Thursday, February 13, 2014

Adria denies Royal Jordanian partnership

Adria signs cooperation instead of codeshare agreement with Jordanian

Adria Airways has denied reports it has signed a codeshare partnership with rival Oneworld alliance member Royal Jordanian Airlines as originally reported by Slovenia’s national press agency “STA”, citing sources at the Jordanian national carrier. Original reports claimed Adria would place its “JP” designator code and flight numbers on Royal Jordanian services from Amsterdam, Frankfurt, Istanbul, Munich, Paris, Vienna and Zurich to Amman and vice versa with the codeshare partnership to be in place until the end of the year. However, Adria says it has signed a cooperation agreement with Royal Jordanian under which it will provide connecting flights to passengers between Ljubljana and Jordan via the abovementioned cities.

Adria Airways currently has codeshares in place only with its fellow Star Alliance members and non-alliance carriers. Partnering up with an airline from a rival alliance would have come as a surprise. Royal Jordanian, which handles over three million passengers annually, has had little to no presence in the former Yugoslavia’s since it last operated flights to the country prior to its breakup. However, in 2008, Jordanian was one of three companies to send in a bid for a 49% stake in B&H Airlines. The airline’s bid was ranked second with a mark of 32.2 out of 100, behind Turkish Airlines which subsequently won the tender procedure.

Adria says its cooperation agreement with the Jordanian national carrier "will enable customers to enjoy more flexible routing options and mix and match flights on both carriers for the most convenient scheduling and best pricing”. Next Monday Adria’s recently signed codeshare agreement with Air Serbia will come into force with the Slovenian carrier placing its flight numbers and codes on the Ljubljana - Belgrade service. Adria says, “This codesharing agreement confirms the good business relations between these two airlines. We anticipate expanding our cooperation during the summer timetable to also include several other interesting routes”.

36 comments:

  1. Had no idea Jordanian wanted to buy BH. Wonder how different it would have played out if they chose them instead of politically choosing Turkish. Also why hasn't Jordanian been interested in any other airline since them? It's not like BH is the biggest catch. What about Montenegro? or Adria for that matter.

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  2. OFF TOPIC. Airlines are striking back on Air Serbia expansion. Tarom starts 3 weekly OTP-ARN and Turkish 4 weekly VAR-IST in summer.......

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    1. It will affect the number of transit pax, but luckily Tarom would fly only 3pw, and via Istanbul people would have to change their direction when flying towards northern and western Europe, so this is not a disaster. But let's see.

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    2. YU-AON permamently removed from operations due to a major hull crack.

      Source - Air Serbia employees

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    3. It would be very funny if they are launching Stockholm because of Air Serbia... an airline they cooperate with and whose hub they are feeding with daily flights. lol

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    4. I doubt TAROM is launching that route with the intention of taking away passengers from JU. I think there is a market between OTP and ARN so they decided to launch the route.

      The VAR-IST flight is a little more suspicious. Luckily it is only four times a week, so it may not be too bad.

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    5. Not to mention that Istanbul is getting too crowded at this point. The whole place is starting to look like a jungle.

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    6. So Nemjee are you saying that I should avoid Ataturk if I'm flying to the east, and better to choose Etihad or some other airline/

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    7. Personally, I despise IST. I never transited there but I used it every time I went to Istanbul. It only gets worse as their passenger numbers increase.

      I heard Sabiha is really nice, so maybe Pegasus could be an option for you if you are travelling to the Middle East. Other than that I guess Qatar and Etihad are the best choices out of Belgrade. Personally I am not a big fan of Aeroflot but a lot of people use them when heading to China, Japan or Thailand.

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    8. Nemjee, what is the best way to get from North America (especially San Francisco or Vancouver) to BEG when considering flight cost and comfort?

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    9. ^Let me add that this is during the summer season.

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    10. Well, there isn't much choice when flying from north America to Belgrade. It always boils down to either flying via one of the Star Alliance hubs or eventually via CDG or AMS.
      From Vancouver the choice is even more limited as you can chose from either Amsterdam or Frankfurt. I would tell you to go via Amsterdam since you will be flying on Air Serbia to Belgrade... on board the A320. :)

      As far as San Francisco goes, go on either Swiss or Lufthansa. Swiss sends its A340 there while Lufthansa sends their A380 in summer. Both aircraft are quite interesting but I would rather chose the A340 as they are getting rarer by the day.

      Tip, avoid Air France and CDG at all cost!

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    11. Thanks Nemjee.
      Do you think that it is possible for JU to enter the long haul market? Can any new airline compete against the giants? I know Kondic said that he wants longhaul by 2016, but is it even possible for JU to make money by doing that? If they really wanted to do longhaul, why do they announce their intentions to other airlines? Wouldn't that give the other airlines a head start to prepare their responses?

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    12. Welcome.

      I do not think Air Serbia is anywhere close to having any long-haul flights. Not before 2020, that's for sure. It's not just about having the passengers or the fleet, it's also about having a decent hub which can sustain this growth. As Air Serbia grows, Belgrade airport needs to grow with it. Sure, we are at the very beginning now and we are still in the initial phases of the development but if things remain as they are then the situation will be considerably different next year. However, the C platform renovations are coming along nicely. I think they already fixed the area around the gate C6 and they are around C4 and C5 now. They are also changing the façade from the outside so the airport will look more modern now. For the time being, this extra space will help with increased passenger flow.

      Air Serbia is still undergoing restructuring and it will take at least a year before the airline can finish this process and consolidate its operations. One thing is for sure, without Etihad's involvement, Jat Airways would have been dead by now.

      However, Air Serbia has many interesting news coming your way soon so stay tuned. :)

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  3. OT: Adria again flew A320 to Sochi last night. Looks like Slovenian fans want to be present there for new medals and they want to see their hockey team playing against some of world's best teams :)

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    1. Looks like the return flight is diverted to Triest. Does anyone know the reason. There is fog at LJU airport but other take-offs and landings are going on smoothly. Could it be that old A320 (S5-AAS) is not equipped for CAT IIIb?

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    2. It could be. Current METAR: LJLJ 130930Z 16003KT 120V220 0250 R30/0300N FZFG VV002 M00/M00 Q1010 BECMG 1200 BR BKN003

      Looks like visibility 250m and vertical at 200ft. Freezing fog.

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    3. JP 00973 from Adler diverted to Trieste is now scheduled to depart from Trieste to Ljubljana at 11.20

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    4. Answer http://www.delo.si/novice/slovenija/letalo-iz-socija-zaradi-megle-najprej-v-trst.html

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  4. A320 (S5-AAS)

    flying coffin
    lol

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  5. OT: Turkish carriers should receive permits for summer charts from Serbia within 10-15 days. Within the same time we will learn about the miraculous return of JU to IST :)

    Source is confidential and, if possible, I would prefer comments based on aviation instead of expel-the-ambassador-and-declare-war-on-them.

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  6. OT: Air Croatia plane

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJLf8c0n2zQ&feature=share

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    1. is that B767 ?

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    2. Yep, its a B767-200! I am impressed!

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    3. Why B767, are they have so many seats booked they need a B767?

      I know Croatia in 2013 had a record number of Scandinavian tourists, around 500k, but many cake with SAS/OU/NAS and all with smaller aircraft, B737/A320.

      seeing B767 makes me wonder if this agency had great better bookings for 2014, leasing older B737 or A320 would be far cheaper than B767 which must be costing Air Croatia at least $2 million for 1 year lease.

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    4. Wow!
      I wonder if it was wet leased for only the summer months. I don't know what they would do with such a plane during the winter.

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    5. Maybe they plan on flying some other charter routes either from Sweden or maybe even from the Croatian coast? I could see them do that. Croatian tourist market is more than mature to have its own charter airline (again).

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    6. @Aleksandar StojanovicFebruary 13, 2014 at 6:21 PM

      of course its for summer months, well starting April (this is when tourist season starts in Croatia and ends in late October).

      April , May, September, October - podsezona this is when around 3 million visitors visit Croatia. and in full season another 9 million visitors visit Croatia.

      November - February is the quiet period when only 500 000 visitors visit the country,

      So most likely aircraft will be used from April to late October.

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    7. Why would they lease a plane that was previously in VIP configuration? Isn't a bit expensive to remove all those "things" from inside, just to put high density layout...

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    8. @AnonymousFebruary 13, 2014 at 7:11 PM

      A better question still, why would they sign a $2 million lease for B767 aircraft? Could be more ,could be 4$ million lease.

      Perhaps there's demand for seasonal flights to Croatia, I know SAS has loads of flights to Croatia, last summer SAS had 300+ flights to Croatia, this year they plan to have at least 350, than you have Norwegian with 500+ yearly flights to Croatia.

      Air Croatia might be just playing in to this market share, clearly they see the market potential on Croatian seaside and trying to capitalize on renewed interest for Croatia in Scandinavia.








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    9. I can't believe that they have 800+ flights and OU has none. There is something seriously wrong there.

      Again, with so many tourists every year OU has a huge advantage compared to all others and year after year they are failing to capitalize on it. Not that I'm big fan of OU but what a shame. I'm sure there are many Croats who could use a well paying airline job...

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  7. OT: Bye bye Croatia Airlines 9A-CTF

    https://www.facebook.com/AELSnews/photos/a.132645456795341.23734.109111109148776/644011005658781/?type=1&theater

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  8. What do Croats think of this? Propaganda or reasons to be worried?

    http://www.kurir-info.rs/putniku-puko-film-ministre-ko-je-lud-da-kupi-kroaciju-erlajnz-pa-avioni-prokisnjavaju-clanak-1228641

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  9. U komentarima na Air Serbia FB stranic jedan nas zemljak koji kaze da radi na YYZ pomenuo je da Air Canada Rouge je prosle sedmice predala zahtjev za 2x sedmični let YYZ-BEG. Neznam dali je ovo tačno ili ne ali ako saznam nešto više javiću.

    Prošle sedmice je neko pominjao ovdje nešto slično za ZAG tako da me to nebi iznenadilo.

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    1. Samo da vlasti to dozvole i bilo bi super. Vucic je tu koji se za sve pita, nazalost.

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