Thursday, June 25, 2015

Niš Airport hopes for Air Serbia flights

Niš Airport eyes Air Serbia flights as foreign interest grows

Niš Constantine the Great Airport has appealed to national carrier Air Serbia to introduce services to the city, noting that it is in talks with several other airlines to commence operations. The call came after Wizz Air launched flights from Malmo to the south-east Serbian city earlier this morning, marking the first commercial service to the airport in over a year and half. “We have suggested for Air Serbia to begin operations from Niš because it is irrational that foreign airlines fly from our airport, while the national carrier does not”, the airport’s Managing Director, Vladica Djurdjanović, said. He added, “There are destinations Air Serbia could fly to, which are commercially viable, such as Vienna and Zurich. These are the two most profitable routes from Niš”.

In late April, Air Serbia said it was not interested in flying to the city. “We are currently focused on our flights to and from Belgrade. At this point, we don’t have plans to launch operations to Niš Airport”, Air Serbia’s Head of Corporate Affairs, Maja Gedošev, said. Air Serbia’s predecessor, Jat Airways, had claimed that flights from Niš were unprofitable, though the airline maintained services between the city and Zurich for several years. Since then, Constantine the Great Airport has lowered its fees, charging all airlines (both full fare and low cost) only three euros for handling, landing and passenger services.

According to the airport, several other airlines have expressed interest to launch flights to the city. While it refused to reveal their names, it noted one was eying flights to Tivat and the other to Osijek, offering onward connections to Stuttgart and Frankfurt. Montenegro Airlines operated subsidised flights from Podgorica to Niš for several years. On the other hand, Croatian start-up Sea Air, is set to launch operations from Osijek to Frankfurt, Stuttgart and Munich next Monday with a Boeing 737-500 aircraft. Last week, the head of Niš Airport said Wizz Air is looking into setting up a base in the city. The Serbian government estimates that Niš will handle some 40.000 passengers this year and a further 100.000 in 2016.

81 comments:

  1. If several other airlines expressed interest in flying to Niš, let them fly. Stop talking about it and let them fly.

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    1. Exactly. I'm not really sure passengers would love having JU in INI with protectionism and its prices, so bring on the LCCs and enjoy while it lasts.

      Why would they ruin any chance of becoming a focus airport for LCCs in order to get perhaps one daily rotation with ATR?

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    2. No one needs ASL from Nis to start flying.

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  2. God, it's that time of the month when INI management goes on with their usual rants requesting direct flights to Vienna and Zurich.

    Maybe it's time for them to change their rhetoric and to start demanding flights to Belgrade. They could become BNX 2.0.

    Btw does anyone have the loads for today's Wizz Air flight?

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    1. INI knows that Wizzair can't fly to Vienna because of very expensive fees at VIE, so they want JU to fly there and pay those fees. INI management, ask Wizz to fly to Vienna and tell us how they responded!

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    2. ''Btw does anyone have the loads for today's Wizz Air flight?''

      From Malom to Nis load was 170 pax, from Nis to Malmo 75 pax

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  3. Malmo airport website: https://www.swedavia.se/malmo/om-malmo-airport/om-flygplatsen/nyheter/upptack-nis-och-serbien/

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  4. Nis - Osijek with Sea Air would be interesting :D

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    1. Varaždin - Donji Milanovac would be interesting too.

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    2. No... The plan was Niš - Osijek - ...(Frankfur in this case)...

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  5. Nis-Kraljevo :DD

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  6. The only legacy carrier destination that makes any sense is Vienna. Even then, the airlines would fight typical gastarbajter mentality and numerous bus operators that offer return ticket with three bags for 60 € or so..

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  7. Congratulations to INI.
    http://www.flightradar24.com/airport/ini/arrivals

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    1. It's still not on the map... I wonder when will it appear.

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  8. No matter how much flights from Niš could be profitable, it is really immense shame that Air Serbia, so much subsided airline from Serbian government, doesn't fly to Niš airport. And they do fly to Warsaw and Budapest losing money every day. Also, take a look at statistics of Banja Luka flights.

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    1. There is a commercial interest in maintaining flights to BUD and WAW, even if unprofitable. The same can't be said for INI.

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    2. You can rent ATR72 and fly from INI. Sa Wizzom u Baselu ni Cirih nije vise interesantan.

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    3. Does Wizz has rights or permission to fly between Serbia and Switzerland?

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    4. ?? Open sky?

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    5. It's not Switzerland - it's Mulhouse, France. ;-)

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    6. I mean, can Wizz even operate Nis-Zurich if they wanted to?

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    7. Yes

      http://www.exyuaviation.com/p/serbia-and-switzerland-have-signed-new.html

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    8. At least, ASL should consider flying seasonal route from INI to Tivat. I remeber flying to Tivat from INI with JAT, 737 was completely full!

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  9. OT: Anyone know more about this 767 that landed this morning @ BEG from Morocco?

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    1. Serbian army charter, bringing back peace corps from CAR; another rotation left BEG yesterday.

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  10. Why is there no Nis airport on flightradar24?

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  11. MMX-INI: 175 pax
    INI-MMX: 74 pax

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    1. Za 6 meseci nisu uspeli da prodaju pola aviona u odlasku?!

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    2. Loše je popunjen u povratku posto je avion pun gastarbajtera iz Svedske. Bice avion pun u oba smera kad ovi prvi putnici pocnu da se vraćaju kući.

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    3. Aleksandre, pa gastosi cirkulisu cele godine.. 6 meseci nije bilo dovoljno da napune pola aviona na prvom letu.. sjajno..

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    4. Stvar je u tome da ako je neko već došao nekim drugim načinom,verovatno će se i vratiti na taj način. Gastrosi uzimaju MMX-INI-MMX kartu..

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    5. Danas 175 + 74 = 249 pax * 3 EUR = 747 EUR. Široko, ima se, može se!

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    6. Sorry, 74*3=222 EUR. Airlines flying to Niš pay 3 EUR per departing passenger, this price is all inclusive ie. passenger service, handling, landing....

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    7. Anon 4:05 PM

      Neko bi rekao i:

      " Nema se, mora se" :)

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    8. Passengers 2015 (estimated) 230,000
      Passengers 2014 151,353
      Passengers 2013 61,513
      Passengers 2012 4,191

      Tuzla :) Hopefully we see these nubers in INI to.

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    9. Nice growth in Tuzla. If this continues Tuzla will have 75 million passengers by 2050.

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  12. Jedan od osnovnih problema Er Srbije da bi odrzavala redovni saobracaj iz Nisa, a zatim iz Kraleva... jeste u osnovi nemanje fleksibilne flote. Najpogodnije velicine aviona sa punim kabinama krece se izmedju 30 do 60 sedista. Letnja sezona ima i vci broj putnika, ali za osam meseci godisnje gore navedeni broj je realan. Low Cost avio kompanije operisu na drugi nacin. Zato i uptrebljavaju A320, B737. Evropsko trziste nije uporedljivo fleksibilnoscu flote sa severno Americkim, i Australijskim avio saobracaja. Suvise je birokratizovano. Red tape. Za jugoistocnu Evropu nebih ni pominjao i uporedjivao. Vreme fleksibilnosti, deregulacije dolazi. Kako se moze drugacije napredovati?.Srbija ide u pravcu modernizacije. Mada su ograniceni rezorsi. Rodney✈Sydney✈Kraljevo✈.

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  13. Ko zna plate pilota na regionalnim linijama u USA ne prica o fleksibilnosti.

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    1. Zbog malih plata i lose obuke se i srusilo par regionalnih linera u americi u zadnjih 10 godina.

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  14. Provereno, radi se na smanjenju flote i posledicno tome, ukidanju nekih linija

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    1. Provereno lupetas gluposti

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  15. Provereno je Etihadov A6-SAA aka YU APJ od pre neki dan postao Dejan Stanković, tako da toliko o tome da negde ide...

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    1. Zar nije YU APJ bio tri nedelje u hangaru? Neko je rekao da su mu stavili onu antenu da li je to tacno?

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    2. Tačno, APJ ima ugrađen wi-fi.

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  16. Ne lupa, avioni koji su bili a6-saa i a6-sab, provereno se vracaju etihadu, da li ce ih neki drugi zameniti ili ne pitanje je, ja se iskeno nadam da hoce...

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    1. Why would they install the wifi plus name the aircraft? That would be dumbest thing ever if they had too return it in 3-4 months.

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    2. API and APJ were SAA and SAB, and API( or APJ doesnt matter really ) has gotten the wifi antenna. Im not saying they will not be going back to etihad, but why in the world would they invest in wifi antennas then? They could have installed them on APA or APB ( which is in the hangar now btw, so it might me getting the antenna.. ), or APC... Etihad will not take those birds, since they are looking into getting rid of their own 319s, send them to alitalia or jet? i dunno... The time will tell i guess, but i need some strong evidence to convince me that 2 319s are being returned.

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    3. "why in the world would they invest in wifi antennas then?"

      For Etihad obviously, you dumb. Etihad gets the Wi-Fi at the expense of JU + fitted for the cheapest possible price in Belgrade.

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    4. Yes, but isn`t Etihad getting rid of their own 319s. I believe reading here and on a.net, that etihad is NOT looking into further expanding their own a319 fleet, and if they did...why take the oldest 319s? I guess we`ll see in a few months.

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    5. AnonymousJune 25, 2015 at 4:22 PM

      Ha ha ha! Such an intriguer. Do you read a lot of Agatha Christi novels? Maybe write your own bestseller entitled "Air Serbia and the mystery of thew two returned planes."

      Stop trolling dude or, if you do have such daily urges, do it with some style and class.

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    6. Ne znam dali ce ove godine doci ali trebaju navodno jos 2 od EY doci.
      INN-NS

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    7. I also read that somewhere. If two aircraft do leave for the winter period no problem, but what about the summer period. Even if they discountinue 3-4 routes they will need those planes to operate other flights. After all it is obvious to EVERYONE that EY/ASL relationship has come down to a halt and things are not a great as they were.

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    8. read that, implying to what 4:36 said

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    9. If EY want those A319 back, JU can uninstall wifi and put them on ATRs. Or Boeings.

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    10. Very funny anon 5:40
      The story does not add up. Also everybody is forgetting that even if ASL drops 4 routes they will still need at least 10 A319 for the summer season, unless they plan to use B737 for another 5 years and also put 2 additional B737 back into service

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    11. @4.42 ako ne znaš onda ne piši jer "trebalo bi", "navodno".. i sl. ne znači ništa..

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    12. naravno jasno je i da je A330 prica odlozena za neka druga vremena

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    13. I get it! JU will send 2 A319 to EY and get 1 A330 in exchange!

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  17. Three large US airlines Delta, United and American (US3) are arguing with US regulator that three Middle East airlines Emirates, Qatar and Etihad (ME3) have unfair advantage. Outcome may continue to allow ME3 unrestricted access to USA market, or it may impose some measures such as restrictions to future expansions. What outcome is better for Air Serbia?

    a) If no restricitions, Etihad will continue to grow in the US, does that impact Air Serbia plans for the USA?

    b) If restrictions, Etihad will have less revenue from US but partners like AZ, AB and Air Serbia could expand in the USA?

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  18. http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/6437193/
    Does that sound true or is this typical speculations we aviation enthusiasts love to make? I find this hard to believe. At the same time do not forget SU cancelled their order for 20 something B787 last week so who knows.

    Also congrats to Nis! Hopefully Tuzla scenario occurs.

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    1. to add, some of the B77W are like only a year or two old. I am pretty sure the A330 are also fairly new. As for A320 they have plenty of them so obviously some could be for actual retirement and not removing it out of service.

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    2. Would make sense if it is true. The leases are probably in USD, so the exchange rate probably makes it unbearably expensive. Also I heard that demand has fallen on international routes from Russia.

      Aeroflot always seemed to be dragging their feet with the whole Sulhoi Superjet program, but it certainly has come at a fortunate time. I expect more orders from Russian carriers.

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    3. The demand did indeed fall by 40% (mentioned in the article) in the jan-march period. At the same time letting go of 21 long haul and 22 short haul aircraft seems a bit exaggerated unless the Russian economy collapses and never recovers. I believe 10 of 30 Sukhois SU has are grounded. Anyhow if all of this is true, we can expect massive route cuts and reductions.

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    4. the article did not include this, but I assume the 8-9 B737 SU has will also be "retired".

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    5. I think Aeroflot has 20 SSJs. The first 10 were overweight and not to spec, so they were returned. Some of those early builds eventually found their way into the fleets of other carriers.

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    6. Bilo bi odlicno kad bi ASL uzela povoljno 2 77W.
      INN-NS

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    7. SU expects to replace the A320's with the MS-21 on the long-term.

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  19. http://www.dalmacijanews.hr/clanak/i6rt-breaking-news-u-more-kod-resnika-pao-zrakoplov#/clanak/i6rt-breaking-news-u-more-kod-resnika-pao-zrakoplov

    Plane crashed in the sea in Croatia

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    1. Couldn't it land in Zagreb?

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    2. that is in the near of SPU
      :(

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  20. U kakvom su stanju b737-300 er srbije? Upak 30 godine nije malo,..

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    1. U dobrom, jer nisu leteli tokom devedesetih.

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    2. Pa nije bas potpuna istina da nisu leteli tokom devedesetih jer to moze znaciti da nisu letei 10 god. Nisu leteli od maja 1992 do 1995 i tokom bombardovanja SRJ 1999. Ostalih godina su bili u funkciji

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    3. Što su stariji, to bolje lete!
      Odgovorno tvrdim!

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  21. Can Wizz fly to Bratislava? Would this be a viable alternative to Vienna flights?

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    1. Wizz doesn't fly to Bratislava.

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    2. I know, but the question remains, is this a viable alternative to Vienna
      Ryanair flies to Bratislava.
      Wizz purchased 110 planes with 90 options. They will definitely expand.

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