Lufthansa plans to maintain flights from Frankfurt to Belgrade, Zagreb, Ljubljana, Skopje and Sarajevo, as well as from Munich to Belgrade, Zagreb and Ljubljana this coming winter season, which begins on October 29 and runs until March 30, with services and capacity to be increased on all routes.
Lufthansa intends on operating 575 flights to Belgrade, up 13.9% on last winter. The airline will maintain double daily rotations from both Frankfurt and Munich. It will offer 88.692 seats each way, up 29.4%. Apart from the increased number of flights, the airline is also upgrading capacity, with services from Munich to be operated by a mix of Airbus A319 aircraft, which have the capacity to seat 138 and 144 passengers, as well as the 90-seat CRJ900 jet rather than the 122-seat E195 and the CRJ900, which were predominately used last winter. Lufthansa will run a total of 484 flights to Zagreb and will offer 47.916 seats each way. This is up 37.9% and 39.9% on last winter respectively. Frequencies will vary depending on the time of season but will start off with thirteen weekly services from Frankfurt and ten from Munich. Capacity will be increased on the Munich route with more services planned with the A319 jet instead of the CRJ900 when compared to last winter, although both aircraft types will be deployed on the route.
The German carrier will operate a total of 450 flights to Ljubljana, representing an increase of 16.9% on the 2022/23 winter. It has put 44.940 seats on sale each way, which is up 23.1%. Overall, Lufthansa will maintain double daily flights from Frankfurt and daily from Munich to the Slovenian capital. The capacity growth is being fuelled by services from Munich. Lufthansa plans to deploy its A319 on the service from the start of the winter season on four of its weekly flights, while the remaining three weekly rotations will be run by the CRJ900. Last winter, the A319 was introduced into service on the route later on in the season, with the majority of flights being operated by the CRJ900s.
Skopje will be featured in Lufthansa’s winter network after the carrier launched operations from Frankfurt to the Macedonian capital this April. The airline has scheduled 217 flights on the route and has 36.456 seats on sale each way. With ten weekly rotations, all flights are currently planned to be operated by the A320-family fleet. Lufthansa will run 154 flights between Frankfurt and Sarajevo this winter, up 25%. In total, the airline has 21.252 seats available to the capital of Bosnia and Herzegovina, an increase of 19%. All flights on the route, which will be operated daily, are currently scheduled to be performed with the A319 aircraft. Changes at this early stage, particularly with equipment, remains possible.
It's impressive that they have more flights to Skopje than Sarajevo considering they just started flying to Skopje.
ReplyDeleteIt helps that they get subsidies on the SKP route.
DeleteHuge diaspora, SKP is connected to many German villages as well.
DeleteEven more impressive that they are using Airbus family aircraft on all flights.
DeleteSkopje is a bigger city than Sarajevo.
DeleteStill, flights just started the other month.
Delete@9.10 lol
DeleteTrue but SJJ has bigger catchment area, so it's still underwhelming
Delete@10.07 highly debatable. SJJ is in the middle of nowhere tbh
DeleteSJJ is much more visted than SKP especially in summer
Deleteok everything is better in Srajevo just stop this
Deleteaviation market (from the West) in MK is larger then in BH and thats the simple reason
DeleteI think JU and OU have also more capacity to SKP then SJJ
DeleteThere are around 180k Macedonians and 230k Bosnians in Germany. I guess Bosnians go more often by car because it’s closer( especially if you live in south Germany). Also there is a quite large Macedonian group who fly 5-6 times to Macedonia a year. The Macedonian diaspora in North America is larger than the Bosnian so that helps. Also the Macedonian diaspora is financially very stable in Germany.
DeleteDo you all really think that the huge diaspora in Germany is the one which makes the flights full and profitable? We at SKP have over 50 weekly flights to Germany and i dont think that the diaspora is coming here or there on every flight. They come once or twice per year, usually during the holidays where more flights are added. And for what villages are u talking about? Hahn, DTM, FMM and FDH? That is four out of 11 routes to germany we have. Cologne, Berlin and Hamburg are also holiday destinations, especially Cologne during the winter holidays. Macedonia is overall better then Bosnia and that is why we have more flights, and more traffic then SJJ. Skopje is the second biggest city in exyu so it makes sense. You can compere sjj with lju not with skp.
Delete"Skopje is the second biggest city in exyu"
DeleteSince when? Lol
Haha "Skopje is a much bigger city than Sarajevo", is this a joke of some kind?!
DeleteWell, actually Skopje IS larger than Sarajevo. check it out. I had to too ;)
DeleteI'm sure it's also the second largest in ex-Yu lol.
DeleteActually is third largest in exyu, behind beg and zag, in fact skopje is the longest city in exyu.
Delete@13:06 You really thought that Sarajevo is bigger then Skopje? Learn some geography my friend.
DeleteSKP has more traffic because of its geography and because of the large Albanian diaspora. SJJ also has gasto traffic but a much more visited destination in general. You cannot compare Mostar to Ohrid.
DeleteIt was known in Jugoslavija that Skopje is the third largest town after Belgrade and Zagreb
Delete@16:25 did u know that 1 million people live in Skopje? Not to mention those that come in our city from provincija every day cuz they work here. It is nit true that the albanian diaspora is the one we should be thankful to for these pax numbers that we have at the moment, come at the airport and see who is travelling and where before u write nonsense. Every night we have 6 to 7 charter flights to Turkey, Tunis and Egypt, every flights of LOT is full with Polish people and Scandinavians. Sjj is ot even open during the early morning hours yet...
DeleteLol Polish and Scandinavians he says. SKP became the capital of fashion and everybody goes there! The things you hear sometimes from the SKP fanboys is incredible and they want to compare themselves with SJJ. We all also know why SKP is large, but this is an aviation portal and not historic one.
DeleteWell go on the square are see yourself if there are tourists here or not, as u can see i am not saying such things about sarajevo as i dont live there. Typical Balkan who thinks that he knows everything...
Delete'One millions people in Skopje' .... really?!?!
DeleteReally! SO MANY people travel to Skopje every day! It definitely has a population of 1 m. Half of the country is in Skopje! And Skopje is definitely not second biggest city. Third sounds more accurate :)
DeleteNo, not really. 500k. Marginally bigger than Sarajevo, but as insignificant as Sarajevo in European context.
DeleteLH having flights to STL helps boost the SJJ route and I’m sure some of SKP a bit also, and doesn’t hurt the rest of Ex Yu countries, let’s hope they make STL a daily flight to keep it going.
DeleteMy wiener is bigger/longer/thicker than your wiener! - OMG. Are you still in cought in puberty?
DeleteExcellent news for all airports involved
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't celebrate too early. This summer they cancelled all planned growth from Munich and delayed by several months Frankfurt growth.
DeleteSummer growth is quite different than winter growth when there are not major issues with staffing and capacity.
DeleteThis will be most felt in Ljubljana considering low levels of traffic. Great news
ReplyDeleteStill, there is just 16,9% of capacity increase in LJU, even there is the last number of flights.
DeleteNot really. Even last winter they planned more then they operated at the end. There is no increase in frequencies nor improvement of schedule and there is still no MUC morning flight.
DeleteThe good thing there is a morning Munich flight from summer 24.
DeleteDo any of you who constantly bash LJU connections even fly?? Don’t think so! The current MUC connection is still good - it allows me to catch LH’s Boston flight for example even without a “morning flight”. You just read or hear something and then repeat it constantly without any real personal experience.
Deleteand Boston from MUC is A380! Enjoy
DeleteIt works for some destinations, but for intra-Europe connections it's far from optimal. To fly back to Ljubljana it's even much worse. I fly a lot (*A gold status, 60 legs per year), but in the last 2 years I NEVER used MUC, only FRA, ZRH and BRU.
DeleteMore money from the region going to German companies...
ReplyDeleteVery few countries in the region have their own airline to operate these flights.
DeleteWhat's wrong with that?
DeleteThat your money is supporting the industry of another country rather than your own.
Delete@9.54 lmao
DeleteAnon 09:54
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Sad you look at it that way. You could perhaps see it as “more money coming into the region from Germany”. Flights aren’t a one way street. Very self-deprecating way of thinking.
Delete@10.55 whom are you telling that haha just let them keep thinking one way
Delete@10:55 Haters never see it like that. They don't see that these foreign airlines bring diaspora and tourists to the Balkans. All they see is Lufthansa and they complain instantly.
DeleteIf it wasn't for an economic powerhouse like Germany having jobs available, this little corner of Europe would be even poorer. Lots of pointless jealousy of more economically developed nations on here.
DeleteAnyone else notice the "JAT" sign on the photo behind the plane :D
ReplyDeleteIt is the Jat Tehnika hangar :)
DeleteAh thanks. So it is in BEG.
Deleteyes
DeleteBravo Serbia! 🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸
ReplyDeleteDidn't know LH is from Serbia
DeleteIf there is a Bravo Hrvatska, then there must be a Bravo Serbia, pozdrav iz Rijeke ;)
DeleteThey are clearly very dominant in the whole region especially when you compare to the likes of AF and KL.
ReplyDeleteAnd even more if you compare it with BA.
DeleteBA especially.
DeleteGermany basically owns the whole Balkans....Fraport, LH Group, German brands everywhere. France and Britain have very little influence. Not a big surprise. I mean Greek and Bulgarian airports, LJU, Croatia and now SKP. Also Antalya....
DeleteLufthansa flying to Skopje means Germany owns the Balkans?
DeleteMaybe you shouldn't comment if you don't understand what people talk about
Deletethese comments make me giggle everytime when its known that more then half of the ExYu exports go to a single country and that is Deutschland. Imagine the industry of our small mega strong countries without Germany
Delete10:39 - It’s Balkan grandiosity at its worst. WE have to be the ones doing everything! If there are flights coming into our region from other countries, it’s somehow considered bad. That’s madness!! I lived in the UK and every company coming into our regional airport was hailed and seen as bringing in new people and money and opportunities, despite it being foreign. Yet here LH sees more opportunities and somehow we’re the victims. Absolute madness.
Delete11:01 I think the entire Balkan is the most interesting and naturally diversified region in Europe. Such a shame that there is no union and need to depend on German or Austrian companies to sustain the economies. Balkans have beautiful land, history, landscape, people basically wherever you go. LH knows this.
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DeleteWell Slavic union is a huge threat to Germany and aviation in europe.
Austria only grew because there is no Yugoslavia
Istanbul is only the size it is because there is no Yugoslavia.
We dont depend on them, they set up the system so you have no option but to use them. That why this cooperation with Uganda is such great news and I hope they do it. It signifies growth and opportunity outside EU control.
Let's just hope it doesn't end up like this summer when they announced extra frequencies and then had to cancel everything because of a lack of staff.
ReplyDeleteThey should have enough staff during the winter.
DeleteWe will see. Still too early.
DeleteExactly my thought, all sounds great until they reverse it back to the usual in October.
DeleteLufthansa has been performing well in Belgrade. Not surprised by the growth there.
ReplyDeleteI was hoping Lufthansa will consider operations from Munich to Skopje, I think they can safely fill in a CRJ with connections and local demand but maybe that will happen next summer.
ReplyDeleteI also think it can work, at least a few times a week.
DeleteWould be interesting to see what is the structure of their passengers from/to SKP. Is it mostly transfers?
DeleteI believe it is predominately transfers.
Deletelet them first settle down with the FRA route... then MUC with four weekly evening/early morning flights maybe so they have 2x daily
DeleteThere are daily flights from Munich Memmingen airport.
Deletesure but they are going for a different clientele i guess :)
DeletePity they don't fly to Montenegro in winter.
ReplyDeleteThey barely fly to Montenegro in summer either.
DeleteThey fly to Tivat something like once per week during the summer.
Deleteeven Wizz flies only 2 weekly to FMM and DTM
DeleteI wonder why they have never considered it. They could easily fill a 100 seater a few times per week.
Deleteits just too seasonal
DeleteWhats the OS frequency in summer and winter?
And how many flights to Air Serbia and Croatia Airlines have to FRA/MUC this winter?
ReplyDeleteCroatia Airlines has 3 daily flights to Frankfurt, 2 to Vienna, 2 to Munich, 2 to Brussels (except Saturdays) and 2 to Zurich.
DeleteCrazy
DeleteWell, they practically don't fly anywhere else, they have to use their fleet somehow:))
DeleteNo need for extra flights to Zagreb when Croatia Airlines runs loads of flights to Lufthansa hubs. Croatia Airlines has 3 daily flights to Frankfurt, 2 to Vienna, 2 to Munich, and 2 to Zurich.
ReplyDeleteI wonder how many passengers LH handles to ex-yu each year.
ReplyDeleteProbably a million or so.
DeleteTheir prices have become really expensive.
ReplyDeleteI find, at least from BEG, that they have become really expensive on transferring to other European destinations. they used to be very competitive but now not anymore.
DeleteMore Lufti. Beautiful.
ReplyDeleteDanke Deutschland!
DeleteI know. If it wasn't for Germany this part of Europe would be even more impoverished.
DeleteIf it wasn't for Germany some other countries would find their interest in that part of Europe, for example to manufacture EV batteries.
DeleteLH isn't at all what they used to be. I was flying recently BER-MUC. Worse experience than on Ryan or Wizz. Very strict about the luggage allowance. A bagpack could not be considered as a personal item. So if you had a trolley and a bagpack, you had to put your trolley in the hold. Because of this, the plane was delayed... On board, a small bottle of water and a small chocolate (the crew was giving you strictly one chocolate per person). I read recently that it costs them 0,33 EUR per person.
ReplyDeleteJust another low-cost, but it will take people a few years to realize that...
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Deletedoesnt sound worse then Ryan or Wizz, not at all.
Delete@11:01 Maybe it is a matter of expectations.
DeleteI fly both Ryan and Wizz on a regular basis and I was never told that my bagpack is too big to be considered a personal item. The moment something fits under the seat in front of you, they are fine with that.
try geting a trolley for "free" at Ryan/Wizz (it cost 20-30€ one way with Wizz, dont know about FR)
DeleteOf course, you cannot get a trolley for free on Ryan/Wizz. It is a different business model. But try buying a 15 EUR ticket on LH (I recently bought on Ryan for CRL-VRN). If you buy a priority, you will still pay less than on LH and you will be treated fairly. For me the only advantage of LH (and many other legacy airlines) is the airports they use. I am talking obviously about the economy class :)
DeleteI still don't understand why all the services from FRA to LJU are operated 18 times per week with the CRJ-900, and not the A319 as last summer
ReplyDeleteLH with service to LJU is pure JOKE.
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