Wednesday, November 16, 2016

Belgrade - Astana service expected by mid-2017


Flights between Belgrade and the Kazakh capital of Astana are expected to launch in the lead-up to the 2017 Expo, a major bi-annual international exposition which begins next June. It comes after the two countries signed a Memorandum of Cooperation in the aviation sector on the sidelines of the Kazakh - Serbian business forum held yesterday. The Chairman of the Air Serbia Supervisory Board and the Mayor of Belgrade, Siniša Mali, said, "We hope that conditions are met for Air Serbia to launch nonstop flights to Astana so we can further link our two nations and people, as well as work on boosting trade and tourism". It is the second time Mr Mali has talked up the prospects of flights between the two capital cities following initial comments made in late August. If the service goes ahead, it would likely operate on a seasonal basis.

The Kazakh Minister for Transport and Communications, Jenis Kasymbek, said, "Today we signed a memorandum for the opening of direct flights between Astana and Belgrade. We expect the service to commence in the lead-up to Expo, during the summer of 2017". Kazakhstan has designated its national airline, Air Astana, as a possible operating carrier on the route, while Serbia selected its own flag carrier. The upcoming Expo is estimated to bring in between two and three million visitors to Astana next year. As a result, Finnair has announced it will introduce seasonal summer flights from Helsinki to the Kazakh capital next June. Serbian citizens do not require a visa to enter Kazakhstan. Furthermore, Serbia is one of only a handful of European countries that do not require Kazakhstani passport holders entry visas.

Several European carriers currently fly to Astana. They include Aeroflot, Belavia, KLM, Lufthansa, Ukraine International Airlines and Greece's Ellinair. Furthermore, Air Serbia's part-owner Etihad Airways maintains services to the city. Currently, none of the national carriers from the former Yugoslavia operate flights to central Asia. Apart from potential transfer passengers, services between Belgrade and Kazakhstan could cater for Serbian workers and engineers who are involved in the development of several major infrastructure projects in the country, although whether this could be enough to turn the potential service into reality remains to be seen. In a recent interview, Air Serbia's CEO, Dane Kondić, said the airline saw potential in markets such as Central Asia. Slovenia's Adria Airways is also reported to be looking into the possibility of operating flights to Kazakhstan in the near future.

Planned Niš flight announcement
A planned announcement of the arrival of a third carrier at Niš Constantine the Great Airport, which was reported on earlier during the day by EX-YU Aviation News and set to be announced today, has been cancelled and postponed for a later date

132 comments:

  1. I still don't understand who will fly on this route. Where is the demand?

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    1. Maybe it can work if its seasonal. I doubt there is much demand for Helsinki-Astana either but they will be flying there because of the Expo.

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  2. What would the flight time be between Belgrade and Astana. Maybe these flights operate via Tehran?

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    1. My gues is around 4.30 hours to Astana.

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    2. Can a B737 make this route?

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    3. @ AnonymousNovember 16, 2016 at 10:34 AM

      I think there is enough demand for Belgrade-Tehran to run without a stop in any city. In fact I think it would be a surprise success for them like Beirut.

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    4. Belgrade-Astana is withing B737-300s range but I think it would make it just. A319 would have no problem to make this route.

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  3. Energoprojekat is building the metro in Almaty and has a few other high profile projects in the country.

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    1. There are currently 25 Serbian companies operating in Kazakhstan.

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    2. I love the metro in Almaty so clean and safe but very limited and access to some stations requires so many mobile stairs and walking.

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  4. The issue I see with this for Air Serbia is where will they find the planes. Unless they get another one. Especially since it would mean that a plane would be flying for around 10 or so hours.

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    1. Couldn't they just depart in the evening from Belgrade and arrive back early in time for the morning wave? Increases their potential passenger base with transfers.

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    2. But who would transfer. They already have Lufthansa and KLM for transfer options.

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    3. And lets not forget Turkish Airlines.

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    4. I would assume that the fares with Air Serbia would be lower

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    5. Austrian cancelled Astana just a few weeks ago.

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    6. Austrian is actually resuming Astana during the summer next year. They made the flights seasonal.

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    7. So, basically they shouldn't launch any destination just because someone is flying there?

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    8. There is also Aeroflot which flies to Astana and offers connections.

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    9. Guys there is also a plathora of airlines flying out of Beirut but Air Serbia is packed on these flights and 98% of passengers are transfers.

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    10. Yet JU failed in WAW and BUD and is not doing that well in most Western destinations since they can't fly more than daily but to a few of those.

      JU needs to improve its brand awareness before embarking on such adventures.

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    11. Don't know where you got your information but most of JU's western European destinations are actually performing significantly better than last year. Much more passengers. The one that actually saw numbers go down is Moscow.

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    12. If these destinations were performing so wonderfully then we would have seen additional frequencies, not cuts and reductions.

      Unless you consider 4 weekly flights to CPH and ARN a success. Even AMS was reduced from 10 to 7.

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    13. I think this is the most stupid type of comments we're seeing in-here: "It shouldn't be launched because TK, SU or whoever is flying there". Guys, TK, SU and others fly to 99% of destinations JU flies to so what, they should maybe close down the entire network?!

      The Beirut example is a slap in your face, an example that proves you totally wrong, yet JU didn't have the guts or the money to launch more of such destinations.

      As for me, the most obvious choice in Kazakhstan would be ALA or AKX.

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    14. Aэrologic fails again.

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  5. I would prefer if Air Astana operated this. Don't see how this route could turn a profit.

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    1. The route is being motivated by politics so I don't think they care much about profits. Same as New York.

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    2. And who's gonna pay for politicians mistakes? :the Serbian tax payers......yeeeeeaa!!!!

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    3. @2:15
      You people chose them. Now be quite and pay.

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    4. What about the other 50% who did not vote for them but are forced to pay?

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    5. Oh no anonymous 9 : 47 pm if you are a sucker and you like to pay them do it. Personally I don't! So they must privatise air serbia as soon as possible!

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  6. Haha interesting that Adria also wants fly Ljubljana to Astana. Does this expo generate so much demand?

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    1. Who will make it there first. Air Serbia or Adria ;)

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    2. Would not be surprised if its Adria. They are expected to end base operations out of Poland at the end of winter, so they will have an additional aircraft, plus they are getting another CRJ700. They actually have too many planes in Ljubljana now. They need to put it to use somewhere.

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    3. Too bad the CRJ900 does not have the range to operate these flights. Would have been excellent of this route.

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    4. People can't wait to fly 6 hours in a RJ. Too bad they don't have an ATR to fly that.

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    5. You do know they have A319 in their fleet?

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    6. I'm sure there is enough demand to fill A319, yes.

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    1. People here are so judgmental and stuck in the past. Maybe this route would have been crazy years ago but things change. Trends change. New markets open. Once the war in Syria is over and things stabilise I am sure European airlines will all want to start flying there because of the huge new diaspora created in Europe. I am sure they have done some study and identified that flights to Astana could be potentially successful.

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    2. Sorry don't see it happening.

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  8. It would be an interesting experiment. Whether it would actually work I'm not so sure.

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  9. Wouldn't it have been better for Air Serbia to have kept places like Kiev and LED operating all year then launching Astana out of all places?

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    1. Of course it would have but they simply don't have the planes for it.

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    2. They haven't actually announced these flights. They just said it would be expected if "all conditions are met" like it says in the article.

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  10. Will Air Serbia be getting more planes? How do they plan to fly new routes to Tehran, possibly Astana, and resume Kiev, St Petersburg and Ohrid.

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    1. They will have to do something about their regional fleet. As for the rest I'm not sure new planes will be coming before the A320neos in 2018.

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    2. From what I know one A319 is expected to come in 2017, and one more in 2018. That was at least the plan.

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    3. Thanks. They could possibly get planes from Air Berlin or Alitalia which seem to be getting rid of them.

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    4. Two B738 are supposed to arrive as a replacement for the two B733 that will have to be retired next year.

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    5. Nice! will they be flying for Aviolet or Air Serbia?

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    6. A320 and B738 in the same company. That makes perfect sense, economy wise.

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    7. With tiny fleet of two A320 and two 738 it makes no sense.

      Hope 738 story is not true. Get two A320 without business class instead.

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  11. Have a feeling this will end up like planned Baku-Belgrade flights.

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    1. lol or Belgrade-New York-Mexico City as announced by Zorana Mihajlovic.

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  12. I think it could work seasonally. Finnair will fly from 20th June and end on 11th August. This period could be good for JU to fly there as well.

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    1. Do you know how many times per week they will be flying it and with which plane.

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    2. Twice per week with A319.

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  13. Does anybody when will be opened de-icing platform at BEG ?

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  14. What happened with Nis new carrier announcement? Where all the comments gone? Hopefully you didn't mess something up with pre-announcement guys!

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  15. OT Swiss cancelled today's press conference thanks to leaked information. The guys for blame are representatives of INI and T6.

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    1. Highly doubt that they would cancel it because of a leak.

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    2. that's official reason.

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    3. Says who? Is there some press release which makes it official?

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    4. Pa purger ce juce da se hvali javno...
      Ako tako nam treba...
      Nauk za sledeci put cuti bolan

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    5. Alen Šćuric PurgerNovember 16, 2016 at 3:22 PM

      1. Niti sam dobio tu informaciju iz Niša, niti od ikoga iz Srbije. Niti sam tamo tražio te informacije. Tražio sam potvrdu i bio sam ignoriran!

      2. Uz to informacija je indirektno objavljena na facebooku jednog od pregovarača prije nego sam je ja objavio (čovjek je napisao da je u Zurichu i da dolazi treća kompanija u Niš) i to je meni bio trag da krenem rovariti. A kad znaš što tražiš lako nađeš potvrdu.

      3. Nitko od onih koji su mi pružili informaciju nisu rekli da je informacija tajna i da ju se ne treba objaviti. Čak štoviše pitao sam (kao i uvijek) može li se objaviti. Nikada nisam zlorabio povjerljivu informaciju i objavio je bez dozvole, tj. ako sam zamoljen da ju ne objavim.

      4. Ja nisam zaposlenik aerodroma Niš ili Republike Srbije i moj posao jest traženje i objava informacija.

      5. Ovo nema baš nikakve veze sa Tango 6. Ni na koji način!

      U svakom slučaju niti bih ikada naškodio aerodromu Niš, niti vjerujem da je moguće da jedna objava na jednom blogu može napraviti takvu štetu. Niti Swiss srfa po blogovima u Srbiji, niti je napisan članak na nekom mediji, već je objavljena neslužbena spoznaja na neslužbenom blogu, na neslužbeni način. Mogla je biti i pretpostavka, dezinformacija, slučajno pogođena informacija... kao što često i viđamo po ovom i drugim blogovima i forumima. Ako bi takve poluinformacije, dezinformacije, pretpostavke i neslužbene informacije po blogovima i forumima bile razlog za odgode ili prekid pregovora onda ni jedna jedina kompanija na ovom svijetu ne bi dovršila pregovore. Pa koliko puta su se objavljivali slične neslužbene informcije, zaključci i poluinformacije o Ryanairu, Wizzairu... Eto najnovija je Wizzair i Sarajevo gdje su jučer i prekjučer objavljene potpuno suprotne (oprečne) informacije. I što sad, jedna je točna (ili da su u finanlnim pregovorima, ili da su prekinuti pregovori), pa će to biti razlog Wizzairu da prekine razgovore sa Sarajevom.

      Da je informacija došla iz Niša (koji je pregovarač) onda bi odgoda imala smisla, no nije! I to svi znaju da nije. Onda stvarno ne vidim razloga da se diže halabuka iz svega toga.

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    6. Sorry Mr. Purger, how do you know that leaked information hasn't anything to with Tango six ?

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    7. Alen Šćuric PurgerNovember 16, 2016 at 3:48 PM

      Ne ona koju sam ja objavio. Ona nije došla od Tango 6, nisam imao nikakve veze niti kontakta sa ikim u Tango 6, niti je Tango 6 direktno ili indirektno sudjelovao u mojoj objavi na ovom blogu.

      Ja isključivo govorim o tome što sam ja napisao i koji su moji izvori.

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    8. Hej, Alene, slightly OT - potrazio sam te na Linkedin-u ali te nisam nasao. Kako mogu stupiti u kontakt sa tobom?

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    9. Alen Šćuric PurgerNovember 16, 2016 at 4:58 PM

      Zagreb_majorettes@yahoo.com

      Pošaljite mail, pa vam pošaljem broj telefona i faxa.

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    10. Ako je to istina onda je LX napravio jako veliku gresku posto iz Tog dela Srbije ima jako puno Gradanja Srbije pa su se ti letovi mogli dobro puniti sa O & D putnicima a mogli su imati i dosta Transfernih takodje .
      A zbog tako neceg otkazati liniju je vrlo smesno.
      INN-NS

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    11. Alen Šćuric PurgerNovember 16, 2016 at 7:02 PM

      Nitko nije rekao da će otkazati liniju, nego da će prolongirati (prebaciti na kasnije) objavu.

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    12. Pa kada si objavio juce i sve uprskao... ne shvatam zasto si to uradio

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    13. Alene, zar je potrebno napisati toliko teksta a izbeci da se kaze Izvinite za dezinformaciju?

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    14. Nije u pitanju dezinformacija. Rec jeste o Swissu i planiraju letove za Nis ali su odustali od objave danas koja jeste bila planirana.

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    15. A jel? Znaci ako vam sad kazem da ce se nesto objaviti sutra a to se ne desi to nije dezinformacija?

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    16. Odluka o otkazivanju objave je doneta jutros tako da nije mogao da dezinformise sinoc kada je informacija bila tacna. Necu ulaziti u razloge pomeranje objave letove ali Swiss jeste nezadovoljan sto je informacija procurela, makar zvanicno je to njihov razlog (a da li je to pravi razlog je druga prica).

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    17. Alen Šćuric PurgerNovember 17, 2016 at 12:04 AM

      Ma baš je to razlog, svašta!

      Pa i kad je Wizz dolazio u Niš ljudi su dan-dva prije pisali linije i većina je bila istinita. Jel Wizz otkazao pressicu Isto tako i za Ryanair(pa pisalo se točno koje linije i koliko frekvencija). Jel tada otkazana pressica?

      Eto jučer se pisalo o Sarajevu i Wizzu... Hoće li Wizz prekinuti pregovore radi toga? Na CAFU se piše o pregovorima Zadra za cjelogodišnje letove Ryanaira i 9 novih linija. Hoće li sada Ryanair prekinuti sve letove iz Zadra? Ili će Zadarski aerodrom otkazati najavu?

      Baš bi kompanije i zračne luke nešto otkazivale radi pisanja po blogovima.

      Pa da je to tako nikada ni jedna kompanija ne bi ništa objavila. U zadnjih 5-6 godina na ovom blogu sve se zna unaprijed, i njabolje čuvane tajne. Znalo se kada dolazi A330, kada počinju letovi za New York, za Air Serbijine letove za LED znalo se dva mjeseca unaprijed, znalo se da CTN uzima Fokkere, znalo se za planove Adrije i deal sa Nordicom. I ništa od toga nije otkazano.

      Znalo se i za Swissove letove za ZAG i druge gradove, pa nije otkazana objava.

      Dakle, to je glupost da je to razlog. Ili izgovor ili dezinformacija. Da se razumijemo i do mene je došlo da je to razlog, ali to je stvarno više nego smješno!

      I opet naglašavam. Ja nisam to prvi objavio nego Bojan Avramović koji je iz Zuricha napisao da dolazi treća kompanija (nije da se iz toga moralo previše zaključivati, zar ne?). Takve objave ne bi se trebale stavljati na face ako se ne želi iznjeti informacija. I tada sam ja išao rovati i izrovao. I to ne u Srbiji! I još tražio dozvolu da objavim. I dobio je.

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    18. What are they going to do now? Send Edelweiss instead? ZRH-INI-LAS!

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    19. Ajme, ne bi da je Niš New York, pretjerujete!

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    20. Don't Panic. It is announced in SWISS media release from yesterday:
      https://www.swiss.com/corporate/EN/media/newsroom/press-releases/Media-release-20161116

      Cheers!

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  16. So Tehran and Astana as new destinations for Air Serbia next year... Interesting choices of destinations

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    1. I am sure both will be as successful as Baku.

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    2. Except Air Serbia never actually announced Baku. It was AZAL :)

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    3. Upravo su Kanada i Srbija potpisale ugovor o uspostavljanju direktne vazdušne linije između dve zamlje i to na zahtev Kanadske vlade.Nadam se samo da nije AirTransat ili Rouge..

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    4. Upravo su Kanada i Srbija potpisale ugovor o uspostavljanju direktne vazdušne linije između dve zamlje i to na zahtev Kanadske vlade.Nadam se samo da nije AirTransat ili Rouge..

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    5. Министри, који су потписали Декларацију о намери у вези са Споразумом о ваздушном саобраћају, изразили су наду да ће Споразум ускоро бити закључен, до краја ове или у првој половини 2017. године.

      Well, one Canadian minister and Dačić signed "Declaration of intension about air traffic agreement", and they're hoping that agreement will be signed on the end of this or on the beginning of the next year.

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    6. Da to je istina.Nacrt sporazuma je napravljen i jutros predložen ali ga trebaju potpisati zvanično oba ministarstva saobraćaja.Ja se samo bojim da je to na zahtev Ruga ili AirTransata:(

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    7. Alen Šćuric PurgerNovember 16, 2016 at 3:49 PM

      Nemojte ljudi o tome pisati, da se ne odgodi potpisivanje :-)

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    8. Da to je istina.Nacrt sporazuma je napravljen i jutros predložen ali ga trebaju potpisati zvanično oba ministarstva saobraćaja.Ja se samo bojim da je to na zahtev Ruga ili AirTransata:(

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    9. There's nothing to sign - a bilateral agreement is already in place that allows for 2 frequencies for carriers from each country

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    10. Zašto Hot Lane ima potrebu sve pisati 2 puta, a admin to ne briše?

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    11. How about removing Skyservice, they are no longer flying? Some other updates while at it?

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    12. Someone on a.net said all non-StarAlliance carriers are being moved from T1 to T3 at YYZ, including EK A380. Apparently that means T3 does not have room for new airlines, so where will Air Serbia go? Unless they open infield terminal (not likely, except for refugees etc) there might not be plenty of space available. Oh and please don't ask why they shouldn't request to use T2 :)

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  17. Since the topic is related to JU I would like to use the occasion to describe 3 recent flights I had in the past 10 days. BEG-FRA (05 Nov - economy) / DUS-BEG (12 Nov - economy) / BEG-SVO (15 Nov - business)
    Beg – Fra ...check in quick and efficient, economy full 100% - business 1, departure on time, good perception on service onboard, purser on duty great, only negative cockpit announcement was made only to greet pax onboard but nothing about the flight itself
    Dus-Beg ... in transit so can’t comment on check-in, economy about 80-90 pax – business 1 (I was quite surprised by the good LF for a Saturday late evening flight!), departure on time. Catering good and tasty hot meal served. Made a service spot check about a wine refill by buzzing the call button but response was not prompt. Once FA came she promised a refill then her colleague showed up to inform and apologize that they are out of wine. Cockpit announcement good and excellent landing in Beg despite very strong wind. Interesting they dispatched the A320 instead of the 319 for this flight.
    Beg-Svo...check in good, lounge great with good wifi, economy about 100 pax – business 3. Slow and late boarding causing a 20 min delay at start despite the plane being in Belgrade at gate for several hours prior to our 17:00 departure. Waiting on paperwork to dispatch the flight caused the delay. No coat service. Service in business good and decent but nothing very special. Purser who was in charge was professional but she missed to have a personal touch to elevate the flying experience to something more memorable. There was nothing wrong and she was doing everything right but in some automated way. Very strong head wind slowed us even more so arrival in SVO late by 20-25 min. Cockpit info excellent and captain really went out of his way with ample communication both before and during the flight. Return flight to Beg I am afraid was quite empty as I didn’t see more than 25-30 pax waiting to board the return flight to Beg.
    Flight to Astana is fiction! ... there is no need to dream and fly to Astana before we can fly regularly year round to Kyiv and LED

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    1. Yes, Kiev.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiev

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  18. OT: BEG has a new rival, RIX airport. The YTD traffic is now 4,6 million!! If BT also launches TSE it will definitely steal the traffic and compete directly with JU. I think JU have to be very careful when launching this route.

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    1. Talking of Riga, airBaltic is about to have its first scheduled C-series flight, it will fly RIX-AMS-RIX.

      Maybe now they will reconsider returning to BEG, especially since JU doesn't fly year-round to LED.

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    2. I flew Tallin-Vienna recently with airBaltic. First time I was using them. You pay literally for everything, no service included whatsoever. Decent LF and very punctual. Boeing 737-500 metal on the flight.

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    3. airBaltic has been like that for around a decade now, I think from 2004 when they were invaded by Wizz Air and Ryanair.

      What I like about them is the decent amount of frequencies and destinations, especially around Russia and the Nordic region.

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    4. dusan988 - it´s a hybrid low-cost carrier such as vueling. I think this will be the future - paid services, free Wi-fi, slim seats, etc, etc.
      JU can perfectly apply this model and compete with W6 in BEG but also offer connections.

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    5. Air Baltic 735s had the worst airplane seats I ever sat on. I felt like I was on a wooden bench, which had a back rest at a very awkward angle. Couldn't wait for landing.

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  19. Does it really matter if Air Serbia or Air Astana will fly (seasonally?) in the grand scheme of things? What matters is CEO's vision for the next 5-10 years: very slow annual growth (~5% average), fleet expansion by only a couple of aircraft, and as a result absolutely no need for new terminal at BEG. That was the most important announcement since the start of JFK flights and no one noticed!

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    1. Jednostavna matematika: Kondić je rekao da će Er Srbija za 5 do 10 godina možda imati 25-26 aviona. Er Srbija računa Avolet kao deo svoje flote, znači flota sada ima 21 aviona. Er Srbija je 2015 prevezla 2,55 miliona putnika podeljeno sa 20 aviona (A330 je došao u 2016) daje 127 hiljada putnika godišnje po avionu. To je naravno gruba procena, jer zavisi od tipa, iskorišćenja; poslednji ATR došao u flotu tek negde u maju 2015 itd, ali je 127 hiljada samo približno. Znači ako Er Srbija bude imala 25-26 aviona, godišnji broj putnika će biti (25 ili 26) x 127=3,17 ili 3,3 miliona. Kad se pretpostavi da će LF nastaviti da raste prema 80%, da će 10 x A320NEO imati veći kapacitet od sadašnjih A319/320, onda se može reći da će Er Srbija za 5-10 godina imati oko 3,5 miliona putnika godišnje. To znači da bi broj putnika Er Srbije mogao u proseku da raste samo oko 3%-6% godišnje.
      Ako se pretpostavi da će udeo Er Srbije na aerodromu Beograd nastaviti da bude oko 50-55%, to znači da će Nikola Tesla za 5-10 godina imati najverovatnje ispod 7 miliona putnika godišnje. Kada se urade renoviranja i mala proširenja BEG će sigurno moći da opsluži taj broj putnika. Nema potrebe za prodajom ili koncesijom jer ove stvari mogu da se naprave bez spoljnog finansiranja.

      Ako je ova procena ispravna, Er Srbiji predstoji duži period malog rasta sa par novih interkontinentalnih destinacija i nešto više novih Evroazijskih I regionalnih destinacija, a Beograd ostaje bez novog terminala.

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  20. OT: Meanwhile in Canada (copy paste from RTS website):

    Министри, који су потписали Декларацију о намери у вези са Споразумом о ваздушном саобраћају, изразили су наду да ће Споразум ускоро бити закључен, до краја ове или у првој половини 2017. године.

    Well, one Canadian minister and Dačić signed "Declaration of intension about air traffic agreement", and they're hoping that agreement will be signed on the end of this or on the beginning of the next year.

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  21. Nadam se da ce se IKA pre uvesti nego TSE posto ima vise transfernih putnika.
    INN-NS

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  22. OT: Croatia airlines might not be selling LHR slots!

    http://www.jutarnji.hr/vijesti/hrvatska/croatia-airlines-i-ministarstvo-prometa-otvoreni-smo-za-razgovor-o-heathrowu/5272531/

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  23. I don,t know why many are do negative against flights from Beograd to Astana. Seasonally must work if price is competitive. Expo, no visa for Kazak for Serbia, Albania and Montenegro (sea), some business traffic, some novelty as tourist destination Astana in summer hot but dry and safe and flying to Almaty and visiting nearby Kirgizistan best mountain trekking views food people environment hidden secret discovered by foreign tourist last year's. Great potentials.

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    1. Kazakhstan passport holder are visa free for Serbia, Macedonia and Albania but not for Montenegro

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    2. On the other hand, non-EU citizens are to pay 5 euros when entering EU. All the countries above included.

      http://www.rts.rs/page/stories/sr/story/10/svet/2528372/ulaznica-za-sengen-kostace-pet-evra.html

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  24. Is there a country for which's citizens Serbia requires Visa???

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    1. United Kingdom and Republic of Ireland - in Europe. ;)

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    2. Serbia wants visa from UK and Ireland citizens and don't from Chinese and Kazakhs? :o

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    3. From an economical point of view it's better like that.

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    4. ...Japan & Singapour.

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    5. Actually Serbian citizens do not need a visa to enter either Singapore or Japan.

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    6. Serbian citizens are visa free for Russia and Belarus. This is cool!

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    7. And Zambia too.

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    8. We are talking about who can enter Serbia without visa, not the opposite :)

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  25. Ahh too bad it didn't work out yesterday with INI :(
    Was really looking forward hearing about future ZRH - INI flights :(

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  26. Swissair je zvanično objavio nove linije, između ostalog i do Niša.
    https://www.swiss.com/corporate/EN/media/newsroom/press-releases/Media-release-20161116

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  27. NO enough passengers for this line. This is political statement, in long term this line is not cost effective

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