Monday, October 7, 2013

"Air Serbia will be a world class airline”

Air Serbia promises “new flying experience”

With just under twenty days left until the official launch of Air Serbia, the new look Serbian national carrier is boasting what it says will be an onboard product previously unseen in the region. The recently appointed new CEO of Jat Airways and the future head of Air Serbia, Dane Kondić, says, “This is a historic time for Jat Airways as it stands on the cusp of a fresh, exciting and innovative transformation into Air Serbia. Working closely with our new partners we will create a successful national airline for Serbia and build a solid foundation for us to grow and thrive as a profitable and sustainable world class airline”.

Mr. Kondić explains Air Serbia’s short term strategic plans include the introduction of an upgraded fleet, new routes, better connectivity and improved service. In the long term, Mr. Kondić believes the Serbian carrier will become a leading airline in the region. “The creation of Air Serbia is about making real positive changes that will enable us to serve you better than ever before”, the CEO says. He adds, “Our first Airbus A319 aircraft will allow us to offer levels of comfort and service not previously experienced by passengers flying on our network”.

Yesterday, the Deputy Prime Minister of Serbia, Aleksandar Vučić, spoke of the airline’s new onboard product which will be revealed to the public during the week starting October 21. “The cabins and service at Air Serbia will be better than those offered by Lufthansa. They are criticising our deal with Etihad but Air Serbia will become a leading company in the region which will take a lot of business away from other airlines, including German ones”. Mr. Vučić’s comments came after a critical piece aired recently by Germany’s international broadcaster Deutsche Welle, questioning whether Etihad will have much to gain from purchasing Jat.

Jat CEO Dane Kondić is also upbeat on what passengers can expect from the airline come late October, “We cannot wait to share with you this new flying experience. It is very exciting”. He adds, “We are building a fuel efficient, environmentally friendly fleet that will better meet the demands of our network and business”.

Air Serbia will officially launch on October 26. You can read Mr. Kondić’s first address to all current and future passengers, on EX-YU Aviation News’ dedicated launch page here.

51 comments:

  1. I like the way the new CEO thinks. Outside of the usual Balkan way of thinking. I wish him and JU good luck.

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    1. what we need (not just in JU, but in the whole economical life), are people thinking in an good international manner, but having also an eye for the economy and social issues of southeast europe. it´s not enough to have expirience in some foreign company and just to settle down in belgrade and act as it was Sydney, Abu Dhabi or Berlin. Because it is not. There is a different customer behaviour here, people are not rich, there is a nationalism coming from all the sides and stopping people making a rational choice...

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    2. .. serbia, croatia, bulgaria ... all societies in the region are far away of making a ticket buy decision based only on the service and flying adventure that is offered. for montenegrins it is important to fly with montengro airlines. croatians believe that Croatia airlines is one of their best brands and identify that company with the very nation and state. There is planty of customers ready not to buy a foreign company´s ticket even if it is cheaper. The only grounded business strategy here would be the one that intend to convience people in the neighbouring country that JU is their airliner as well.

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  2. Lol, better than Lufthansa. But i have to use Lufthansa on my trips to Lyon, because Airserbia does not have it on its network.

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    1. The world is big my friend. You cannot always have the whole cake.

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    2. To fly only to Paris in one such a big country such as France, its a shame for one 'world class airline' :) Probably, there are more economical reasons for flights to Varna. I wish all the best to Airserbia, of course, and I am sure they will expand their network of destinations in Europe.

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    3. oh, dear, you seem to have no clue on france and its centralization. even the air france is keeping international flights practically only for paris.

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    4. Hope that your "problem" will be solved with an AF-codeshare soon.

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    5. Same situation than you! Flight from lyon should be fantastic!

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  3. More and more I get the feeling that those intercontinental flights mentioned by Hogan will become reality in 2-3 years.

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  4. it´s not an new airline. it´s the JU with new name and product.

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  5. Re: flight to Lyon. He said better cabin experience - which has nothing to do with destination(s) such as Lyon. I, however, do agree that AIr Serbia should inroduce Lyon asap. JAT used to fly to Lyon. ...and of course, not just Lyon, but Nis, Zagreb, Manchester, Barcelona, Madrid...(the list is quite long :) but I do beleive Air Serbia will have the best cabin service (seats, screens, catering) compered to the present Euro-Mediterranean services.

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    1. JAT used to fly to Manchester for the same reason the Croatia Airlines is now flying. In order to bring tourists to the adriatic sea cost. You people just thing this is some kind of video-game, with all cheats once get, and now just lets spit out few more destinations. If JU is heading for Adriaditic market, you should have thought about other name in the very first place. Tourists heading to the sea side absolutly prefair direct flights. If you cannot offer direct flights,you cannot get those passangers.

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  6. From Skyscrapercity.net:

    Posmatrao sam malo red letenja JU za leto 2014-te, kao i tarife i primetio sam izvesna odudaranja od onog što je javno predočeno prilikom potpisivanja ugovora. Pričalo se tada da će postojati čvršće povezivanje sa partnerima Etihada, kompanijama Air Berlin, zatim alijansom Sky Team, naročito su tada naglašeni Air France, KLM i Alitalia.

    Ono što u redu letenja je više nego očigledno je da se sem par izuzetaka osetno pojačavaju kapaciteti tamo gde trenutno postoji konkurencija, čak kada su u pitanju i partneri koji su citirani gore.

    Da krenem od Rima, jedne od mojih najčešćih destinacija već deset godina. Tokom vremena sam posmatrao sve promene koje su se dešavale, tip putnika, tarife itd. Od narednog leta su za Rim predvidjena 2 dnevna leta sa A319. Sa ponudom koju ima Alitalia, izmedju Beograda i Rima će biti skoro 4 leta dnevno zavisno od dana. Ono što me buni je činjenica da je drugi dnevni let predvidjen u isto vreme kada je i let Alitalije i to sa pet minuta razmaka, a sam Hogan je najavio da će se intenzivirati saradnja i code share ugovor sa Alitalijom. Ne znam da li je ovo primer saradnje?

    Alitalija je od zimskog reda letenja postavila svoje kodove samo na onim letovima Er Srbije koji se ne sudaraju sa njenim, odnosno samo na 3 leta nedeljno u jutarnjim satima iz Beograda (ali ne i na povratnom letu iz Rima ka Beogradu) i na 4 večernja leta iz Rima za Beograd (ali ne i na odlaznom letu Beograd Rim). Ovo je sa aspekta Alitalije spuštanje saradnje na niži obim.

    Izmedju Rima i Beograda, su zaista puni avioni, ali po mojoj slobodnoj proceni oko 65% putnika su tranzitni koji nastavljaju sa letovima uglavnom Alitalije ili nekim partnerom SkyTeam-a dalje. Ako Alitalija neće stavljati svoje kodove na veći deo letova JU zanima me na koji tip putnika računaju stratezi u Er Srbiji da će puniti ove avione, jer tranzitne će zadržati Alitalia?

    Kada je tarifna politika na ovoj liniji u pitanju, ne znam koje su tarife u ekonomskoj klasi (osim promotivnih koje su sada obajvljenje) ali u biznis klasi su već postavili tarife koje je ranije imala Alitalia i kada su na ovoj liniji imali uglavnom prazna sedišta. Tek kada su uveli drugačije tarife Alitalija je počela da popunjava sedišta u biznis klasi. Ako im izostane putnik biznis klase, a zbog prevelike ponude budu prinudjeni da puštaju cene u ekonomskoj klasi kako bi privukli putnike, plašim se da se kola takve politike negde ne polome.

    Milano, moja takodje česta destinacija je pojačan, ali tu već dobro drma easyJet i biće pravo umeće izboriti se za putnika kojeg je Jat izgubio.

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    1. ...... Takodje interesantno je primetiti da je planirana bolja saradnja i sa Er Berlinom, ali u letnjem redu letenja nema uopšte značajnijeg povećanja kapaciteta prema čvorištima ove kompanije, štaviše broj letova je gotovo isti kao i sada.

      Pojačava se jedino Štutgart (koji nije čvorište Er Berlina) ali je grad u kojeg leti Germanwings.

      Pojačava se i Kopenhagen do kojeg dva puta nedeljno leti Norwegian, što nije preterano ozbiljna konkurencija, ali jeste Wizz koji leti ka Malmeu 5 puta nedeljno i koji je udaljen pola sata kolima od Kopenhagena.

      Pojačava se Atina gde leti Olimpik i koji ne verujem da će opstati na ovoj liniji.
      Kada je Grčka u pitanju jako je zanimljivo povećanje kapaciteta ka Solunu.

      Od sledećeg leta predvidjena su 2 dnevna leta sa A319. Ovo predstavlja povećanje kapaciteta od skoro 600% u poredjenju sa upravo završenom sezonom kada je 5 puta nedeljno i to u špicu sezone išao AT7. AT7 ima 66 sedišta što predstavlja 330 sedišta nedeljno u ponudi. A319 ima 128 sedišta sa 14 letova nedeljno znači 1792 sedišta. Izmedju Beograda i Soluna postoji značajno O&D tržište, ali ne baš ovoliko. Odakle stratezi nove kompanije misle da namaknu i koji tip tranzitnih putnika sa ovog i ka ovom gradu? Naime, Solun ima dobru ponudu i niskotarifnih prevoznika, ali i regularnih i povezan je sa skoro svim gradovima Evrope. Drugo, šta nekog ko ima mogućnost da bira može privući da iz jednog dela Šengen zone ide u drugi preko grada koji nije u njoj (većina destinacija Er Srbije je u Šengen zoni). Jedino cena, a koliko sam razumeo iste stratege, Air Serbia ne bi trebalo da bude prevoznik sa niskim tarifama, već dobrom uslugom, a dobra usluga košta.

      London kao moja povremena destinacija me je iznenadio činjenicom da ne da nema povećanje, već smanjenje kapaciteta uzimajući u obzir da nema u ponudi dva leta za aerodrom Heathrow i dva za Gatwick koji su postojali prošle i ove godine. Letovi su uvek bili puni a karte skupe. Već vidim Swiss ili Austrian koji će se ovde umešati.

      Onda se uvodi Bukurešt već ovog Decembra, gde leti Tarom 5 x nedeljno i koji sa prebacivanjem svih letova na jedan aerodrom ima mnogo jaku ponudu u regionu i niskotarifnih i regularnih prevoznika. U isto vreme Sofija je odložena za kasnije.

      Itd....

      Ima još zanimljivosti i u isto vreme nelogičnih poteza koje sam primetio ali da ne dužim više. Nadam se da stratezi koji su odlučivali o ovim stvarima znaju što šta što nije poznato javnosti, samo da se ne polupaju nečiji lončići u budućnosti.
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    2. .....

      Juče sam video i linije Air Berlina na kojima će Air Serbia imati svoj code share i neke mi uopšte nemaju smisla, npr Dizeldorf Minhen ili Berlin Minhen. Zar nije bilo logičnije staviti code share na liniji Beč Minhen ako se želela pokriti destinacija na koju Air Serbia ne leti. Ovako leteti 2 sata i 15 min Beograd Dizeldorf pa onda sat vremena u rikverc da bi se stiglo u Minhen je prilično bzvz a ne verujem da će tu uspeti cenom da ubiju Lufthansu.

      Onda, stavili su code share na linijama ka Stokholmu i Kopenhagenu, ka kojima se leti direktno i to svakodnevno plus što ka istim gradovima postoji direktna konkurencija (Wizz i Norwegian). Jedino mi razumno deluje code share ka Helsinkiju i Oslu, zatim New York i Chikago.

      Zar nije bilo logičnije code share-om pokrivati one destinacije na koje se neće leteti, ali postoji izvesna tražnja, tipa Manchester ili Glasgow, eventualno nešto ka Španiji tipa Barcelona ili Madrid, Lisabon u Portugalu ali Mallorca ? wtf

      Neki potezi novih stratega mi se čine baš baš uvrnutim

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    3. Mene isto tako cudi kako ce a319 na svakodnevnom letu za Solun popuniti kabinu, jer nema mnogo grka koji 'poslom' putuju u Beograd, ili svakodnevni let do Sofije, Bukuresta.. Isto tako me cudi da nikome nije pala na pamet ideja o liniji za Zadar. Svakog dana na hiljade ljudi odlaze u Dalmaciju sto poslom, sto privatno i voze se privatnim prevozima i autobusima koji odlaze do tih krajeva. Isto tako sam ubedjen da bi linije ka Mancesteru, Barseloni, Hamburgu, Nirnbergu, Veneciji, S.Petersburgu, Salcburgu, Krakovu itd privukle dovoljan broj putnika. Slazem se da se ne moze sve odjednom, ali 2 puta dnevno let do Atine je CIST PROMASAJ, pored 6 letova nedeljno olympic aira! To je gotovo 3 puta dnevno. Atina je grad koji je povezan ne samo sa svim evropskim, vec i sa mnogim interkontinentalnim destinacijama. Sve letove koje sam nabrojao ne bi trebalo pod obavezno da budu dnevni, ali bar 2,3 puta nedeljno. To su gradovi koji su turisticki vrlo razvijeni. Nismo mi bas narod koji ne putuje. Pa pogledajte samo flydubai koji vec drugi put za redom uvodi dodatne letove ka Dubaiju zbog povecanja traznje. Dubai je daleko pa se tamo odlazi eto zbog doceka n.g. Ali postoje mesta kao sto je Prag, Krakov, Barselona i druga u koja nasi turisti odlaze tokom cele godine. Agencije ne mogu da postave aranzman sa presedanjima, jer je uzasno skupo itd itd.. Npr. Lisabon je grad koji rade mnoge turisticke agencije iz Beograda i ljudi odlaze tamo. Sa 3 leta nedeljno, bila bi to dobra prilika ne samo za potencijalne turiste, vec i za onaj mali broj ljudi koji odlazi poslovno, i onaj drugi isto tako mali broj koji zivi u Portugalu. Ne razmislja TAP tek tako da uvede liniju ka Beogradu, vec posmatra kretanja na trzistu. Mancester je grad koji sa svojom okolinom ima oko 20 mil stanovnika, a u centralnoj engleskoj zivi oko 10ak hiljada ljudi sa ovih prostora, tj. prostora Srbije. Nikada ne poredim wizzair sa Jat-om, jer su cene toliko slicne da ne mogu da verujem da wizzair na takav nacin posluje, i to samo u Srbiji. Do kraja godine ni na jednoj liniji osim do Skavste ne moze da se pronadje karta ispod 100e, povratna (a letis sa rancem na ledjima, jer svi znamo politiku prtljaga vizera), samo u dva tri slucaja moze da se nadje karta za nekih 60ak evra. Pri tom placas extremno skup transfer: beauvais-centar Pazira 16e jedan pravac, Skavsta-Stokholm 13e, Memmingen-Minhen 15e itd, itd.. Airserbia moze da pobije gotovo sve letove viza, ali su potrebne destinacije. Bas me zanima kako ce se zavrsiti linija ka Varni ili ta dva leta dnevno ka Atini..

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    4. Pretty good summary. I was also wondering about some decisions, but let's see what happens. I am sure there will be many adjustments to be made, once the timetable comes into effect. I am sure there will be many surprises - I only hope those will be positive, rather than negative.

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    5. I agree with you :)

      I honestly don't get why we need 2x daily to Athens at least Athens should be with ATR or some similar aircraft.

      Also what i don't get is why Air Serbia didn't code share with Aer Lingus and why Air Serbia don't flight to DUB as a transit passanger i prefer to transfer in DUB than in FCO or TXL.

      Also why Air Serbia don't add more flights to LHR :/ but they are adding to Athens.

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    6. LHR operates with 98% capacity since no change in time/slot for JU in new time table.

      Options are LGW/STN/LTN/SEN.
      LCY is out of question.

      Also...instead of sending A319, same slot can be used by bigger plane...but that aint gonna happen.

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  7. Sve sami internet eksperti ovde koji se bolje razumeju u vodjenje avio linije od Etihada.

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    1. Strucnjaci su upravljali i MALEV-om i Pan-Amm-om

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    2. komentar ti je bezveze, jer ovo jeste INTERNET forum, i ovde dolazi ljudi sa svojim misljenjem, a medju njima ima i ekperata, ali i ljudi koji svakodnevno putujuci vide neke sitnice i prelive koje neko ko sedi u Abu Dabiju i misli da odatle moze da prema svom iskustvu da napravi timetable za Air Serbiju, ne vidi. Etihad je na primer dobio 3 slota dnevno na Hitrou i takvoj kompaniji je naravno nerazumljivo da ne mogu tek tako da precrtaju 3 JU slota.

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    3. Komentar je izazvan idejom koji neki imaju o Lionu, jer njima taj let odgovara. Sto se ostalog tice, ljudima jos niste dali ni sansu da polete a vec vidite probleme. Sacekajte i mozda cete se prijatno iznenaditi u vezi slotova i broja letova. Sasvim sam siguran da nisu usli u pricu da bi bacali novac a kao i uvek i ju svakom poslu bice pokusaja i dobrih i losih kao i iznenadjenja. Da bi nesto uradio, moras to prvo pokusati

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    4. Kada bi znao broj srba koji zive u lionu, grenoblu i okolini, bilo bi ti jasnije zasto smatram da je lion veoma vazna destinacija.. i ne radi se samo o broju srba koji tamo zive (sto je btw veoma vazno), vec o kulturnoj, politickoj, ekonomskoj, turistickoj razmeni. Grad Lion je veliki industrijski centar francuske, mali je broj nasih ljudi koji tamo studira, mali broj francuza koji bi posetili ne samo beograd, vec srbiju. nije rec o beograd-lionu relaciji, vec o srbija-centralna i juzna francuska. sa dva leta nedeljno, mozda bi u pocetku bilo 50% putnika na letu, ali nekada se biznis planovi organizuju i prema pristupacnosti, tj. saobracajnoj povezanosti. da zakljucim, ne odgovara meni linija beg-lys, vec je potrebna srpskom turizmu, kulturi, ekonomiji, drustvu u celini. svi mi znamo ko su najcesci putnici na letovima za frankfurt, minhen, malme, milano, pariz, kopenhagen, i zato takvih letova ima 2-3 puta dnevno, ali sa tri leta nedeljno, moze mnogo da se ucini malom broju ljudi koji zive u lionu, barseloni, mancesteru, st.petersburgu, veneciji i slicnim gradovima, koji pored toga sto u njima zivi mali broj nasih ljudi (sto je veoma vazno), postoje i potencijalni strani turisti koji bi uz dobar marketing posetili srbiju i beograd kaon glavni i sve vise turisticki razvijeni grad. eto, toliko... srdacan pozdrav za sve one koji misle da je 2 leta dnevno sa a319 prema atini, a niti jedan za barselonu van pameti.

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    5. imali smo jat koja je bila kompanija po sistemu: letimo tamo gde su potrebne veze, gde imamo prijatelje, gde imamo nase ljude. i takva kompanija nije pravila profit. trazili smo nesto drugo. i sada ce JU kao Air Serbija leteti po ekonomskom kriterijumu. Dakle ili ima puna kabina ili nema - to je sada jedino pitanje, a ne gde se sviraju gusle...

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  8. The livery looks amazing. Also just a reminder to everyone Dane Kondic is not a politician he has actually worked in the aviation industry for over 20 years!

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    1. hmm.. jat never had someone from non-aviation industry as director...

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    2. Yeah, sure... And they were all great experts at it. The cleaning lady at Jat was also employed in the aviation industry, does it mean she would've been a good director?

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    3. maybe not great experts, but the initial comment makes no sense, and shows that there are many people putting here some big comments, with no clue on the business in JU - today or in the history.

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    4. About livery, yes, in my opinion it is amazing indeed, but i i can't imagine such divine livery on ATRs.....i love to fly with turboprop planes even 99% people prefer jets..i am 58 yeas old and still remember my first flight with JAT DC3 to from BEG to Split, Sinjsko polje, grass runway...i am an expert because i flew with all planes which JAT and other companies had in their fleet. Caravelle was my first jet plane experience flight.So, i would really love to fly from BEG to SJJ or TVT with new ATR-600 painted in amazing AirSerbia livery

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    5. I also flew on all Jat jets, except on YU-AGx, never got to fly the B707 for whatever reason. I was sad to see them go, but happy to soon be able to fly on the MD-11. And then the sh*t hit the fan...

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    6. It was the best plane ever! YU-AGA B707, i fllew with it and enjoyed like a baby

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    7. The livery is not amazing, it looks like a third rate airline from the region its in, this was a time for Serbia's flag carrier to stand out considering it was Etihad who invested in them, not Aeroflot, and Mr. Hogan should have had better eye for a tastefully done professional livery than this, he did Gulf Air makeover in 2003, why did he fail here, very strange, such liveries do not come out when a westerner runs the show, as its very important to them to give a international standard look to the company, so its a bizarre development in this case.

      I honestly expected something like Sabena, Air France, SAS, Lufthansa, Swissair as far as simplicity and professionalism is concerned for a flag carrier, as its been said the designer was told to just keep the fuselage white, all those liveries fall in this category and are yet so professional, hard to believe this is what she created and it got approved, I think there is more to the story, maybe she didn't have full freedom and unnecessary interference made her lose interest, yet she needed this for her portfolio and career breaks, same goes for Hogan, he would never have allowed this, without interference from within.

      This livery looks extremely unprofessional, regional east European airline circa 1992, no design agency would dole out such work, Malev Tarom, CSA even LOT are professional liveries from the same region, same for Croatia Airlines right next door, its kind of like BA world tails inspired and professionally done, don't care from the typeface spelling out Croatia Airlines though, that could have been better.

      Well Air Serbia, what a mess, yes you will have IFE and champagne and caviar onboard, but the right look to complement that would have been so good too.

      Can we for a moment just imagine if Sabena livery was what Air Serbia was getting, professional logo on single color tail, single colour engines, professional typeface for Air Serbia title.

      Mind you I am no fan of these minilmal liveries but theres a world of differene between a professional minimalist livery like Sabena and that what Air Serbia have got, I have seen much, much better liveries on second and third tier airlines in third world countries, what else to say.

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    8. Be carefull, when saying something like that there is bunch of discussion participant who is just waiting to point out that you are probably some ex JU worker, that cannot accept the breake up of yugoslavia... Reading your comment I felt a kind of sedness.. you have been mantioning SAS, LOT, Lufthansa, CSA all those grate airliners who made the aviation history hand in hand with JAT. And now we are whitnessing that all that history is being just burn down, just for the sake of some graphic student.

      http://www.brandingmagazine.com/2013/08/21/airserbia-branding/

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  9. The name doesn't have to do anything with Adriatic market potential. A tourst from England doesn't care if he's flying Croatia Airlines or Air Serbia, for him that doesn't represent anything. All he cares is that the flight is on time and the on board experience.

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  10. vau, dosta komentara tipa: Hoću sve i to odmah. polako ljudi, spustite loptu, ti ljudi znaju zašto će SKG i ATH biti dva dnevna leta i sve ostalo. vreme će pokazati šta su dobro, a šta loše uradili. i biće novih destinacija, pa neće valjda da razvijaju kompaniju sa par novih destinacija. a i još nije ni počeo zimski red letenja, vi se već uhvatili letnjeg. strpite se malo

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    1. A sto mislis da ti ljudi sve znaju? Je l Etihad nikad u svojoj itoriji nije doneo bas nijednu losu odluku? Ma daj, pa to je smesno. Odluke ne padaju sa neba niti se stvaraju same iz uma genijalnih robota, nego imaju svoj kontekst i razloge. Ako je neki razlog bio previdjen, eto i lose odluke. Niti razumem tu devizu da neko treba "da se strpi". JU sada vodi profesionalan menadzment i oni donose odluke. A na novinarima, gradjanima, zaljunlenciima u avijaciju,a naliticarima je da komentarisu. Nismo mi ovde nikakva inspekcija pa da se strpimo da vidimo nesto, nego svako pise za svoj gros.

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    2. Ali koliko vidim, Nikola nije ni rekao da ti ljudi sve znaju, nije tvrdio ni da Etihad nije nikada činio greške, samo je ukazao na realnu potrebu da se spusti lopta i da se sačeka da se vidi šta je konkretno urađeno pre nego što se to "nešto" kritikuje.

      Baš činjenica da JU sada vodi profesionalan menadžment govori u prilog tezi da treba videti šta je urađeno i praviti neke preseke i davati komentare na rezultate. Paušalno izražavanje mišljenja bazirano na vrlo malo realno dostupnih informacija snižava kvalitet i naše diskusije i nas kao učesnika.

      U savremenom (krajnje surovom) poslovnom svetu uspeh traje samo do prvog neuspeha a druge šanse se realno ne daju. Ko izgubi - leti napolje, bio on Dane Kondić, neki niže pozicioniran menadžer ili sam Džejms Hogan sa saradnicima. Nikome od njih propala „Er Srbija“ neće biti beznačajna mrlja na CV-ju, pogotovo ne posle onako javnog zalaganja za uspeh kompanije u Beogradu. Profesionalan menadžment koji je doveden u JU a i onaj koji ga iz Etihada ovamo poslao nema ni jedan jedini benefit da se „oklizne“ i pogreši. To ne znači da su bezgrešni, daleko od toga, ali znači da su im potezi promišljeni i da bismo trebali da sačekamo i da vidimo zašto su odlučili to što su odlučili pre nego uložimo napor da diskreditujemo odluke. U svakom slučaju, verujem da možemo dosta toga naučiti.

      Od ostalih tematika, koliko znamo, na Hitrou nije bilo dodatnih slotova u vreme koje njima/nama odgovara i zato je London ostao na jednom dnevnom letu, u vreme tj u slotovima koji već pripadaju Jatu.

      Pre zaključka da li su dva leta dnevno iz Atine/Soluna ka Beogradu sledećeg leta previše, mišljenja sam da je potrebno videti kako će se celokupan novi red letenja odraziti na broj putnika i na njihovu fluktuaciju kroz sistem, kako će se ponašati Olympik i Aegean (šta će uopšte sa te dve kompanije biti) i kako će oni pozicionirati svoje letove ka Beogradu.

      Realno, bilo bi lepo kada bi se pokrile još neke destinacije po Evropi i Rusiji ali ipak, ako pogledamo JU u Junu 2012, Junu 2013, i recimo ono što nam se predstavlja da će biti u Januaru i Junu 2014... malo li je.

      Pozdrav svima sa Brnika.

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    3. To su sve floskule, koje moze da napise samo neko ko mesa internet-forum i profesiju. Forum je forum i svako pise sta hoce, prema tome koliko zna. U struci i poslovnom zivotu, se sastaju ljudi relativno slicnog znanja i razmatrajustvari strogo prema dostupnim cinjenicama. Samo sto je takvim ljudima dostupno mngo vise brojki, cinjenica nego nama na forumu, tako da se opet sve vrti u krug, i normalno je da ljudi na internetu pisu pretpostavke, izlazu svoje povrsne kritike, stavove, sumnje itd. Sama cinjenica da je menadzment profesionalan ne znaci bas previse, jer iskreno mi ni ne znamo kakav je taj menadzment dobio zadatak od etihada (i vlade srbije), koji ce profesionalno obaviti. Da li razvoj srpske avijacije ili slepo lupanje kontri star alijansi? javnost upravo postoji da bi se takve stvari rascistile, a ovo sto je neko komentarisao na skyscrapercity-iju ide u tom smeru da je vec u startu dosta pojedinosti moglo da se uradi bolje.

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    4. Etihad je svakako imao loših odluka ali su one proglašene za loše tek nakon što je odredjeni vremenski period njihovog sprovodjenja to pokazao. Jedino su u Srbiji dobili spisak loših odluka pre nego što je prvi avion uopšte poleteo, plus poseban spisak zamerki na odluke koje NISU doneli (npr da uspostave linije prema svakoj evropskoj varošici u kojoj živi poneki srpski iseljenik, ili da jednostavno prekopiraju sve Jatove linije od pre pada berlinskog zida, ili da doniraju Turističku organizaciju Srbije tako što će popularisati našu zemlju u praznim avionima koji će leteti ka Mančesteru). Znači, donete odluke su im loše bez makar 24h kredita, a nedonete odluke bi im svakako bile dobre jer tako mali Perica zamišlja aviokompaniju. A za to vreme donosioci loših, je li, odluka, beleže prvu milijardu PROFITA. Ali zna Srbin bolje, neće oni njega preveslati svojim planiranjem linija.

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    5. LX,

      Свака ти част и у потпуности се слажем са тобом. Проблем је у томе што ће тај исти народ прочитати шта си написао али кроз два дана ће опет доћи овде и кукати како то да Ер Сербија лети за Варну или Букурешт а не за Манчестер или Лион... нажаост томе нема крај. Немој да губиш живце, не вреди.

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    6. @ LX, postoje i loše odluke koje se nikada ne primene, jer je neko ko poseduje poslovnu umešnost ideje i iskustvo primetio loše poteze na vreme i svojim saznanjima uticao da do njihove realizacije ne dodje. Tako donesena odluka ostaje loša samo u internim krugovima kompanije, dok odluke koje se javno proglase lošim su one koje su već realizovanje i čije sakrivanje od javnosti nije moguće, pa je zvanično priznanje istih način da se bar malo ublaži negativan efekat koji su proizvele.

      Etihad i vlada ulažu novac i angažuju profesionalni menadžement sa bogatim iskustvom. U takvim okolnostima njihovo pravo na grešku ne sme ni da postoji

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  11. I agree about the name and the tourists from England. People just pay their whole travel package and have no clue who they are flying with. However, before that, agencies have to make some agreements with companies, companies have to make agreements with airports and thats exectly the focus of national tourist board, political parties, state owned facilities where name does makes a difference. With all that cheap nationalism and low level politics in Croatia, it would be a big scandal there and a big media issue if "Air Serbia" would take money for bringing "Croatian" tourists from England of France directly to the sea cost. Not so about the company itself - it is the name which suits for newspaper covers and political propaganda. There would be a preassure from Croatian tourist board towards touristic agents and operators in England not take the offers of Air Serbia. Probably a lot of boulevartd press scandals, and different administrative games, such as delaying of the plane departure and so on. And yes, all that revalism and sabotage depand quit a lot on the company´s name.

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    1. Do you really believe that British tour operators would care about Croatian boulevard press? If the planes are deliberately delayed, this could only hurt Croatian tourism. However, I don't really see Air Serbia as being a big player in Croatian holiday market at this moment, so this whole dicsussion is pretty useless.

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    2. I don´t see Air Serbia being a big player in Cropatian holiday market, in direct flights from Skopljle, Pristina, Tirana, Ohrid, Varna neither.. So what is actually the Air Serbia´s market? No intent to offence, but seems to me like they are combining a 1970s national public operator air services with honest prayers to make profit. They certainly do not play according to the economical and customer behaviour patterns of the region.

      I´m sure that british tour opperators don´t pay attention on croatian boulevard press. But they do pay attention on flight delays, security rumours and all other dirty games, croatian administration has already showed to be capable of.

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  12. (Actually) I wish all the best to Air Serbia.
    My other half was very excited seeing Air Serbia plane yesterday in DUB.

    But...

    Lets get realistic. Spend some time reading reviews of Y class for both Eithad and AirBerling on Skytrax. It looks pretty bad.

    What I expect is decent J/C and no change for the rest of the plebs...

    But we'll see...

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    1. I can speak from experience as I have flown with them a few times (Etihad that is).
      Their service is superb, too mechanic at times. The only problem is that the current terminal is AUH is not that nice.

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  13. OT : Skopje and Ohrid airports in september, SKP i OHD : 106.164 (+21%)

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  14. Investicije na aerodromu "Nikola Tesla"
    http://www.beobuild.rs/read.php/618.html

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