Wednesday, February 10, 2016

Air Serbia to begin New York ticket sales

Air Serbia to launch ticket sales for first long haul service next week

The Serbian Prime Minister, Aleksandar Vučić, has said Air Serbia will launch ticket sales for its Belgrade - New York service at the upcoming Belgrade Tourism Fair, which runs from Thursday through to Sunday next week. "The Belgrade Tourism Fair begins in a few days. We will start New York ticket sales then, while flights will begin in June. This service is a matter of prestige", the Prime Minister said yesterday. The United States Department of Transportation has granted Air Serbia rights to operate flights to the United States with its own aircraft and crew. Following a recent regulatory and safety evaluation by US authorities in Serbia, the Department is expected to issue a final notice on the carrier's permit request in the coming days.

Last December, the Chairman of the Air Serbia Supervisory Board, Siniša Mali, confirmed that ticket sales would begin in February. "During February we will launch a promotional campaign and reveal our fares [to New York]. Tickets will be affordable and very competitive. Air Serbia does not aim to be the cheapest airline in the region, we will leave that to budget airlines such as Wizz Air. Our fares will align to our on board service quality but they will be competitive compared to our competition", he said at the time. The newly appointed Ambassador of the United States to Serbia, Kyle Randolph Scott, noted yesterday that the introduction of flights to New York is an important milestone in relations between the two countries. He added that he is aware of the recent checks conducted by the US Transportation Security Administration (TSA) in Belgrade, whose positive assessment is a prerequisite for permit approval.

Air Serbia will lease a Jet Airways Airbus A330-200 aircraft for its first transatlantic service. The jet will have the capacity to seat 256 passengers and will feature eighteen seats in business class, while the remaining 238 will be in economy, according to officials who inspected the plane in Abu Dhabi recently. Last week, Jet Airways' Chief Financial Officer, Amit Agarwal, told analysts in a post-earnings conference call that the Indian carrier is likely to lease A330 jets to its Serbian counterpart. The Serbian PM noted late last year that Air Serbia will most likely take delivery of a second wide-body aircraft by the end of 2016, adding that, "flights to New York are just the beginning". "I can't reveal much, but I expect that we will get a second wide-body aircraft by the end of next year. Therefore, we will have two. So we have one for backup", Mr Vučić said at the time.

149 comments:

  1. And what if they fail the TSA check? Then those tickets won't be of much use

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    1. They obviously passed.

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    2. Try reading the actual news. They will get their final permit in the next couple of days. So they will start selling ticket once they get all permits. Stop clinging to strings.

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    3. Yep US ambassador endorsed the flights knowing they failed the TSA. LOL.

      I still remember people saying how JU would never get a license because the Middle East Big Three are fighting against US carriers.

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    4. Yes and I remember people saying here how JU will become a regional leader.

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    5. It is a regional leader in the ex-YU market. And, its going from strength to strength.

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    6. Anon 9:57 AM
      "going from strength to strength" by flying -11.5% passengers and being the only airline that has contracting traffic in the Balkans?
      And yes, Balkans is our region.

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    7. No, the only airline that had double digit growth in 2015.

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    8. Double digit in Serbia? Ex-YU or the Balkans?

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    9. Overall passenger increase in 2015 was double digit. But you of course know that very well. You just wish so bad that we can take only one month (January 2016) and do all the math based on it - nothing else can count so that your hate can have some base.

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    10. You still didn't reply to my question, when you made a comment that JU was the only airline to record double digit passenger growth, did you refer to Serbia, ex-YU or the Balkans?

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  2. Ako prodaja karata krece od sljedeceg tjedna, zasto se jos uvijek ne zna u kojem terminu polazi iz Beograda, te kad se vraca?
    Ispricavam se ukoliko sam propustio tu informaciju.

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    1. A ceo svet mora da bude informisan o vremenima poletanja pre nego sto pocne prodaja? Tako isto i druge kompanije objave vremena pre nego sto pocne prodaja?

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    2. mislim da sam pročitao da je u 1020 polazak iz BEG

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    3. @Anonymous at 9:08 AM

      čemu nervoza?

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    4. To nije uopšte tačno. Karte i let letenja se uglavnom objavljuju u isto vreme

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  3. "This service is a matter of prestige", said the Serbian Prime Minister.
    Are we to expect Etihad to cover the costs of Serbian PM's prestige flights?

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    1. Do you think Etihad is stupid enough to do that? Of course it's gonna be the Serbian taxpayers. This year it was 22M Euro, with this "matter of prestige" it's likely to exceed 30M Euro next year :)

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    2. Actually you can read the takeover agreement from two years ago to see who covers what.

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    3. Serbia covers all the losses, the Arabs get to shell to us overpriced services and equipment.

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    4. Again, read the takeover agreement.

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    5. I did and I am saying what's written there.

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    6. As always, misinformed, cynical and malicious comments from embittered "experts".

      Even though the agreement is clearly stipulating who finances what, in black and white, for centuries to come, we will listen to the stories of these worried expenditure controllers of the Serbian budget telling us how the Serbian tax payers are being ripped off, by the manipulative and imperialist Arab conquerors of Serbian destiny.

      Don't you ever get tired of creating intrigues about JU and the way it gets financed. Your stories have been disproved a million times here, yet you still weave the same old net of deceit.

      For goodness sake, read the damn contract, and save us from your fake zalopojke.

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    7. Centuries to come? Buddy please, we should celebrate if JU is still around in the next five years. :/
      We are just looking at facts and the current situation in the airline, you could do the same if you only removed your head from the sand. :(

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    8. Anon 9:54,

      Your statement pretty clearly indicates that you cannot read.

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    9. Anon 10:11,

      What you are "looking" at is one isolated period/season and you take it as stone-carved trend that nothing can change.

      And before that period, when facts were much different, you simply ignored them and insisted on anything but facts (LF, Arab conspiracy, taxpayers money, etc.)

      If JU makes 90% LF on their JFK route you will of course ignore that and stick to yield, overwhelming Star Alliance competition, underdeveloped regional network and anything that bears some negative impression.

      The other guy may have his hand in the sand but yours is in an isolated room with walls covered in red-painted slogans: "JU must die!", "Die JU!", "JU die, I live!"

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    10. Anon 9:40, 9:54, 10:07

      I don't care what the takeover agreement states, most probably it is the document disclosed publicly to convince taxpayers (and EU) that everything's transparent, fair, non-discriminant etc. But I exactly know how much Serbian government wrote off this year (22M EUR). Don't ask me questions like "how do you know" or "prove it", cause these are confidential info ;)

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    11. It's not confidential at all. In the agreement it says a total of 42 million euros will be given to cover airport taxes, which has been divided into two payments. That was even published as news on this very site 2 years ago. So yeah, you SHOULD read the agreement instead of making a fool out of yourself with "confidential info"

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    12. The agreement tells you exactly how much each side pays and when. The 22 million you are talking about is stated in that agreement you didn't read. If you can't bother reading it at least find a summary which was published here.

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    13. Anon 2:14,

      Of course you don't care. Because if the facts don't serve your conspiracy agenda then you simply don't care about them. You don't want to read, you don't want to inform yourself about things you say you care about - and you want to be taken seriously on the topic.

      Well, don't get surprised if you are not taken seriously.

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  4. Oh boy... There's gonna be a lot of hate in the air today. And of course a zillion reminders on disastrous winter timetable, losses in the transfer market, insufficient frequencies, attacks from Star Alliance, defeats left and right... And then someone will mention Wizz adding some routes and frequencies in Romania to respond to Ryanair's challenge, and within 10 seconds another 'very bad news for Air Serbia' comment will follow, and just when you think they finally used up all their ammo they will pull out the prime minister, this politician, that politician... And of course they will desperately hope - until the very end - that the TSA check could somehow turn into a fail. And when it does not fail they will load their guns with more of the famous hate bullets 'JU's 5 flights p/w against LH's 50 flights p/w, hahahahahahaha' they dare to call 'comments'. And so on and so on...

    On a positive note, it is a sunny day outside. Makes no difference to obsessed haters but the rest of us could put up a smile regardless of JU or any other airline.

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    1. Got that right

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    2. Yes Yes Yes. Thank God for spome sense ..

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    3. It's actually cloudy outside but anyway.

      I guess you are absolutely right, the so called haters were wrong all along which is best proven by the airline's impeccable track record and all of their success stories.

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    4. Anon 9:31,

      What you and other haters constantly fail to grasp is so simple: this is not a 'right vs wrong' game. This is not about whose numbers are pinky and whose are shady. None of us visitors to this blog gets nothing out of this 'who was right and who was wrong' game. We should simply sit back, watch and comment as bystanders. And yet, some people here talk as if their life will prematurely end if JU does not fail and go bust. And I am sure their lives will go on even if JU somehow manages to exist. But they don't understand it. That's where the problem is.

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    5. Comments in 6 months will be like:

      "Those flights are disaster!!!"

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    6. Well, you know what they say, it takes to tango. There is a reason why there is so much animosity towards JU, not just on this blog but generally in Serbia. You can see that from the comments on daily newspapers such as Blic, B92 or Vecernje Novosti.

      My opinion is that it's because of Vucic and the excessive mixing with politics. Air Serbia was created as a political project.

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    7. *takes two to tango

      Sorry.

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    8. I see you point but this is not the blog of Blic or Novosti, right? We are supposed to be aviation enthusiasts here, not some average consumers of tabloids who have replaced their brains with sensationalist headlines. It is very sad to see cheap daily politics shaping up comments here.

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    9. Amen to that! I don't care how the airline was established, ultimately it'll succeed, or fail according to the market and the law of supply and demand. Personally, I wish them all the best! I travel to Bridgeport, Connecticut at least twice a year and naturally via the JFK, because it's better connected to Europe and slightly closer than the Boston Logan, I'll definitely try out the Air Serbia flight this very summer.
      Regards from Croatia!

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  5. What do both the Prime Minister and the Chairman of the Air Serbia Supervisory Board have to do with a company lunching tickets for a new route? Those two are just messing up, actually it's a part of the new political campaign, I'd say. Besides, the first one brake the law, he can not back any particular company. He has to take care about equal conditions for all of them.

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    1. On je deo suvlasnickog tima Srbije u toj kompaniji. Imas priliku da ga menjas u aprilu.

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    2. Political self promotion aside, please note the subtle symbolism as an indication in which direction alliances will go post elections: PM is making a big deal of selling tickets to New York, not to Moscow.

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    3. Yet that same prime minister will establish an office for cooperation with Moscow. ;)

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    4. Anon 12:28,

      It may have something to do with the fact that JFK is the prime global airline destination, the dream of every airline out there. Plus it is a long haul flight from Serbia which puts it in a different league compared to Moscow.

      Not everything in this world should be squeezed into your private USA vs. Russia war.

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    5. Must be for the President.

      Anyway, back to aviation. Any info on where tickets will be available in the USA, except online?

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    6. For the president and for over 80% of the Serbian population.

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  6. OT: Croatia Airlines introduces 1 weekly flight Dubrovnik-Tel Aviv

    eff 28JUN16 Dubrovnik – Tel Aviv 1 weekly until 04OCT16
    OU354 DBV1750 – 2130TLV 319 2
    OU355 TLV2220 – 0020+1DBV 319 2

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    1. These flights operated in the past as well.

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    2. Neat. Does the aircraft spend the night in DBV or does it return to ZAG?

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    3. Now let's learn how 1 flight p/w, mainly introduced for Israeli tourists, is 'very bad news for Air Serbia'. 3, 2, 1...

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    4. It's not bad news because JU doesn't offer connections between DBV and TLV.

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    5. OK then. Finally a route that is not about "good or bad for JU" but more about the airline that actually opens it. Congrats to OU!

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    6. The only problem is that this route is not new.

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    7. I just looked at the 2015 schedule provided here and I see that they suspended this route last year. So it is kind of new. Apologies for my previous comment.

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    8. This route was suspended in 2014 thus it could be named as the new one. It is also worth to mention that this was charter, now it will be an ordinary line ;)

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  7. Molim administratora da izbriše nepotrebne komentare tipa "haters...", "bad news for Air Serbia..." jer nimalo ne pridonose raspravi nego su odraz nečije isfrustriranosti. Hvala!

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    1. +1 ...ovih dana ce administrator imati pune ruke posla.

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  8. Lju
    73.567 +0,6
    http://www.fraport.de/content/fraport/de/misc/binaer/investor-relations/verkehrszahlen/2016/verkehrszahlen-januar-2016/jcr:content.file/01-traffic-sheet-2016-januar_deutsch.pdf

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  9. OT:
    Ryan adds Berlin (daily), Hamburg (3x), Madrid (4x) and Barcelona (3x) from SOF
    11 destinations in total for now

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    1. Wizz kaput! Ovo ce biti jedna velika borba. Ocekujem Ryan u SKP uskoro! INI moze da se ugasi...

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    2. tačno

      the finalization of the highway to the Bulgarian border will be deadly for INI

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    3. Why? If INI can offer something to LCCs they may also get their share of routes. Same way Tuzla did. They could have also said: 'That's it, we are dead, there is BEG, there is SJJ, once there is a connection to E70 we're doomed'. But they stood up and fought. It may not last forever but at least they tried. The easiest thing is to do nothing under the excuse that it wouldn't work anyway.

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    4. Samo pametnjakovicu da te obavestim i premijera srbije da bugarska uopste ne radi deo autoputa prema srbiji. njima je prioritet da urade put do mosta u kalafatu preko dunava.

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    5. @11:33 pa ne lete za Bazel i Malme, kako mislis da naude INI?

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    6. INI nije Tuzla. Ima tri ozbiljna aerodroma u krugu od 100 i kusur Kilometara, sa ozbiljnom LCC ponudom!

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    7. i think they gave on SKP and concentrate now on SOF

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    8. Anon 12:23
      The slow part is through the mountains in Serbia. The highway is not a priority coz it is not much needed (after the border it is partly a 2x2 road), plus it is only 60km to airport from there, plus they are building a new northern highway ring. This coupled with Priština and Skoplje vicinity makes INIs life quite hard

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    9. @ Anon February 10, 2016 at 1:23 PM

      The northern bypass of Sofia was inaugurated 2 weeks ago. They are planning to start building the autobahn from the border to Sofia.

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    10. Fantastic news also for Southern Serbia and Macedonia

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  10. It is totally childish to call someone "hater" just because one has different opinion about Air Serbia.

    1. It is normal that people on this blog discuss about movements Air Serbia and GoS make. That is democracy, and that is purpose of blog.

    2. Yes I think Air Serbia is leader of exYU in this moment and I can not see that any other exYU company will overtake this in next 2 years, even if someone buy Croatia Airlines. There is little chance for than also in 5 years period.
    - AM I CROATIA AIRLINES HATER NOW?

    3. Air Serbia 4 waves, hub system, frequencies, logical feeding routes, improved service, new A319/A320 fleet, collaboration with lot of code-share to Etihad, Alitalia and Air Berlin are very good, I really could not suggest anything more on that. It was made 99% almost perfect.
    - AM I CROATIA AIRLINES HATER NOW?

    4. I would be more than happy if Croatia Airlines did just 50% of things I mention in article 3.
    - AM I CROATIA AIRLINES HATER NOW?

    5. But realization of that project was not very good:
    - even today there are lot of problems inside company,
    - service is not that superior that company want to present (especially in economy class)
    - data are mist-published or they fight against publish of bad results that makes doubt all progress of company
    - cuts in winter time-table is disaster for system company want to make (if you put extra effort in new routes and attract passenger it is stupid to loose them because of bad connectivity; once you loose them they will hardly come back),
    - to change prices from huge dumping (80 EUR for ZAG-BEG-ZAG) to expensive 190 EUR in just few days is not very good option,
    - prices today are too high and noncompetitive,
    - results in last 4 months are very bad,
    - JFK flights will spent lot of money, it is huge risk, there is not a big chance that those flight will be profitable in near future especially if it will not be much more supported by feeding routes (and for now it is not)
    - what will be with those flights in winter especially if they will again cut frequencies to feet JFK route,
    - this project is political one.

    - IS THIS MAKE ME AIR SERBIA HATER NOW?

    5. How can I be hater of Air Serbia if I use that company even more than Croatia Airlines and if I will use JFK route if price will be lower than connection via VIE, FRA, MUC, ZRH, BUR, AMS, CDG, LHR, SVO, IST...?

    How can I hate in same time Croatia airlines and Air Serbia?

    So, do not try to find "unutarnji i vanjski neprijatelj". People on this blog are not that. Air Serbia should take critics and change what is not good. Not to say, everything is perfect and one who can not see that is "hater" and enemy.

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    1. You are not a hater Purger. I do not think anyone sane means that.

      But that does not mean there are no haters at all. There is a bunch of them, and it is very easy to spot them. Unlike you, they never use relaxed arguments. Their main weapons are hysteria, demagogy and obsessive repetition of political phrases. You don't do such things. Even when I disagree with you I still respect your opinion.

      And I do not think this is much ado about Serbia vs Croatia. Sad truth is, most of the hate towards Air Serbia actually comes from Serbia and it is part of Serbian stone age politics, also known as: 'I am so happy when the other guy dies, we can never work together, it is either him or me'. Serbs traditionally have no bigger enemies than other Serbs. They don't need to search abroad at all.

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    2. Regarding the network for JFK-connex:
      could someone explain the planned BEG-JFK timetable?

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    3. Odakle ti podaci da su finansijski rezultati u poslednja 4 meseca losi? Hajde, podeli ih sa nama konkretno ili prestani da trolujes konstantno. Prvo si pricao o dampingu a sad kazes da imaju ne konkurentne cene?

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    4. Da su rezultati tako dobri ne bi se vanredno smanjivao saobracaj. To je obicno indikacija da finansijski rezultati nisu tako dobri... juce smo videli da su poceli da otkazuju i BEY koji je od samog pocetka isao dobro.

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    5. @12:05 nisam trazio misljenje od tebe vec od naseg eksperta. Molim konkretne brojke a ne price o rezanju zimskog reda letenja i otkazanim letovima u dnu sezone...

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    6. Ali eto onda i ja isto trazim od tebe da podelis sa nama tvoje podatke koji dokazuju da situacija nije onakva kakva najverovatnije i jeste.

      Unapred hvala.

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    7. @12:23 ... aha, znaci, mogu da kazem sta hocu a da za to nemam nikakvih dokaza a za uzvrat trazim kontra dokaze, zanimljiva analitika. Trebalo bi da znas da ASL izbacuje kvartalne izvestaje o poslovanju a ne mesecne pa se jos malo strpi..

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    8. Bas iz tog razloga sto JU ne objavljuje mesecne podatke primoran sam da koristim druge indikacije kao sto su red letenja, stanje flote, mreza i broj nedeljnih ucestalosti itd.

      Isto tako, u tim kvartalnim izvestajima ne stoje SVI finansijski izvestaji te se cak ni tad ne moze sagledati potpuna situacija.

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    9. Adria ne izbacuje ni kvartalne rezultate vec samo godisnje.
      Croatia Airlines izbacuje samo svartalne.

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    10. Kakve sad to veze ima? Air Serbia ima da izbacuje dnevne, ma šta dnevne, ima na svakih sat vremena da izbacuju detaljne izveštaje kako bi svi skeptici bili zadovoljni i kako ih ne bi optuživali da prikrivaju arapsku zaveru epskih proporcija.

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    11. Ma jok, ko jos zeli da iznosi svoj prljavi ves na svakih sat vremena. Bolje ovako na 3 meseca. I to selektivno, naravno.

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    12. pozdrav za kolegu iz zagreba, odlicna analiza kao i svaka do sada !

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    13. Pa da, oni koji zele nesto da sakriju objavljuju selektivno svoje rezultate. Ili mozda hoces da kazes da JU krije svoje milionske profite kako ne bi morala da plati porez od 15% drzavi? :D :D :D

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    14. Selektivnost finansijskih izvestaja je nesto sto se podrazumeva u poslovnom svetu.

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    15. Ono što on kaže, a ti i ostali opsednuti mračnjaci ne shvatate, je da JU objavljuje svoje podatke manje-više istim ritmom i sa istom transparentnošću kao i većina drugih prevoznika uključujući i one iz EU.

      Da, bilo bi sjajno da nam svakog meseca pokažu sve ali to što nam ne pokazuju je više nepisano pravilo u industriji a manje nekakva ogromna zavera kojom ste ti i tvoji drugari opsednuti.

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    16. Da, imam podatke iz same kompanije i poražavajući su. Pritome su financijski rezultati najmanje bitni, obzirom da se minusi naknađuju od državne subvencije. Nažalost, ostali pokazatelji su vrlo loši (broj konektiranih putnika, popunjenost poglavito kod nekih bitnih linija, broj odlazaka pilota i kabinaca...).

      E sad jel situacija kaotična i pred propadanjem? Nije, daleko od toga. Jel dobra? Uopće nije i hitno se nešto mora promijeniti jer bi kompanija mogla imati ozbiljnih problema.

      Osobno smatram da je management pogriješio i da je sve gore navedeno produkt te pogreške:

      - cijene su trebale ići gore, ali razumno, pa se tako umjesto dumping cijene od 80 EUR za liniju ZAG-BEG-ZAG cijenu trebaolo podići na 110-120 EUR, nikako ne na 190. To bi bilo dovoljno motivirajuće i skok ne bi bio toliko ogroman

      - kompanija bi trebala razmisliti o tome da nema superiornu uslugu u ekonomskoj klasi, pa da onda ako je već nema ne bi trebala niti zadržavati usluge koje poskupljuju cijenu, a putnicima nisu toliko bitne (deke, jastuci, wi-fi). Konačno, putnik u ekonomskoj klasi danas gleda isključivo cijenu (jer da Air Serbija ima istu cijenu kao i konkurencija deke i jastuci neće pomoći, nego će se putnik odlučiti za bolji ff program, sigurnije konekcije, veći broj frekvencija...)

      - Naravno ovo se ne odnosi na business klasu koja i po mom mišljenju treba biti superiorna (i smatram ogromnom greškom što tako nije i kod drugih kompanija)

      - moglo se smanjiti broj letova, ali nikako toliko da se konektiranost svodi na minimalnu ili nikakvu, jer ako imate 4 leta prema nekoj destinacij i 4 feeding leta onda je konektiranost tek 2-3 leta tjedno, što je puno premalo. Ispod 6 letova tjedno nije se smjelo ići

      - trebalo se više usmjeriti na smanjenje kapaciteta (maksimalno korištenje ATR-ova i A319, a stacioniranje A320, ili pak 100% korištenje cijele flote ali uz samo 2 vala)

      Stoga mislim da se kompanija mora odlučiti želi li zadržati hubni sustav ili ne. Ako želi, onda ili mora iznači način da on profunkcionira (i u zimskom periodu) poglavito nakon uvođenja JFK linija, ili ga mora izmjeniti (npr. samo 2 vala tijekom zime uz nočenje u feeding destinacijama, uz pokoji ekstra let za destinacije koje imaju više od 7 frekvencija tjedno).

      U protivnom cijeli sustav će se urušiti nakon što prestanu ogromne subvencije, a JFK letovi tome mogu samo pridonjeti.

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    17. Posle dve godine najzad normalan post od tebe. Karta do Beca ne bi smela da bude vise od 140 jura sve sa njihovim beckim visokim taksama plus jos i mogucnost leta u jednom pravcu da ne kosta bubreg.

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    18. Purgeru, ako se nastavi ovakva situacija, da li mislis da ce EY dovesti novog CEO-a kao sto su to uradili u drugim kompanijama koje nisu pokazale boljitak?

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    19. svaka cast jos jednom na argumentovanoj diskusiji. kao dodatak iznecu licni primer - pre nekoliko dana razmatrao sam letovanje u regiji Dubrovnika. Nekako sam preziveo previsoke cene pansionske i vanpansionske potrosnje, ali kada sam pokusao da bukiram avio karte na liniji BEG-DBV-BEG (4x300 eur) za datum 6 meseci unapred shvatio sam da je paket u 5 star resort-u u Spaniji daleko privlacniji od Dubrovnika. Nadam se da ce turisticki operateri iz Dubrovnika i komercijala ASL videti ovaj post.

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    20. "Da imam podatke" ...ali ih necu podeliti sa vama, ali su porazavajuci... a finansijski podaci nisu bitni.. sta reci..

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    21. Cekaj, BEG-DBV je €300 po osobi?! Doduse to i nije tako cudno kada su imali BUD na super suboti za €174.

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    22. Neverovatni ste. Nikada vam ništa nije po volji. Kada je jeftino - ko plaća damping, gde je yield? Kada je skupo - u, pa ne može ovako, sad ću ja onako stručno da odredim cenu koja će svima odgovarati. Po vama bi JU trebalo da u isto vreme bude socijalna ustanova, visoko profitabilna kompanija, orkestar za ispunjavanje muzičkih želja i bokserska vreća za svakog kome nešto u životu nije po volji. Ne znam samo ko će da vam napravi takvog hibrida.

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    23. @3:55 postovani, ali vi nemate "porazavajuce podatke iznutra", da imate onda bi kapirali sta pojedinci ovde pricaju.

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    24. @3:06 ako ti stvarno treba karta BEG-DBV mozes je naci i za duplo manje od toga sto si iz nekog razloga napisao.. Ja sam iz zezanja dabo 142eur. Cemu takve dezinformacije?

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    25. Purger great post.
      +1000

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    26. G purger sto opet sirite ne istinu da imate informacije kad kompaniji raste broj putnika i finansije su se popravile .
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    27. Pruger stvarno si ono najveći negativac ovde a i pišeš 80% stvari koje nemaju ni malo osnove. Nekada kada čitam tvoje mišljenje počnem da se smijem toliko glasno da moji misle da gledam neku komediju. Ako ti misliš da je AS krenula nizbrdo onda stvarno nemaš pojma šta se dešava u toj kompaniji. Oni ne da veoma dobro posluju nego van svih očekivanja. Ovi hejteri pokušavaju na sve moguće načine da ubace razne dezinformacije ali ko god radi u AS i ko ima malo znanja zna da su oni u velikom usponu i da rade veoma dobar posao. Jedini je problem flota kojoj nedostaje od 5-7 aviona ali ima i to da se riješi pošto su i ti razgovori u toku.

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    28. INN-NS @ 5:04... PLS do learn some statistics...especaly go through TREND issue.

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    29. Hahahah excuse me Nenad but are you for really or are you being sarcastic. I really can't tell.

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    30. Anonymous 2:50
      Pa ne mislim ja da je ove zime napravljeno nešto preužasno što bi trebalo rezultirati smjenom CEO. Čovjek je pokušao, ako je ikada trebao rezati onda je to bilo sada (da se uštede novci za pokretanje JFK, tu će trebati i puno reklame, i dumpinga, i dodatnih troškova pokretanja linije). I kad se to desilo i svi su drvlje i kamenje, ja sam rekao da to nije tragedija ako je privremeno stanje i ako se korijenito izmjeni na proljeće.

      Naravno, bilo bi bolje da se nije desilo jer je to ipak rezultiralo da se izgubi određeni broj putnika, koji će se vrlo teško vratiti (ne i nemoguće). Uvjeren sam da nisu znali da će te mjere toliko mnogo srozati rezultate. I zato mislim da su pretjerali (kao što sam rekao trebalo je podići cijene, ali ne toliko mnogo, trebalo je srezati frekvencije, ali ne ih raskasapiti toliko mnogo). No, ako je to bilo nužno radi financija potrebnih za JFK onda to i nije najgora stvar koja se mogla desiti. Gore bi bilo da su nastavili sa enormnim dumpingom i nerealnim frekvencijama i potrošili sav novac, te u startu unišili šansu za JFK ili cijeli sustav na ljeto.

      Što se tiće podataka, da, ja ih imam. Obečao sam izvoru da ih neću iznositi jer su osobe koje takve stvari iznose u Air Serbiji u istinskoj opasnosti za svoj posao. OK, ne kažem da i ja ne bih tako postupio na mjestu Kondića. Nije na radnicima da iznose loše podatke. I ja bih davao otkaze. Obzirom da cijenim te izvore o nikada nisam prekrišio povjerenje, neću ga ni sada. A vi prihvatite da je tako, ili nemojte, pa ćete se jednog dana uvjeriti da je bilo tako. Meni iskreno svejedno. No, ja svoje zaključke ne iznosi temeljem mokrih snova ili kristalne kugle, već temeljem podataka. Ili ih ne iznosim.

      Pa još jednom ponavljam ono što je bitno:
      "E sad jel situacija kaotična i pred propadanjem? Nije, daleko od toga. Jel dobra? Uopće nije i hitno se nešto mora promijeniti jer bi kompanija mogla imati ozbiljnih problema."

      Za kraj, dajte ljudi nemojte iz svih nas ovdje raditi budale! Nitko nije rekao da je totalni dumping dobar (on kao kratkotrajna mjera to jest, ali nije održiv na duge staze), no isto tako nije normalno povisiti cijene sa 80 na 190 EUR. Takav skok odbija potencijalne putnike. Svi ste dobro pročitali što sam napisao:

      "cijene su trebale ići gore, ali razumno, pa se tako umjesto dumping cijene od 80 EUR za liniju ZAG-BEG-ZAG cijenu trebaolo podići na 110-120 EUR, nikako ne na 190. To bi bilo dovoljno motivirajuće i skok ne bi bio toliko ogroman".
      Dakle nemojte od od mene i od čitatelja raditi budale. Nismo klinci u vrtiću, ni piljarice na placu!

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    31. Nisu vam tacni izvori .
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    32. Purgeru, valjda bi tebi trebalo da bude jasno da ce ASL, posle Jatovog perioda, radi ponovnog sticanja poverenja i pridobijanja putnika pocetak poslovanja zapoceti nizim tarifama i promocijama ali si ti to teatralno nazvao dampingom.
      Cene karata ZAG-BEG koje spominjes naravno, nisu tolike jer nisu fiksne. Tek si kasnije rekao da se radi o 1.1. i 4.1.
      Izjava da navodno imas izvor iz ASL o katastrofalno losoj situaciji a koje ne zelis da nam saopstis toboze cuvajuci svoj izvor i svoju rec je u najblaze receno, smehotresna.

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    33. Ali aman zasto vas cudi sto je toliko kostao let iz ZAG za BEG kada su BUD prodavali za nekih 150 evra a da ne spominjem SJJ koji je skoro stalno oko 150. Dakle primarna konkurencija ovim destinacijama je drug i pruga. Na ovim linijama se koristi ekonomicni Atr te cena nikada ne bi trebalo da bude vise od 110 evra.

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    34. ostavite komsiju na miru i sami znate da sve sto je izneo JESTE ISTINA !

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    35. *drug je trebalo biti drum

      A samo da dodam da svaki put kada sam gledao karte za SJJ cena je bila oko 168, cak i kada je leteo B&H

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    36. Anonymous 8:13
      Ja nisam napisao da je stanje katastrofalno. Pa i treći puta ponavljam za one kojima čitanje teže ide:

      "E sad jel situacija kaotična i pred propadanjem? Nije, daleko od toga."

      Da jasno je da je putnike trebalo vratiti dumpingom. I to sam jasno naveo, taj potez je dobar i bio je potreban. Ja samo govorim da nakon dumpinga (80 EUR za ZAG-BEG-ZAG) kompanija nije smjela skočiti na 150-190 EUR za istu kartu. Realna cijena bi bila 110-120 EUR, sve preko toga je previše, a 150-190 EUR je puno previše. Poglavito za kartu u vrijeme mrtve sezone (tih dana otkazivan je jedan od dva leta, a tek kasnije 6, 7. i 8.1. su cijene bitno porasle radi pravoslavnog Božića).

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  11. Congrats from the superfan! Getting my plastic ready for next week!

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    1. Same here! Let's enjoy it while it lasts. :)

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    2. I agree, 5 days per week is not going to last. They will go daily from next year!

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    3. Wrong. I think it will be double daily because it will have a split schedule.

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  12. Odlicne vesti za ASL .
    Ovo je veliki uspeh za samu kompaniju sto ce joj povecati broj putnika na regionalnim letovima dosta pa bi mogli resiti problem sa Regionalnom flotom lako .
    Da predloze AB letove iz MUC i STR i da ta 2 Q400 lete za ASL neke regionalne letove npr do PRN, INN dodati jos frekvencija za DBV, OTP i SOF.
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  13. @3:06 BEGDBV for July and August travel is around 136EUR, so why being so malicious??

    @ Purger - you can find BEGZAG for as near as 140EUR. If you are a business traveler and staying less than 3 days, then it's highly possible you will pay higher fare. But where did you see 190EUR I have no clue...

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    1. It was price for flight 1st January ZAG-BEG, 4th January BEG-ZAG. Same date last year it was 80 EUR. I had 3 potential passenger (570 EUR). Instead of that I gave them official car at that cost me not even close to that.

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    2. @6:50 Naravno, ali "lepse" zvuci 190 i 300eur.

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    3. Purger, ma nije moguce da su 1.1 i 4.1. bile vece cene... Zar ono prosle godine ne bese damping?

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    4. @Purger: so basically you are saying that the price you've mentioned is a price for peak flights during New Year Holidays when airlines are trying to make the money, right?

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    5. And on a side note, to quote Purger:"- to change prices from huge dumping (80 EUR for ZAG-BEG-ZAG) to expensive 190 EUR in just few days is not very good option,"

      Was it in just a few days or same date but one year before?

      Is it possible that for a serious analytic person of which you are presenting yourself to take as a general observation 'one flight example'.

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    6. Pruger voli da izmislja i stvarno zasmejava sve nas koji imamo barem malo znanja o avioindustriji. Bas me zanima zasto voli da toliko petlja?

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    7. It was not peek flights as they cancel morning flight on 1st and evening on 4th January. Peek is 21-24th December and 8-10th January (before catholic Christmas and after orthodox Christmas). New year day for sure is not peek, as just few people travel on that day. Most of companies cancel flights on that day, and even Air Serbia did so. Today, price of ticket for that flight is 144-160 EUR, and that is too much.

      I am frequent flyer on ZAG-BEG route and I am not making observation on one flight example.

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    8. Then you would be amazed by the LF during D71 after NY Eve from BEG

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  14. Pardon maj frenč, ali jako me zanima da li su tačne priče da će A332 imati modifikovanu šemu bojenja odnosno da će na vingletima ili kako se već zovu kod A330 biti zastava Srbije, a da će na trbuhu umesto natpisa Air Serbia biti takođe zastava u gro planu?

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  15. My mother had to fly FRA-BEG-FRA twice in early December and late January(both off season dates). She flew both times with LH for 148 and 169 euros. ASL was more than 250. It's clear that they rip off the diaspora for O/D traffic while dumping FRA-BEG-BEY-BEG-FRA and similar. My mother called me today to book for April and immediately said: but don't look for Air Serbia. Is she now a hater? A Serbian, born in Belgrade.... and many of her friends also after short euphoria two years ago now AVOID ASL because of rip off fares and frequent cancellations. It's the fares and a stable schedule and punctuality that attract passengers in Europe. Forget wi-fi, blankets and similar bling bling!

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    1. so when you look at flights, you go airline by airline? that's not very efficient :)

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    2. Well, there aren't that many options between BEG and FRA even with connections.

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    3. Do you guys think it would be smart for W6 to launch Frankfurt-Hahn flights from BEG?

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    4. Don't think so. LH has already lowered their flights to FRA in the winter. Not much demand on the route.

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    5. Anon8:45
      This is exactly my experience too.
      Flying BEG-ATH is usualy more expensive than flying WAW-BEG-ATH.
      They are using people flying to or from Serbia to subsidise the tickets of connecting passengers.

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    6. There is a considerable market between BEG and FRA, for the love of God even Jat had a daily flight that was only filled with O&D.

      As for ATH I suppose they must have reduced their fares sinec Aegean became more aggressive.

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    7. Haha, you make me lough.Your mother told you not look at AS fares as they are too expessive:)?? Honestly sounds like you are posting in the kindergarden post..We all know that LF and AS are the same price except they serve you a real meal on AS and you get a sendwich on LH. haha, honestly your comment is too funny

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    8. And still LH has more flights on that route, their passengers numbers go up this winter and JU numbers down?!?!?!?!?

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    9. JU tends to be quite more expensive actually, especially during summer months when it's not uncommon to find fares as high as €400! So I wouldn't be surprised if that actually happened.

      As far as LH goes, it has something JU doesn't, reliability.

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    10. I am telling you, each time I checked on different websites like swoodoo.com and similar, ASL is always most expensive on FRA-BEG. Even YM via TGD is cheaper. Of course they can file high fares, that's no problem, however for the diaspora it's hard to understand since JAT always had attractive fares sometimes exactly matching LH. People are sensitive, they expect from the "national" carrier to somehow attract them. I think if the ASL fare would be like 20€ more than LH, my mother would use it - but not for 100€ more. That's what these elderly people don't like and consider rip-off. Furthermore with LH they can be sure the flight is 100% taking place and not being cancelled 28 days before.....

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  16. wap.business-standard.com/article/bs/jet-airways-explores-lease-sale-options-for-its-long-haul-planes-116012900228_1.html

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    1. Why doesn't JU lease a 777? It may launch YYZ, CHI, BOS, YTO. They can compete with LO..

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    2. Because a 777 is way too much plane for them. Even an A330 is a rather big bite.

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  17. Will AirSerbia become a Signatory Visa Waiver Program (VWP) Carrier? Or will the EU citizens who normally don't require a US visa be required to obtain one if they fly on AirSerbia?

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    1. interesting question...

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    2. Anon 1:18 AM. Vase pitanje dali ce Air Serbia postati potpisnik VWP prevoznik? To bi bilo vise nego dobro. Za sada nisam siguran. Zavisi od politike. Sto pitate dali EU drzavljani kojima normalno viza nije potrebna, da mozda moraju da imaju US vizu ukoliko lete sa Air Serbia??? Zaista vise nego smesno pitanje. Vaznost viza ne zavisi sa kim letite, nego ciji pasos(e) putnik nosi. Svaka dalja prica je nepotrebna. Zaista bi bilo sjajno da drzavljani Srbije mogu bez viza leteti ne samo za USA, vec i za UK, Kanadu, Australiju, Novi Zeland... Milioni ljudi su poreklom iz Srbije. Politika Srbije jeste najvecim delom odlucujuca u odnosu za navedene zemlje, da bi imali privilegiju ulaska u navedene zemlje bez viza. Vreme ce pokazati sta politicari hoce i mogu ciniti da bi ljudi bili slobodni da se krecu bez viza...
      Srecan let sa Air Serbia za JFK. I sam zelim da budem na Prvom letu. Naravno ukoliko bude mesta na povratnom letu.
      Spozdravom Rodney & Son.
      Kraljevo✈Sydney✈🌏✈

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    3. Netacno Radovane, pogledajte sta je "Signatory Visa Waiver Program (VWP) Carrier" i koja su pravila putovanja preko Visa Waiver programa. Kada uzimate elektronsku potvrdu (ESTA) morate da odaberete preko koje kompanije letite. Zato npr. EU drzavljani (i ostali kojima ne treba viza dakle Australijanci, Japanci, Novozelandjani) koji putuju licnim jetovima moraju da izvade vizu. Sto se tice putnika drzavljana Srbije oni ne mogu da putuju nikako bez vize jer Srbija nije deo VWP.

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    4. Ok, Anon 12:40 PM. U USA do sada sam leteo 21 put. Doduse nikada iz Beograda ba do sada. Leteo sam Qantasom, American Airlines, Britis Airwaysom, All Nipon Airlines, Virgin Atlantic, Lufthansom, South African Airwaysom... Leteci za USA sa svih kontinenata sa ovim avio kompanijama sa Australijskim pasosom, od kada je sklopljen sporazum izmedju Autralije i USA, nikada nisam imao bilo kakav problem. Ovo je licno iskustvo, uvazavajuci Vase znanje. Spozdravom, Radovan✈

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    5. Ne znam u cemu je vas problem Radovane, da li je toliko tesko ukucati VWP Signatory Carriers List u Google? Da ste se potrudili to da uradite videli biste da su sve kompanije koje ste pobrojali na listi, tako da ne znam zasto biste imali probleme?

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