Adria to boost winter network


Adria Airways will significantly boost its operations during the 2019/2020 winter season when compared to last year. The Slovenian carrier will maintain similar frequencies as to those operated during the 2017/18 winter, two years ago. Additional flights will run from Ljubljana to Copenhagen, Frankfurt, Paris, Prague, Pristina, Skopje, Sofia, Tirana, Vienna and Zurich. Adria will add the most new flights to the Danish and Albanian capitals, with an extra four rotations. As a result, the two routes will be maintained eight and eleven times per week respectively. An extra three weekly services will be added to Pristina and Skopje, both of which will operate ten times per week.

The Slovenian carrier will strengthen its presence in Vienna with two daily flights to operate during the winter, up from twelve weekly, while services to the French capital will also be boosted by an extra two weekly flights for a total of seven per week. Finally, Adria plans to add a weekly rotation to Sofia, for a total of five per week, while Frankfurt and Zurich will remain the airline’s most frequent routes, with 21 flights each, up one on last winter. The additional frequencies were enabled with the suspension of flights from Ljubljana to Moscow, Dusseldorf, Warsaw and Kiev last winter, as well as the closure of the carrier’s Paderborn base.

Commenting on future growth plans, Adria Airways' Managing Director, Sven Kukemelk, said in late May, "Today, Adria is clearly too small. In the long-run the airline must have forty to fifty aircraft in order to be sustainable. I wouldn't double my fleet within a two-year period, rather, it could be part of a ten-year plan. My goal now is to see the most sensible way to get this growth happening. Building a hub in Ljubljana is not easy - there are both pros and cons. Slovenia was and is the richest region in the former Yugoslavia, and there is already great demand for it in the area. We are in a relatively good position to connect the whole Balkans with Ljubljana".




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  1. Wow they doubled Copenhagen. I went on their website and sure enough there are daily flights plus an extra flight on Thursday. What’s the logic?

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    1. Isn't one of their maintenance providers based in CPH? Maybe it has something to do with that?

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    2. All the flight have something like 40 minute turnarounds. Doubt it has anything to do with it.

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    3. I also wonder what is the rational behind such a big increase.

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    4. 27% of all flights were cancelled on 4sep. Total 13 cancellations. Some flights were operated as triangle flights

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  2. Adria will be lucky to survive the winter!

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    1. People write this every year and Adria keeps on flying.

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  3. I'm not sure they will follow through. For SKP they always add additional flights and then just cancel them when the season starts.

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    1. And the other day a journey from Skopje to Ljubljana lasted 48 hours thanks to Adria's cancellations.

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    2. Yep
      https://www.24ur.com/novice/slovenija/potniki-adrie-airways-so-od-skopja-do-ljubljane-potrebovali-kar-48-ur.html

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  4. Waiting for the Adria haters...

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    1. I am sure it will be the haters fault when they start again cancelling one flight after the other and only offer passengers the option of flying a day late.

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    2. No one is hating on Adria. The airline owners have brought the company to a sorry state, which no longer serves its purpose. People are rightfully angry.

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    3. We say we dont hate. But we do everything to put pessimistic commentary when we get even small chance. We love to spread rumors. We post wrong numbers and multiply bad numbers even when there is bad weather or other reasons. We will not tolerate any issue that an airline would have if it happens to adria. All because we love adria. There are some issues Adria could avoid but we hate to honestly separate them and be constructive. We love adria so much that we create very bad picture on it with our propaganda.

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    4. Anon at 11:44
      So many delusions. So strong persecution complex...

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  5. So Air France will fly 13 times per week to Ljubljana and Adria seven. So 20 flights in total :o

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    1. I think JP has increased those flights as a response to AF. But I think it's a lost battle.

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    2. Aren't Air France and Adria partners on this route?

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    3. So much frequencies will ruin their loads !

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  6. If it was any other airline I would be happy but after what we saw this summer I am not holding my breath. I highly doubt they will be able to keep such an ambitious timetable in October, November or February.

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  7. I will believe it when I see it.

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  8. I just hope this is not some tactic to show how everything is fine ahead of pilot strike.

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    1. Not because of pilot strike but to show to suppliers how they are planning for the future. Same with the "strategic partner" fairy tale.

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  9. So we are in for more cancellations, delays and merged flights based on this ambitious schedule? Just like this summer.

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    1. Exactly. Same old same old from JP.

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  10. No wonder they are hiring more pilots and cabin crew.

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    1. You would have to be crazy to apply for job at Adria right now.

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    2. You would have to be crazy to book a ticket with Adria right now.

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    3. Just a few days ago Adria opened a job for "economic analyst". So if anyone is interested :D

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    4. I'm waiting for "route planner with geometry expertise" - for triangle, trapezoid & pentagon routes :)

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  11. An airline in their financial situation should not be massively expanding in winter when demand drops.

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    1. And we are still waiting on their financial report for last year and it's already September.

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    2. They don't want to make it public because it is a disaster.

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    3. They are actually breaking the law by not publishing.

      But CAA will still say everything is A OK.

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    4. They also haven't paid compensation to some people for cancelled flights for a year now. But they don't care. Law obviously does not apply to Adria.

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  12. Finally some positive news coming from Adria.

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    1. To me this makes no sense, sorry. Would make much more sense if they consolidated ops,

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    2. Positive news? Do you live in a cave?

      They have more cancelled flights in a week that MUCH larger airlines have in 6 months or more.

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  13. " In the long-run the airline must have forty to fifty aircraft in order to be sustainable."

    ok....

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    1. They only need some leasing company to give aircraft for free, Petrol to give fuel for free, Eurocontrol to not charge fees, handling agents to do ground handling for free, get 500 aircraft.

      And then they'll make profit............maybe.

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  14. Are they still merging and canceling flights?

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    1. Yes, more then ever.

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    2. Today they have lots of cancellations.

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    3. What did they cancel today?

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    4. Zurich, Frankfurt, Tirana, Skopje, Copenhagen, Brussels. But I think some of these are actually merged.

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    5. How bad were their loads when they can put two flights into a single regional jet?!

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    6. One of the issues this summer and the reason for so many cancellations and mergers is that they have taken on a lot of charters where they presumably make some money.

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    7. Don't forget ACMI. But they keep saying they are a flag carrier and then the pilots go crying to the PM.

      They want to have it both ways. Be a private airline that can do whatever they want, yet get money from the government when things go bad.

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    8. Yes and in return they pissed off passengers who are supposed to fly with them once charter season ends.

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    9. This morning LJU-VIE operated normally with Saab 2000. Return flight was cancelled. Seems like a technical problem with the plane.

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    10. An extremely hard landing occurred yesterday while landing in Vienna. Maybe it has something to do with that.

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    11. Those Saabs are absolute junk. They spend more time grounded then in the air. It should be seriously reviewed who made the decision to purchase these aircraft in the first place.

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    12. The same people who figured out SSJ would be by far the best aircraft for their fleet, even though all the airlines were returning them en mass.

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    13. Ah yes, forgot about the Sukhoi fiasco. And that happened this year. I can't keep up with Adria.

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    14. I read about these cancellations and mergers and then their executive says this

      "We are in a relatively good position to connect the whole Balkans with Ljubljana".

      Right.

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    15. ^Exactly. Their strategy of being a transfer airline is nonsense when you usually cancel or merge your Balkan operations.

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    16. Adria's problems are clearly the result of hateful media who dare report on mass cancellations and ungrateful passengers who don't appreciate the sightseeing tour around Europe.

      Air travel should be an unforgettable experience after all, not just A-B flight, right?

      Adria is just bringing back the good old days of airline flying.

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    17. Samo opoldanski ZRH je odpovedan ostali leti so predvideni po voznem redu CPH FRA TIR SKO

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    18. Ne
      https://ibb.co/DKtZ4rj

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    19. @Anonymous 10:37:

      ...I would add "...with a single merged flight" at the end of that ;)

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  15. How the heck will they do this with the situation that they hve too few pilots and aircrafts. S5-AAU will now be used as the aircraft providing spare parts as it seems they hve not enough cash anymore to buy spare parts or parts are not always immediately available on the market. Already now some destinations like ZRH are having less flights than planned for SUTT. IN MY EYES JUST A BLUFF TO SIMULATE A BETTER OWN SITUATION IN ORDER TO CALM DOWN PARTNERS AND SUPPLIERS

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    1. Yes I also believe it is just a bluff.

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    2. We as a supplier don't have any hope that they will survive this winter. They own us that much money but we still hope that they will pay some of them. There is no strategy how to stop loosing money, how to fix their problems, they are just sending to the media FAKE news to survive this summer season, because they need to end with ACMI business. But Luxair already said that they will use another provider because this is not good for them to have Adria as their provider.

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    3. Better to stop providing services/goods and cut your losses.

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    4. What I don't get is why suppliers continue to provide service to JP if they have not paid for anything?

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    5. But Luxair already said that they will use another provider because this is not good for them to have Adria as their provider.

      Do you have any source for that...luxair will presumably stop flying scn-txl in march due low pax figures, but never heard what you say.
      No matter how financial situation is, how is situation in lju and what we think about adria, acmi oprations are done well, with minor delays and practicaly no cancellations. And as i hear partners are satisfied.

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  16. Adria's response to AS increase to Tiana's frequencies is interesting. It just shows you that TIA is a market that will continue to have significant and ongoing positive growth. I would have loved to see OU part of this battle.

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    1. There is also rising competition in Tirana from LCCs.

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    2. JP has a massive advantage compared to JU. With a ticket you get a free sightseeing tour which includes another regional airport like TGD, SJJ... How can JU compte with that.

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  17. I doubt any of this will materialize.

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  18. If this is to happen, it would actually be quite a good schedule from Adria. We will see.

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  19. With all the cancellations this summer, you would think they have learnt their lesson in not creating overly ambitious schedules.

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    1. Well I think if someone books with Adria it's their own problem. They know full well that airline is a shamble and there is a high likelihood their flight will be cancelled.

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    2. +1 last anon.

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  20. I wish them good luck but I'm not overly optimistic.

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  21. Let's first see if they survive until the end of summer.

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  22. Whoever can take this airline seriously anymore??? Been burnt by them too many times and I have finally learnt my lesson.

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  23. Wait, didn't they say how Ljubljana market is small and insignificant and that they can't grow from there? And now they will add all these flights?

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    1. Fewer and fewer ACMIs.

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    2. What fewer ACMIs? As far as I'm aware all their ACMIs are ongoing.

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    3. They will probably loose Luxair and Swiss ACMIs soon.

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  24. They are not fooling anyone.

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  25. Sofia seems to be one of the rare shining stars in their network. It was launched last year, survived the massive cuts last winter and this summer and now it is being increased.

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    1. Good to see at least one route worked from last year's expansion.

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    2. SOF was a good choice indeed. Also seems to have mostly escaped any cancellations or mergers.

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    3. What's more is that they used to operate A319 on some days, especially weekdays.

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  26. Can someone tell me on which routes is Adria using A319s?

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    1. Random. At the moment mostly charters and merged flights (triangles).

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    2. Their entire fleet utilisation is completely random at the moment.

      Every airline manager will tell you this is a very profitable way to run an airline.

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    3. Anonym 1020@

      They hve not enough A319 pilots, thats why ac are not in full service

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  27. Not surprised by network at all. Adria needs cash immediately. They put all these flights on sale so they can get much needed revenue from ticket sales and then in a month or two they will just cancel these flights. They are focusing how to survive from today until tomorrow.

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    1. Sad but true.

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    2. Thats exactly how they do. Promoting and selling flights, afterwards cancelling them and not paying compensations

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  28. This reminds me of Air Berlin just before they went bust which announced numerous new routes and frequency upgrades for the winter of 2018-19.

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  29. They wasted their leading position in ex-Yu from 90's. Have flown with them twice over a year or so and in future will avoid them as much possible: delay, cancellation and poor service, as a frequent business traveler I cannot afford that.

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  30. Well done Adria!

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  31. If I was Adria I would be more worried about 3 day strike which starts at the end of the week then winter timetable.

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    1. What does the strike have to do with winter network planning?

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    2. Strike still on?

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    3. Yes, no deal has been reached so far.

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    4. Who is striking? Pilots? I guess passengers will be rebooked on other airlines?

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    5. Pilots
      https://www.exyuaviation.com/2019/09/adria-pilots-announce-several-strikes.html

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  32. Interesting. It seems they will be carrying out this timetable with one fewer aircraft. S5-AAL seems to have ended is career with JP. Parked at LJU in front of Solinair hangar, engines now completely taken off.

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    1. Seems to be the case. Hasn't flown in months.

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    2. Have they sold the engines to someone?

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    3. speculating, but probably the known GE engines problem - cracks in the combustion chamber. that means switching the engines. guess if adria has that kind of cash.

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    4. Do you think they own the engines on the aircraft?

      The aircraft is used as a scrapyard where they get "free" parts to keep the rest of their CRJ fleet flying without incuring too much cost.

      Legacy Star Alliance airline.

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    5. i know that they don't own the engines. but depending on the lease agreement this kind of maintenance can be either at cost of the operator or at cost of the owner (leasing company). with situation a) adria doesn't have the cash to pay for such stuff, and in situation b) by own admission, the leasing companies are the biggest creditors, they sure as hell will not make their open positions (liability) towards adria any bigger, before adria does not close or makes smaller its debt to the leasing company. Let's not forget, adria's debt is matured, therefore any prolongation comes with conditions. One can quite possibly be that the lessor does not finance any services.

      in such a situation you can make use of a plane as a spare part donor, but with consent of the lessor. Adria can't just take parts from a plane that is the ownership of someone else.

      But as i've said it's a specualation, but i've heard quite a few airlines had developed problems with these engines by virtue of cracks in the core of the engine.

      But with adria, whi knows what they are doing.

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  33. None of this will happen. A dreamers schedule produced by Adria.

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  34. While most of you are pessimistic, it could be that these frequency increases are a result of a positive outcome in talks with a future strategic partner.

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    1. When pigs fly.

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    2. Yeah and tomorrow we will see Adria's 10 brand new A350s arrive in LJU.

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  35. Someone told me they're contemplating a A220 order. No idea where they could borrow that kind of cash.

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    1. don't think even mafia and lonesharks with 100% weekly interest rate would be willing to take that risk.

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  36. as much I would like Adria to survive....I just don't get it. Maybe they found a new model, like bus line or something? One aircraft flying on route Ljubljana-Munchen-Frankfurt-Brussels-Amsterdam-Copenhagen-Prague-Vienna-Ljubljana? Line 54?

    Jesus....

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    1. Just simulating healthy company but in reality misleading. This is fraud, especially since they do not pay delay or cancellation compensation

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  37. Adria Airways set an record of the longest flight :)
    https://www.24ur.com/novice/slovenija/potniki-adrie-airways-so-od-skopja-do-ljubljane-potrebovali-kar-48-ur.html

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  38. So SOF is turning from 3 to 5 weekly! This is a huge surprise. This route seems to be doing quite well.
    My guess is that it will turn daily in summer 2020 and compete with JU and LO on the BUD routes.

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    1. There will be no JP in 2020.

      Or do you think they will magically find the tens of millions of EUR to pay off all the debt?

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    2. Sorry mate, but we've been hearing JP going bust for so many years and this never happened.
      What makes you so sure about the financial situation of 4K?
      Plus, it seems cash is coming from Denmark and Germany routes and this is just promising.
      It also seems that Albania is new Balkan star attracting more and more carriers having TIA compete with the top ex-Yu airports when it comes to passenger traffic and JP did not hesitate 1 second to grab its chunk from this sweet market before the arrival of big sharks.

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    3. Well, 4K might have money, nobody is disputing this.

      The question is whether they are willing to put a lot of it into Adria to pay off debts? My bet would be no.

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    4. JP is going bust because it's situation is going from bad to worse every year. It's not like when Jat became Air Serbia where the situation started improving. Here the opposite happened!

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  39. Wearing shoes it can't walk. How reduculus an airline operator who became the worst schedule completion rate performer in Europe goes hype about the next season? Juliet Papa is regulary obeing slots which has been assigned to and it's actually treshing European ATM who is already congested. Whats the hype about the schedule where you cannot complete it while flying for LH, LG, OU and regulary JP pax on the ground? The airline lost all credibility ever created and if this wouldn't be registered in Slovenia, it would already chase operations.

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