Friday, April 24, 2015

Air Croatia suspends flights until June

Air Croatia temporarily grounded

Start-up Air Croatia has temporarily suspended all services, just weeks in from its launch. In a statement to the “Ch-Aviation” portal, the company said the firm responsible for processing their credit card transactions had failed to forward funds to the airline, leading to Air Croatia’s inability to pay for the wet-lease of Denim Air’s ATR 42, which it uses to maintain flights. As EX-YU Aviation News learns, passengers who have booked tickets with the company have been informed of the issue and will be given further instructions in due course. Air Croatia says all of its flights have been suspended until June 2 by which time it hopes to resolve outstanding issues with its payments.

Air Croatia launched flights on April 2 with a 48-seat ATR turboprop leased from Dutch-based Denim Air, operating from Zagreb to Budapest, Prague, Rome and Milan. Services to Budapest were suspended until June shortly after they were inaugurated, although the company continued to maintain flights to the latter three destinations. Recently, Air Croatia announced it would also launch services to Mostar and Nuremberg, however, these plans have now been shelved. The company does not hold an Air Operator’s Certificate (AOC), using the one held by Denim Air instead. Spanish airline Aeronova provided the crew on all services. The company faced no direct competition on any of its routes.

Originally, Air Croatia was to inaugurate flights last summer, but they were delayed until December before being pushed back to March and then again to April this year. At first, the company planned to wet-lease a ČSA Czech Airlines Airbus A319 and then an Estonian Air Embraer E170 jet, but only recently decided to switch to Denim Air’s ATR. According to its current schedule, services to Budapest and Prague are set to resume on June 2, while flights to Rome and Milan are expected to follow suit on June 3. Just last week the company said it had sold 300 tickets in a special five day promotional sale campaign. 

117 comments:

  1. R.I.P.
    I will eat my hat if they ever fly again. Another company on the long list of "airlines" failing with Denim Air.

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  2. Well that lasted long. Still can't beat Dalmatian's record. They sold tickets and didn't even fly...

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    1. Dalmatian, which fully refunded all customers, stated in their communique that they couldn't resolve the issues in short time. They never said they suspended operations for good.

      And they will start again, and they will take-off, sooner or later

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  3. Why don't they just quit it? This "airline" took the news of the day too many times, I suggest to put it in the section on the left now on.

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  4. Ova Air Croatia me dosta podseća na nesretni Manx2. Virtuelna avio kompanija koja samo prodaje karte dok posade, avione i održavanje obezbeđuje neko drugi, treći ili peti.

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    1. Manx2 je vaskrsao kao CityWing.
      Pavle

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  5. Neki dan sam bio u PRG, i vidio sam njihov avion na pisti. Tako da su bolji od BWA, cak su i poletjeli :D

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  6. 300 people bought tickets with them! wow

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    1. First, I think this "airline" is just testing market in ZAG for something "bigger" to come. Maybe I'm wrong, but we'll see.

      Second. They didn't sell 300 tickets altogether. They sold them in 5 days, for 9 weekly flights they operate(d), for the plane capacity 48 seats. Let's do some maths now: 9 flights x 48 seats is 432 seats offered in a week, or divided by 7, is 61 seat offered per day. If they sold 300 tickets in 5 days, that is 60 tickets a day SOLD for 61 seats a day offered, which is practically 100%. So, your wow which meant to be LOL is actually REAL WOW, and it's not impossible that they come back in a month time with the bigger plane, as originally planned, or just use this numbers for some further action

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    2. My wow was an actual wow. I was not being sarcastic.

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    3. In that case I apologize.

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    4. Anon 4:40

      Can you please explain me where do you get 9 flights/week? If you consider FCO, MPX, PRG and BUDall being 3pw that is 12 weekly flights and 24 rotations. 24 rotations x 48 seats is 1152 seats offered. Also, you are implying that those 300 tickets sold are all for the same week, hence their load is “practically 100%”In reality this could be spread over 3-4 months as it probably is.

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    5. BUD flights suspended the second day of operations, so it's not 12 but 9 flights.

      Concerning one way flight or rotation, you cannot discuss it until you don't know are the tickets sold one-way, or return tickets, as it is not stated in the article. However, in 90% situations, people buy return ticket, not one way. Therefore my maths is ok, as ONE ticket sold is generraly sold for TWO flights, as you count them, or one rotation, out- and in-bound.

      And third, even if tickets are sold for 3-4 months period, it changes nothing, as the same capacity is on offer during those 3-4 months, so the numbers remain the same

      Fourth, I'm not here to quarell and argue. And even if it's 60%, not 100%, by your maths, it's still not bad fir the first weeks of operations, and is completely different from what people here want to show as total disaster. Just to show other possibility was the purpose of my post. Sorry if you missed it.

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    6. And yet they canceled all oeprations, exactly the same way everybody said they would.

      I appropriate your enthusiasm and i wish them all the best but for some reason I doubt it.

      You pay for someone else plane, crew, ground handling etc. and still manage to make money... Hmm, if that could work everybody would be doing it.

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    7. Anon 5:57,

      BUD was supposedly to restart on July 1 that's why I counted it.

      Sorry i might be stupid but I still don't understand what your percentage really means. Lats say they offer 61 seats daily 9more or less deasn't matter). In one week of sales (as the text stipulates) they sold over 300 tickets (you are right we don't know if this is return tickets but it's safe to say most of them are). OK, so what does this tells us? To me that says that in one week of sales they sold 300 or 600 seats out of the total capacity they have scheduled for 3-4 months.. So in one week they sold almost 5 days worth of capacity/seats. So, i still don't get what are you trying to say without% or 60%. 60% of what? 100 or 60% of 5 days worth of capacity? If yes I agree with you but that to me says absolutely nothing, it might be a good result, I do't know what is considered good forward booking for a start up.

      Also, one other thing you have to consider that early adopters are early adopters. Combined with promotional sale it usually means that once they are and promotions are gone, sales tend to come down to their natural levels. So, even in this case 300 doesn't really mean much.

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  7. They had a good network. I doubt they will come back in June. Don't know who would want to fly them again.

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  8. Does anyone working at ZAG airport know what their loads were like?

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  9. This can't be the reason for suspending the flights for 6 weeks. If it is, than it's a major fail of their treasury/finance department.
    I wouldn't write them off just yet.

    my2cents

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    1. What do you think is the actual reason?

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    2. Problem with the card processing company should be resolved in a matter of hours/days, not 6 weeks.
      If demand is the problem, then it's really bad, since it indicates they can't even cover variable costs. Otherwise, they'd be flying, in order to minimize losses from wet lease (which is the fixed cost).

      my2cents

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  10. Is there any way to regulate this? After Dalmatian now Air Croatia. I know they don't have Croatian AOC but still the Croatian aviation authority should do something

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    1. What to do? They have right to try to establish new company. Also I do not see anything frong with exYu following it.

      Why rich people from Nis wait for Wizz Air for flights from their town?

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    2. There has to be some type of government agency who is responsible for consumer rights. They could do something about this.

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  11. Over the past couple of days, I've seen a few comments regarding visiting in Belgrade while transiting at the city's airport, and visiting the city as non-Serbs from one of the neighbouring countries of Serbia.

    Well, I'm both a Bosniak and have spent time in the city while waiting for my flight back to AUH on the way home to Australia from Bosnia and Herzegovina. This was in January, 2015.

    Here are some pointers:

    - Visit the transfer desk at Belgrade Airport and let them know of your intentions. If travelling with an Australian passport, you will have no problems as we can visit Serbia for 90 days without a visa.
    - When you pass the customs and border protection officers, make sure to collect a voucher for your taxi ride to the city. The voucher not only ensures that you ride with a registered taxi cab, but it also has a fixed price – the 25-minute ride to the old part of Belgrade cost me 1,800 RSD (A$20.80). In the meantime, if another taxi driver approaches you and offers you a ride, politely refuse!
    - Having spent 15 minutes at the airport, and 25 minutes to get to the city, I spent 4 hours sightseeing in the city proper.
    - I managed to walk around Belgrade Fortress (Kalemegdan), checking out some of the gorgeous ladies, admiring the weaponry and taking some beautiful photos from the monument. There are also many popcorn and ice cream vendors all over the Fortress. Then I walked down Knez Mihailova Pedestrian Street and visited a bookshop. I then bought a burek and yoghurt, a drink and a newspaper, and found a bench to sit down and eat my dinner. By the time I finished that and read a bit of the newspaper, it was time to wrap up my (unfortunately) short time in Belgrade and head to the airport.
    - The taxi ride from Republic Square, or Trg republike, took 30 minutes, and the process of going through security and passport control at Belgrade Airport took another 15 minutes.
    - No, the Serbs don’t give a rat about your accent, ethnicity, religion, skin colour or anything else that would differentiate you from the average Serb, whatever that means. I got around saying ‘kruh’ and ‘lijevo,’ was given my little tub of yoghurt for free from the woman in the bakery as she said ‘we hope to see you again in Belgrade,’ and both of the taxi drivers were very curious about both myself, and the country I call home, Australia. Belgrade is a cosmopolitan city – I had no problem, and nor should you, unless of course, you start to sing ‘Evo zore, evo dana’ in the middle of Knez Mihailova! As my father always says, ne traži guzici čepa!

    I apologise for my long post, but I just wanted to clarify things for the people who are sceptical about visiting Belgrade as non-Serbs from the neighbouring countries, and those who are sceptical about whether or not they should go into the city for such a short stay!

    Cheers!

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    1. Nice post, thanx :)

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    2. Thank you! I would just like to see other side, e.g.Non Croats (read Serbs) in Zagreb

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    3. I guess I can help here.

      Two years ago I had a stopover returning home to YYZ from SJJ. We had an early morning flight ZAG-CDG-YYZ so we decided to leave SJJ a day earlier. This was our first time ever in Zagreb and I booked us a hotel close to the city center. Cab drivers both ways were pleasant with nice Mercedes E Class cars. I didn’t need to buy any vouchers o. I find or anything. Wherever I go I tend to talk to cab drivers about local situation, economy, politics etc. That’s my way of getting a feel for the city and people that live in it.. One of them was a bit shy at first but then he started telling me how “Hercegovci” took over everything and how bad they are etc. It was very funny. And he started telling us this only after finding that we are Bosnian Serbs with the Canadian passport.
      We spend a whole day just wondering around without any special plan. We had a nice meal in the nearby restaurant. I have a what you would call heavy Sarajevo accent. In itself that doesn’t mean anything since Sarajevo is populated by all three nations but I wasn't shy about the fact that I’m Serbian. Needless to say, I had no problem whatsoever and would have no problem going again. Zagreb is very nice city to visit for 2-3 days. I can see why a lot of westerners visit it. Everything is clean, cars are properly parked, there are tourist type signs everywhere, waiters in restaurants seem to all speak several languages etc, etc.. I like Belgrade very much and it’s the only city I would ever live in if I was to return to exYu but I have to admit that Zagreb was ahead in this department. At least this was my impression at the time.

      Anon 11:54, I like your “ne traži guzici čepa” saying and I agree with it 100%. I’m sure as a Serbian in Zagreb if you are looking for trouble you’ll have no problem finding it, but as long as one can park a BG license plate car and not expect damaged windshield I think that’s OK. This is what happened to two of my friends in Dubrovnik and Sibenik. I’m not saying that this is a rule but it just happens that I know those people first hand. I wouldn't expect this at the coast though since people there depend lot more on tourism dollar but I guess logic doesn't apply all the time

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    4. @ 11:54
      Nice post. You said you were "both," both what?

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    5. @Anonymous 5:48 PM, by being 'both,' I attempted to address both those concerned if it was worthwhile visiting Belgrade for such a short amount of time while they transit through the city's airport, and those non-Serbs from the neighbouring countries who were wondering whether it was 'safe' for them to visit Belgrade at all!

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  12. How come they can run an airline if they even dont have enough money for wet leasing.. what a joke!

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  13. Oh, I'm surprised that nobody yet wrote: Air Croatia fail

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  14. I ponovo sam bio u pravu ali ne ja nista ne znam .

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    1. Napokon si priznao sebi da ništa ne znaš... i sada možeš da napustiš ovaj blog

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    2. U pravu si da nista ne znas.

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  15. "JATBEGMELApril 24, 2015 at 8:05 AM

    LJU and ZAG to me seem to be alot relying on O&D traffic rather than transit pax, or both. The morning departures ex BEG is not seeing proper feed, neither is the late night arrivals connecting to many places.

    If anyone has noticed, North/West departures are at 07h and 18h whilst South/East departures are at 13h and 23h.

    Its been discussed many times before, the midnight wave needs to improve in order to assist the morning departure feed. CAI, ESB, SVX, ROV, AER, TBS, EVN, GYD could be something to look in to, more for transit feed rather than O&D demand."

    +1

    They are idiots and you know that by talking to 90% of people of the former Jat, or current Air Serbia. I was talking with some people in the management back-then and they were telling me (talking of Bucharest at that time, before it was even launched) "who the hell is gonna fly there", not even talking about Erevan, like - there isn't any concept or education of middle-high staff about how a transfer airline works, them seeing Air Serbia as a more glorified version of Jat with pretty much the same network, except for the few places in the region. Beirut and Dubai/Abu Dhabi were covered before as well.

    I mean, you can't except everything to be done by "brains" in AUH, now with Alitalia they have more than enough on their plate. Some initiatives have to come from the bottom as well, otherwise i see this problem becoing a serious stumbling block for the airline in the future, or a gridlock to be more accurate. A failure and neglect to address this issue on long-term may decide the faith of Air Serbia, where it could end up taking a decremental loop.

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    1. As much as Air Serbia's expansion was impressive, let's tell it straight - it was only a half expansion. Only the regional expansion was done in a complete way, but there again, not enough feeding for those flights as the previous member just explained. The fleet utilization increased dramatically and that's in my opinion the biggest achievement [together with kicking TK in the butt]. Now we come to human factor. The impression of many employees is that "they're working twice as much for the same pay". We have to look at it from both sides. If you want the employees attitude to change, you also have to change your attitude towards them and make them feel they are really working for a different company with a different concept, not just in appearances or the new building, stimulate people to think progressively and downgrade those who don't. We're entering now a big discussion for which i even ain't got time to elaborate completely but to summarize my opinion - Air Serbia can be "taken down" (not literally of course) only from the inside.

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    2. Pojedini ne znam sta rade u vrhu ali srecom im G Kondic vadi prosek.
      Umesto da razmmatraju linije poput : HEL, TBS,EVN. TBS jedna od najboljih feed linija LO, MAD,DUB mogusnost jeftinih letova za nase gradjanje sa EI , CAI , BGW,IKA, AMM jedna od boljih feed linija OS i naravni INN da ne zaboravim.

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    3. Trenutno se razmatra gasenje, a ne otvaranje linija. I Etihad ce ukinuti letove za Beograd od zime.

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    4. Sumnjam posto je LF na Etihadovim letovima BEG-AUH 90%

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    5. I think politics played a part here i.e. the need to show a "profit" already in 2014(inverted commas for obvious reasons). I think that hampered the expansion in the sense of leasing say, additional 2 planes.. In any case '14 was impressive. However, as of summer 2015 it looks as if they dont know what they are doing - increasing frequencies without having enough AS planes to sustain it (737s being used) and they dont want /are unable to lease another 1 or 2 planes which would be neccessary to pursue their stated business strategy which was AS planes flying on AS regular routes, and 737s on Aviolet charter routes. Like this they compromise their strategy and product and things start to look much less neat than before. It seems they are starting to improvise which is never good.

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    6. This winter season BEG-AUH is being reduced a single daily flight. Etihad's flight will be kept as that one has great loadfactor, the night one is the total opposite.

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    7. Ponovo se javljaju ovi sa nekim fantazijama , ne bojte se EY nece ukinuti liniju.

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    8. Будало клиначка, стрпи се још кој месец па ћеш видети. Абу Даби се смањује на један лет дневно, укида се ноћни полазак јер је катастрофална перформанса.

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    9. @3.10 PM
      Po vama nijedna jedina routa asl nije profitabilna ahahahhah

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    10. По теби за недељу дана ЈУ креће да лети за Пекинг. ахахахахах

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    11. Pa nije to čovjek rekao, rekao je da će se nešto čistiti. A možda AUH ne treba double daily, možda JU timing nema previše dobrih konekcija i ne može imati dobar perfromance. Pa ako je to tako, nije li bolje staviti avion na nešto drugo a ne suludo letjeti nešto što ne treba? INN-NS, meni se čini da ti malo idealiziraš situaciju u JU - lijepa je ekspanzija i slično, ali nigdje ne stoji da sve to skupa možda ne radi ono što bi trebalo pa se stvari moraju mijenjati. Tako da ukidanje linija nije ništa nevjerojatno, pa to rade sve normalne kompanije na svijetu koje ovise o rezultatu?

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    12. Ja stvarno pocinjem da mislim da ti, INN-NS, nisi normalan.

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    13. Zasto Nemjee. =D
      INN-NS

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    14. Zato sto se ponasas kao da nemas odgovarajuci broj hromozoma.

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    15. "Гашење линија иде" because the network isn't developped enough.

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    16. "AnonymousApril 24, 2015 at 3:10 PM
      Абу Даби се смањује на један лет дневно, укида се ноћни полазак јер је катастрофална перформанса."

      It'll be hilarious at the end Qatar having the same number of departures as ASL/EY.

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    17. I don't think anyone should be surprised if one AUH flight is dropped, there is simply too much capacity and AUH alone is a small market.

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    18. Smanjuju se frekvencije nekih linija koje ne idu bas dobro to je istina .
      Nemjee
      Ja se svadjam zato sto jedva cekaju tako nesto da se desi da bi drzali predavanja ovde kako ASL ne zna da posluje idt idt .
      Naravno da se moze bolje iskoristiti taj 1 A319 sto ide za AUH.
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    19. Nece se bolje koristiti jer se izbacuje po koji A319 iz flote ove zime. Situacija je daleko od bajne.

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    20. INN-NS, ali ako se takve stvari dese, ne znači li to da JU nije tako savršena kao što je ti stalno predstavljaš i braniš kao da si joj advokat? A ustvari pojma nemaš o tome što se tamo događa. Gluposti sipaš cijelo vrijeme.

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    21. opa! na osnovu cega? rast putnika AS u prvih 3 meseca (ako je pratio aerodrom beograd a najverovatnije jeste) je 10% ili vise. u medjuvremenu su u letnjem rasporedu povecali broj frekvencija..ne stima mi tvoja izjava..

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    22. pitannje iznad je u vezi izjave o izbacivanju aviona iz flote...nije logicno

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    23. Cekaj pa ces videti kako ce da raste od zime.

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    24. Zato salju 18 cap i 9 fo na obuku za A330 za nekoliko meseci .
      Ja nemam pojma sta se dogadja u ASL a zna jedan Anonymous .
      Izvinjavam se normalnim clanovima foruma sto moraju da trpe ove rasprave.
      Molim Admina da obrise ove gluposti od strane Anonymousa..
      Hvala unapred.
      INN-NS

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    25. izvini ali nije uopste logicno..ako ne mozes da potkrepis izjavu sa necim jacim od "videces" onda si isti kao INN-NS....

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    26. Admine, de rokni i ovog INN -NS usput, taj je još gori od anonimaca :)

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    27. Za Aviolet su dovoljna dva Boinga. Zasto bi najmili dva A320 kada imaju jos dva Boinga koja mogu da lete.

      Sad EY ima ogromni teret na Apeninima.

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    28. to sa apeninima im je epic fail, em su uplatili pola milijarde eur jer su ocekivali pristup ogromnom trzistu em ih Star alijansa unistava, pa cak i alitalijini drugari iz Skyteama.
      Za ocekivati je da Air Serbia otpocne dugolinijski saobracaj sto pre bude bilo moguce pravno i tehnicki. A332 bi trebali da budu na Tesli u Septembru ili Oktobro, ne kasnije.
      Inace sam jako kritican prema pilicarstvu koji je u aviobiznis uveo Etihad, a posebno air serbia.

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    29. Drugar, 330-ka tesko moze da se puni i leti a kamoli zimi. To je prvi razlog sto neces u septembru da je vidis na Tesli. Drugi razlog je taj sto je avion mnoooogo skuuuup kad stoji na zemljii, a sto veci to skuplji, i sto su u tom slucaju karte vec odaaavno trebale da budu u prodaju. Dakle jedino sto mozes je da zajedno sa INN-NS-om nastavis da mastas o 330-ki

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    30. If you think about it logically, it does make sense for ASL/EY to reduce the AUH flights to daily during winter. I think at least two times on this blog somebody reported the loads and made a mini trip report and said that in both ways there were around 50 pax. I am pretty sure I saw a ASL trip report on flyertalk or airliners.net where some guy posted a trip report to AUH and the load was also light. My point is that if they reduce AUH its not the end of the world, better utalize that aircraft on some other route or start a new route. I also would not be surprised if ASL turns TLV to seasonal or maybe even axes the route. DO not forget that ASL reduced TLV from daily to 5 weekly this summer, even thought they reported it as an increase from 4 weekly which was during this winter lol.

      Therefore some routes might be axed for sure, but where did you guys hear that ASL will get rid of some Airbus aircraft??? Maybe they might lease 1 Airbus to EY only during winter, is that what you mean?

      Also I highly doubt A330 will come in September when the season is low. If ASL ever gets A330 it will be March/April period just before busy season ( May-September).

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    31. Doce do kraja godine ali koji mesec tacno ne mogu da iznosim.
      Na obuku ce ici 18 cap i 9 fo za pocetak ce se leteti za jedan grad u USA i jedan grad u CAN , ko nema normalno nesto da kaze za ovo neka nista odg ne zelim raspravu sa nikim
      Hvala unapred :)
      INN-NS

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    32. A kad se probudis?

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    33. Rekal je INN-NS da ce doci A330 u Martu ili Aprilu ove godine, i da cedu letovi za Kinu poceti. Jos ima sest dan. A sta nisi obecal da ako se to ne dogodi, da ces mesec dan nis pisat na ovom blogu. Tko se seca da je to rekal?

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    34. INN-NS, stop with claims without no legit proof. I do believe those guys who said that AUH might get reduced to daily only because the "proof" comes fro shi*ty load factor on those flights. ( 3 trip reports and on couple of occasions people talking about it on here).

      How can I believe you when it comes to across the pond flights when you have no actual stats, statement, written conversation with someone in ASL, and so on. Without proof your not credibly and will be consider a bot. Stating that " 18 pilots and 9 first officers are going to training" is NOT PROVING ANYTHING. If eventually US flights do start in a year or two you will be bragging how you told us so. Well I am also saying those flights might start someday, but I am not trolling people and telling them it will start this year in April!

      I really do not get how admin is allowing INN-NS to write about US flights every so often without proof. He already deceived us ones didnt he?

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    35. Vaske
      Naravno imam vise izvora iz ASL ali necu ih sigurno na pisati .
      Mozda ne brise zato sto tacno sta cete onda.
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    36. Eto vidite da ne lazem.
      Jel imate jos koje pitanje
      INN-NS

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    37. "Naravno imam vise izvora iz ASL ali necu ih sigurno na pisati"
      INN-NS, even if you do have sources from ASL that is still not solid proof. I can claim that I have sources within QR and that I know Al-Bakar personally, which I do not, but I hope you get the point.
      I appreciate your enthusiasm which is rare on this site, but at the same time when everybody tells you that you are wrong just keep it to yourself. As I said before there is nothing shameful in being wrong just like you were with US flights starting this April.

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    38. Nisam rekao za USA nego Kinu.
      Imam jos vece izvore ali nemora nista da se desi ja verujem u to .
      Prvo se leti za jedan grad u USA i jedan u Kanadi bolje da pogadjamo koji ce biti nego da vodimo raspravu dali ce se desiti.
      Takodje nas ocekuju iznenadjenja na uskotrupnoj prici.
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    39. The guy who said not to be surprised if some Airbus aircrafts leave the fleet was right. Those 2 that were under A6 registrations and had a lot of technical issues will be scrapped.

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    40. Will there be replacements for this aircraft? Even if ASL does axe lets say 2 routes it will still need at least 10 Airbus aircraft for the summer season!? Give us more info people

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    41. Cuo sam da trebaju doci 4 A319 .
      INN-NS

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    42. 1) They are suspending a handful of routes not just 2
      2) 2 A319s will leave the fleet
      3) The mood in Serbia towards the government is changing fast as standards are falling and all of Vucic's ferry tales are turning out to be just ferry tales. That's why censorship, attacks on the ombudsman and anyone who isn't like your oaf INN-NS are on the up because the government is loosing control, they can't keep a grip any more. When Vucic is overthrown Air Serbia will disappear along with Etihad which will pack its bags and leave. I am sure one day someone will go to jail over this entire Air Serbia fiasco. I was a big supporter of Air Serbia at first but now see its a complete farce. The ferry tale ends 31 October.

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    43. Gadna je ljubomora mora da vas nisu primili na radno mesto a ASL ce jos vekovima da postoji.
      Ja sam cuo dolaze 4 A319.
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    44. Mogu samo da ti kazem da si jako pogresno cuo. Docice jedan ATR a od zime se povlace avioni iz flote.

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    45. 2:07 anonymous, give us more info on which routes those are and what will happen in summer 2016. Any other members on this site heard of this reduction? Is it that bad as 2:07 anonymous is saying?

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    46. I feel like this is SNS bot vs DS bot, that is how it seems to be honest. One is saying everything is great, fairy tale like, while the other one is saying its the end and everything is horrible.

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  16. You would have to assume that they would not start an airline with so little capital that they are finding it hard to pay the bills so soon!!

    Whatever the reason, it will be very difficult for the airline to now win back the trust of it's would be customers. I think this might be the last time we see Air Croatia for quite sometime if we see it again at all!

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    1. they started really bad to start with, ATR-42 really bad choice, 2nd they should have had line of credit in place you don't pay with credit cards for lease let alone lease of an airliner, i know I am being sarcastic here, but they should have had solid grounds before they took off with plans for world domination.

      Only way to start an successful airline these days is to have a good ground work done before you even launch a first flight. If they did that well, they'd be doing a brilliant job now, 40-50 000 passengers per year at least in first year and 100-120 000 in year two.

      Right now I have no idea what future holds for Air Croatia, the funny thing is, guys behind Air Croatia probably never operated an airline, or worked for one.

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  17. Зна ли неко зашто "унапређени" инфо систем београдског аеродрома пада овако често?

    Такође, сезонски ред летења је толико непрегледан, непотребно проширен, чак и када се обави једно техничко слетање они то убаце у ред летења.

    Од како су се назадњаци дочепали аеродрома растурају га као дете играчку

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    1. lmao ovo se se'am ya tehni;ko sletanje uneli su ;ak i kad je pro[le godine ybog ydravstvenih problema putnika Etihadov 77W sleteo.
      Jo[ samo fali da stave one Transaero i Europe Airpost probne letove pole D i C checkova u Jat Tehnici.

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    2. Nije se dočepao SNS aerodroma, nego Saša Vlaisavljević. Nikada mi neće biti jasno zašto postoje ti večiti neuspešni direktori javnih preduzeća. Upropasti jedno, pa hajde sad da ga pustimo u drugo. Bolje bi bilo da su pokupili nasumice ljude sa ulice da vode AB...

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  18. CSA to Sarajevo from 19.06!

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    1. It's just one single flight.

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  19. QR is doing some serious duping in BEG, very serious one!! From BEG to DXB via DOH you can travel for like 430 CANADIAN dollars which is only 330 euros. I remember 5-6 years ago I was paying close to 700-800 euros. Also flights to Hong Kong and Tokyo are dirt cheap. For like 700 Canadian you can visit those places. This prices are during months of June and July, so dont say I am looking at winter period dates.

    I am happy that QR is sticking around in BEG and hopefully it will be the big winner in BEG since they offer best prices and best product. I am also surprised that BEG is not getting direct flights with QR when such prices are in place. I know that for a lot of Serbs even this is expensive, but here in Canada for 430 dollars I can travel between Ottawa and Toronto really.

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    1. Even for $430 is sometimes a stretch. I remember I was paying over $1000 sometimes to Montreal (roughly the same distance) when i bought it 4- days in advance

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    2. In Canada is soo expensiive to travel and they have like 2 airlines. I was extremly suprised to see no low budget airlines in that country. I went to visit a friend in Toronto area and we were planning to visit Montreal for a day, the ticket was around 300 euros. I can not believe it. The worse country when comes to prices and choice of airlines.

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    3. There are actually 3 of them. Porter flies out of Toronto Island airport with all Q400 fleet. Listen this is very big country with only 30M population. I guess that's the reason why no healthy competition nevwr developed after WS showed up.

      The only saving grace for us in Ontario is that Buffalo and Niagara International are close enough for US flights. To Montreal I go once a year with my family and we always drive. Even if you rent a car it eds up being 10 times cheaper than air or train

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    4. @YYZApril 24, 2015 at 7:11 PM

      Could you please next time use some normal currency?! It's not like we give a f... about the "Canadian dollar", it means nothing to us, 97% of people in-here that is. Make the effort next time and translate it into some normal currency dude.

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  20. I just went to their web site and tried to make some fake booking. However I was not able to plug in departure/return date anywhere. Used both IE and Chrome and got the same result. Anybody else noticing the same thing?

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    1. If your talking about QR trying looking at cheapoair, that is where I found these prices. I usually find best prices on that site. Also its very reliable and easy to navigate through.

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    2. No I'm talking about Air Croatia's web site (http://www.aircroatia.eu/)

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    3. they have newest supermodern ultraintelligent device that recognizes you're trying to fake booking, that's why you can't make it :)

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    4. Cheapoair has some good prices, but if you look at some reviews online, a lot of people have had troubles with them. Best to be careful and watch out.

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    5. I have used cheapoair like 20 times and never had any issues. Also when I search for cheap flights during my spare time a lot of times they are the cheapest option. Aleksandar I would appreciate if you could recommend to me some other options when it comes to flight search engines.

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    6. I used them many times as well. Most recently a minth ago and never had any problems. I did read some bad reviews but I think those were all isolated cases, at least that was my impression.

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    7. I usually use skyscanner.ca and very often they are the cheapest option

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    8. I am always a bit paranoid when traveling, so I try to buy my tickets directly from the airline if I can find a competitive price.

      Matrix Airfare Search is a powerful search engine. You can enter a lot of variables, such as five arrival/departure airports and if your schedule is flexible, you can search by trip duration.

      Once you find a good fare, you can buy straight from the airline.

      Skyscanner is another popular one. I don't have a lot of experience with it, but heard some good stuff.

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  21. OT: Is it realistic to expect Ryanair or some other company flying from London (or UK for that matter) directly to Tivat ?
    I'm still puzzled that Montenegro is not shifting more to Western Europe , with respect to tourists.

    LYKV-LCY

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    1. excluding Montenegro Airlines, which charge 'arm and a leg' .

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  22. Ljudi gde se izgubio YU-APJ?

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    1. Ugradjuju mu wifi

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    2. Gde, u Beogradu ili Abu Dabiju? I kad će da se vrati?

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    3. APJ's last flight was on 13th of April. Yesterday night APE's JU656 to SVO was diverted back to BEG due to technical problems. ASL introduced additional flight JU2656 this morning.

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    4. Api and apj are the aircraft that are scheduled to leave the fleet and to be replaced by two Boeing.

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    5. I hope two A319s will be replaced by several B-737-700/800s...?!

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    6. it doesn't take 2 weeks for wifi install. is it c check?

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    7. Nope.It is WIFI instalation. In BEG, it is for the first time and the guys need some time, which is normal

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