Friday, October 6, 2017

Eurowings mulls Mostar, Podgorica and Brač


Lufthansa's fast-growing low cost subsidiary Eurowings is considering launching flights to Mostar, Podgorica and Brač. The airline has shortlisted the three cities among ten European destinations and has asked the public to vote for their favourite as part of its "You vote, we fly" campaign. The winning city will be included in the airline's 2018 summer season schedule. Everyone can take part and vote for their favourite until October 10. Following this round of voting, there will be three destinations left. The big finale with live voting will then be featured on Facebook on October 11. Oliver Wagner, Eurowings' CEO and Chief Commercial Officer, said, "Our customers are going to decide where we should fly to - no other airline has ever done this. "You vote, we fly" shows yet again how close we are to our customers". At the time of publication, Mostar is second with 29.1% of the public vote, followed by Brač in sixth place and Podgorica in ninth with 1.3% of the vote. 

Eurowings has expanded significantly across the former Yugoslavia this year. The airline has held talks with Mostar Airport concerning potential flights between Stuttgart and the Bosnian city. The Premier of the Herzegovina-Neretva Canton has already committed to subsidising the route. Mostar Airport, which has no scheduled year-round flights, has identified Germany as its main market due to its sizable Bosnian diaspora. Meanwhile, earlier this year, Eurowings commenced operations to Montenegro by introducing flights to Tivat. The carrier has previously said it is considering additional flights to the city but also to Podgorica, which it has not served in the past. The low cost airline has also held talks with Brač Airport and has made Croatia its focal point for expansion in the former Yugoslav market this year.

Despite its ongoing expansion in the region, Eurowings recently cancelled plans to launch flights from Dusseldorf to Sarajevo and from Munich to Skopje due to poor ticket sales. However, the airline will go ahead with its plans to introduce services between Dusseldorf and Zagreb on October 31, as well as Munich and Pristina on March 24 of next year. Lufthansa intends on ramping up Eurowings' growth through the purchase of new aircraft. The airline's Supervisory Board recently approved an investment of some one billion euros for the acquisition and leasing of up to 61 aircraft, including 41 Airbus A320s and twenty Bombardier Dash 8 models. The company said that the purchase of new aircraft would depend partly on ongoing negotiations to buy parts of Air Berlin, which is in a process of insolvency and in talks over the sale of its air transport business with Lufthansa and easyJet.

You can take part in the "You vote, we fly" campaign here and cast your vote for Eurowings' next destination.

138 comments:

  1. I think it is safe to say they will eventually introduce all three cities.

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    1. I think so too.

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    2. For sure. They will role those out next summer under some explanation how they were taken aback with all the interest from the public that they wanted to give something back to the community or some other PR nonsense.

      But I must admit this is a smart way to advertise your flights. Plus someone can actually win tickets.

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  2. Brac... lol

    Another seasonal route bringing tourists to get drunk and soak some sun.

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    1. It would be good news for Brac Airport at least. It's not as if they have loads of traffic.

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    2. Brac is pretty much sure already.

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    3. Anon 9:04, people there live on tourism. Mostly. Don't understand what's so funny. You get what comes along. You can't constantly dream of rich people coming there and spending a lot of money. I mean, they come, but the vast majority is not that rich.

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    4. I'd love to fly on EW from VIE to BWK. Last two years CSA AT7 charters only and you pay at least 400 EUR return. That's really nuts.

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    5. What is the point of OP's comment?
      Who else comes to the coast?

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    6. well dont expect EW to be much less expensive if they have no competition

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  3. This is fantastic news for Podgorica. I don't know what's happening but the airport has seen so many new airlines this year and there are already a few announcements for 2018.

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    1. Hmm is it growing demand or did they launch some incentives?

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    2. I think it is just growing demand. 1 million + passengers is secured for next year, it's just a matter of whether it can achieve it this year too.

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    3. Every major low cost airline is either already serving or considering flying to Podgorica. Excellent news for the airport and passengers.

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    4. True. Podgorica has been very impressive this and last year. I hope in 2018 it will surpass 1 million passengers.

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    5. Really?

      Major low cost airlines which does not have flights to TGD:

      no.2 easyJet
      no.3 Norwegian
      no.4 Pegasus
      no.5 Eurowings
      no.6 Vueling
      no.8 Transavia
      no.10 flyBe

      So you have
      no.1 Ryanair
      no.7 Wizz Air
      no.9 FlyDubai

      and those are "every major low cost"? Reality, reality!!!

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    6. He is right, FR and W6 are the biggest in Eastern Europe. So they are indeed major.

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    7. Alen Šćuric PurgerOctober 6, 2017 at 2:04 PM

      Air Serbia and Croatia are the best in exYU but that does not make them "major".

      And, no, easyJet, Eurowings and Pegasus are bigger than Wizz Air in Eastern Europe.

      In same time Eurowings, easyJet and Norwegian are much bigger in exYu than Ryanair.

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    8. Purger, W6 is the biggest LCC in CEE. Please use google. Just open the route map.

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    9. Alen Šćuric PurgerOctober 6, 2017 at 5:19 PM

      It is not. In some countries they are, but in some they are 3rd, in some even not that. But in total East Europe they are not.

      I hope that you do understand that Pegasus is Southeast carrier with much more planes than Wizz Air, for example.

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    10. Podgorica will have over a million passengers this year..

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    11. Alen Šćuric PurgerOctober 6, 2017 at 5:36 PM

      Not in CEE. In Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Slovakia and Slovenia they are 2nd, in Czech Republic 3rd, in Estonia, Turkey, Croatia, Austria not even 3rd. And that was 2016. Eurowings had huge expansion in 2017 to CEE, as you know.

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    12. Please google Wizz Air

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  4. An LCC with Dash 8s? Seriously?

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    1. If you look at their prices you will know how they are making money.

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    2. look at FlyBe...

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    3. Dash is horrible even with legacy carriers...but for short routes probably would be fine.

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    4. The Dash is a heritage of Air Berlin subsidiary LGW. It is needed to take over slots and the AOC. Thereafter it will gradually be replaced with A320 the same like with EW CR9.

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    5. Alen Šćuric PurgerOctober 6, 2017 at 10:16 AM

      LCC that have Q400 in their fleet:

      flybe (59)
      WestJet (28)
      SpaceJet (15)
      Air Baltic (12)

      Some 5-6 LCC have ATR in their fleet.

      Not so common practice, but still there are examples.

      But I think those Q400 will fly for CityLine, not for Eurowings.

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    6. No Purger, they will fly for EW

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    7. Alen Šćuric PurgerOctober 6, 2017 at 5:38 PM

      I saw information that LH will take those Q400, but did not find that those would be for Eurowings. If so it would be rear practice in Europe. Strange especially that they remove 100-seater from their fleet.

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  5. Apparently they will launch some new routes to Pula and Rijeka next year too.

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    1. Hm...MUC is cancelled to PUY and HAJ to RJK... that's all new for now...

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    2. Why were these cancelled?!?!

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    3. Definitely toooo big aircraft (A320) from MUC to PUY.

      Don't know for HAJ to RJK, maybe they will put that on sale later, we will see

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    4. MUC-PUY was rather half empty (I guess the bavarians take their cars to Istra and A320 way too big)

      shame, because i enjoyed that flight so much

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    5. Me too. I used for a weekend trip from Friday till Sunday. Next year only Lufthansa! I wonder why they don't try to cut 2/3 frequencies to start once a week

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    6. In HR it's all about SPU and DBV!

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  6. Trapani in the lead.

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    1. Yay! I voted for Trapani.

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    2. I had to google to see where the city is.

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    3. beautiful Sicily (basically an FR airport)

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    4. The gateway for Western Sicily. Beautiful landscape, excellent food, very kind people.

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    5. But they already have quite a few flights and are a Ryanair base, so it would be nicer to see them at some airport like Brac and Mostar who have almost no flights.

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  7. Still baffled they couldn't get decent sales for Sarajevo and Skopje flights.

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    1. They completely overestimated the ex-Yu market and didn't realize how seasonal and poor it is.

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    2. starting SKP in winter was probably not the wisest decision.

      On the other hand they are adding so many new intra-german routes (ex Air Berlin flights) so that SJJ and SKP in the end got sacked

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    3. No it didn´t get sacked because of the intra-German market. They will keep it as it is- the will take over the AB flights. So why would they expand beyond what AB and EW already flew and fly. The market SJJ and SKP is pretty poor and unlike wizz, EW has to pay German wages

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    4. e bas su bogati u OMO i PRN nema sta.

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    5. Unfortunately it kills off any chance of seeing Lufthansa in Skopje.

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    6. The funny thing was how Eurowings made such a big deal about Skopje. They even made a big promo event in SKP just a month ago and a week later they cancelled the route. Amateurs.

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    7. its not amateurs. just shows how much more important other routes are

      EW starts 4x daily MUC-TXL;CGN and DUS

      their 2 weekly SKP flights are nothing ....

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    8. If SKP and SJJ failed, I am confident they will succeed with INI. It is having the highest percentage growth in ex-Yu.

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    9. Give it a rest. It is having the highest growth because it had no traffic before that. Eurowings already flies to Sarajevo. Eurowings held talks with INI months ago and in the end didn't include any routes to there.

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    10. Oh, I didn't know that. Thanks for the info. Maybe because LX already fly and they risk losing seats. I still hope they renegotiate.

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    11. besides that, it would be hard to get free slots at INI- traffic is so congested- i hear even Delta is struggling to get a free slot for their flight from LAX to INI

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    12. Anon 12:42 I don't get your point. Why are you making fun of INI? Do you think it doesn't have potential?

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    13. anon 1:39:

      news:
      QR is hiring in Nis
      INI troll: QR will start flights from INI

      news:
      Adria considers expanding fleet:
      INI troll: Adria should fly from LJU to IST via INI

      news:
      Airport Nis handles 200 000 pax in 6 months
      INI troll: INI will reach 2 mio max in 2 years

      THAT is why i'm making fun of INI

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    14. It is your personal to call what you do no t like as troll. Anyway, you win - INI has no future.

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  8. I voted for Mostar so they can have some flights.

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    1. Mostar Airport talked up Eurowings so much and said how they will launch flights for sure this winter and again nothing. Now we have to vote for them to start flights!

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  9. Comeon Titograd :D

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  10. Great news for Mostar, Podgorica and Brač. Will be nice seeing somethinh bigger than the Embraer landing in Brač.

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    1. That is if they actually launch these routes. Doesn't seem any of them are in the lead.

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    2. Well Mostar has grown from 29,1 to 29,3 since this morning :-D

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    3. @9.21 see the first comment in this post. They will 99,9% launch all of these routes next year or at least the majority.

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    4. It keeps growing, 29,6% now.

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    5. It was actually number 1. yesterday but the Italian city overtook it during the night.

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  11. LJU did say that they were talking with Eurowings and that they should launch flights this year and here we are it's October and nothing. Well done Fraport. Another win under your belt.

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    1. The only success they had in the past 3 years is bring Transavia. That is all.

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    2. They have obviously talked to many airports in ex-Yu. It is the problem with the airports and Balkan mentality. Just because they held talks doesn't mean they will launch flights. I remember Nis Airport also announcing the same after they held some discussions with Eurowings and nothing has obviously happened.

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    3. the only airport they don't seem to have talked to is Banja Luka.

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  12. I find really interesting their woeful presence in Belgrade. Something like a month worth of flights during the summer from Cologne.

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    1. The issue there might be that BEG has flights to 11 cities in Germany...

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    2. The Wizz effect

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    3. Like someone said the market is already well covered by Air Serbia, Wizz Air and Lufthansa.

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    4. JU flies to Berlin, Dusseldorf, Frankfurt, Hamburg and Stuttgart. Lufthansa flies to Frankfurt and Munich, and Wizz flies to Dortmund, Hannover, Karlsruhe, Hannover, Memmingen and Nuremberg.

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    5. No wonder why LH are sending smaller planes to BEG lately. The German market is saturated, 11 cities is just crazy!

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  13. The good thing is that they offer connecting flights through Lufthansa.

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    1. True. EW offers connecting flights to all LH Group member airlines.

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  14. It's really strange. They do not even put an OD which they would be flying. So if any of these wins, from WHERE would it be flown? That is a strong indication for me that all is done already, they will just announce these flights. Some airports in Germany are slot constrained and they would have to have those flights registered already.

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    1. From their base in CGN.

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    2. from their base in CGN? They have bases in HAM, TXL, HAJ, DUS, CGN, STR, MUC, VIE, PMI. They could start the Podgorica flights from Vienna as well?!

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    3. Alen Šćuric PurgerOctober 6, 2017 at 10:22 AM

      ...and Salzburg.

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    4. Where is problem man? I said the winner of this competition will have direct flight from CGN during the S18.

      Relax

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    5. ok so you say its a done deal?

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    6. CGN would be bad choice for OMO, taken in consideration it's connectivity with places where the majority of customers for OMO are.

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  15. They should launch flights to Tuzla and end the Wizz monopoly!

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    1. You think Wizz would ever allow that? They can blackmail Tuzla whichever way they want since they bring them half a million passengers per year. That's why an airport should never go to bed with one airline.

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    2. +1 I think INI went down the right path on that one.

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  16. As they keep growing their fleet, we will definitely see more of them in ex-Yu. There are a lot of untapped opportunities in the region.

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  17. Go Mostar!!! I have voted ... we desperatelly need those flight because of diaspora

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    1. YES -they will launch BERLIN-OMO.

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    2. Wasn't the plan for them to start flights from Stuttgart to Mostar?

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    3. I think when EW starts flying from one german city they will see the demand and Iam sure they will open more flights to other destinations

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  18. What I have always found interesting is how limited Lufthansa is in the region. Only Croatia and Serbia with 1 route to Sarajevo too.

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    1. It´s simple, small countries and low willingness to pay.

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    2. Alen Šćuric PurgerOctober 6, 2017 at 10:34 AM

      But in Croatia they have more than 8 flights per day in summer and 4-5 flights per day in winter on

      ZAG-FRA
      ZAG-MUC
      SPU-FRA*
      SPU-MUC
      DBV-FRA*
      DBV-MUC*
      PUY-FRA*
      PUY-MUC*
      ZAD-MUC*
      *seasonal

      But whan you speak about Lufthansa it is not just main brand but also companies that are in Lufthansa group and those are:

      Austrian
      Eurowings
      Swiss
      Edelweiss
      Brussels

      and those have number of flights to region. You must know that they have those different brands (and products) to satisfied specific needs of specific markets.

      In same time they have code-share on:
      - Adria flights from Ljubljana, Priština and Tirana

      - Croatia flights from Zagreb, Pula, Rijeka, Zadar, Split and Dubrovnik

      - Montenegro flights from Podgorica

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    3. I think he was speaking about LH brand here, not its subsidiaries. Even ZAG is losing LH mainline this winter.

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    4. In what sense "losing"? Elaborate, please.

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    5. ZAG will no longer be operated by LH mainline but by its subsidiaries, CityLine or whatever they are called.

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    6. It's normal for ZAG to be downgraded, it just has way many seats to sell to in general. Not to mention the arrival of EK and QR.

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    7. Yes but all those seats on sale should be filled by all those tourists who are continuously mentioned on here.

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    8. Alen Šćuric PurgerOctober 6, 2017 at 12:50 PM

      ZAG is not loosing nothing. LH flies to ZAG same amount of frequencies like last winter. During summer they have extra frequency because of demand (also same in 2016 summer).

      So there will be 3 flights per day to MUC and FRA + 5 per day on OU code-share = 8 flights per day

      In same time you will have 6 flights per day by Lufthansa group(Austrian, Swiss, Eurowings) and 6 flights per day to LH group hubs on code-share to LH by Croatia Airlines

      That is all together 20 flights per day to LH group hubs and bases by LH group and OU code-share.

      You can not talk about LH brand separately for more than 10 years now. LH group is reality just like Air France-KLM one company, especially in legacy part of group. When you buy ticket on Lufthansa page you will buy it via MUC, FRA, VIE, ZRH, BRU or even Eurowings and you will not know with which of the brand you gonna fly and via which of the hubs till you have to choose on one option. Usually you fly via one hub one way and totally different one back (for example ZAG-FRA-MAD-VIE-ZAG). It is one system, one company with several local brands.

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    9. Alene, čitaj šta je napisano, Zagreb gubi LH Mainline što je istina imajući u vidu da letove obavlja Cityline sa svojim regionalnim avionima... sem ako u međuvremenu LH nije nabavila neke regionalne za svoj mainline.

      Može da se priča odvojeno zato što svaki brend ima svoju ulogu, da je nema ne bi ih ni pravili. Dakle ZAG nije dovoljno isplativ da bi leteo mainline LH tako da su ga prebacili na ćerku firmu koja ima niže troškove.

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    10. 'When you buy ticket on Lufthansa page you will buy it via MUC, FRA, VIE, ZRH, BRU or even Eurowings and you will not know with which of the brand you gonna fly and via which of the hubs till you have to choose on one option'

      You do know which brand you are going to fly. If it's a flight via MUC or FRA then it's mainline. If it's VIE then it's Austrian Airlines, if it's DUS or STR then it's most likely EW, if it's ZRH then it's LX.

      As mentioned above, each brand has its own role and purpose.

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    11. Alen Šćuric PurgerOctober 6, 2017 at 2:11 PM

      U današnje vrijeme "Mainline" je toliko relavantna stvar. KLM vrlo malo leti po Europi sa "Mainline" i većinu toga obavi CityHopper. Za Zagreb obično ljeti lete "Mainline", zimi regionalne kompanije koje imaju manje avione. Kao i za dobar dio odredišta diljem Europe. To je racionalizacija poslovanja. Konačno te regionalne kompanije samo su svar organizacije, troškovne strukture i racionalizacije (manje kompanije to organizacijski ne mogu podnijeti, veće tako racionaliziraju operacije), a de facto, pa i de iure, su dio matične kompanije. Potpuno nebitna činjenica.

      Da je Zagreb nebitan za LH grupu ne bi imala sama 14 dnevnih letova iz njega, te 20 sa Croatijinim code-share. Bilo tko tko se bavi zrakoplovstvo vidi da je Hrvatska (i Zagreb) zona visokog interesa Lufthanse.

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    12. In my opinion Serbia and Croatia rely a lot on Germany and forget that there are other potential countries too especially UK, Spain, Poland and Romania given their sizes. Fact is Germany is the richest country in Europe thus inevitable.

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    13. Purgeru, ne insistiraj kada nisi u pravu, covek je rekao da LH nema vise mainline letove za ZAG sto je istina.

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    14. Не дај боже да је Београд изгубио mainline. Већ би наредног дана изашао чланак у Т6 са целом анализом.

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  19. I was hoping they would station a plane in ZAG

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    1. They will probably start focusing on Zagreb after they are done with the coast.

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  20. Great news. We will be seeing more and more of them in Croatia.

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    1. In all of ex-Yu, not just Croatia.

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  21. Eurowings is not low cost at all. Their fares are quite high when compared to Ryanair or Wizz.

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    1. Their fares are comparable to Vueling and Transavia.

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    2. There is a difference between low cost and low fare.

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    3. Alen Šćuric PurgerOctober 6, 2017 at 12:52 PM

      And between low cost and ultra low cost

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    4. Or rather low cost and low cost wannabes.

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    5. Alen Šćuric PurgerOctober 6, 2017 at 2:12 PM

      :-)

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  22. It would be nice to see Eurowings with more routes from Vienna to the region. Currently only Austrian and a the national carriers fly to VIE and in most cases they have a duopoly with expensive fares.

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    1. Why would Eurowings create more competition for an airline within its own group?

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    2. Austrian press was spreading a rumor that OS would in midterm be incorporated into EW, and lose the premium brand-Austrians of course don't like it... don't know what came out of it.
      what is sure is that EW will indeed expand from VIE- if it will expand to the region? -last anons question is legit

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    3. Given the fact that OS added five A320s I doubt they are going to be replaced by Eurowings.

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  23. Trapani now firmly ahead of Mostar. But OMO will probably be among top 3 so it will go into the next round.

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  24. Good luck to all three cities but regardless of the voting we will see EW at all three airports next year :)

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  25. Very intresting, I voted Mostar, that city deserves it to be connected

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  26. TGD is definitely gonna be the winner in 2018. So many airlines and routes, so EW might consider more German connections. Bravo TGD! Lets beat LJU and SKP!

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    1. Yeeees, it's finally their time to shine.

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    2. How exactly? SKP already has over 1.7-18 mill passengers, don't be pathetic

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  27. Honestly I only see them flying Germans on cheap charters once a week to Brac, the rest has nothing to offer. Mostar has the old bridge which you can enjoy for 1-2 hours and that's it, the rest of the city offers nothing. Maybe they could advertise Mostar as "come and see how fascism divided a city in half in the middle of Europe, modern history lesson". As for Podgorica, there is absolutely nothing that city offers to a tourist other than its proximity to the Adriatic coast, the city itself is a godforsaken hole.

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