Tuesday, January 29, 2013

Jat to decide on future fleet on Thursday

Solution to Jat’s fleet problems on the horizon

The makeup of Jat Airways’ future fleet will be decided on Thursday, January 31, when the task group in charge of restructuring the Serbian national carrier meets. The Deputy Minister for Transport in charge of aviation, Milutin Popović, says the task group will now meet once every week, or more if needed, until it solves all the problems which have piled up at the national carrier. “There are a lot of unanswered questions and the public will soon be informed of the task group’s proposals”, he says. Originally, it was planned for Jat to lease two ATR72s, two A319s and two A320s this summer season, joining six Boeing 737-300s and two ATR72s.

Mr. Popović denied media reports that Jat will be turned into a low cost airline. “Jat cannot be a low cost airline as Jat is Serbia’s national carrier which has the desire to be dominant on the Serbian market”, he says. He adds Jat will be restructured so it would be of interest to potential buyers in the future, which could also buy Jat Tehnika, the airline’s maintenance company which was separated from the carrier several years ago.

Jat’s current aircraft shortage saga began at the beginning of the year when half of its fleet was grounded, in need of spare parts or in preparation for the return to their original owner. Last Friday, the CEO of AJ Walter Aviation, the world’s leading aircraft component supply company, held talks with the Serbian Prime Minister adding they would be interested in playing part in solving Jat’s problems. Some grounded aircraft are expected to return to the sky in the coming months after the airline’s ten million euro bank loan was approved. Jat has been forced to cut frequencies on several destinations and suspend flights to Brussels until April 1 in order to carry out its operations with its downsized fleet.

43 comments:

  1. Jat is already a low-cost full-service airline. I paid a return ticket for SKG EUR 119 (all inclusive). Isn't that low cost? Refreshments and 30 kg of luggage is included.

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    1. No, it is not. LCC is not defined as Airline which has low prices. To have low prices you must have structure of LCC including planes with low expenses. If you just have low prices with legacy structure you will have huge expense and small income so your loss every year will be bigger and bigger.

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  2. I just knew jat would be the news tooday! Jat's prices are very low cost, but they must be losing a lot of money selling ticket's at low prices. In order to be low cost they need new aircraft which will be fuel efficient and they need to make drastic cut's in their work-force. In my view jat management should of surely made fleet plans for this year many month's ago, and have funding from the government ready. Everything seems to be left to the last minuite!

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  3. Are they all serious that Jat can't fill an A321 to SVO, LHR, MXP, CDG, BCN or DXB? In my opinion Jat needs 4 A319 and 2 A321.

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    1. A321's are far from needed. DXB in low season was aroud 50% CLF on a B733. Other destinations could do with added frequencies on smaller ac to make JAT more attractive as an option rather keep CDG as 1 daily on an A321. There is demand, but not that big.

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  4. Woow, after more than a month they will have meeting.

    And now in less than two months they will lease aircrafts, train crew, organise maintanance, logistics etc. Congratulation. A nother good example of Jatovanje!

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  5. I have it on good authority that Santa's reindeer are still available for dry lease.

    And why would this AJ Walter mob waste time talking to Dacic? Last I checked he wasn't on the "Holy shit what do we do with JAT task group"

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  6. It is becoming disgusting to even read these Jat news. Seems just like a game of a bunch of amateurs. "Oh let's order that plane! Oh non, let's order this one perhaps." Even if the proposal seems to be the most natural this far (2 ATR-x00 + 4 A319 + 2 A320) i'm afraid all we might see by the summer are two leased A319 or B734, the former being the most likely. That's it.

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  7. JAT--Just About Teasing

    The JAT management is just teasing the public. They have to make it look as if they are doing something. Who knows, maybe they are actually talking about shutting the airline down. They tell the public that they are in talks about leasing aircraft ( how many times in the past years have we heard this), they will say that JAT can't find something suitable or not enough aircraft, and then give the excuse we have to shut down.

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    1. Lol! I think the management drink too much rakija during these meeting's then talk a lot of nonsense!

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  8. There are media reports that major decisions are postponed until end of February. I keep telling: believe it when the new aircraft touch down in Belgrade. Btw, AJW aviation that is in talks about JAT is the one who dealt with the aircraft for AZAL. Ring a bell?

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  9. Budapest airport statistics for 2012 finally published:

    - Passengers: 8.5 million (-5% /2011)
    - Aircraft movements: 87.560 (-21% /2011)
    - Cargo tonnage handled: 93.123 (-13% /2011)

    http://www.bud.hu/?tPath=/view/&documentview_type=save&documentview_site=500&documentview_id=2901

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    1. U'll find that many airports in the EU have suffered in terms of passenger numbers. So 5% fall in numbers for Budapest isn't that bad, in 2013 it'll go up again, after all Malev, the Hungarian national carrier went bust in 2012, number of passengers was bound to go down as a result.

      Until Hungarians decide on new national carrier it'll be up to foreign airlines to take major share.

      Example you forgot to mention that Prague Airport handled 12 million passengers in 2012, nearly 4 times that of Belgrade, if that was your intention, to laugh it up, look Budapest is doing bad, na na na...

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    2. No, it was look how airport recuperated well in terms of passengers besides losing 21% of aircraft movement.

      And as i know 3,4 * 4 = 13,6 and that is not as near to 8,5mio.

      The 4 times more pass is more equal to ZAG, na na na...

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    3. BUD is not ex-Yu and will never be. Wait and see all the new comers in 2013 and not to mention the massive expansion of Wizzair. BUD is not only touristic but has much much more than BEG, ZAG, LJU and SKP all together!

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  10. What Jat needs is money but is it worth it is what they will be discussing in those meetings.

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  11. Pustite vise JAT na miru.Treba vremena da se kompanija oporavi! Pa gdje su ti postovi podrske JAT-u????






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    1. Ma šta da ne, šta da ne pustimo kompaniju koja živi u snovima 80-tih na račun budžeta i građana Srbije. Sa nesposobnim kadrom i puno previše zaposlenih.

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    2. But you have to be magician to destroy company with 30 modern planes including DC-10, slots, offices abroad...

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  13. Zagreb Airport will be built by 2015, its no longer an issue, land and all the relevant documentations have been sorted out, the construction will go ahead come April or May and new terminal should be up and running by the end of 2015, not sure of exact dates, as most dates are set by politicians.

    Just to remind you, new terminal is going to be around 70 000sqm, with 12 passenger boarding bridges and massive 150-250 000sqm airport ramp able to accommodate up to 20 A320 type aircraft and 2 A380 Wide body aircraft (20x50x50m boxes and 2x80x80m boxes), the main runway might be enlightened to by 300m, from present 3250m to 3550m.

    A multistory car park will also be added and large parking space underneath the new terminal will also be available for employees at the new terminal, it is expected some 1500 new jobs will be created at new terminal and another 3000 jobs at the Airport city that will be built between 2014 and 2017.

    Old terminal will be turned in to a low cost airline terminal as well as for domestic routes, with easy jet, german wings, wizz air and Croatian airlines Dash 8, 400Q will primarily use the old terminal.

    With Croatian EU entry and Zagreb becoming increasingly popular among city brake visitors things look really promising for Zagreb and Zagreb airport. in 2012 Zagreb was visited by 720 000 tourist who generated around 1.25 million nights, 2013 City hopes for 8% growth on these figures and by 2015 at least million visitors will visit the city, many of whom will arrive by air.


    good times lay ahead for Zagreb and Zagreb airport.






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  14. Ideal fleet: 2x A319(156Y)+2X320(180Y) or 4x A319,2 x ATR72-600(72Y -huge flexibility; in sector where A319/320 for example have a block time of 1hr 20 minutes...same sector, when operated by ATR 72-500, takes 2hours.)...A321 is not for JAT. A321 was designed to fill the short-haul, high density routes,all season.JAT does not have even charter destinations for that a/c.Sorry.

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    1. I especially feel sorry for the airlines flying the A321 to BEG on regular basis, they must be true idiots.

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    2. Haahhahahhah

      I love his English ahahah

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  15. Here is my proposal for JAT fleet:
    5 A319
    3 A320
    5 EMB-170

    Or...

    10 B738
    5 EMB-170

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    1. you must be optimistic with what JAT can get, If Serbia approves lease of new aircraft it is likely they'll try to save the costs.

      Serbia is unlikely to approve more than 25€ million in guarantees, which limits JAT to few options, long term lease of 6 A319.

      Alternative is for JAT and Serbia to agree easy credit with the Russians and get some Sukhoi Superjet 100, each being around 50$ million and Russia being more willing to offer soft credit to Serbia, it would be best option for JAT, in such circumstances JAT should go for 8 SSJ100 and 4 SSJ 130 or 4 Irkut MS-21-200ER, Either case cost of 12 aircraft shouldn't be more than 660$ million, cost of 8 Airbus A319 or 7 A320.

      JAT can't afford new western aircraft, it can lease them but than leasing 8 A320 or B737 800 wont be cheap, and JAT as it is, can't afford at least not with massive debt airline is burden with.


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    2. Yup. Just the eternal question: why is Serbia looking only Westwards for the solution to its problems?

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    3. How about going further east and getting some chinese aircraft? Our Chinese brothers will certainly offer us as good loan terms as Russians...
      Or Jat could just get some second hand Tupolevs, they must be cheap...
      Seriously, guys, if Jat needs small jets, what's wrong with leasing E-Jets? As for the larger planes, get 10year old A319s or even better B738s - you can't get new ones any time soon

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    4. China hasn't really got really anything to offer, Comac_C919 200 is 4 years from entering service and its basically copy of Bombardier CSeries made in China, but as all copies it under performs or as fuel efficient.

      Price wise it might be around 65$ million mark, but I still think SSJ100 and SSJ 130 are best options for JAT.

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    5. SSJ might be cheaper to buy, but to maintain it is more expensive. Spare parts are rare and if it went tech what will JAT do? Where would they get mechanics and spare parts from? Besides, Sukhoi have been very very slow in building ac, only a handful in 2 years! Sukhoi will be ready to give JAT's orders by 2025 at its current delivery rate!

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    6. When you buy western aircraft you also pay for support package, I'm sure Russians offer same package, it would be stupid not to. Also SSJ production only just started, and they've got 250 orders, i am sure things will speed up as thing move in to gear.

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  16. Qatar Airways CEO on the meeting with the Minister of Economy of the Republic of Macedonia, today in Doha announced that it expects to the end of the year Qatar Airways to introduce direct line SBP - Doha!!! Well Done

    http://kurir.mk/makedonija/ekonomija/101364-Delegacija-od-Katar-vo-mart-doaga-vo-Makedonija-da-gi-konkretizira-proektite

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    1. На средбата со генералниот директор на „Катар Ервејс“, јави известувачот на МИА, беше потенцирано дека до крајот на годинава планираат да отворат и директна чартер линија помеѓу Доха и Скопје.


      POTENCIRANO? CHARTER?

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    2. Kakoo prvo qatar airways ne e carter kompanija, a kako vtoro ne opsluzuvaat carter linii, toa e zaradi nedovolnata informiranost na novinarite na zborot chater !!! ;)

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    3. I agree. Have read the article and it is loaded with false information. The one who put it together hasn't seen a plane or a plane for that matter in his life!!! :)

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  21. I am optimistic about JAT's future fleet because Wizzair could react super fast if JU starts cancelling routes. Getting Chinese or Russian a/c? Don't think so. Almost all European carrier fly Aibrus, Boeing, Embraer, CRJ, ATR, Fokker but NOT Sukhoi!

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  22. JAT's problems is more than just ac, its the people running it and the amount in the management. Until that is solved, JAT can have a new fleet of the most efficient ac and still produce losses! Which management finds it acceptable that half the fleet is not flying because of a lack of spare parts? Or that ac is flying dilapidated and parts from the interior fall off inflight? Or ac being sent to fly after a pathetic cleaning job? Or allow cabin crew to show attitude and not regulate a dress standard for work? No body is responsible for this but every second minister seems to be the solution finder!

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