all about? It can't be just for the stupid shop.
ReplyDeleteno, it was for the benefit of the CEO to see himself on TV and in the news .... this guy just doesn't know when to stop and can't get enough of seeing himself in the press
DeleteJust a sidenote, the CEO wasn't actually there.
DeleteCEOs are expected to be celebrities of their industries, promoting their brands at every opportunity. Richard Branson and Steve Jobs tremendously increased visibility and appeal of their brands because of this approach.
DeleteASL branded merchandise is important for the same reason. I remember going into main sales office in late 2013 only to be disappointed that displayed Air Serbia merchandize was not for sale. It took a while to start selling it. ASL should also make it available at BEG airport duty free stores for transit passengers.
In other news, Wizz finally introduced pay for seat selection option. Another ancillary revenue that some of the legacies have been using for a while. As I mentioned before, time for Air Serbia to look into those options:
http://www.exyuaviation.com/2015/03/serbia-to-finalise-us-flight-deal-by.html?showComment=1427827311765#c1722787999548412232
OT: Switzerland's Federal Office of Civil Aviation (FOCA) approves Etihad's 33.3% investment in the Swiss regional carrier Darwin Airline (Etihad Regional).
ReplyDeleteOT sorry Air Croatia and good luck! :-) I throw in a trip report of mine from this week. Vienna- Sarajevo via Belgrade on Monday return on Wednsday. Vienna -Belgrade leg on 737-300, half full at best. ATR 72-600 to Sarajevo, some 55+ pax. On the way back to BGD full ATR and max 50 pax on the 737 to Vienna. The service was excellent as always on Air Serbia, pursers pretty and smiling. The new welcome music is much better.
ReplyDeleteps. very long connection in Belgrade both ways, but the difference in price between this and Austrian direct flight is huge i.e. EUR 250 vs Eur 800, so much so that my company protocol doesnt allow me to take direct flight in this case. Pretty sure the Austrian price is robbery (and its always that expensive if you book 1-2 weeks before) while air serbia is currently Dumping.
€250 is hardly dumping given the sector lengths... However, I am glad you enjoyed your flights. I only wish BEG was a better airport.
DeleteIt's not uncommon for Austrian to charge crazy fares like €500 for BEG-VIE. Booking them via lh.com is so much cheaper.
DeleteThanks for short trip report, but 250 is a bit expansive actually, definitely not dumping. A while back ASL was offering for 200 euros flights from AMS to TLV return.
Deletei suspect its dumping because Vienna -SJJ via BEG costs EUR 205 up to about 1 week before flight (ive travelled this route 5 times in last 2 months) while only Vienna - Belgrade direct flight costs about the same or more! So I think that they are reducing the profit margin greatly, maybe losing money currently at this price level. Austrian on the other hand has no direct comeption on VIE-SJJ route and they are going wild.
DeleteI dont get how you are finding so expansive tickets, I bought one from BEG to Vienna 2 weeks ago for June at 209 Canadian so around 150 euros return.
DeleteThe 209 Canadians was a promotional price. Standard fare for JU is 231 Euros while Austrian is 239. Those are the cheapest fares on the market.
Delete^nope very wrong!!!!!! For 280 Canadian you can go from SJJ to Vienna.
Deletewith Adria, go to cheapoair and see it for yourself. You guys should really consider switching to cheapoair since I find some of the cheapest tickets out there on that engine.
Deletei don't understand this whole fixation about Air Serbia and its pricing, being constantly accused of price dumping. Wizz Air and others sell far cheaper and no one says a single word about any of them or about their price dumping
DeleteOk you just made things worse man, comparing low cost to full service carrier, the hell man. What this guy probably meant is that Adria and Croatian Airlines also offer cheap prices from a number of routes so dumping is not only done by ASL. Also bigger fish like LH and LX on certain routes do a lot of dumping.
Deletedude, KLM is offering fares frm BEG to the NYC for EUR420. Turkish aren't much mor expensive either. If this isn't price dumping, then what is ? Worse, they don't even fly to BEG, they codeshare on Air Serbia !!!
DeletePricing is a fucntion of many factors, but fundamentally around the cost base an airline has. That's why LCCs are LOW COST because their cost base is so low and their services minimal, they offer cheap pricing.
Last week, at the CAPA conference in Dublin, the Air Serbia CEO was quoted as saying that Air Serbia's costs were now benchmarked against LCCs and was below even easyjet. If that is the case, then it is no wonder that they can offer such low entry level fares ....
Interesting ....
DeleteWhen carriers offer really special fares/pricing, they are regarded as super good value.
When Air Serbia has similarly sharp fares, they are price dumping.
Mmmmm, somethings not right here
Nothing is robbery. OS has a good revenue mgt which controls their prizes/flights and if demand allows they automatically increase the tariffs.
ReplyDeleteDon t know how many of u work in the airline industry, but also we hve the right to earn money and gain profits. People spend 200 EUR on a dinner but can t pay 400 eur for a 4 leg routing. U can imagine all the costs behind it?
JU currently dumps prizes on the market with a clear intention and strategy as they all do from the gulf or those handcovered by the gulf
Greetings from Buenos Aires y buen dia a todos
You do realise that Austrian Airlines charged €800 for VIE-SJJ, a flight that lasts about 50 minutes.
DeleteI dont actually believe that they charged that much. Maybe it was that much only on that ONE day, otherwise I know tickets are around 200-300 euros which is still much but acceptable. Has anyone else noticed that even from BEG or ZAG or any airport in ex yu flights to Vienna can get more expansiv than AMS, LHR even, CDG.
DeleteYep! VIE-SJJ EUR 800 and on tuesday while in SJJ I recieve a marketing mail from Austrian that says Sri Lanka from EUR 630!! I mean really .-) Vie
DeleteRE price to SJJ trust me - if you book less than 2 weeks before the tickets are ALWAYS EUR 800-850 (allegedly corporate rate). Ive travelled to SJJ via Belgrade on business 5 times in the last 2 months, and believe me despite being Serbian I dont enjoy the 7,5hr trip (door to door). Simply Air Serbia is so much cheaper that one doesnt have a choice if wants to manage properly the costs.
Deletesame would be true if Air serbia was charging EUR 400, still I would go with them and not Austrian for EUR 800. In fact I think they could easily raise the fares on VIE-SJJ without losing the transfer pax. For sure.
DeleteDoes anyone have the loads for their Prague flights?
ReplyDeleteI never understood why OU didn't fly to Prague or Milan. I am sure there is a market for at least a daily Q400 flight.
it's simply about a fleet shortage for OU. It decided to focus on the "priority routes", those which are most likely to bring profits.
DeleteOne would think "yeah right" knowing that OU's fleet is unused during the winter. I'd say yes, buuuut... if you are focusing on developing steady route offer from a hub airport, than you'd want to keep your routes all year round. and OU can't expand as od now... so that's the reason... :)
Yeah but we are not talking about some remote, tiny European cities... here we are also talking about Prague, a destination they most likely can keep throughout winter time as well.
DeleteWhy didn't they use Trade Air Embraer 120 for Prage route? Trade Air ask OU to fly for them with Embraer and Fokker 100 in some new routes in franchise or as Trade Air route with OU code-share on it.
DeleteSeems like Air Croatia is sold out to Budapest and Prague over the Easter holidays.
ReplyDeleteGood luck to Air Croatia!
ReplyDeleteDoes Air Croatia operate under its own AOC ?
Can somebody provide us with ASL loads to AUH? Recently there was a comment/trip report which said loads were around 50 pax both ways. Is this common? Will loads increase in summer drastically or no?
ReplyDeleteWho's asking? And why do you need it?
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ReplyDeleteRegarding Air Croatia, I understand that the aircraft is based in Zagreb. Looking at their schedule it is possible to add one or two domestic rotations to DBV or SPU per day. I don't understand the logic of keeping the aircraft idle, instead of offering some compatible domestic fares?
ReplyDeleteCurrent schedule can be operated by 1 crew. Additional domestic services would mean introduction of the second crew, hotel accomodation costs, as the crew is foreign, crew per diem costs, etc etc, and low fares on odmestic services couldn't "cover" for all these additional costs
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