Thursday, June 18, 2015

SkyGreece evaluating possible regional expansion

SkyGreece Airlines prepares for Toronto - Zagreb flights

SkyGreece Airlines is preparing to launch flights between Toronto and Zagreb next Monday, linking the two cities for the first time in seven years. The charter carrier, which officially began operations a month ago by inaugurating services from Toronto to Athens, will operate its Zagreb flights with a Boeing 767-300ER aircraft. SkyGreece’s Regional Manager for Croatia, Mark Mocnaj, tells EX-YU Aviation News that the airline is expecting to handle over 4.500 passengers on the route during the summer. “We are on track to realise seventeen rotations for this year, for a total of just over 4.500 passengers, primarily from Canada to Croatia, with a mix of both VFR and Canadian leisure travel to Croatia”, Mr. Mocnaj says. Flights will operate until October 7.

SkyGreece Airlines is also evaluating the possibility of extending its services to Zagreb and even introducing flights to other cities in the region, though no firm decision has been made yet. “We are monitoring demand and evaluating the possibility of extending and renewing our service and frequencies for this year and next to possibly even include new routes to the region. This, however, will only be announced in Q4 of this year”, Mr Mocnaj tells EX-YU Aviation News. SkyGreece’s Commercial Manager for Ontario and Western Canada, Eleni Kessaris, says, “This is a historic moment for SkyGreece. We are very excited to commence the North American operation to Greece, Croatia, and Hungary. We look forward to welcoming everyone on board to experience our Greek hospitality from take off to landing”.


The Boeing 767-300ER aircraft, which will operate on the route, has the capacity to seat 274 passengers with 106 premium cabin seats. Some 150 of SkyGreece’s employees have come from Greece’s former national carrier Olympic Airways. SkyGreece has been issued all necessary permits for the new service by both Canadian and Croatian authorities. In addition to Zagreb, the airline already operates flights from Toronto to Athens via Montreal, as well as Thessaloniki and Budapest. The charter specialist has agreed on a joint marketing approach with the Croatian National Tourism Board in Canada in order to attract even more potential passengers. Individual bookings for the Zagreb flights can be made via the carrier's website. SkyGreece is a Greek-registered airline, founded by a group of Greek entrepreneurs, with its offices in Toronto, Montreal and Athens.

For further flight information on the upcoming Toronto - Zagreb service, click here.

71 comments:

  1. I am sure Athens-Chicago is high on their list. There are roughly 90.000 passengers per year between the two cities and there are currently no direct flights.

    If they ever launch Chicago flights, I hope they will add Belgrade to the list of their destinations. ATH-BEG-ORD could easily be operate three times per week. Unfortunately, I doubt that our Directorate would grant them the permit.

    For those interested, Delta carried almost 120.000 passengers last year between Athens and New York. This year they increased their flights to 12 weekly operated by a mix of A333s and B763s.

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    1. The demand on ATH-ORD (one way) will surely increase even more in near future

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    2. It might grow but only through increased tourism from the US.
      During the crisis, Greeks did not so much emigrate to the U.S. Most have gone to Turkey (Istanbul) and Australia.

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    3. They can route through Sofia. They've aggrement with Bulgaria's BH Air and they're going to use their A330 for the flights to NY-JFK.

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    4. ...the crisis in Greece is not yet over- they still need to officially go bancrupt

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  2. Good to hear they are doing well. Good luck to them :)

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  3. Mislim da će ipak zadržati letove za ZAG i BUD tijekom zime čisto zbog što boljeg LF a i u tekstu piše da o tome ozbiljno razmišljaju.

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  4. Good I hope they extend those flights to Zagreb. Interesting that most passengers are going from Canada to Croatia. I'm sure in October and November you could have it the other way around.

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  5. Did Skyservice use to sell individual tickets on the web? This is a major plus for Sky Greece.

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  6. Those seats look good actually. Anyone here booked a ticket with them?

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  7. W6 narucio 110 A321 Neo ! :)
    INN-NS

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    1. I konfiguraciju od 239 sedista ne daj boze ko mora da leti sa nijima u tim avionima.
      INN-NS

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    2. Verovatno planiraju bar nekoliko A321 da baziraju u BEG...

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    3. Barem deset...

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    4. Naj bolji plan odbrane bi bio
      16 A320 Neo
      8 A321 Neo
      8 ATR 72-600
      6 A359
      AVIOLET Flota
      4 A320Ceo ( Preuzeti od EY)
      2 A321 Ceo ( Preuzeti od EY)
      I nakraju pre uzeti 2 A332 od ASL kad budu dolazili A359 , ovo ce se ostvariti do 2025 ja mislim zbog napornog rada ljudi u kompaniji i van nje.
      INN-NS

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    5. Ok nice wet dream INN-NS, but something more realistic would be to predict Wizz expansion in the region. Wizz will receive 10 A320 and A321 this year only. I see them placing additional jets in the near future to Skopje and Tuzla bases. As for BEG nothing for now even thought they still operate full planes in and out

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    6. Prvo ce SKP a mozda i INI dobiti A321 Ceo u ex yu ja barem tako mislim sigurno planiraju neku ludu ekspanziju. Ali konfiguracija im je neprijatna.
      INN-NS

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    7. INI neće dobiti a321 sigurno. 1 eventualno 2 a320 ce biti stacionirani na INI-ju. videćemo kako se Basel i Malme pokažu. Ako bude dobro, može se očekivati Memingen i eventualno Ajndhoven. Za ASL i teslu bi bilo najbolje da low cost prebaci na INI dok će flag carrieri leteti sa tesle. To će neminovno dovesti do smanjenja putnika sa tesle, ali će se barem kristalisati situacija i zaštiti ASL. Što se tiče samog wizz-a, jesu jeftini-ali je udobnije voziti se Lastinim busom od njihovog aviona.

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    8. I do hope W6 expands the BEG base eventually and stimulates demand for Serbian passengers who cannot afford to fly with JU. Legacy fares into BEG are quite expensive and always have been.

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    9. Plan i jeste da se od INI napravi low cost baza za ovaj region.

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    10. "Za ASL i teslu bi bilo najbolje da low cost prebaci na INI dok će flag carrieri leteti sa tesle."

      It would be nice if in the near future Wizz does open a base in INI, however I really do not understand your logic behind wanting Wizz to leave BEG. Not only would BEG lose significant chunk of traffic but also for pax from Vojvodina and BEG it would be inconvenient to travel to Nis. Do you really think that people would travel from say Novi Sad to Nis to catch a Wizz flight? They would of course rather chose Timisiora or even BUD. I do not want to even go into how many times Belgrade market is larger than Nis one. Of course ASL would love Wizz to leave, but pax would lose the most.

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    11. I'm just following the model how is it being done in other airports and countries in Europe-where the main cities and airports are operated by major airlines while low cost comapnies are executing their operations from secondary airports. As you were mentioning people from Vojvodina, I think that the price of the flights would play significant role on their flights knowing the fact that wizz has the lowest expenses in INI probably in entire Europe (3EU per pax). If Serbian railways manage to do something about upgrading railway infrastructure, you can easily get from Novi Sad to Niš in 3 hours which is managable with this new Swiss trains that Serbian Railways acquired recently. Money is a great issue with Serbian people, for 50€ less they will be flying from INI rather than from BUD od Timisoara. I was myself flying with Wizz from SKP because the ticket was cheaper than flying from BEG.

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    12. "I'm just following the model how is it being done in other airports and countries in Europe-where the main cities and airports are operated by major airlines while low cost comapnies are executing their operations from secondary airports"
      In Western Europe that is usually the case and you are partially right, but in Eastern Europe I am not too sure about that. Wizz uses main airports in bigger cities and capitals such as BUD, OTP, SOF, WAW, and PRG. Even U2 uses CDG, LHR,FCO and AMS in addition to nearby airports.
      "If Serbian railways manage to do something about upgrading railway infrastructure"
      The new trains they got are decent and fast enough, but the infrastructure is terrible if you exclude areas around Belgrade. The railway company is in dire situation and unfortunately I doubt anything will change.
      ". Money is a great issue with Serbian people, for 50€ less they will be flying from INI rather than from BUD od Timisoara"
      I agree with that.

      Anyhow I still think Wizz will be able to sustain both BEG and INI bases if it decides to base an aircraft in INI.

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    13. Najlakse je to sto se tice doci do INI , W6 moze da napravi ugovor sa nekim prevoznikom sto ima dobre buseve da voze Nis-Beograd -Novi Sad.
      INN-NS

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    14. ,,In Western Europe that is usually the case and you are partially right, but in Eastern Europe I am not too sure about that. Wizz uses main airports in bigger cities and capitals such as BUD, OTP, SOF, WAW, and PRG. ''

      You are completely right, but look at the national airlines of those countries. They are fightng for their breath, while in the other hand ASL is still a new story which is being pushed to succeed by all means. We will see, I'm not representing every oppinion except that I'm from Niš and I would love to see planes ariving and departing on everyday basis from INI. :)

      ''The new trains they got are decent and fast enough, but the infrastructure is terrible if you exclude areas around Belgrade. The railway company is in dire situation and unfortunately I doubt anything will change.''

      Infrastructure and people that are running Serbia Railways are joke (surprise, surprise), but they are pushed by the Chineese to upgrade the railroad from Macedonina border all the way too Hungarian border, few days ago the funds are provided for rebuilding of Žeželj bridge in Novi Sad.

      ''Anyhow I still think Wizz will be able to sustain both BEG and INI bases if it decides to base an aircraft in INI.''

      Wizz will diging with their feet and hands to stay in Tesla and we will se the outcome of whole story. Wizz see their opening of flights from Niš as a favour to the governemnt and some kind of racketeering from the state regarding their stay on Tesla-while at the other hand governmant sees this as chance to push wizz away from Tesla. I doubt how this all is going to work out because Wizz now has three airports in radius of 200 kilometers where they operate their flights from (SKP, SOF, INI). Hopefully we will have a win-win situation where all parties and most importantly for the passengers.

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    15. ,,Najlakse je to sto se tice doci do INI , W6 moze da napravi ugovor sa nekim prevoznikom sto ima dobre buseve da voze Nis-Beograd -Novi Sad.
      INN-NS''

      Nema potrebe organizovati nikakav prevoz busevima do INI jer je INI udaljen manje od 3 km od glavne autobuske stanice, a za BG direktno idu busevi na svakih sat vremena. Najbolja opcija bi bila da se sredi pruga i da sa novim stadlerovim vozovima ljudi idu za BG i dalje. Pruga prolazi tik pored aerodroma, a i kraća je od autoputa za par desetina kilometara. Da je pruga u boljem stanju i da su ŽS sinhronizovane kako treba, BG-NI bi mogao da stiže za 1.5 sati.

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    16. Good Lord, are you seriously proposing for W6 to move its operations to Nis?! I guess none of you actually live in Belgrade.
      As someone who does, I believe it would be a disaster and thank God it will never happen.

      Do you honestly think that someone from Belgrade will go each time to Nis so as to catch a Wizz Air flight? No. If someone was after a cheap fare he will simply drive those 182 km to Timisoara and fly out. There are already mini-buses doing the run, just like there are with Budapest. BUD is another alternative as you can get a €45 (return) ride to the airport which is not that bad, especially given the choice of destinations out of the airport.

      Our local market is big enough to sustain both Air Serbia and Wizz Air, no need to push the low-cost out.
      I only use Wizz Air to Larnaca and I have to say that they are not that bad, even though I was not a fan at first. I was more than happy when they launched Larnaca flights as they forced Air Serbia to lower their fares from €350 to just €170. It was a disaster when Air Serbia took over the route from Jat. The fare went up from €240 to roughly €320-€350 and the flight times were changed which made them a very unappealing choice to fly. Today we can see that Wizz Air completely destroyed them in Cyprus where they are adding frequencies while Air Serbia is constantly downsizing their operations there.

      Cyprus and Larnaca are just one of the examples. There are others such as Paris and Beauvais, Amsterdam and Eindhoven, Copenhagen and Malmo... Wizz Air has to stay so that Air Serbia doesn't go crazy just like they are selling their Budapest and Sarajevo flights for €170.

      Nis will do well because it can cover southern Serbia and if they play their cards right, they can even become the cheaper alternative for western Bulgaria as I am sure INI is far cheaper than SOF.

      Some of you are forgetting that Ryanair flies out of Madrid, Barcelona, Athens, Dublin. EasyJet flies out of Copenhagen and Amsterdam. Vueling has numerous flights to the main airports out of its numerous bases so it's not only in eastern Europe that lowcost airlines use the primary airports.

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  8. Guys, I did some maths: according to the regional manager the airline expects just over 4,500 ZAG pax. They will do 17 ZAG rotations which means 34 flights. 4550/34= 134 passangers expected in average per flight. That equals a LF of 48,9% in their B763. As all their ZAG flights are an ATH-YYZ stopover they seem to anticipate more ZAG pax than ATH pax on those rotations. I do not think they plan 50/50 as to calculate with a LF of 97,8%!

    Another thing that catches my attention for sure is pricing! I can just say poor Croatians - or maybe they grant a large reduction for bacnkrupt Greek people!
    If you compare the return fares e.g. in August for same flights from ATH and if you only board in ZAG, then from ZAG you will have to pay around EUR 120-308 per pax more!

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    1. They have other flights to Canada, not just via Zagreb.

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  9. Is this the biggest story in ex-yu this year or doesn't it meet requirements??

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    1. 2015 is more than 6 months from being over

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  10. What happened to their plans to work with BH Air and could SkyGreece expand service to Bulgaria next year?

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    1. They will start flights to NY-JFK using BH Air's A330-200 starting from June 30. Probably they will start to fly 4X weekly. 2 SOF-ATH-NY-SOF and 2 ATH-SOF-NY-ATH

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    2. It will be slightly different. ZAG -JFK is almost done deal, too.

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  11. Its a Greek registered airline...
    So what effect could have a Greek Default on ist operations?
    I mean if Greece defaults on its foreign debt all businesses there will be affected immediately.

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    1. Not necessarily. Most Greek businesses keep their money abroad (something they can do as per EU rules, not like Serbian businesses which must keep their money in local banks).

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    2. Sky Greece is backed by Greeks from Canada and that's where the capital comes from.
      They are after Canadian Greeks heading back home for holidays, not the other way around.

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    3. Good to know .

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  12. OT: Zagreb new terminal pics

    http://i.imgur.com/E4sR3Qi.jpg?1

    http://i.imgur.com/1FrMdvC.jpg?1

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  13. Konacno je potpisan ugovor sa Pratt & Whitney i da se rese konacno JAT Tehnike.
    INN-NS

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    1. Ja ne mogu da verujem šta ti pišeš, čoveče?!

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    2. Šta sad to znači? Ko da se reši?

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    3. ASL ce se nadam se resitu JAT Thnike posto i onako samo pljuju ASL i ovde i napolju.
      INN-NS

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    4. Sve sto asocira na Jat mora da nestane, jer je Jat i dalje trn u oku gore potpisanom i njegovim mentorima.

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    5. Nije nikome trn posto bi nestala odavno da jeste.
      Nego radnici su mnogo ljubomorni pa pljuju previse radinici TehnikeASL i ako im daje za hleb samo zato mi je drago zbog ugovora sa P&W
      INN-NS

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    6. A koje motore koriste Airbusi ASL-a? Ja bih rekao RR

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    7. Kada pogledam bolje-korisnije je za JAT tehniku da nemaju posla sa ASL-om jer bi pare za održavanje videli juče. Ovako će dobijati redovno isplate za obavljene servise koje imaju sa Transaerom i sa Pegasusom. Biće plaćeni za svoj rad...

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    8. ,,In Western Europe that is usually the case and you are partially right, but in Eastern Europe I am not too sure about that. Wizz uses main airports in bigger cities and capitals such as BUD, OTP, SOF, WAW, and PRG. ''

      You are completely right, but look at the national airlines of those countries. They are fightng for their breath, while in the other hand ASL is still a new story which is being pushed to succeed by all means. We will see, I'm not representing every oppinion except that I'm from Niš and I would love to see planes ariving and departing on everyday basis from INI. :)

      ''The new trains they got are decent and fast enough, but the infrastructure is terrible if you exclude areas around Belgrade. The railway company is in dire situation and unfortunately I doubt anything will change.''

      Infrastructure and people that are running Serbia Railways are joke (surprise, surprise), but they are pushed by the Chineese to upgrade the railroad from Macedonina border all the way too Hungarian border, few days ago the funds are provided for rebuilding of Žeželj bridge in Novi Sad.

      ''Anyhow I still think Wizz will be able to sustain both BEG and INI bases if it decides to base an aircraft in INI.''

      Wizz will diging with their feet and hands to stay in Tesla and we will se the outcome of whole story. Wizz see their opening of flights from Niš as a favour to the governemnt and some kind of racketeering from the state regarding their stay on Tesla-while at the other hand governmant sees this as chance to push wizz away from Tesla. I doubt how this all is going to work out because Wizz now has three airports in radius of 200 kilometers where they operate their flights from (SKP, SOF, INI). Hopefully we will have a win-win situation where all parties and most importantly for the passengers.

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    9. Wizz is doing a favor to by flying from INI? Can you show me how much will Wizz have to pay to INI for the next 3 years, and how much will INI and the city have to invest in required airport infrastructure over the same period? My guess: INI will have to hand over 10-20 times more than Wizz. Who is doing a favor here?

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  14. http://www.vesti-online.com/Vesti/Srbija/499666/Amerikanci-nece-Er-Srbiju

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    1. Sve ili skoro sve sto u clanku pise sam pisaoovde bar 5 puta i uvek su me INN-NS i njemu slicni zbog toga ispljuvali, i pitali zbog cega patoloski mrzim Er Srbiju, sa jedinim, ili skoro jedinim argumentom da "premijer ne laze". Pa, eto, voleo bih sada da ih cujem.

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    2. To su zlurade spekulacije, vreme ce pokazati.

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    3. Taj portal je isti kadar kao i BN koji samo sire ne istine ako nesto dobro uradi vladajuca stranka.
      Svako ko poznaje i obicnog radnika u ASL neka se slobodno raspita o letovima i videce ko prica istinu.
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    4. Ta vest nema ni trunke pravog istaživačkog novinarstva i to je samo prepakovan hejt iz komentara sa avio sajtova. Mnogo argumentovanih i stručnih negiranja tih laži je već bilo na ovom sajtu ali ima ljudi koji i dalje žele da veruju u gluposti.

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    5. Naravno da su protiv, oni su protiv svakog oblika konkurencije-osim ako se ne udruže sa nekim kroz alijanse...

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    6. INN-SNS throwing toys out of his pram again........

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    7. "Er Srbija nema ni širokotrupne avione, ni školovanu posadu za erbase A330 na kojima se saobraćaj bazira"

      Raspad logike. Kako tvrdi da se saobraćaj bazira na A330 ako u istoj rečenici kaže da ih nemaju? Ako imaš gugl znaš da avioni unutar Etihad alijanse menjaju mesta, tako su dva Etihad A319 prefarbana u er Srbija boje i posle preregistrovana sa A6 na YU. Nedavno su A330 na sličan način došli u Alitaliju. Tako mogu i A330 doći u Er Srbiju. Posada nije školovana za A330, a imaju A320? Da se novinar obratio Erbasu sa pitanjem koliko treba posadi da se prebaci sa 320 na 330, Erbas media kontakt bi se lepo nasmejao i objasnio jadnom novinaru da to nije nikakav problem. Ako to ne znaš ili ne možeš da saznaš odustani od novinarstva, nije za tebe.

      "Vlasti SAD praktično blokiraju Er Srbiju jer je smatraju kompanijom koja (kao i njen pravi vlasnik Etihad) uživa nedozvoljenu državnu pomoć"

      Neko ko misli da bude novinar potrudio bi se na navede izvor tako ozbiljne informacije. Ni gugl nije mogao da mi nađe takvu informaciju iz 2014 ili 2015 godine, pa će biti da nije istinita. Osim toga, Etihad ima istu vlasničku strukturu od 49% u Alitaliji pa Alitalija ne samo da svakodnevno leti za Ameriku nego objavljuje planove da se tamo proširi. Zar je novinaru bilo teško da proveri da li Etihad direktno, dakle ne preko Beograda, nesmetano leti za Ameriku? Opet poraz logike i novinarstva.

      Naslov kaže: "Amerikanci neće Er Srbiju", u tekstu stoji: "Da li će Etihad i Er Srbija uspeti da polete za SAD s početkom zimskog reda letenja, ili u proleće 2016. ostaje da se vidi". Čekaj, naslov kaže da neće Er Srbiju, a ova druga rečenica mi kaže da je samo pitanje KADA će poleteti, a ne DA LI će poleteti? Autor protivreči samom sebi.

      "Pojedini stručnjaci ističu da bi letovi za Ameriku proizveli poslovni slom i podsećaju da u istočnoj Evropi samo Poljska i Rusija imaju letove nacionalne kompanije ka SAD"

      Koji su to stručnjaci, zar nemaju ime za novine? Možda nisu nikakvi stučnjaci, jer im je izjava netačna. Leti Turkiš iz Istambula, lete Ukrajinci UIA iz Kijeva, leti SkyGreece iako nije nacionalna kompanija... sve zajedno sramota za novinarstvo.

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    8. Uuuu, ala rade botovi kad im se "dirne u svetinju"

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    9. Is that the best comeback you have? When someone beats you with arguments you just say it's "the bots"? What a loser!

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    10. Hahahahaha!!! "Beats you with arguments" What arguments. Of course Google shows no source for real boss in JU, because everything connected with the deal is not transparent, as in any other corruptive affair which leaves no trace, deliberattely. Comparing Poland, Russia, Turkey, Ukraine, countries with 50-150 million people with Serbia, is insane, not an argument. If something happened with AZ, it doesn't mean it will happen with JU, too, so it's not a valid argument as well. It's US side which gives permissions, not Serbian side, so you don't have argument here as well. But you bots are masters of making propaganda and calling it arguments. So, you see, I can do better. Satisfiied now?

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    11. Arguments were made in the newspaper article and were shown in that comment to be incorrect, lacking citation or sources and factually wrong.
      You picked AZ, if it happens with AZ it doesn’t mean it will happen with JU. Comment above already shows it already happened with two A6 registered A319, so if it did happen with them it is very likely to happen with A330. You just ignored the fact A6 -> JU plane transfer did happen. Your fail #1.
      Training for A330: I already debunked that myth, you failed to acknowledge that misleading sentence in the article. Fail #2.
      Vlasti SAD blokiraju Er Srbiju and “It's US side which gives permissions, not Serbian side, so you don't have argument here as well”. Show me the evidence, link to a site etc where they block Air Serbia. Keep in mind that old DoT decision was based on (irrational) codeshare via AUH and then with Air Berlin, NOT for direct flights. If anything, evidence shows that since then US gave Serbia FAA Cat I and signed OpenSkies bilateral with Serbia, proof that US permissions for direct flights are being given to Serbia, which is completely opposite from your statement and that article. Your fail #3.
      I pointed out that article’s headline and sentence in the text are conflicting. Valid argument about bad quality of the article and you completely avoided that topic. Fail #4.
      “Comparing Poland, Russia, Turkey, Ukraine, countries with 50-150 million people with Serbia, is insane, not an argument.” You are trying to switch the topic, comparing them is figment of your imagination. Comparing them was not in the article, however this was: “Pojedini stručnjaci ističu da bi letovi za Ameriku proizveli poslovni slom i podsećaju da u istočnoj Evropi samo Poljska i Rusija imaju letove nacionalne kompanije ka SAD". I proved that newspaper statement was false and showed arguments (Turkish, UIA) to prove it. You failed to address that, your fail #5.
      “But you bots…”. I can’t be any further from any kind of bot, so I challenge you to prove that I am a “bot”. Just because I have no tolerance for lies in that article doesn’t make me a bot. That will be your fail #6.
      In the end I can do much better than you will ever be able to do. That newspaper “article” will never pass strict journalistic criteria of respectable media like the New York Times or Washington Post.

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    12. This is not the blog about journalism, but about civil aviation. I didn't comment newspaper article, but the airline company that newspaper writes about. And another masterwork of bots is shifting attention form the topiic, which is POOR CHANCE THAT JU STARTS NORTH AM FLIGHTS, to evaluation of journalistc technics and skills. Fullstop.

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    13. This thread started with a link to a newspaper article about aviation and comments were about the article. You can make comments in other threads, this one is clearly about the article. When out of arguments, you are again trying to switch topic, what a loser.

      You again failed to respond to my claims, calling me bot again without any proof. Major fail. Game over.

      Back in the summer of 2013 this blog had many comments (just like yours) that predicted Air Serbia would never get off the ground, that Airbus planes would never come, that horrible JAT onboard service will never improve and so on. Cowards that posted those hate comments never had guts to come back and apologize for being wrong. Same fate awaits your sorry comment above when Air Serbia starts flying to the USA.

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    14. I was not one of those claiming that Air Serbia would never get off, that Airbus planes would never come, that horrible service would not improve. I was one of those claiming that all of the stated has been done with SERBIAN TAXPAYERS MONEY. Bottomline, and connection with todays's article/thread : JU would not begin US flights; EITHER because they don't depend of the will of the Prime Minister of Serbia, but of the FAA approval/ OR, because IF EVER STARTED, and approvals obtained, those flights would be financed by even BIGGER Serbina taxpayers money. And yeah, right, you're not bot

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    15. "They won't start, maybe they will, and you are a bot" You can't beat any of the arguments so you are just repeating same thing. We covered it all.

      You sound like someone who worked for JAT and got kicked out by Air Serbia so you just hate them. It must be sad living in your world. Cut the hate and move on, it will be better for your health.

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    16. Typical bot : everyone who doesn't agree with him/ his Perty/ his Leader, is hater, is ex-JAT worker, is sick, is living in sad world. On the other hand, he is so high, so powerful, so enlightened, so clever, and can judge that the airline in question is successful, profitable, and with bright future, which is,in reality, of course, absolutely opposite. But anyone here who dares thinking and saying something else, or just backing up people, or in this case newspspers saying something different are losers, are stupid and so on. BOT. BOT. BOT. And yes, I did work for JAT, but not Jat Airways. I worked for Jugoslovenski Aerotransport more than 20 years ago. Nobody fired me, I left, and I live abroad now, and WORK in civil aviation. I'm not hater, I'm just sad that the ONLY airline company in Serbia today is so small, insignificant and above all, CORRUPT, and even more sad that whole little army of people are organized to defend such "sucesful buisness" in all media.

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    17. And you can write till tommorow if you want, 10 more posts how ASL is perfect, and starting Us and China, and whatever with 380, not 330, but that was from me. No more. Cheers!

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    18. You can believe that JU will never fly to the USA and write what you want here as long as you follow Ex Yu admin rules, but newspaper has more responsibility when publishing an article with false statements.

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  15. They're starting the flights to NY-JFK on 30 June 2015 using BH Air's only A330-200. Here is the official announcment.
    http://www.skygreece.com/OurCompany/OurFleet/Airbus330-200LZ-AWA

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