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| Kiev Airport announces new Air Serbia flights |
Kiev's Boryspil International Airport has announced that Air Serbia will launch flights from Belgrade to the Ukrainian capital this summer season. Boryspil Airport's spokeswoman, Oksana Ozhigova, said plans are currently in place for the Serbian carrier to commence operations on June 2. Flights will initially operate three times per week, before gradually increasing to six weekly services. Ms Ozhigova added that besides Air Serbia, new arrivals at Boryspil Airport this summer will include Aegean Airlines, which will introduce flights from both Athens and Larnaca, as well as Mahan Air from Tehran and Ellinair from Heraklion. Last month, Air Serbia's Chairman, Siniša Mali, said the carrier was considering inaugurating services to Kiev, while in January, the Ukrainian Ambassador to Serbia, Oleksandr Aleksandrovych, noted that flights between the two capital cities would launch this summer.
Air Serbia itself has not issued an official statement on the new route launch and flights are yet to be loaded into the system. Ukraine's Aerosvit Airlines suspended services between Kiev and the Serbian capital in June 2011 citing "technical reasons". The carrier has since filed for bankruptcy. On the other hand, Air Serbia cancelled plans to launch daily flights to the Ukrainian capital from May 29, 2014 due to security reasons, stating at the time, "The safety of our guests and crew is paramount to the airline". Meanwhile, direct flights between Ukraine and Russia have been discontinued since last October. Foreign carriers are now benefiting, with some 680.000 passengers, who travel between the two countries by air, now seeking alternatives. Foreign airlines operating flights to both Ukraine and Russia have seen this as a drawcard for boosting services to Kiev.
Air Serbia will increase frequencies on a number of routes in its network this summer, including Amsterdam, Berlin, Bucharest, Dusseldorf, Sofia, Dubrovnik, Pula and Split. It will also resume other seasonal flights such as Malta and Varna. The airline has so far confirmed it will introduce services from Belgrade to New York on June 23, while the Mayor of Ohrid has said Air Serbia will inaugurate seasonal summer flights to the lakeside city this June, following talks with the carrier last week. Meanwhile, officials from Bihor County in Romania told the "Bihor Online" portal that they are continuing their talks with Air Serbia over potential services from Belgrade to Oradea, which, according to them, would commence in autumn. The 2016 summer season begins on March 27.
They are also resuming their seasonal flight to Larnaca at the end of the month. :)
ReplyDeleteAs far as Aegean goes, they are not really launching Kiev flights, they are just changing airports.
+1
DeleteGood choice. My only question is where they will find the spare aircraft?
ReplyDeleteThe plan is to lease CRJ-900 including crew for only 4 months.
DeleteIt will be operated by Adria's jet.
Deletebilo bi krajnje uputno da uvedu taj tip u flotu i postepeno gase atr eskadrilu !
Delete@9:29 ..kad profitabilnost ne bi bila bitna ;)
DeleteWhat happens after four months, are they going to dispatch the Atr or the A319?
DeleteToo far for an ATR.
DeleteIt is a summer season flight only :(
DeleteNo, it's year round.
DeleteAfter 4 months Warsaw will be suspended and frees up the aircraft.
DeleteMakes sense, WAW was only kept because LO temporarily suspended the route. They can't compete with them once the summer is gone. In KBP there is almost no risk of losing the monopoly.
DeletePersonally i won't regret it although flights were always full. IEV would be a better choice than KBP so i guess an interline or codeshare agreement with PS should be in works, that would explain why they went for Borispol.
DeleteWhy the hell you prefer IEV over KBP?
DeleteIEV is closer to the city.
DeleteIEV is to central Kiev what is Crveni Krst to Kalemegdan whilst KBP is more like Nova Pazova. The airport is new and well connected to the public transportation, offers free Wi-Fi, it's organised etc. Aegean until recently used to fly there, so does Air Baltic.
DeleteThis makes no sence. UIA has daily flights to JFK
ReplyDeleteIt has nothing to do with JFK. Their entire network does not depend on JFK. They wanted to launch Kiev long before US flights.
DeleteThey can always try to offer cheaper tickets than UIA. That would mean really low ticket prices...
DeleteUIA has been offering flights to Athens in March for as low as 35$.
DeleteUIA is the definition of dumping.
DeleteI hope to see UIA in the region. They offer very good prices...
DeleteThe majority of transit pax LO and SU used to transport from the Ukraine were towards Western Europe i.e destinations served by Air Serbia.
DeleteLOT today opened the line from Kharkov to Warsaw using an E175 with 44 pax incoming and 56 outgoing on the inaugural flight.
Deletehttp://www.avianews.com/ukraine/2016/03/3_lot_kharkiv_firstflight.shtml
This will be a very intersting year.
ReplyDeleteAir Serbia are counting on transfer passengers between Ukraine and Russia. In the same time Siberian Airlines (S7) are in advanced talks over acquiring a Bulgarian company in order to bypass the Ukraininan\Russian restrictions. Bulgaria Air have just created a new company called BUL Air which is the subject of those talks.
Furthermore, Dniprovia announced that the seasonal line to SOF from KBP will be converted to year-round from late March with 3x weekly flights.
I heard about a cypriot company? Why they moved to a Bulgarian one?
DeleteAlso lets not forget that there are a plenty of Bessarabian Bulgarians in Ukraine so it´s quite logic to have this route.
DeleteThe interesting thing will be if S7 buys a Bulgarian company...
DeleteS7 boss announced that they are setting up a Cypriot airline called Charlie and initially it will get two A319s from S7.
Deletehttp://tass.ru/en/economy/860227
Can Air Serbia move any pax between Kiev and Moscw? I think Belavia is in a perfect position to profit big because of their perfect position.
ReplyDeleteWith the right price I'm sure they can.
DeleteMy guess is that airBaltic is the main one when it comes to moving passengers between Russia and Ukraine. Belavia's connections are not as smooth especially because of an inadequate infrastructure at Minsk airport.
DeleteLol. I connected in Minsk several times, it was just perfect.
DeletePfff.. MAD/BCN flights were much more promising then Kiev. Sometimes I dont really understand on bases of what they are introducing the new services.
ReplyDeleteHave you ever thought that there might be a reason why flights between BEG and MAD/BCN never really operated on year round basis and why Vueling flies only seasonally? The reason is extreme high seasonality and few business links.
DeleteForget BEG. Those are important for OTP/SOF/VAR routes, if they think they can compete on routes to Spain.
Delete*with LCC
DeleteI don't think they can compete on these routes from Romania nor Bulgaria. Both countries have a lot of connections to Spain and in addition to TAROM and Bulgaria Air they have LCC - Wizz, Blue Air and Ryan.
Delete@ Anonymous March 3, 2016 at 9:28 AM
DeleteDon´t you tell me Skoplje has better business links to BCN then Belgrade please. I mean even seasonaly Madrid or Barcelona would really be good choice, cos I perosnally know many ppl flying from Budapest on those routes.
SKP-BCN is a subsidised route, that´s another story..I think BEG-BCN deserves to be all year around such as SOF and SKP.
DeleteSo funny labeling things as subsidized and jumping to conclusions without any figures involved. Actual support is immaterial compared to the cost of the route. It takes some guts and a good financial sheet to go for something more exciting like BCN.
DeleteI don't think that BEG can be compared with SOF in matters the connections to Spain. There is huge Bulgarian diaspora in Spain. SOF-BCN is operated currently by 2 companies on year-round basis and 1 on seasonal basis. By the end of the year also Ryan will be operating this route which makes in total 3+1 companies... Same goes for Madrid. SOF actually have connections to MAD/BCN/VLC/ALC/AGP/PMI
DeleteSo, I don't think that you can compare...
Bravo SKP and SOF!
DeleteShame on you BEG.
So, in addition to 'Bravo!' chants we now have the 'Shame!' chant as well... Lovely.
DeleteBEG airport management should be ashamed of calling themselves managers.
Deletehahaha for anon 11:15 AM :)
DeleteAnon 10:29,
DeleteThat same Wizz Air - with its guts and a good financial sheet - can open BEG-BCN literally overnight if they wish. But they don't do it. Which means they did their math and concluded that BEG catchment area does not create enough demand for a year-round service to BCN.
Now, it could be that the SKP catchment area is very rich compared to that of BEG and they can easily afford city breaks in Barcelona throughout the year.
Or it could be that Wizz's math in SKP has some variables their math in BEG does not have. And thanks to these variables they can keep BCN year-round.
Anonymous 1:50 PM
DeleteIt has to do with SKP airport management being capable and BEG airport management being incapable more than anything else.
It's really sad to hear about BEG management if this is really the main reason. BCN has connections to almost all European capitals on a year round basis...even cities like KIV, KBP, MSQ! JU used to once do GRO (almost 90km away from BCN) but sadly, the route stopped.
DeleteVec se leti za PMI a imate leti VY , za ASL ima toliko precih destinacija preko cele godine tako da ne znam sto se to u opste navodi.
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Anons 2:52 and 3:06,
DeleteWhat exactly is the role of the BEG management there? If Wizz think BEG-BCN would work for them, all they have to do is apply and they will get it.
If they don't apply and don't see the route would work for them, what is it that BEG management can do? Invite them to a meeting and show them some presentation that promotes the route? I am afraid Wizz are able to do their homework and cannot be persuaded just like that.
That leaves cash (because money talks) as the only 'capable' thing BEG management can do. Direct cash subsidies or special prices in BEG. However, Serbian government chose to fund its own carrier rather than LCCs, therefore BEG management cannot offer any incentives to Wizz. Wizz can only open BEG-BCN if there is enough demand among passengers for it.
BEG management are a bunch of incompetent fools, but I would really like to read your suggestions on what is exactly that they can do to make any carrier open BEG-BCN?
I agree with Anon @ 3:38. Another point though - Wizz is not looking to opening any risky routes in BEG as long as the current support scheme is in place allowing the domestic carrier to come on top and dump fares without paying taxes. FKB is an exception that confirms the rule.
DeleteAs for SKP having BCN due to airport management being capable.. don't even get me started. Just take TAV out of the equation altogether.
Yeah but by ignoring BEG they are making themselves vulnerable to an eventual 'attack' by Ryanair which has been expanding all over the region. However, this setup we have in BEG is not benefiting anyone really; everyone is at a loss, the passengers, Wizz Air, Air Serbia... and in case Ryanair was to enter the market the whole system would fall like a house of cards. The aviation business model in Serbia is not sustainable in the long-run.
DeleteWhat Nemjee described is very bad news for Air Serbia.
Delete@ Anon March 3, 2016 at 6:36 PM
DeleteWhat Nemjee have described is the pure reality.
Pure reality is bad for Air Serbia.
DeleteHahahah that last comment made me laugh! :D
Delete(in a good way, of course)
One word: наконец!
ReplyDeleteGreetings from Ukraine.
http://cs633529.vk.me/v633529496/19be1/COQGHEqy9z0.jpg
Tako je!:) pozdrav iz beograda
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DeleteKonacno opet komentarisete :).
DeleteINN-NS
Thank you INN, your first post was nice as well ;)
DeleteCheers!
Izbrisano samo radi drugi da se ne ljute opet
Delete=D .
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Here is a short analysis of this move. This is Air Serbia's first expansion to the East in two years which is more than welcome and follows a logical trend of every transfer airline to align and balance its network geographically, whereas a great disbalance could have been noticed as of now with roughly 70% of the traffic ex-BEG headed to Western Europe [O&D-shaped network] albeit without the necessary feed. As earlier forecasted, New York has proved to be the catalyst to fuel such a move and the much (if not urgently) needed growth in order to dispel any illusions of stagnation or that the airline has lost its direction. Albeit a small move, it sends a strong message to both the investors and to the competition. Although, as symbolically important as it is, Kiev won't be enough and a further expansion to LED, Ukraine (through codeshare with PS), ESB and CAI would be more than welcome in the foreseeable future. In the region, too much of an emphasis has been put onto the highly seasonal Croatian market while a much larger year-round one Romania has been downplayed if not ignored. Great move although more should come.
DeleteSta mislite o IKA posto ovde mnogi pisu da ne treba ASL da otvori tu destinaciju.
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IKA is a must however i tend to assume that there are currently no aircraft for it and operating it with a leased material is a no-go for Air Serbia's financial sheets at the moment. Another possibility is the use of Adria's fleet for those flights, if their cooperation goes beyond the summer flights to Kiev. Third factor to be taken into consideration is the blessing of Etihad over such a move which would indirectly compete with their own flights, however i consider that as a minor obstacle to those faced within the very Air Serbia's establishment, making todays Kiev the very Tehran.
DeleteAnother option would be for Air Serbia to fly to places not served by the Etihad group which is Shiraz, Tabriz, Esfahan...all that pending government approvals and ratification of a new ASA.
But still no official word from AS, why?
ReplyDeleteEx-Yu, are you informed about the slots?
DeleteAnd what about LED? Not confirmed yet.
DeleteWhat about Croatia launches, why they were ignored?
ReplyDeletehttp://www.exyuaviation.com/p/croatia-airlines-schedules-new-flights.html
DeleteHow were they ignored when they were announced here way before anywhere else?
DeleteBelgrade will be the only city in the region connected with Kiev.
Delete@ Anon March 3, 2016 at 10:15 AM
DeleteSofia as well with 3x weekly operated by Dniprovia.
And Banja Luka!
DeleteAnd Athens too plus Budapest has also links to Kiev.
DeleteFlightst from Kiev to:
DeleteDubrovnik - Ukraine international
Pula - Ukraine international and Windrose
Split - Ukraine international and Windrose
Tivat - Avatrans, Ukraine international and Windrose
To Tivat you have flights from other Ukraine airports:
Avatrans: Kiev-Zhulyany, Lviv, Odessa
Ukraine international: Donetsk, Kharkiv, Kiev-Boryspil, Lviv, Odessa, Zaporizhia
Windrose: Dnipropetrovsk, Kharkiv, Kiev-Boryspil, Lviv, Odessa
These are seasonal flights?
DeleteAnonymous at 10:15 AM
DeleteEPIC fail!
Still less epic compared to the fail of Anon at 9:52 AM.
DeleteDo Ukranians need visas to enter Serbia? If not, then as expected they will no longer need visas to EU Schengen states as of mid 2016 and thus more people are expected to travel and of course emmigrate. Good move ASL!
ReplyDeleteI think the visa regime was suspended a few years ago.
DeleteUkrainians don't need visas to enter Serbia
DeleteIn June or July the visas for the Schengen for Ukranians will be dropped.
DeleteNot so sure about Ukraine: http://www.rferl.org/content/eu-georgia-ukraine-visa-free-travel/27575694.html
DeleteUkrainians don't need visa for enter Serbia and Montenegro (they love the sea of Montenegro). Last year I traveled extensively in most of Ukraine I must admit that Ukrainians LOVE Serbians and people of Montenegro too.
DeleteThe vast majority if Ukrainians (Russian and Ukrainian ethnicity both) love Serbia, Montenegro (this last the most!).
DeleteA delay is probable for the EU visa free policy for Ukraine passport holders :(
Air Serbia's new destination (Kiev) rumor is on the main page but Croatia Airlines' introduction of 4 new routes is not. Very good ex-yu aviation, very good. Keep up the good work!
ReplyDeleteNot true. As I'm sure you are aware, Croatia Airlines' new route launches have been published on individual main page articles over the past month. Please refer to the following:
Delete- "Croatia Airlines to launch Milan service"
published February 4
- "Croatia Airlines to launch Prague service"
published February 19
- "Croatia Airlines plans St. Petersburg service"
published February 25
- "Croatia Airlines to launch Lisbon flights in May"
published March 1
When these routes were simply scheduled, the news was published in the news flash section, with full schedules available on the right hand side in the new route launches section since yesterday.
Concerning today's news, it was confirmed by an airport spokesperson, making it a bit more than a "rumour" as you suggest. Once it is scheduled, it will be published in the news flash section, as it has already been announced.
If you have any further quires in regards to the editorial policy, don't hesitate to contact exyu@exyuaviation.com
seems anon 11.23 AM got his knickers all in a twist for nothing! I would even say admin's answer is uneccessary for all people of good will and sane mind that follow this site. We know that the site is 'impartial' and politically super-correct, precisely not to provoke the idiots. What a waste of time and energy..
DeleteStupid nationalist.
DeleteNeko je ranije vec rekao da ce ASL leteti za MUC,CAI,KBP,LED and PRN od juna i da ce se sve objaviti u aprilu
ReplyDeleteASL may fly to KBP this summer, but surely not to LED. Confirmed.
DeleteNo aircraft for that.
DeleteDa nabave 2 A319 i naprave veci ekspanziju pred JFK letove . Da pocnu letovi za HEL , IKA ,AMM,TBS, ESB i naravno LED bice zanimljivo ko ce od 2 EX YU igraca da pobedi na kraju .
ReplyDeleteG Purger sta mislite ko ce odneti pobedu u LED , ja mislim ASL ako bude imala vise od 3-4 pw leta.
INN-NS
Da li si realan?AMM ruta iz Frankfurta leti sa A319.Dal si svjestan da nema ni para ni putnika za tu rutu.A ostale rute su realne.
DeleteDa dodam svoje misljene kada ASL otvori rutu za LED Croatia ce je ukinut i pre pocetka.
Nema tu OU što radit ako ASL krene na LED.
Delete@Guess
DeleteAli zato TK leti 2x dnevno za AMM, i to je najmanje jedan od tih letova sa A330. A3 povećava frekvencije, OS je redovan, mislim da ruta ima ozbiljan potencijal.
Aerodrom Nikola Tesla
ReplyDeleteFebruar 2016
Broj avio operacija: 3.924 - 3.898 -1%
Broj putnika: 264.813 - 266.260 +1%
Roba: 795.090 1.246.689kg +57%
Which equates to a fall of 3% y-o-y. Hint: February has 29 days this year vs 28 days last year.
DeleteCargo +57% OMG
Delete@4:14 Samo mi objasni po kojoj formuli si izracuno da je jedan dan vise u ovoj godini +4%??
DeleteNeko pre neki dan rece putnici -7%... los dan za botove ;)
Delete2015 (28 days): 264.813 = 9457,60/day
Delete29 days = 29 * 9457,60 = 274.271
2016 (29 days): 266.260
difference 2016/2015 (29 days) = 8.011 pax
Negative 8.011 pax = 3% decline
Simple as that.
Btw, it's called offsetting data to compensate for seasonal variations.
DeleteBez obzira na dan vise, pozitivan trend za BEG raduje ;)
DeleteOk hejteri, ako je već bitno što prošli februar nije imao 29 dana, onda napravite poredjenje sa poslednjim koji je imao, 2012. pa da vidimo rezultate...
DeleteFeb 2012 there was a 7% growth.
Deletelol wut
Deleteim not asking for then-growth, im asking for absolute numbers of FEb 2012 and their relation to Feb 2016 numbers. #pravimoseludi
#nepravimoseludi
Deleteactually, back in 2012 we had JU in its absolute worse state when they were on the brink of bankruptcy. So with a national carrier in that state for teh airport to record a 7% growth is really good. To have an airline backed by EY and with foreign management to fail to record any growth is pathetic.
Funny how nobody commented on the fact that JU is looking into secondary Romanian destination, Orodea specifically. What are your thoughts? Would it not be better to start Cluj, Sibiu or Iasi?
ReplyDeleteMy guess is this Oradea is offering big subsidies that's why they are talking with the,.
DeleteOradea is a great idea, especially if the municipality or county is offering incentives.
DeleteOT: Qatar starts with SJJ September, SKP October 2016. SKP-DOH 3x per week. SJJ-DOH 2 or 3x.
ReplyDeleteJa mislim da bi zbog ovoga EY trebao da salje wide-body kao odgovor na ovu ekspanziju.
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Jel wide-body se šalju ne radi profitabilnosti nego radi "odgovora". Ne misliš li da bi bolji odgovor EY bio slanje manjih aviona za ZAG, SJJ, SKP nego povečanje aviona za BEG?
DeleteEY does not care about this market since they did not launch anything in the region plus they have a lack of aircraft all the time
DeleteNe ako hocete da ponuditi dosta jeftiniju cenu saljete veci avion ali ne razumete o cemu pricam.
DeleteINN-NS
INN is right.
DeleteSource?
DeleteThis expansion is not aimed at EY or JU but at FZ. EY only flies to BEG because of JU, otherwise there would be no trace of them here.
DeleteDidn't someone mention that FZ was performing rather badly in SKP?
Regarding QR, seems that BEG will soon go to daily and ZAG to double daily, probably sometime during summer, year round. If that happens along with SJJ and SKP launch, that would mean QR really taking full lead in ex Yu region (noting that majority of TK demand is tied to Turkey so we cannot fully compare them).
DeleteNot sure how FZ performs in ZAG/BEG with QR increase and how and if will QR new SYD and ADL affect them considering superior QR frequencies?
They are also increasing OTP to double daily so it seems that the wider region is important to them.
DeleteTrue, forgot to mention OTP, but was thinking more in ex YU terms
DeleteOh yes, of course. Yesterday I was reading a very interesting analysis regarding Iran and their civil aviation sector and how their officials said that the aircraft they ordered will not only go to IR but will be distributed to other airlines as well. They also mentioned that they want to develop a hub system at IKA but they know that it will take between 5 and 10 years any of for their airlines become remotely relevant.
DeleteThis could also be one of the reasons why QR is rushing to position itself in all of these markets. They know that it will be a difficult war fighting both Turkish Airlines and whatever Iranian airline emerges as the dominant player (my money is on Mahan).
On top of all that, there are also airlines such as Pegasus and Atlasjet which are slowly becoming important regional players. One can only imagine what will happen once the new airport in Istanbul becomes fully functional!
With Saudia consolidating and the emergence of Iran, one can wonder what will happen with Etihad which is currently the weakest airline among the MEB3.
It is pretty likely that QR is overcapacitating ex YU market for now to fully cements itself and probably keep off some other players entering as they will need to invest much more than few weekly frequencies in case of BEG or ZAG.
DeleteAm very curious to see how QR develops further in ex YU in a year or two! Major advantage over EK is having narrow body in this case.
As for EY, I think they are slowly lagging behind, at least in size. Time will tell if their 'alliance based on investments' strategy will hold and yield results and give them overall netwrok advantage over QR.
Seems that QR will announce 12 new routes during ITB next week - they are in full swing at the moment.
Definitely but I think when you look at it long-term they will do well because they are efficiently run, they've built a brand and they've become a reliable carrier with a good product.
DeleteThere is a new entrant on the market and it's Oman Air. It will be interesting to see how far they will go in mirroring what others have done. I fear that soon there might be too many seats/airlines in this particular region and someone will have to lose. I don't think anyone will go bankrupt but it's not easy when you have two ego-maniac airlines in the region chronically competing at who will operate the longest flight or whatever first they can get. Not to mention that Emirates with all of their A380s will become a monster.
Before Iran opens up, Etihad must build an efficient hub and they must grow because later on might become a bit too late. Just look at what TK has been doing to them.
As far as ex-YU goes, we might end up profiting the most from this ego-war. Flydubai might clash with Qatar resulting in dirt cheap fares.
Just to add, I wouldn't be surprised if QR ends up having at least 10 weekly at BEG, ZAG, LJU, SKP, SJJ and who knows... maybe even PRN.
DeleteThe biggest potential danger for FZ is them moving to DWC before EK does.
DeleteI wish I knew how does FZ in BEG and ZAG do when we remove DXB bound traffic!
I think that MEB3 went too far already for WY and the likes, but they can definitely grow more over geo position and copy/paste strategy.
A posebno je isplativo poslat wide-body ako nemaš putnika za njega. Što misliš Marko, jel lakša napuniti dva dnevna A330 za BEG ili dva A320 za BEG i jedan A320 za ZAG?
DeleteQR are planning as well VAR service from next year.
DeleteYou guys CERTAINLY forgot about our beloved Turkish neighbours and about TK! In a couple of years, IST will be the world´s largest airport and they will be grand. TK might not need 150 A380´s like EK but they will fly to even more destinations worldwide and the competition will just be fiercer.
DeleteJa ne znam da li ste culi za Hub sistem , ne puni TK 77W gradjanima Istanbula nego iz celog sveta tako bi i EY punio A330 sa ljudima iz Ex yu .
DeleteA za ASL najbolje bi bilo da ima Flotu samo od A321 i A330 kao sto je jednom G Stojanovic napisao ali to ne razumeju ljudi koji ne znaju .
INN-NS
Actually, 'only' 28% of TK's passengers are connecting from an international flight onto another international flight. The rest is all coming from IST and the domestic market. So I would say that the local market is still the main source of TK's growth.
DeleteThe reason why I didn't mention TK in my previous comments is because I put them in the same category as the Iranian ones while the discussion was mostly on the MEB3 and their future.
Pegasus is adding another 5 B738 to their fleet and they have already built a nice hub at SAW. It will be interesting to see how things develop in that region, ATH included. What will be especially interesting to see is what Pegasus and Atlasjet do once the new airport is built. Will they move some of their operations there and how aggressively will they expand. Onur Air is another carrier that has shown interest at establishing a true hub system but it was extremely difficult because of space restrictions at IST.
Finally, I don't think it would be a good thing for JU to go after European passengers who would be connecting at BEG and AUH on their way to Asia. These would be extremely low-yielding and that is one group of travelers JU could do without.
Naravno INN jel zato Etihad ima samo A321, i čista je laž da ima 23 A320 i 2 A319 (što je 21% njihove flote).
DeleteHub susav je odlična stvar, ali kakve to veze ima sa Etihadom koji feeda SVOJ hub u ABU DHABIU?
Talking of Greece, it was announced that in 2015 around 3.000 Iranian tourists visited the country while this year more than 20.000 are expected. It was mentioned that Aegean is considering increasing IKA to daily while Mahan is evaluating direct flights to the Greek islands. Iran Air is currently looking at ATH as well. IR has announced more flights to FRA, AMS, LHR, CGN...
DeleteIt was also announced that there will be more links to Iran by Ukrainian airlines:
KBP-IKA-KBP 2x from end of March, Dniproavia
DNK-IKA-DNK, 1x weekly by Dniproavia
Kiev-Shiraz-Kiev, 3x weekly by UIA
Mind you, UIA already increased IKA to daily and has replaced the E95 with a B737. If I am not mistaken they are the second European airline to launch a secondary Iranian city after Austrian Airlines announced Esfahan.
Really interesting developments.
Ko prica o EY hub sistemu samo vi ne razumete o cemu ja pricam i nigde nisam spomenuo da EY treba da menja svoju flotu prvo naucite da citate.
DeleteSvako uvodi IKA trebalo bi i ASL dok ne osvoje drugi previse to trziste.
I sta mislis Nemjee sto uporno nece da uvedu taj let neverujem da je mnogo zbog EY.
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UIA is introducing Venice from the start of the summer season, one of the top ATR destinations for ASL that we often forget to talk about.
DeleteAn extract from the article mentionning PS plans for Shiraz:
"Shiraz, which only sees flights from international carriers like Qatar Airways and Turkish Airlines will benefit huge from the new route to Kiev. The most used gateway from Europe to Shiraz is via the one daily flight offered by Turkish Airlines. Turkish Airlines has expressed its interest in increasing flights to Shiraz. However, with UIA having the same key destinations as Turkish Airline, example such as London, Paris, Frankfurt and Stockholm, the airline can be a threath to the monopolized Turkish Airlines route to Shiraz. UIA currently offers daily flights from the mentioned European capitals to Tehran with competitive prices, reasonable transit times and on board products. UIA could, and is going by high chance to apply the same concept on the 3 weekly flights to Shiraz, and gain a bit of the market share from Turkish Airlines. UIA will of course compete with Qatar Airways too, however, the competition UIA is entering is more in the field where Turkish Airlines currently enjoys the profits. It is worth mentioning that UIA recently increased its flights to Tehran."
Dete da te podsetim da je rasprava krenula oko toga da bi EY trebao da krene sa A330. To si ti rekao, a ja ti kažem da za to treba da imaš putnika (i ova frekvencija od 2x A320 je mnogo) i da bi za Etihadov sistem huba bolje bilo da otvara linije po exYU ko i Qatar i Turkish nego da povečava BEG.
DeleteIsto tako sam ti reko da je A321 all fleet glupost jer to nema niko, čak ni LCC, a još manje AF, BA, LH, TK... čak ni Etihad koji je tebi sve nema samo A321 nego mu 21% flote čine A320 i A319. Air Serbia bi bila valjda jedina kompanija u svetu da leti samo sa A321.
Tako da ne izokrečeš stvari Marko.
OT: Adria's pilots announced strike for 18th March.
ReplyDeleteSomething related to the new owner?
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ReplyDeleteT6 OBJAVIO NOVO OTKAZIVANJE PORUDZBINE SSJ100. PO SVEMU SUDECI TO JE UVOD U SKORI KRAJ PROJEKTA.
What's that airline? Sounding by the name it won't mean much for the SSJ project and with the MS-21 there's more to come.
DeleteIf they are referring to VLM then it's nothing surprising, that airline is about to go belly up.
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ReplyDeleteCan somebody please tell me where you can find seat maps for Air Serbia's jfk flights? I cannot find them anywhere... thank you.
Click on seat map under A330
Deletehttp://www.airserbia.com/en-RS/our-fleet
No, I'm talking about "popunjenost" for certain days. Checking for each days seeing how many seats are booked on each schedule flight.. ??
DeleteBy the way, they didn't count the seat-number right on their B737. It's 144 and not 134 :)
DeleteUse ExpertFlyer to check loads, the monthly subscription is 5$.
DeleteAnd that is how we have 71% LF. Easy way...
DeleteOU700 ZAG0800 - 1015LIS 100 135
ReplyDeleteOU701 LIS1105 - 1515ZAG 100 135
OU390 ZAG1745 - 1925MXP DH4 257
OU391 MXP2000 - 2130ZAG DH4 257
OU320 ZAG0820 - 0950PRG DH4 X135
OU321 PRG1040 - 1205ZAG DH4 x135
OU530 ZAG1420 - 1800LED 319 47
OU531 LED1900 - 2050ZAG 319 47
Isn't it easier like this
Deletehttp://www.exyuaviation.com/p/croatia-airlines-schedules-new-flights.html
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DeleteHere are some more info on the DBV-IKA flights. There will be a total of 8 flights over a three week period to be operated by Limitless Airways. First flight will take place on 18.03.2016.
ReplyDeleteFrom what I could see, flights will operate on Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
Most flights will depart IKA at 09.00 and arrive to DBV at 17.10.
Thanks nemjee for the info! :)
DeleteOT: Hungary offers 5th freedom to ME3 carriers:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-03-03/hungary-opens-door-for-emirates-to-provide-lost-air-link-to-u-s
Without checking the details, I would suggest Etihad should entertain the offer, with condition that flights could be operated by Etihad Partner metal with 5th freedom granted to country of that Etihad Partner.
Then get Air Serbia to fly BEG-BUD-MIA or BEG-BUD-LAX etc, with JFK, ORD and YYZ being flown direct from BEG. I know that one stop flights are not the most efficient, but seems worth it to get Air Serbia long haul bigger than LO and possibly OS in no time.
And you think that Etihad will simply give it to JU? You think JU is their only concern? How about AB?
DeleteHungary looks at Belgrade getting New York flight while they are stuck with no-widebody Wizz. If Hungarians could fly JU from BUD to USA, why not Montenegrings with JU from TIV, or Slovenes with JU from LJU to USA etc?
Delete@ Anon March 4, 2016 at 1:09 PM
DeleteComparing BEG to BUD is ridiculous...
Nothing to do with 'mine is bigger'. JU could fly to more destinations in the USA through BUD and Hungary has a need Wizz can't deliver.
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