Friday, November 6, 2015

Adria's passenger numbers improve

Adria sees double digit passenger growth as capital injection decision looms

Adria Airways has recorded double digit passenger growth during the first ten months of the year. During the January - September period, the Slovenian carrier welcomed 1.090.034 passengers on board its aircraft, an increase of 13.4% compared to the same period last year. Of those, 904.731 travellers were carried on scheduled services, up 15.1%, while the remaining 185.303 were handled on charter flights, representing an increase of 5.7% compared to last year. The growth was fuelled by the launch of new routes from Ljubljana and the development of the carrier's bases outside of Slovenia. The airline's average cabin load factor stood at 69%, which is down 2% on the same period in 2014. Adria says the decline comes due to the utilisation of larger aircraft.

The Slovenian carrier is satisfied with its performance on all of its routes with exception to Moscow, where it saw a sharp decline in passenger figures as a result of a volatile rouble and western-imposed sanctions on the country. On the financial front, the airline says it cannot foresee whether the company will turn a profit by year's end. In 2014, Adria handled 1.113 million passenger and managed a net profit of 921.000 euros. It has been pointed out that profitability was achieved thanks in part due to the sale and leaseback agreements made on its aircraft. Otherwise, it is believed, the airline would have ended last year in the red.

On November 23, Adria's shareholders will meet to vote on an eight million euro capital injection. This has raised prospects that a potential buyer will participate in the capital hike. According to the daily "Večer", if a single investor takes part and offers the eight million euro sum, they could be granted up to a 69% share in Adria. The Slovenian carrier is in the midst of a privatisation process with the government offering a 91.58% stake in the airline. A public call for the expression of interest was published in July, while binding bids were submitted by the end of September. The state is believed to have received several offers, while three companies are said to be interested in participating in Adria's capital injection, in order to secure the airline's liquidity over the slow winter months.

127 comments:

  1. Good numbers, hopefully the margins were also good.

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    1. I doubt they were good. Using larger metal and introducing new routes will make your machines emptier on short-term basis at least - in order to get more pax inside of your aircrafts you will have to be cheap, plus invest a lot into marketing. I am pretty sure they lost money with the vast majority of their flights in 2014 - but maybe they will still have some property to sell this year?

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  2. Good result but not so good finances. I'm really keen to see who will buy them. If it's through this capital injection, then it's probably an financil investment firm.

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  3. Btw the new IFE will be free of charge

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  4. OT: EasyJet to open Hamburg-Pula route in 2016

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  5. Really good numbers for JP. They are catching up to OU.

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    1. Ummm not really

      JP (10 months) - 1.090.034
      OU (9 months) - 1.456.997

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    2. What about if you substract OU domestic routes?

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    3. Why should you subtract the domestic routes?

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    4. Because JP doesn't have any

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    5. Would be nice to see how many of all pax is internaonal ones. .and compare it on apple 2 apple basis

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    6. It is so funny. It would be like not counting internal flights and passangers for AZ. It is not OU fault if they have internal flights. So your apple to apple comparison is just a desperate way to show how good JP is and above all better than your juzni sosedi.

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  6. The author forgot on the MBX-SEN route which was very profitable with great LF for JP.

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    1. Actually I think the LF on those flights were pretty poor.

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    2. LF on MBX - SEN was 70%. They said there was 7000 passengers from MBX to SEN, and there were 10000 available seats.

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    3. It was surely better than 69%. I read that it was almost up tu 80%. But Adria did not tell the right numbers in order to get more money from a found that was established for those flights.

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    4. The MBX-SEN-MBX couldn't have been a profitable route due to the low fare prices (approx. 80 EUR return) and non-revenue making ferry flights LJU-MBX.

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    5. Thats why Adria should base an aircraft there. CRJ700 would be the best option since they are joining one in January 2016

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  7. Comparison of JU, JP and OU in inter-exYu routes

    Number of seats per week (13.474):
    6806 Croatia Airlines (50,5%)
    4988 Air Serbia (37,0%)
    1680 Adria Airways (12,5%)

    Number of flights per week (171):
    82 Croatia Airlines (47,9%)
    69 Air Serbia (40,4%)
    20 Adria Airways (11,7%)

    Numbers of routes (19):
    8 Croatia Airlines (42,1%)
    7 Air Serbia (36,8%)
    4 Adria Airways (21,1%)


    Sarajevo (3)
    OU 13x Q400, 988 seats per week
    JU 7x AT7, 462 seats per week
    JP 4x CR9, 336 seats per week*

    Skopje (3)
    JP 7xCR9, 588 seats per week*
    OU 7x Q400, 532 seats per week
    JU 7x AT7, 462 seats per week

    Priština (2)
    JP 6x CR9, 504 seats per week*
    OU 3x Q400, 228 seats per week
    JU no flights

    Podgorica (2)
    JU 21 x AT7, 1386 seats per week
    JP 3x CR9, 252 seats per week*
    OU no flights

    Split (1/2)
    OU 22x A319 and Q400, 2148 seats per week
    JU seasonal route
    JP no flights

    Dubrovnik (1/2)
    OU 22x A320 and Q400, 2358 seats per week
    JU seasonal route
    JP no flights

    Pula (1/2)
    OU 6x Q400 via ZAD, 231 seats per week
    JU seasonal route
    JP no flights

    Tivat (1)
    JU 7x A319, 896 seats per week
    JP and OU no flights

    Ljubljana (1)
    JU 12x AT7, 792 seats per week
    JP and OU no flights

    Zagreb (1)
    JU 12x AT7, 792 seats per week
    JP and OU no flights

    Zadar (1)
    OU 6x Q400, 231 seats per week
    JU and JP no flights

    Banja Luka (1)
    JU 3x AT7, 198 seats per week
    JP and OU no flights

    Osijek (1)
    OU 3x EM2 by Trade Air, 90 seats per week
    JU and JP no flights

    * presumption, no official data of the equipment

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    1. ASL fails to capture a majority stake of the intra ex-Yu market.
      It relies on travelers to and from outside the ex-Yu and that market is attacked by foreign competitors both full service and low cost.

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    2. It is difficult to have a majority stake when OU has a domestic network. lol

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    3. True but:
      - even in Sarajevo and Skopje OU has much more seats than JU?

      - to make BEG as real hub JU should have at least 3 flights per day (12 per week, 2 per working day and 1 per weekend) to LJU, ZAG, TGD (that is OK), SJJ, SKP, TIV, at least 6 flights per week to BNX and PRN (every day exempt Saturday), and 3 flights per week to SPU (--3-5-7), DBV (-2-4-6), OMO (1-3-5--) and OHD (-2-4-6-).

      - why JU did not leave SPU and DBV flights with at lease 3 flights per week. If OU can have 22 flights per week, JU can have at least 3 per week with ATR-72?

      - inter-exYU market for sure is most important one for JU where most of transit passengers must come from and where they can have some P2P passengers (for sure there are no lot of those in BEY, VAR, SKG, SOF, OTP...) routes.

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    4. I would say that Sarajevo is the real issue here. Again, there were 14 daily flights till BH collapsed.

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    5. Ova lista se ne moze uzeti za ozbiljno posto ASL cesto salje za SKP i SJJ A319 .
      INN-NS

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    6. Koji je ovo, do vraga argument?

      Pa i Croatia šalje svoje A319 i A320 za SJJ i SKP, a još češće za SPU i DBV.

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    7. @Purger. I think 3 flights a day is a bit too much, especially for LJU, SKP and TIV. The thing is that aside from frecuencies, JU should offer atractive connection times regardless of frecuencies. I mean, it doesn't matter if you fly 3x daily to wherever if you are not able to time appropriately the flights which are supposed to feed that one and viceversa. I do think that JU is going to (and definitely should) increase frecuencies in some key destinations. But it should come, as lots of people here have pointed before, with good timing.

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    8. Mistake, I told 2 flights per day (12 per week). Of course it is about connections...

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    9. Yeah, 2x daily would be ideal. Fully agree. I also think that they should increase the ATR fleet including some ATR42s to increase frecuencies to small markets like BNX or maybe even start flights to INI.

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    10. Absolutely. They should have more ATR, with intention to change ATR as soon as possible to A319 in some of the routes. So that means more than 2 flights per day should be only when they have 2 daily flights with A319. I thing that goal should be:

      TGD 3x A319/A320 per day (A320 in YU wave)
      LJU 2x A319
      ZAG 2x A319
      SKP 2x A319
      TIV 2x A319
      SJJ 2x AT7
      SPU 2x AT7
      DBV 2x AT7
      BNX 1x AT7
      OHR 1x AT7
      OMO 1x AT7
      ZAD 1x AT7
      PUY 1x AT7
      RJK 1x AT7
      MBX 1x AT7

      In summer even more especially to DBV, SPU, TIV, TGD and SJJ.

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    11. I wonder if PUY could go daily on the A319 in the future. Istra is by far the most popular part of Croatia for Serbs. It's a shame that tickets are so expensive.

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    12. @Purger Although I think that those services could work with a good feed from western European destinations I think that a daily ATR72 to BNX, OHD and MBX is a bit too much, hence the need for some ATR42s. I also insist that INI should be considered.
      Agree also with the summer increase.

      @Anon 5:04 It could be in summer then?

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    13. I forgot PRN. They should be working on that to get those flights ASAP.

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    14. I think BNX has huge potential which is currently unused.Just look at how many daily buses there are between Belgrade and Banja Luka. I still think that one of the reasons why the route doesn't perform as well in low season is because of poor marketing. I have never seen a single ad in Belgrade for these flights. Why not place a big advertisement right next to the Belgrade bus stop? The price is not that different but the travelling time is so much shorter.

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    15. Same scenario applies for Sarajevo. The last time I checked a return air fare was €168 which is just crazy. If it was €54 as is for BNX then they would have had so many more O&D passengers.
      Montenegro is a different story as to reach it by road is a living nightmare so people don't mind paying a lot to fly.

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    16. Purger at 5:01

      +1000
      I see that we have at least one subscriber that knows what aviation is.
      Btw: i can agree 100%about MBX

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    17. BNX need a shake-up. The managing board must be dismissed. It's a prerequisite for any develpment of the airport. Those four directors have already showed what they are able to do. They worth, a fuckall!

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  8. Whats the point of that comparison?

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    1. what is the point of this forum?

      what's the point of any discussion on this forum?

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    2. I have to agree with Purger this time as well.. +1

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    3. Statistika je cudo, pogotovo kad je napravis po parametrima koje zelis ;)

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    4. Ajde nam je ti okreni po svojim pa da uzivamo ;-)

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    5. @12:47
      nije statistika nikakvo cudo, nego OU leti na domacim linijama, a JU ne leti. NIko im ne brani da lete iz Beograda za Nis, Kraljevo, Pristinu, i voze tranzite koji preko BEG idu dalje, kao sto to radi OU u ZAG sa letovima iz DBV,SPU,PUY. Dakle ne radi se o izvrtanju cinjenica nego o cinjenicama, a te su da je OU jaca od ostala 2 ex-yu prevoznika na linijama unutar ex-yu trzista, bas kao sto je i JU jaca od svoja 2 ex-yu konkurenta na evropskom trzistu van prostora ex-yu. Ili bi mozda i takvu statistiku osporavao? Verujem da ne bi,

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    6. @2:43 to je samo deo statistike, zato kazem da je cudo ;)

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    7. exYu tržište jest bazično za ova tri prijevoznika. I ova informacija jest indikativna. Iz nje se može napraviti niz zaključaka bitnih za analizu odnosa i potencijala ova tri prijevoznika.

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    8. @2:54
      pa odluci se je li deo statistike ili je cudo od statistike. Ruka, ili noga, ili glava je na primer deo tela, ali nije nikakvo cudo da je ruka ili noga ili glava deo tela. Prema tome ili je deo statisike, ili je cudo statistike. Oboje ne moze.

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    9. Да будем искрен, мислим да бивша Југа није више у тој мери базично тржиште за ЈУ као што је за ЈП или ОУ. ЈУ се сада много више окреће целом Балкану што је на крају крајева и паметније.

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    10. Slažem se da je dobro preči okvire bivše Juge, ali se nikako ne mogu složiti da je bivša Juga nije bazično tržište Air Serbije i to iz nekoliko razloga:

      1. Daleko više P2P putnika je iz bivše Juge radi obiteljskih, prijateljskih, imovinskih, vjerskih, sportskih, gospodarstvenih, turističkih, političkih, vojnih, zdravstvenih, znanstvenih i svih drugih veza koje su još uvijek tu jake. To Srbija nikada ni blizu neće imati sa bilo kojim drugim tržištem.

      2. Daleko jače se profilirati i maknuti salbašnu konkurenciju na prostoru bivše Juge (B&H je već šaptom pala, Monenegro je već gotova stvar, Adrija i Croatia su ekstremno slabe i ne pružaju nikakav otpor) nego na prostoru Grčke (jak Aegena i tona drugih prijevoznika, ogromno širenje Ryanaira i easyJeta), Bugarske (nacionalni prijevoznik + jak Wizzair), Rumunjske (TAROM kao jači igrač od Air Serbije, velik broj prijevoznika, jak Wizzair, vlastita LCC kompanija Blue Air), o Bejrutu, Tirani, Tel Avivu i ostalim potencijalnim tržištima da i ne govorimo. Konačno nije li indikativno da su rezanja letova upravo na grčkim linijama najradikalnija?

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    11. Purgeru, mislim da si pogresno protumacio sta je hteo reci. Rekao je da nije u toj meri kao nekada te da se teziste polako pomera i balansira sa drugim, malo vecim i lukrativnijim trzistima.

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    12. 3. prednost raspoznatljivog jezika, sličnog menatliteta, kraćih letova, poznatog okruženja... sigurno da nije malena stvar.

      4. Možebitne konekcije unutar bivše Jugoslavije su moguće (npr. LJU-BEG-OHR, LJU-BEG-TIV, ZAG-BEG-TGD...), što nije slučaj sa širom regijom (teško će netko putovati SOF-BEG-OTP, ili ATH-BEG-IST).

      5. Business break u Beogradu tijekom konekcija (konekcija se jednim danom noćenja ili više stati ostanka u Beogradu) da se usput obavi i neki posao u Beogadu je svakako daleko veća za putnike iz bivše Juge nego iz šire regije.

      6. Obzirom na još uvijek jake trgovačke odnose u regiji (proizvodi su više nego prepoznatljivi) cargo kompenenta nije zanemariva.

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  9. OT: JU is organizing major event in three days, on 9.11. at Bel Expo Center.

    All employees are invited to participate. The rumor is they will announce further expansion, 5 JFK weekly flight and BKK during winter season and many more news are to come.

    BKK makes no sense but at least that is the rumor..

    Lets wait and see

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    1. Haters are going to have a heart attack when they hear the news!

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    2. Why wouldn't it make sense? BKK is one of the largest markets from Europe to Asia in winter and that is not that price sensitive. It'd be a good way to better utilize the a/c during the slower winter months, especially given the fact that besides TK no airline flies to Bangkok in the near vicinity. As i said earlier, the network of a realized Air Serbia should be pretty much similar to that of LOT.

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    3. Haters are going to have a heart attack if these flights are profitable instead of causing big losses to the company.
      Losses that will limit its growth in Europe and Middle East where the airline operates..

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    4. What is the market between BEG and BKK?
      I understand that BEG-JFK is bigger but how big is it?

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    5. Uz BKK se spominjao i PEK sto mozda znaci da ce doci vise od 2 A330 sto se ja nadam.
      INN-NS

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    6. BKK will not happen because EY will want all traffic sent through AUH. Also, if airlines like Air France and Lufthansa failed there I highly doubt JU will make it work, especially since they failed in BUD.

      North American flights will happen because of Vucic who keeps on insisting we get them. There is absolutely no commercial justification for them. The local market is too small and the onward connections are limited at best.

      But as long as the government is footing the bill, who cares.

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    7. JU will get destroyed by TK if they decide to go to BKK. TK's cost structure is already 35% lower than other European carriers and they have enough O&D to sell rock bottom flights.

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    8. Why I think it makes no sense because my understanding was that EY would want to channel all Asia bound traffic to AUH. PEK has much more sense to me but let`s wait and see... I guess we are all looking forward for Monday

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    9. Kao sto sam bio pre nekoliko meseci naveo par Aziskih destinacija koje su u mogucnosti bile i to je vrlo je zanimljvo da je BKK dobio trku od PEK,ICN i PVG mislim da ce biti uspeh kao sto kaze Aerologic .
      INN-NS

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    10. Anon, you said that NYC and BKK are rumored, but are there any other destinations like AMM, CAI, MAD, etc that could possibly be announced

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    11. MAD would be so great, I'd love to have a direct link to BEG.

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    12. Destinations like AMM, CAI, MAD, BCN, BUD, LCA would make a whole lot more COMMERCIAL sense than NYC or BKK but JU is not a commercial enterprise.
      It is a Vucic pet project.

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    13. Wow! Najava najave na bazi traca! To najvise volem! Apsalutno!

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    15. Ja to nebi nazvao tracem posto se to vec zna kod upucenih eto otkricu jednu tajnu dolazi 332 ne 333 i jos nesto izgleda ce biti vise od 1 .
      INN-NS

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    16. Jel to onaj 330 koji je došao pre 9 meseci?

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    17. Jeste, to je onaj sto vec 9 meseci leti za Kinu isto kao sto ce i nakon izbora leteti za Njujork

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    18. Bel Expo Center is a large building:

      http://savath.net/static/newage/holiday-inn-belgrad-4-godine-rada.jpg

      They would not book something this big to announce additional winter cuts or something like that. Size of that building says "this is going to be really big!"

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    19. Mogu si oni praviti veliki tulum u Beogradu ali im Department of Transportation još nije odobrio letove za USA.

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    20. @7:07
      they can book, and pay, anything, including Arena, because they don't pay for it, it's you and me who pay for it from our taxes. And even if they announce JFK flights, it would be AB or AZ code-share, what something what some other airlines in ex-yu region have for years, plus it'll be so nice for uneducated people in pre-election times to hear of successes and achievments of current government, and such things are not announced under the tent

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    21. ^ Sure. You will be burning up with hate on Monday night :) Good that you have prepared a list of comebacks.

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  10. I agree 100% with BKK. I think it is plain stupid, there is too much competition and lots of other factors that would make that route senseless.
    On the other hand, wasn't ORD a better destination in the US for JU than NYC? I mean, if they are going to start TATL flights, why not pick the best option?

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    1. This comment above was supposed to reply Anon @3:44 above, sorry.

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    2. It should be JFK (not NYC, btw) and that makes more sense as for ASL is primary count on transit pax. ORD can work only for ex-yu and that is not so reliable to start with.

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    3. @Anon 4:28 I was writing NYC because I didn't know if they were going to JFK or EWR.
      Thanks for the info.

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    4. He was just trying to be smart without knowing that NYC is the code for the city of New York just like MOW is for Moscow or LON is for London.

      Also, I think they will go for JFK as it makes little sense to go for EWR since United will not cooperate with them.

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    5. JFK se leti saradnju ce imati sa B6 i najverovatnije AA.
      INN-NS

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  11. Ima ovde balvana kao u najguscoj bosanskoj sumetini, englezi su se juce povukli a danas idu i rusi iz egipta. kad je jos dane odlucio da ne idu u kairo (i kijev)?

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  12. OT

    ATH reported its October numbers and they are up by 10.2%. The airport handled 1.58 million passengers out of which 540.000 were on domestic flights.
    This is very interesting because the airport authority did say that if they keep up growing during the winter months, they will proceed with expansion plans. Seems like they are on the right track.

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    1. Jan-Oct 2014 : 13 million passengers
      Jan-Oct 2015: 15.7 million passengers
      +19.8%

      This year, for the first time ever, ATH handled more than 10 million international passengers in the first ten months, last year the number stood at 8.6 million.

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    2. ATH's success is unbelievable. Good job!

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    3. Athens airport is going to have a record year while the economy of Greece is at its worse!
      Bravo to ATH and A3 for their fantastic performanse.

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  13. OT: JP temporarly suspends flights to Sharm el sheik.

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  14. OT : JU basic stats for October : 216.000 PAX (+5%), aircraft movements +7%. Overall clf 72,5%.

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    1. Odlicno ;) Izvor?

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    2. To znači da su svi ostali (koji plačaju) ozbiljno smanjili broj putnika. A to je za BEG jako jako loše.

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    3. @7:40 eto nama jos jednog ozbiljnog matematicara ;)

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    4. Pa ako je JU +5%,
      a BEG ukupno -1,
      znači svi ostali su -6%.

      JU ne plača BEG, ostali plačaju, a sve ih je manje. Pa ti pokaži neku drugu matematiku.

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    5. Dragi komšija, prvo, ASL plaća aerodromu ušta se možete uveriti uvidom u kvartalno javno dostupne finansije aerodroma, sa popustom, ali placa. Drugo, proslog meseca, 26. je startovao zimski red letenja. Treće, ovo će biti u najlošijem slučaju ista kao prošlogodišnja a po svemu sudeći nova rekordna godina za aerodrom.

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    6. No my dear, Air Serbia pays Belgrade airport absolutely nothing. For anything.

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    7. Ok but how has BEG been having record profits recently then?

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    8. Republic of Serbia paid old Jat debt to Airport Belgrade

      after which Airport Belgrade give money back by paying dividend to his owner Republic of Serbia.

      By the book they were profitable just because money was on their account for few weeks

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    9. Passenger taxes from all the extra passengers as well as from increased auxiliary fees and charges.

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    10. @11:38 ako ste zeljni istine, imate na sajtu Beogradske berze kvartalno dostupne finansije Aerodroma pa cete se uveriti da ASL placa usluge.

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  15. Na CAF-u jedan ozbiljan i respektabilan slovenski član je napisao slijedeće:

    Adrija će preuzet flotu CRJ (5 komada) sa posadama i rute Estonian Air, kada Estonian dobije negativnu odluku evropske komisije. Zelja je to Estonskih vlasnika, znaci vlade.

    Dogovoreno je u nedelju planira se da Adria pod svoje brojeve preuzme prve linije estoniana iz Tallina za Oslo, Copenhagen i Trondheim.

    U početku za Adriju če letjet Trade air i Carpatair sa fokkerima, onda pod Adrijski AOC dolaze avioni, koje če prvo letjet Adrijske posada a onda dolaze estonske posade.

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    1. Exciting and a very good opportunity to expand their business, but is Adria even capable of such an action considering their financial difficulties?

      I worry that they might run out of cash even if they end up making money in the long run.

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    2. If this is true then it's a very stupid move on behalf of Adria. They will be pissing off airBaltic which has been expanding in Tallinn and flying (I think seasonally) to Berlin and a few other places. They have a far better brand recognition and slightly deeper pockets. When will various businesses realize that there is room for only one airline in the Baltics and that's BT.

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    3. Wow, that's like saying "there is a room for only one airline in the West Balkans and that's JU"!

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    4. Ovo je totalna glupost imaju prejaku komkurenciju dovoljno je reci samo AY i SU a ostale nemoram ni spominjati ocigledno misle tako lakse naci kupca.
      INN-NS

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    5. The only difference is that there are six million people in the Baltics and 20 million in the western Balkans. Huge difference.
      Just look at how many Baltic airlines failed until now, especially in Lithuania.
      In addition to airBaltic there are also Wizz Air and Ryanair which act as pretty much their national carriers. But as far as local airlines go, airBaltic is more than enough.

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    6. BT je dobio pre neki dan nemackog Akcionara i jos su Kinezi u igri ovo samo moze da nasteti kompaniji ne znam sto im je to potrebno.
      INN-NS

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  16. Ekonomija
    „Er Srbija” u plusu uz pomoć države

    Bez državnih dotacija i subvencija od 8,38 milijardi dinara, kompanija bi kraj 2014. godine ispratila u minusu

    http://www.politika.rs/rubrike/Ekonomija/Er-Srbija-u-plusu-uz-pomoc-drzave.lt.html

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    1. .. isplata duga za 2013 a ne donacija.

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    2. Каква црна исплата дуга? Мада у праву си, Политика је само још један h8er.

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    3. Prvo nije Politika nego autorski tekst. Drugo pogledaj Bilans stanja, stavku preneti dugovi pa se javi ...

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    4. The government didn't have to wire the money to JU, they could have paid Jat's debt directly as their previous (current?) owner.

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    5. @10:58 Ne, sva dugovanja pravnim i fizickim licima su morala biti placena preko ASL. http://www.parlament.gov.rs/upload/archive/files/lat/pdf/predlozi_zakona/4581-14%20-%20lat.pdf

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    6. Na druga pravna i fizička lica čija potraživanja će regulisati Air Serbia a.d. Beograd odnosi se prema kursnoj listi Narodne banke Srbije na dan 30. septembar 2014. godine 809.394.645,00 dinara.

      Može li netko ovo objasniti. To je 10 puta manje nego što je uplačeno!

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    7. Taj navodni dug Jata iz prethodne godine koji jd pokriven sa 8 milijardi dinara se formalno vodi kao Jatov dug. U stvarnosti taj dug je napravilo rukovodstvo Air Serbije u tranzicionom periodu, kada su oni upravljali a sve se jos vodilo kao Jat. To au pare iskeairane za redizajn, avione kojima sada leti Air Serbija itd. Nas kao gradjane uopste ne zanima sta je gde i kako formalno zavedeni, vec cinjenica da je za akcije novog rukovodstva pod palicom Etihada iskeairano 8 milijardi dinara za njihove poslovne poduhvate, a ne za dugovanja iz perioda pre nego sto su oni odlucivali. I sad neko moze da smatra to dobrim ulaganjem u Air Serbiju, neko losim, ali je fakat da su to pare izdvojene za Air Serbiju, a ne namirenje nekih starih dugova.

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    8. Zanimljivo, je da tek posle skoro godinu dana reagujete na javno objavljen dokument? Šta je bilo gospodo, ponestalo vam je materijala, pa sebe ubedjujete svakoga dana da ste upravu?

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    9. Занимљиво је то да се ти ниси потрудио да провериш све чињенице пре него што пишеш глупе коментаре. АПР је тек пре неки дан објавио податке фирми за прошлу годину тако да су ово свеже информације.

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    10. И само да додам, Ер Србија није морала да плаћа сва дуговања која је Јат направио јер је држава била гарантор што значи да ако Јат није могао да плаћа онда они преузимају обавезе. Дакле овде се ради о некој мућки.

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    11. Ne govorim o APR, koji je objavljen pre mesec dana, nego o : ZAKON
      O PREUZIMANJU OBAVEZA PRIVREDNOG DRUŠTVA AIR SERBIA AD BEOGRAD PREMA
      PRAVNIM I FIZIČKIM LICIMA PO OSNOVU IZVRŠENIH USLUGA I ISPORUČENIH ROBA I PRETVARANJU TIH OBAVEZA U JAVNI DUG REPUBLIKE SRBIJE iz decebra 2014 a gde sve lepo pise, ako zelite da se informisete.

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  17. Seems like all JU Atrs diverted to INI. Is there fog at BEG?

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    1. W6 GOT-BEG diverted to Tuzla.

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    2. Yes, very very thick fog in BEG.

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    3. INI got quite a lot of love tonight, three Atrs and ANK.

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    4. W6 flight diverted because of fog ? Today there is a regular flight GOT-TZL. GOT-BEG flights are on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays. W6 Belgrade plane has just landed coming from MMX.

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    5. Maybe FR24 messed up?

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  18. Every year: so many capital injections:
    public money subventions, masked state helps, strange transactions.
    Come on Adria it's not a real airline. It's a joke.
    Why the privatization process it's taking so long? Because at the end of it there is bankruptcy.

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    1. You are also describing ASL.

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    http://sternsuperfans.com/the-instant-switch-guide-review/

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