Lufthansa's fast-growing low cost subsidiary Eurowings is considering launching flights to Mostar, Podgorica and Brač. The airline has shortlisted the three cities among ten European destinations and has asked the public to vote for their favourite as part of its "You vote, we fly" campaign. The winning city will be included in the airline's 2018 summer season schedule. Everyone can take part and vote for their favourite until October 10. Following this round of voting, there will be three destinations left. The big finale with live voting will then be featured on Facebook on October 11. Oliver Wagner, Eurowings' CEO and Chief Commercial Officer, said, "Our customers are going to decide where we should fly to - no other airline has ever done this. "You vote, we fly" shows yet again how close we are to our customers". At the time of publication, Mostar is second with 29.1% of the public vote, followed by Brač in sixth place and Podgorica in ninth with 1.3% of the vote.
Eurowings has expanded significantly across the former Yugoslavia this year. The airline has held talks with Mostar Airport concerning potential flights between Stuttgart and the Bosnian city. The Premier of the Herzegovina-Neretva Canton has already committed to subsidising the route. Mostar Airport, which has no scheduled year-round flights, has identified Germany as its main market due to its sizable Bosnian diaspora. Meanwhile, earlier this year, Eurowings commenced operations to Montenegro by introducing flights to Tivat. The carrier has previously said it is considering additional flights to the city but also to Podgorica, which it has not served in the past. The low cost airline has also held talks with Brač Airport and has made Croatia its focal point for expansion in the former Yugoslav market this year.
You can take part in the "You vote, we fly" campaign here and cast your vote for Eurowings' next destination.
I think it is safe to say they will eventually introduce all three cities.
ReplyDeleteI think so too.
DeleteFor sure. They will role those out next summer under some explanation how they were taken aback with all the interest from the public that they wanted to give something back to the community or some other PR nonsense.
DeleteBut I must admit this is a smart way to advertise your flights. Plus someone can actually win tickets.
Brac... lol
ReplyDeleteAnother seasonal route bringing tourists to get drunk and soak some sun.
It would be good news for Brac Airport at least. It's not as if they have loads of traffic.
DeleteBrac is pretty much sure already.
DeleteAnon 9:04, people there live on tourism. Mostly. Don't understand what's so funny. You get what comes along. You can't constantly dream of rich people coming there and spending a lot of money. I mean, they come, but the vast majority is not that rich.
DeleteI'd love to fly on EW from VIE to BWK. Last two years CSA AT7 charters only and you pay at least 400 EUR return. That's really nuts.
DeleteWhat is the point of OP's comment?
DeleteWho else comes to the coast?
well dont expect EW to be much less expensive if they have no competition
DeleteThis is fantastic news for Podgorica. I don't know what's happening but the airport has seen so many new airlines this year and there are already a few announcements for 2018.
ReplyDeleteHmm is it growing demand or did they launch some incentives?
DeleteI think it is just growing demand. 1 million + passengers is secured for next year, it's just a matter of whether it can achieve it this year too.
DeleteEvery major low cost airline is either already serving or considering flying to Podgorica. Excellent news for the airport and passengers.
DeleteTrue. Podgorica has been very impressive this and last year. I hope in 2018 it will surpass 1 million passengers.
DeleteReally?
DeleteMajor low cost airlines which does not have flights to TGD:
no.2 easyJet
no.3 Norwegian
no.4 Pegasus
no.5 Eurowings
no.6 Vueling
no.8 Transavia
no.10 flyBe
So you have
no.1 Ryanair
no.7 Wizz Air
no.9 FlyDubai
and those are "every major low cost"? Reality, reality!!!
He is right, FR and W6 are the biggest in Eastern Europe. So they are indeed major.
DeleteAir Serbia and Croatia are the best in exYU but that does not make them "major".
DeleteAnd, no, easyJet, Eurowings and Pegasus are bigger than Wizz Air in Eastern Europe.
In same time Eurowings, easyJet and Norwegian are much bigger in exYu than Ryanair.
Purger, W6 is the biggest LCC in CEE. Please use google. Just open the route map.
DeleteIt is not. In some countries they are, but in some they are 3rd, in some even not that. But in total East Europe they are not.
DeleteI hope that you do understand that Pegasus is Southeast carrier with much more planes than Wizz Air, for example.
Podgorica will have over a million passengers this year..
DeleteNot in CEE. In Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Slovakia and Slovenia they are 2nd, in Czech Republic 3rd, in Estonia, Turkey, Croatia, Austria not even 3rd. And that was 2016. Eurowings had huge expansion in 2017 to CEE, as you know.
DeletePlease google Wizz Air
DeleteAn LCC with Dash 8s? Seriously?
ReplyDeleteIf you look at their prices you will know how they are making money.
Deletelook at FlyBe...
DeleteDash is horrible even with legacy carriers...but for short routes probably would be fine.
DeleteThe Dash is a heritage of Air Berlin subsidiary LGW. It is needed to take over slots and the AOC. Thereafter it will gradually be replaced with A320 the same like with EW CR9.
DeleteLCC that have Q400 in their fleet:
Deleteflybe (59)
WestJet (28)
SpaceJet (15)
Air Baltic (12)
Some 5-6 LCC have ATR in their fleet.
Not so common practice, but still there are examples.
But I think those Q400 will fly for CityLine, not for Eurowings.
No Purger, they will fly for EW
DeleteI saw information that LH will take those Q400, but did not find that those would be for Eurowings. If so it would be rear practice in Europe. Strange especially that they remove 100-seater from their fleet.
DeleteApparently they will launch some new routes to Pula and Rijeka next year too.
ReplyDeleteHm...MUC is cancelled to PUY and HAJ to RJK... that's all new for now...
DeleteWhy were these cancelled?!?!
DeleteDefinitely toooo big aircraft (A320) from MUC to PUY.
DeleteDon't know for HAJ to RJK, maybe they will put that on sale later, we will see
MUC-PUY was rather half empty (I guess the bavarians take their cars to Istra and A320 way too big)
Deleteshame, because i enjoyed that flight so much
Me too. I used for a weekend trip from Friday till Sunday. Next year only Lufthansa! I wonder why they don't try to cut 2/3 frequencies to start once a week
DeleteIn HR it's all about SPU and DBV!
DeleteTrapani in the lead.
ReplyDeleteYay! I voted for Trapani.
DeleteI had to google to see where the city is.
Deletebeautiful Sicily (basically an FR airport)
DeleteThe gateway for Western Sicily. Beautiful landscape, excellent food, very kind people.
DeleteBut they already have quite a few flights and are a Ryanair base, so it would be nicer to see them at some airport like Brac and Mostar who have almost no flights.
DeleteStill baffled they couldn't get decent sales for Sarajevo and Skopje flights.
ReplyDeleteThey completely overestimated the ex-Yu market and didn't realize how seasonal and poor it is.
Deletestarting SKP in winter was probably not the wisest decision.
DeleteOn the other hand they are adding so many new intra-german routes (ex Air Berlin flights) so that SJJ and SKP in the end got sacked
No it didn´t get sacked because of the intra-German market. They will keep it as it is- the will take over the AB flights. So why would they expand beyond what AB and EW already flew and fly. The market SJJ and SKP is pretty poor and unlike wizz, EW has to pay German wages
Deletee bas su bogati u OMO i PRN nema sta.
DeleteUnfortunately it kills off any chance of seeing Lufthansa in Skopje.
DeleteThe funny thing was how Eurowings made such a big deal about Skopje. They even made a big promo event in SKP just a month ago and a week later they cancelled the route. Amateurs.
Deleteits not amateurs. just shows how much more important other routes are
DeleteEW starts 4x daily MUC-TXL;CGN and DUS
their 2 weekly SKP flights are nothing ....
If SKP and SJJ failed, I am confident they will succeed with INI. It is having the highest percentage growth in ex-Yu.
DeleteGive it a rest. It is having the highest growth because it had no traffic before that. Eurowings already flies to Sarajevo. Eurowings held talks with INI months ago and in the end didn't include any routes to there.
DeleteOh, I didn't know that. Thanks for the info. Maybe because LX already fly and they risk losing seats. I still hope they renegotiate.
Deletebesides that, it would be hard to get free slots at INI- traffic is so congested- i hear even Delta is struggling to get a free slot for their flight from LAX to INI
DeleteAnon 12:42 I don't get your point. Why are you making fun of INI? Do you think it doesn't have potential?
Deleteanon 1:39:
Deletenews:
QR is hiring in Nis
INI troll: QR will start flights from INI
news:
Adria considers expanding fleet:
INI troll: Adria should fly from LJU to IST via INI
news:
Airport Nis handles 200 000 pax in 6 months
INI troll: INI will reach 2 mio max in 2 years
THAT is why i'm making fun of INI
It is your personal to call what you do no t like as troll. Anyway, you win - INI has no future.
DeleteGO Mostar!
ReplyDeleteI voted for Mostar so they can have some flights.
ReplyDeleteMostar Airport talked up Eurowings so much and said how they will launch flights for sure this winter and again nothing. Now we have to vote for them to start flights!
DeleteComeon Titograd :D
ReplyDeleteGreat news for Mostar, Podgorica and Brač. Will be nice seeing somethinh bigger than the Embraer landing in Brač.
ReplyDeleteThat is if they actually launch these routes. Doesn't seem any of them are in the lead.
DeleteWell Mostar has grown from 29,1 to 29,3 since this morning :-D
Delete@9.21 see the first comment in this post. They will 99,9% launch all of these routes next year or at least the majority.
DeleteHope so :)
DeleteIt keeps growing, 29,6% now.
DeleteIt was actually number 1. yesterday but the Italian city overtook it during the night.
DeleteLJU did say that they were talking with Eurowings and that they should launch flights this year and here we are it's October and nothing. Well done Fraport. Another win under your belt.
ReplyDeleteThe only success they had in the past 3 years is bring Transavia. That is all.
DeleteThey have obviously talked to many airports in ex-Yu. It is the problem with the airports and Balkan mentality. Just because they held talks doesn't mean they will launch flights. I remember Nis Airport also announcing the same after they held some discussions with Eurowings and nothing has obviously happened.
Deletethe only airport they don't seem to have talked to is Banja Luka.
DeleteI find really interesting their woeful presence in Belgrade. Something like a month worth of flights during the summer from Cologne.
ReplyDeleteThe issue there might be that BEG has flights to 11 cities in Germany...
DeleteThe Wizz effect
DeleteLike someone said the market is already well covered by Air Serbia, Wizz Air and Lufthansa.
DeleteJU flies to Berlin, Dusseldorf, Frankfurt, Hamburg and Stuttgart. Lufthansa flies to Frankfurt and Munich, and Wizz flies to Dortmund, Hannover, Karlsruhe, Hannover, Memmingen and Nuremberg.
DeleteNo wonder why LH are sending smaller planes to BEG lately. The German market is saturated, 11 cities is just crazy!
DeleteThe good thing is that they offer connecting flights through Lufthansa.
ReplyDeleteTrue. EW offers connecting flights to all LH Group member airlines.
DeleteIt's really strange. They do not even put an OD which they would be flying. So if any of these wins, from WHERE would it be flown? That is a strong indication for me that all is done already, they will just announce these flights. Some airports in Germany are slot constrained and they would have to have those flights registered already.
ReplyDelete+1
DeleteFrom their base in CGN.
Deletefrom their base in CGN? They have bases in HAM, TXL, HAJ, DUS, CGN, STR, MUC, VIE, PMI. They could start the Podgorica flights from Vienna as well?!
Delete...and Salzburg.
DeleteWhere is problem man? I said the winner of this competition will have direct flight from CGN during the S18.
DeleteRelax
ok so you say its a done deal?
DeleteCGN would be bad choice for OMO, taken in consideration it's connectivity with places where the majority of customers for OMO are.
DeleteThey should launch flights to Tuzla and end the Wizz monopoly!
ReplyDeleteYou think Wizz would ever allow that? They can blackmail Tuzla whichever way they want since they bring them half a million passengers per year. That's why an airport should never go to bed with one airline.
Delete+1 I think INI went down the right path on that one.
DeleteAs they keep growing their fleet, we will definitely see more of them in ex-Yu. There are a lot of untapped opportunities in the region.
ReplyDeleteGo Mostar!!! I have voted ... we desperatelly need those flight because of diaspora
ReplyDeleteYES -they will launch BERLIN-OMO.
DeleteWasn't the plan for them to start flights from Stuttgart to Mostar?
DeleteI think when EW starts flying from one german city they will see the demand and Iam sure they will open more flights to other destinations
DeleteWhat I have always found interesting is how limited Lufthansa is in the region. Only Croatia and Serbia with 1 route to Sarajevo too.
ReplyDeleteIt´s simple, small countries and low willingness to pay.
DeleteBut in Croatia they have more than 8 flights per day in summer and 4-5 flights per day in winter on
DeleteZAG-FRA
ZAG-MUC
SPU-FRA*
SPU-MUC
DBV-FRA*
DBV-MUC*
PUY-FRA*
PUY-MUC*
ZAD-MUC*
*seasonal
But whan you speak about Lufthansa it is not just main brand but also companies that are in Lufthansa group and those are:
Austrian
Eurowings
Swiss
Edelweiss
Brussels
and those have number of flights to region. You must know that they have those different brands (and products) to satisfied specific needs of specific markets.
In same time they have code-share on:
- Adria flights from Ljubljana, Priština and Tirana
- Croatia flights from Zagreb, Pula, Rijeka, Zadar, Split and Dubrovnik
- Montenegro flights from Podgorica
I think he was speaking about LH brand here, not its subsidiaries. Even ZAG is losing LH mainline this winter.
DeleteIn what sense "losing"? Elaborate, please.
DeleteZAG will no longer be operated by LH mainline but by its subsidiaries, CityLine or whatever they are called.
DeleteIt's normal for ZAG to be downgraded, it just has way many seats to sell to in general. Not to mention the arrival of EK and QR.
DeleteYes but all those seats on sale should be filled by all those tourists who are continuously mentioned on here.
DeleteZAG is not loosing nothing. LH flies to ZAG same amount of frequencies like last winter. During summer they have extra frequency because of demand (also same in 2016 summer).
DeleteSo there will be 3 flights per day to MUC and FRA + 5 per day on OU code-share = 8 flights per day
In same time you will have 6 flights per day by Lufthansa group(Austrian, Swiss, Eurowings) and 6 flights per day to LH group hubs on code-share to LH by Croatia Airlines
That is all together 20 flights per day to LH group hubs and bases by LH group and OU code-share.
You can not talk about LH brand separately for more than 10 years now. LH group is reality just like Air France-KLM one company, especially in legacy part of group. When you buy ticket on Lufthansa page you will buy it via MUC, FRA, VIE, ZRH, BRU or even Eurowings and you will not know with which of the brand you gonna fly and via which of the hubs till you have to choose on one option. Usually you fly via one hub one way and totally different one back (for example ZAG-FRA-MAD-VIE-ZAG). It is one system, one company with several local brands.
Alene, čitaj šta je napisano, Zagreb gubi LH Mainline što je istina imajući u vidu da letove obavlja Cityline sa svojim regionalnim avionima... sem ako u međuvremenu LH nije nabavila neke regionalne za svoj mainline.
DeleteMože da se priča odvojeno zato što svaki brend ima svoju ulogu, da je nema ne bi ih ni pravili. Dakle ZAG nije dovoljno isplativ da bi leteo mainline LH tako da su ga prebacili na ćerku firmu koja ima niže troškove.
'When you buy ticket on Lufthansa page you will buy it via MUC, FRA, VIE, ZRH, BRU or even Eurowings and you will not know with which of the brand you gonna fly and via which of the hubs till you have to choose on one option'
DeleteYou do know which brand you are going to fly. If it's a flight via MUC or FRA then it's mainline. If it's VIE then it's Austrian Airlines, if it's DUS or STR then it's most likely EW, if it's ZRH then it's LX.
As mentioned above, each brand has its own role and purpose.
U današnje vrijeme "Mainline" je toliko relavantna stvar. KLM vrlo malo leti po Europi sa "Mainline" i većinu toga obavi CityHopper. Za Zagreb obično ljeti lete "Mainline", zimi regionalne kompanije koje imaju manje avione. Kao i za dobar dio odredišta diljem Europe. To je racionalizacija poslovanja. Konačno te regionalne kompanije samo su svar organizacije, troškovne strukture i racionalizacije (manje kompanije to organizacijski ne mogu podnijeti, veće tako racionaliziraju operacije), a de facto, pa i de iure, su dio matične kompanije. Potpuno nebitna činjenica.
DeleteDa je Zagreb nebitan za LH grupu ne bi imala sama 14 dnevnih letova iz njega, te 20 sa Croatijinim code-share. Bilo tko tko se bavi zrakoplovstvo vidi da je Hrvatska (i Zagreb) zona visokog interesa Lufthanse.
In my opinion Serbia and Croatia rely a lot on Germany and forget that there are other potential countries too especially UK, Spain, Poland and Romania given their sizes. Fact is Germany is the richest country in Europe thus inevitable.
DeletePurgeru, ne insistiraj kada nisi u pravu, covek je rekao da LH nema vise mainline letove za ZAG sto je istina.
DeleteНе дај боже да је Београд изгубио mainline. Већ би наредног дана изашао чланак у Т6 са целом анализом.
DeleteGood news :)
ReplyDeleteI was hoping they would station a plane in ZAG
ReplyDeleteThey will probably start focusing on Zagreb after they are done with the coast.
DeleteGreat news. We will be seeing more and more of them in Croatia.
ReplyDeleteIn all of ex-Yu, not just Croatia.
DeleteEurowings is not low cost at all. Their fares are quite high when compared to Ryanair or Wizz.
ReplyDeleteTheir fares are comparable to Vueling and Transavia.
DeleteThere is a difference between low cost and low fare.
DeleteAnd between low cost and ultra low cost
DeleteOr rather low cost and low cost wannabes.
Delete:-)
DeleteIt would be nice to see Eurowings with more routes from Vienna to the region. Currently only Austrian and a the national carriers fly to VIE and in most cases they have a duopoly with expensive fares.
ReplyDeleteWhy would Eurowings create more competition for an airline within its own group?
DeleteAustrian press was spreading a rumor that OS would in midterm be incorporated into EW, and lose the premium brand-Austrians of course don't like it... don't know what came out of it.
Deletewhat is sure is that EW will indeed expand from VIE- if it will expand to the region? -last anons question is legit
Given the fact that OS added five A320s I doubt they are going to be replaced by Eurowings.
DeleteTrapani now firmly ahead of Mostar. But OMO will probably be among top 3 so it will go into the next round.
ReplyDeleteGood luck to all three cities but regardless of the voting we will see EW at all three airports next year :)
ReplyDeleteVery intresting, I voted Mostar, that city deserves it to be connected
ReplyDeleteWhy do you think it's like that?
DeleteTGD is definitely gonna be the winner in 2018. So many airlines and routes, so EW might consider more German connections. Bravo TGD! Lets beat LJU and SKP!
ReplyDeleteYeeees, it's finally their time to shine.
DeleteHow exactly? SKP already has over 1.7-18 mill passengers, don't be pathetic
DeleteI’d love to see EW in OMO!!
ReplyDeleteHonestly I only see them flying Germans on cheap charters once a week to Brac, the rest has nothing to offer. Mostar has the old bridge which you can enjoy for 1-2 hours and that's it, the rest of the city offers nothing. Maybe they could advertise Mostar as "come and see how fascism divided a city in half in the middle of Europe, modern history lesson". As for Podgorica, there is absolutely nothing that city offers to a tourist other than its proximity to the Adriatic coast, the city itself is a godforsaken hole.
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