Tuesday, October 13, 2015

Winter 2015/16
Air Serbia

Air Serbia's winter sees network cutbacks

The 2015/16 winter season begins on Sunday October 25, with Air Serbia set to make cuts to its network. The Serbian carrier will be reducing its number of departures to many destinations, primarily in western Europe. Routes that will be affected include Amsterdam, Banja Luka, Berlin, Brussels, Copenhagen, Frankfurt, Milan, Moscow, Paris, Stockholm, Stuttgart, Thessaloniki, Warsaw, Zagreb and Zurich. As announced earlier, the airline's daily flight to Budapest and three weekly service to Larnaca will be suspended. Moscow will sustain the biggest reduction in frequencies, with Air Serbia to slash five of its flights on the route during most of the winter season - from twelve to seven weekly. Amsterdam will be reduced from ten weekly to daily flights, while Stuttgart, which was once served once per day, will now operate four times per week. Services to Frankfurt and Berlin will be reduced from seven weekly departures to six, while Brussels and Milan will run five times per week. The Belgrade - Zagreb route, launched last winter season with double daily flights, will shed one morning and one evening service over the weekends and will now operate twelve times per week instead. Zurich and Paris will also be affected, with the popular routes now operating thirteen, instead of fourteen times per week. Several additional flights to the Swiss city will operate during the first week of January.

As was the case last year, the reduction in flights excludes the busy lead-in and the immediate aftermath to the Christmas and New Year holidays. The majority of services between mid-December and mid-January will operate at similar levels to that of last winter season. Previously, Air Serbia's CEO, Dane Kondić, said, "Air Serbia continuously evaluates its network to ensure it is in line with passenger demand and is commercially sustainable. These decisions will enable us to place greater focus on key areas of the business that demonstrate the strongest potential for sustained long-term growth". Beirut and Tirana will receive a boost in the number of operated flights this winter. The service to the Lebanese capital will now operate four times per week, instead of last year's three, with an additional fifth weekly flight to be added between mid-December and mid-January. Furthermore, services to Tirana will run five times per week instead of last year's three. Flights to Abu Dhabi, Athens, Dusseldorf, Podgorica, Prague, Rome, Sarajevo, Sofia, Skopje, Tel Aviv and Tivat remain unchanged when compared to last winter season. Services to Ljubljana increased to twelve per week mid-way through last winter (fourteen during the peak holiday months) and remain unchanged this season too.

The 2015/16 winter season runs until March 26, 2016. Please note that the changes listed below are preliminary and based on current availability in the Global Distribution System (GDS). EX-YU Aviation News will be bringing you winter season changes for each national carrier in the former Yugoslavia by the end of next week. In the meantime, you can also review planned modifications made by Adria Airways.


DestinationFrequency
W14/15
Frequency
W15/16
ChangeNotes
Abu Dhabi77--
Amsterdam107▼ 3-
Athens77-10 flights from
DEC19 - JAN16
Banja Luka431-
Beirut34 15 flights from
DEC19 - JAN16
Berlin76▼ 17 flights from
DEC19 - JAN16
Brussels75▼ 26 flights from
DEC20 - JAN16
Bucharest77--
Budapest70▼ 7-
Copenhagen74▼ 36 flights from
DEC17 - JAN12
Dusseldorf77--
Frankfurt76▼ 1-
Istanbul77--
Larnaca30▼ 3-
Ljubljana1212-14 flights from
DEC20 - JAN17
London - Heathrow77--
Milan65▼ 1 -
Moscow127▼ 511 flights from
DEC18 - JAN18
Paris1413▼ 114 flights from
DEC20 - JAN17
Podgorica2121--
Prague1010--
Rome66-7 flights from
DEC22 - JAN12
Sarajevo77--
Sofia77--
Skopje77--
Stockholm54▼ 16 flights from
DEC19 - JAN16
Stuttgart74▼ 36 flights from
DEC19 - JAN16
Tel Aviv44--
Tirana352-
Tivat77--
Thessaloniki54▼ 16 flights from
DEC21 - JAN18
Vienna1414--
Warsaw64▼ 2-
Zagreb1412▼ 214 flights from
DEC19 - JAN17
Zurich1413▼ 1-

161 comments:

  1. Those Banja Luka flights seem to reduce every season be it summer or winter.

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    1. Only three times per week to Belgrade during the 2105/2016 winter season is a result of the current, but long-term, BNX Managing Board. There is no any other airline serving the airport. No any other destination. What incapable guys! By the way, instead of new lines, they have introduced corruption and have grown it to a huge proportion.

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    2. It's been raining the whole day now at BNX. Technical garage converted into a makeshift cold storage and the very big technical garage canopy that was closed using some huge sheet metal panels filled with polyurethane foam are both kept empty. On the other side, the aerodrome equipment that was thrown out of the garage in the early spring and left outside on a technical platform is standing in the rain. What a shame! Complete BNX Managing Board should be immediately dismissed from the airport operator together with the complete Supervisory Board. They are a bunch of idiots!

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  2. Pretty much the same as last year if you take into account that they pre-cancelled many flights last winter. For example BRU was scheduled to be operating 7 p/w but in January they cancelled many flights to BRU for February and March period. Overall, I'm glad they realized that it takes time and energy to build up a network and that you can't start with megalomic plans. Start slow and build up your network over the years, boost the LF and profitability and then think about boosting frequencies.

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  3. Thanks for publishing these planned changes each year for all the airlines

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  4. Another good reason why ASL should have RJs.

    They are very important for airlines operating the hub-and-spoke model.

    It is the only way that ASL could maintain yields, loads, and high frequency year round.

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    1. Mr Stojanovic, I do agree the way you view Air Serbia fleet. Obviously to own RG and maybe few of small commuter aircrafts will be solve lot of seasonal capacity problems. Establishment of local commuter air traffic will be right direction for Serbia, to ute lays few domestic and neighbouring states. Thankyou to using full name. Not many people is not on this forum/ blog, who is writing there own name. Only five days left, from a second anniversary raising to our national carrier.
      Rodney & Team of AIR SERBIA fan✈✈✈. Kraljevo✈Sydney.

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    2. Thanks Rodney.

      Cityjet of Ireland has today announced their order for 15 Sukhoi Superjets.

      This may be the ideal aircraft for ASL because they can then have an aircraft with about 65-70% of the capacity of a A319 while still being able to offer:

      -Better passenger comfort compared to other RJs.
      -More range than most other RJs.
      -Quicker availability than new Embraers.
      -More cargo capacity than many other RJs.
      -Lower purchase price than other RJs.
      -Maintenance and support is close by (Venice).

      I heard that the Russian government is teaming up with their bank to offer very inexpensive credit or leasing options.

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  5. I am surprised that IST is not affected at all,while for instance CPH,STR and ARN all went to 4 pw...also is it possible that there is not enough pax for a daily flights to MXP?

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    1. IST does very well. Both Turkish and Air Serbia now have loads of Turkish tourists who come for 2-3 days. They don't need visas and the only thing they do is shop. There are a lot of agencies in Turkey who sell city breaks for Belgrade.

      As for Italy it is hugely seasonal (like Scandinavian routes). Remember that even Wizz Air and Easy Jet could not sustain flights to Rome and these were suspended before Air Serbia came around.

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  6. Wow, those reductions are massive!

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    1. Ah yes. "ALL FLIGHTS DELAYED, ALL FLIGHTS DELAYED" does not do the job anymore so we will try "MASSIVE REDUCTIONS, MASSIVE REDUCTIONS". Good strategy!

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    2. Anon 10:03
      Down with reality!

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    3. The reductions are barely worth a mention, let alone massive. Wow, going from 14 to 13 weekly will really hurt the company. It's obvious these moves are aimed to improve LF.

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    4. 13% fewer flights are "barely worth a mention"?
      LOL, that is INN-NS talking?

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    5. It is winter season.

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    6. Is this year's winter colder than last season?

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    7. Anonymous at 3:28 PM
      +1 :D

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    8. Yes they except more snow this winter season becouse El Ninjo. Ne mogu toliko da rade sa grtalicama.

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    9. Is it going to be 13% colder than last winter?
      Because JU is reducing it's flights by that much.

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    10. Smrznuce vam se vnogo kad budu objavili LF.

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    11. I lough with it's profits, RASM and most of all with the competitors taking over it's market.

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  7. I don't get the logic of people who claim that reduced schedule will increase the loads, at least not with connecting passengers. Their only hope are the local ones.

    If I am a Greek person wanting to fly to Copenhagen. Last winter I had daily flights, that is daily connections. This year I will have just four which is horrible. But JU's competition will offer a great number of frequencies, that is a greater number of seats, which in theory should mean cheaper fares and more flexibility.

    In other words, JU's winter timetable will make them less competitive on the international arena. Those who might find this appealing are those who will be flexible with their dates just to chase the cheapest fare around- and those passengers are not loved by any airline.

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    1. Fully agree with your logic. The convenience of me transferring via Beg has deteriorated. For the business travel this is not the greatest

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    2. +1
      The new lounge, the business seats and the Wi-Fi will be used by business passengers. And to them frequencies to fly to their meetings when they need to are far more important than things like metal cutlery and porculan dishes.

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    3. Gentlemen, let's not take it as a coincidence that Beirut is the only major (A320) destination seeing an increase this winter. That tells enough about the potential of the Eastern destinations and their importance for the network balance overall. While reflecting some limited wisdom and prudence here and there, this is mainly what the winter network tells us about:

      - Network still completely imbalanced by the fact that over 70% of destinations are to Western Europe. They accused OU of that but with JU the problem is even bigger. You don't connect pax from AMS to CDG via BEG.

      - South-East Europe with exception from Greece and Romania (due to its high population) unable to feed a Western network even on this scale coupled with very low-yields from the surrounding countries. Turkey absent from the picture cause of the absence of night flights to Istanbul and thereby of connectivity to a number of destinations. Even if IST is "doing well", it could do much better. Destinations such as KIV still not covered and not even in the plans.

      A line to Spain is also needed in order to boost the lines to Romania, Bulgaria and Moscow which is reduced to an abhorrent and abstract 7 per week.

      - No network reaction from Air Serbia to the banning of Russian airlines from Ukraine by opening Kiev or Odessa by Atr (most of pax on Aeroflot surprisingly connected to Europe), neither to the imminent Iranian opening that airlines such as A3 or PS didn't loose time to place the right bet on. Complete lethargy by the management in this regard.

      - Warsaw is a disaster, i see it as the next line being cut next winter season once LOT returns. AUH staying the way it is, it's a positive sign they were able to improve the figures.

      - The ME3 method of ripping O&D passengers (from rich Gulf states) while allowing the transit ones to get reasonable if not sometimes ridiculous fares subsidised by the first doesn't work in Belgrade. Three day promotions of different destinations each weak (Friday, Saturday, Sunday) not enough and can't replace the constant affordable if not reasonable fares for the local population, Air Serbia has branded itself as an expensive carrier and Serbs will stay away from it, Wizz will grow again and rightfully so.

      While the ME3 can allow themselves to place the greatest focus on the transit passenger and disregard the local ones, Air Serbia has to do the other way around, at least until its network grows to a scale of a real transfer airline (most of capital cities/regional centres within 2.000-3.000 kilometres covered).

      - Another mistake of porting the ME3 model - fleet unadapted for the purpose. The absence of regional jets seriously hurting the airline. JU's fleet should look like a mix of LOT and UIA modes albeit on a smaller scale. A319 could have justified itself only in the case of large presence of cargo on flights to say LCA or EVN (long light-load routes) if it was to be opened but that so far ain't happening.

      I won't repeat everything that was said by the poster down-bellow.

      - Biggest problem and hardest to solve: internal forces within the company that didn't allow this to happen.

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    4. You have nightmare dreams within 3000 km. No one planed such ASL. Also Spain. No enough passengers from Serbia no transfer p. from Spain. And this plan is just one from last year without canceling flights.

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    5. Why not?

      http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=&R=1864nm%40BEG&MS=wls&MX=540x540&PM=*

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    6. Great post from Aэrologic !

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    7. No money for 3000 km. It does not fit in so called waves from BEG and nothing on south coast of Mediterranean see. You should look airports up to 1200 km beside big airports like London, Moscow. It is like 10 airports more. Nice, Lyon, Chisinau, Ancara, Venice Treviso, Pristina, Innsbruck, Krakow, Odesa, jos jedan u Rumuniji i Zadar. recimo tri svaki dan a ostali 3 do 4 puta nedeljno/

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    8. It it doesn't fit in the current waves but it doesn't mean you can't create new ones. How does AUH fits in the waves or should it be cancelled altogether? That doesn't stand for an argument. Within 1200km you also have Kiev, Odessa, Ankara that are all being conveniently ignored, we don't know for what purpose.

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    9. INN je odavno mogao biti profitabilan za ASL ali iz nekih ne poznatih razloga se ignorise tu AB sa Azijatama koji dalje idu preko AUH kupi odlicne pare ali se i dalje ignorise mozda zbog dobrih odnosa na liniji VIE-BEG.
      INN-NS

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    10. There is no money for 3.000 kilometers, but there is money to loose it at the speed they are doing it right now?

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    11. Zasto ponavljas aerodrome koje sam ja pomenuo? Da li si toliko retardiran da ne shvatas da AUH ne prati tzv talase? Izmedju ostalog sto je predaleko. Da li ti imas novca da ulozis u aviokompaniju osim ovih koje placas kao poreski obaveznik?

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    12. Da li treba da ti se ponovi da je auditor potvrdio profit pusti Purgera i drkadzije sa ovog bloga

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    13. Pa zasto onda ti drugi ne bi mogli da prate te iste talase?

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    14. Not even Vučić believes that JU is profitable!

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    15. If there is no money within the current range so why not look at it from beyond? Sam si retard.

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    16. Zato sto su ti aerodromi predaleko.

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    17. Koliko sam ja upoznat, A319/A320 imaju range da lete za te aerodrome tako da ako je nesto predaleko to je onda u tvojoj glavi. xoxo

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    18. Ti idiote ne pratis politiku ASL moze sa A320 preko Islanda i do Amerike da letis.

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  8. OT
    OS radi vezebe Preko PUY sa B772 posto neki prelaze sa A320 i B763 na B772.
    INN-NS

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    1. Ovo mora da nije istina? Kad si tu da te pitam sta bi sa onim ATR-on sto dolazi?

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    2. Ista osobo ja sam jos juce objasnio neke stvari .
      Pa eto znate moje ime sto se sad vi ne predstavite da znamo dalje :)
      INN-NS

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    3. Sačuvaj me bože INN-NSOctober 13, 2015 at 11:52 AM

      Eto ja se potpisah sa imenom.

      INN-NS što bi sa onim ATR-om koji će doć. Jel to isto ko i A330 za Peking - Kasper avion. Niko ga ne vidi osim tebe?

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    4. Gospodo A330 kao sto znamo ce doci , trebao je doci jos jedan ATR ali mozda ne dodje .
      INN-NS

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    5. Sačuvaj me bože INN-NSOctober 13, 2015 at 12:39 PM

      Trebao je doći A330 pa nije, a možda i dođe sa godinu "zakašnjenja"!

      Trebao je doći još jedan ATR a možda i ne dođe!

      Neće biti rezanja u zimskom redu letenja, ali eto ipak ih ima i ogromna su.

      Air Serbia je profitabilna, no da nema 71 milion EUR subvencija bila bi 68 miliona u gubicima, ali to se sada ignorira!

      Aerodrom Beograd je profitabilan ali zato što mu je Srbija uplatila deo subvencije 29.12.2014. a ostatak od 2,1 milijardu dinara u 2015. koje je dobar deo vratio kroz dividendu. Znači nije profitabilan od poslovanja nego od kreativnog knjigovodstva. I ovo ignoriraš.

      Sine, jesi li naučio lekciju?

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    6. I ako jeste tako videli su jbg od CTN a nije tako nemate dokaze nego su oba dva preduzeca profitabilna sto je ptvrdila Svetska Knjigovodstvena Agencija.
      INN-NS

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    7. Ista ta agencija koja je prikrivala prihode i rashode velikim naftnim firmama. ;)

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    8. Pa vi ste toliko pismeni svaka cast sce znate bez dokaza crno na belo samo jekiz radi.

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    9. Sačuvaj me bože INN-NSOctober 13, 2015 at 1:44 PM

      INN ne lupaj. Oni su potrvrdili da je Air Serbia u prihodima imala 71 milion EUR. Nisu nigde napisali da je to prihod od subvencije države. On je prihod! Detaljnim isčitavanjem financijskog izveštaja vidi se da je to novac od države. Da ga nema Air Serbia bi bila debelo negativna. Isto tako je i sa Croatiom. Da nema PSO i da nisu prodali avion i motor bili bi negativni. Prodaja aviona i motora nije dobra stvar za firmu, ali je legalna. PSO je legalan oblik subvencije. No, ovaj oblik koji se daje Air Serbiji je nelegalan. Nažalost Air Serbia nema domaćih linija da može opravdati PSO.

      A što je sa ATR i A330?

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    10. Što se čekalo sa objavom izvešaja 6 meseci?

      Upravo zato da se ne vidi kako je 71 milion državnih subvencija pravdan kao prihod, a bez čega bi Air Serbia bila 68 miliona u minusu.

      Duplo većem nego što ga je imao Jat.

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    11. INN-NS owned and bitch slapped at the same time!

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    12. Wow, you owned an underage kid. You must be proud of your aviation expertise.

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  9. Ovo su racionalne odluke ASL-a, medjutim one ukazuju na probleme koji su dosta dugo negirani na ovom blogu.

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    1. Not enough passengers paying fares high enough for the airline to grow profitably.

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  10. Ovo je ok sto se tice zimskog reda letenja, mada bi im bilo bolje da se posvete nekim drugim destinacijama koje bi punile kabinu i zimi sa 3,4 pw. Vec mesecima mnogi pisu ovde koji bi to aerodromi mogli da budu. Cak bi i inn sa jednim atr-om mogao sa 3pw seasonaly mogao biti isplativ. Da ne pricam o bcn ili ham. Pa cak i neki lowcost aerodrom mozda. Zao mi je sto bnx nikako da se isplati ni sa konstantnom cenom od 50ak evra za rt vec mesecima. Str ce verovatno i od naredne letnje sezone opasti kada viz poleti za karlsruhe. I ono sto me najvise cudi jeste mxp. Kako je moguce da ne mogu jedan dnevni let da odrze tokom citave godine?? U asl-u je potrebno da se osveste i vide u cemu je zapravo problem..

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  11. ASL needs regional aircraft!
    It can not be expected to offer passengers and espesially high paying passengers the frequensies that they desire and fill A320s at the same time.
    It needs RJs to fly to airports like Kiev, Barcelona, Geneva, Thessaloníki, Larnaka, Budapest, Stockholm, Saint Petersburg, Yerevan, Tbilisi, Cairo.
    Is also needs them to increase frequencies on it's existing routes.

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    1. Za Kairo, Tbilisi, Jerevan sa RJ? Da li ste vi normalni?

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    2. LOT is doing it.

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    3. So, who is not normal, airlines that are flying there or airlines announcing cuts to the likes of ARN, CPH and MXP to 4-5 weekly?

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    4. Nije normalan niko ko leti iz Beograda za Tbilisi i Jerevan sa RJ. A oni su i dalje nego od Beograda. Oni planiraju taj let samo tri dana u nedelji propasce aaaaa nista od biznismena iz tih gradova aaaaa. RJ su za svakodnevne krace linije koje ne mogu da popune uskotrupne jetove.

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    5. LO se sa tom taktikom oporavio i vratio u plus to isto rade i neke Americke kompanije i naprimer OS takodje .
      AY je pre nekoliko godina slao za INN E190 a sad salju A320.
      INN-NS

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    6. U zimskoj sezoni?

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    7. Embraer 170/75-190/95s and also CRJ 700 and 900s are ideal for the destinations that Anon. 11:36 mentions!
      In North America those aircraft are flying even longer distances.
      I would add to the above destinations also AMM, Alexandria, AYT, ESB, HAM, DUS, HER.

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    8. Exactly. Air Canada Seattle-Toronto with E190. Best International flight ever.

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    9. Completely out of ASL ROI.

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  12. 35 flights or 13% reduction!!!! Huge!!!!

    Air Serbia FAIL!

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  13. I personally did not expect the reductions to be so big.

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    1. +1 for you
      -13% fro JU!

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    2. It seems to me people on here have a 0 airline knowledge. I am working in the airline bussines for the last 18 years and the winter cuts in schedule departures are to expected and normal. As Europe is not close to Caribbean island we can not expect for them to transfer the bussy summer operation to some hot spots like they do in North America. The 13% cut is totally OK an below average . They can cut under 20% and that is still OK. Wonder why people here would not educate them self's instead of posting non sense? Thank you

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    3. Funny that someone with 18 years of experience wrote such a lame reply. JU's summer schedule was already modest, minimal. With all these reductions and suspensions they have butchered their connectivity making themselves unattractive when passengers are booking flights.

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    4. Nenad Radujkovic I pity your employer!
      13% reduction is compared with last winter's schedule, not this summer's.

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    5. Let me right again for you Nenad: 35 less flights a week or 13% less flights compared with last winter!

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    6. Nenad is on high... I pitty his employer :D

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    7. Correction, it is not 35 less flights a week but 35 less frequencies.
      It is 70 less flights a week.

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  14. Zasto se zimi ukida linija Dubrovnik i Split? 2-3 puta nedeljno sa ATR bi bio dovoljan da se i ta ruta odrzi preko zimske sezone!

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    1. Split sa dva leta tjedno (petak-ponedjeljak) i Dubrovnik sa tri leta tjedno bi imali šanse cijele godine.

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    2. Sačuvaj me bože INN-NSOctober 13, 2015 at 12:18 PM

      Ne bez dumpinga! A za dumping se više nema para!

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    3. Ne lupetaj. Dogovoricemo sa dubrovackm gradonacelnikom subvencije he he.

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  15. glavno da je Vucic najavio letove za SAD :)

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  16. Admin, most of the winter season ASL will perform 18w flights to TGD, 11w to LJU and 6w to TIV. You should have noticed that, ASL has recently cancelled some flights which earlier had been scheduled.

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  17. Koliko ja vidim statistiku ovo je jednak broj letova koje je imao i Jat zimi.

    Samo je Jat dobiovao manje subvencije (odnosno dugovi su mu bili manji nego što Air Serbia sada dobiva subvencija).

    Znači danas Air Serbia košta porezne obveznike više za isti broj letova.

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    1. The Emperor has no clothes on.

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    2. +1 a ono što je golo je stvarno jadno!

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  18. 71 milion EUR subvencija države Air Serbiji
    - 2,7 miliona EUR tzv. "profita"
    - da nema subvencija Air Serbia bi bila 68,3 miilona EUR u gubitku

    No čak i taj tzv. "prihod" je sumnjiv jer je 9,2 miliona EUR knjiženo iz "čudnih" ostalih prihoda.

    Subvencije su iznosile 44% prihoda od prodaje putničkih karata!!!!!!!

    I još se Beogradskom aerodromu ne plaća. Znači još dodatan novac uz subvencije koji je "udio u financiranju" jer se nema para da se uloži u posao kao i Etihad.

    A Beogradski aerodrom je toliko rekordno profitabilan samo zato što

    - "sretnom" okolnošću Država je uplatila 2.100.000.000,00 dinara onih prastarih dugova Jata koje je na sebe preuzela baš predzadnji dan 2004. godine

    - još toliko starih dugova uplatila u 2015.

    - zbog toga je Aerodrom Beograd bio u rekordnom dobitku, i bez tog novca bio bi u ogromnim problemima

    - isplatom dividende večinskom vlasniku, taj isti novac je vračen državi, znači profitabilnost aerodroma zapravo se temelji tek na prebacivanju novaca sa računa na račun i nazad

    - toliko o tome kako skoro 300 miliona EUR starih dugova Jata neće biti teret poreznim obveznicima

    A što iduće godine kada više neće biti uplate "starog duga"?
    A sa kojim novcem će se nadograditi aerodrom, kupiti oprema, sortirnica, prilagoditi aerodrom letovima za SAD?
    Kreditima, novim dugovima? Jer oni koji plačaju odlaze, režu linije i frekvencije, a Air Serbija i dalje neće plačati, dakle novaca je sve manje i manje i manje!

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    1. *2004=2014 godine

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    2. Divno je imati zabrinute i brizne komsije ;)

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    3. Upravo tako kako si napisao, s tim sto si malo pomesao subvencije i ne placanja aerodormu. To ti dodje jedna stavka, jer su ulaganja vlade kroz kompenzaciju sa aerodomakim taksama, ali nikako ih ne mozes nazvati subvencijama!

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    4. Za Anonymous October 13, 2015 at 12:53 PM

      +1

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    5. 71 milion je subvencija + neplačanje taksi Aerodromu Beograd. Ovo drugo nema veze sa prvim. Dakle prvo + drugo!

      A uz to je Srbija uplatila krajem 2014. i u 2015. još 4,2 milijarde dinara aerodromu Beograd na ime starih Jatovih dugova zbog čega je AB bio profitabilan.

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    6. ne mogu nize aerodromske takse da se pravdaju kao prihodi.

      znaci 71 milion evra prihoda od drzavne subvencije koji se knjize u prihodima

      + nize aerodromske takse koje mogu da se vide u manjim rashodima

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    7. glavno da je Vucic najavio letove za SAD, to je spas :)

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  19. More flights to Tirana cool!

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  20. My god! This is nothing else but realty...the end of one farytall and begginig of a real situation. Would be easy for all to understand this

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    1. As the saying goes, one who flies high falls down hard.

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  21. Off Topic: Arkia to start seasonal flights to Ohrid from next summer http://a1on.mk/wordpress/archives/539268

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  22. My god! This is nothing else but realty...the end of one farytall and begginig of a real situation. Would be easy for all to understand this

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  23. Dok se ASL uspavala i reze mapu Destinacija koja je t´bila tek malo veca od Jata konkurencija pogotovo iz Star Alijanse sprema dobar samar :
    UA uvodi od 25 Maja EWR-ATH 7pw sa B763
    OS uvodi ODS koju ASL iz ne znam kog razloga ignorise i PEK takodje uvode.
    LX je uveo bezbroj novih destinacija u ovom regionu.
    LO uveo bezbroj konkurentnih Prekookeanskih linija .
    Jedna velika graska je bila sto ASL nije uzeo od HG Embraer 190 koji su na kraju zavrsili kod 2L.
    Nazalost uz velik trud EY je doslo do ovog rezanja .
    INN-NS

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    1. Plus Delta will be flying to ATH double daily from JFK.
      ASL shouldn't wait because the competitors don't!

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    2. Finally a good comment from INN.

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    3. Brate INN odlično razmišljanje. Pitao sam se koji će tvoj komentar da bude na ovih.35 ukinutih frekvencija, i prijatno si me iznenadio.

      Kao šlag na tortu imamo i LOT koji.počinje da leti za manje od tri meseca.

      Stefan

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    4. ASL treba da se ugleda na AY koji je uspeo jako dobro ali nije na meni da odlucujem posto ja da se pitam mnogo bi stvari promenio .
      INN-NS

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  24. A lot of IQ-challenged comments, as expected.

    To install wifi on the rest of the Airbus fleet as planned by 1Q 2016, one Airbus needs to be offline almost all the time, as is YU-APC right now. For scheduled maintenance that require prolonged time off like C checks, it is likely couple of planes will have to go offline for a couple of weeks during winter. If at least some 737s are going to be retired, even one or two jets less in a Boeing fleet is a significant capacity drop. When you take all of this into account, network has to shrink for the winter, so those cuts are not surprising at all. Tide will turn next spring with JFK flights and additional planes joining the fleet.

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    1. JFK can bring only 100k passengers more it is not worth mentioning except to drive crazy Croats and people from BEG.

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    2. JFK flights will just increase the losses and it will take a lot of time and effort before they become profitable. And there is no guarantee that they will.
      What is of far greater importance for JU is to get regional jets.

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    3. Samo retardi bi kupovali RJ nece gorivo ostati na ovom nivou. Njima treba jos nekoliko turbopropova za bliske linije.

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    4. Only complete idiots would fly an A320 aircraft with only 50-60 passengers on board instead of putting an RJ on this route and/ or offering much higher frequencies to business passengers instead of flying only 3-4-5 times a week to a major destination.

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    6. ASL je trebala preuzeti 7 E190-100LR od HG ali ne znam sto nije nego su otisli svajcarcima.
      I takodje hvale minimum jos 4-5 ATR72.
      INN-NS

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  25. Pitanje za admina: ova nova vintidz fotka sa jat-om I adriom u njukaslu, da li mozda znas koja je to bila jat-ova linija 86te? Pretpostavljam da je adria letela iz LJU?! Hvala

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    1. Cao! Radio sam u JAT-u 86te pa da ti odgovorim : JAT nikada nije imao liniju za Newcastle. Imao je cartere sa Jadrana, koliko se secam iz Rijeke i Dubrovnika, i opet koliko se secam, iz DBV je leteo B727 a iz RJK DC-9, tako da je devetka na slici verovatno carter iz Rijeke.

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  26. Surprising that Moscow route is being so drastically cut since the LF is always good despite 4 flights per day. SU is maintaining their double flight while JU cutting 50%...??? no logic in my opinion as these flights are never less that 70% full. Would be nice to have an interview with CEO Mr Kondic (specialist that avoids media at all price!). Have you noticed that there has not been a single official interview with this presence since he took over his role as CEO!!?? His excellence Sheik Mr Vucic does all the talking and PR but unfortunately not always knowing the facts!

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    1. +1
      Moscow's reduction is too big!
      Why is JU surrendering this market to Aeroflot?

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    2. Nije to ni toliko lose mozda onda cesce vidimo A332 sto bi bio jedini plus .
      INN-NS

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    3. Mislis Aeroflotov? posto ga nasi nemaju a kako ide radnja po svoj prilici skoro ga i nece biti!))) Nego sta ce da rade sa onolikim strucnjacima koji rade na prihvatu i otpremi na BEG aerodromu kada nema saobracaja? ... tamo ih toliko ima da prosto smetaju jedni drugima!!....

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    4. Ameri NE dozvoljavaju saobracaj bez DVA aviona?

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    5. According to JU official statistics flights Belgrade-Moscow saw load factor less than 60% in December14, January15 and March15, while it was less than 50% in February15.

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    6. @7:01 ne pricaj gluposti, Skygreece je leteo ATH-JFK (nazalost kratko doduse) iako je imao samo jedan B767

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  27. Some comments regarding averages : During its two last winter seasons (W11/12 and W12/13) Jat Airways had fewer than 20 flights a day on average. Air Serbia will record 35 flights a day during W15/16, last winter there were its 38 flights a day.

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    1. Pa Jat Airways je tada leteo sa 6-7 ispravnih aviona (4-5 737 i 1-2 ATR), sto je triput manje aviona nego sto raspolaze ASL.

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    2. Just let those pathetic people cry and believe in their bulshit about Air Serbia having the same number of flights as Jat, they have to invent something to be negative and judgmental.

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    3. Here people can compare Jat's 'impressive' network for their last winter season

      http://tesdfdfd.blogspot.rs/2012/10/jat-airways-winter-20122013.html

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    4. Btw, YU-ALT broke down on last Sunday in the afternoon at Tirana airport, JU213 was cancelled and it is still parked there. More than 50 hours passed.

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    5. YU-ALU broke down in Prague this evening, it departed with a three hour delay. Arrival at BEG at around 01.00.

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  28. Ne zna se ko je gori, ovi sto mastaju da ce ASL biti evropski Emirates ili ovi sto jedva cekaju da se saopsti neka losa vest o Er Srbiji da mogu da kritikuju i pljuju a cim se saopsti nesto tipa uvodjenja wi-fija na letovima se zacute i cekaju sledecu priliku da napadaju, u svakom slucaju oba tima odlicno uspevaju da ispadaju smesna.
    Ovo smanjenje frekvencija za cak 70 letova nedeljno jeste katastrofalno i po mojoj licnoj proceni ce zbog manjeg broja konekcija, pa i konkurentnih aviokompanija u regionu samo smanjiti broj putnika, ali da sad ceo dan pljujem po blogu i tvrdim nesto iskljucivo na osnovu svojih procena koje su vama vecini iskljucivo pesimisticne evo ne znam.

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  29. Pa u sustini i nema nekih bitnih promena osim LCA koja ce saobracati samo u letnjem redu letenja i BUD koja se ukida. Ostale linije imaju isti broj letova ili smanjenje za jedan do tri leta nedeljno. Prosto se osluskuju zahtevi trzista, nije problem dodati jos neki let vise ako bude vece interesovanje na nekim linijama, racionalnije je na nekim linijama imati malo manje letova a veci lf nego obrnuto.

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  30. Danas je praznik za sve mrzitelje Er Srbije. Kad se njihove orgije utisaju pocece da stizu vesti koje im nece prijati. Sledecih par nedelja bice mucno gledati kako pate, zato nek uzivaju danas!

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    1. To se prica vec mesecima kako stizu vesti a onda nista.

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    2. I ja sam tako cuo nesto slicno i nadam se da ce se ostvariti .
      INN-NS

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  31. OT: LH suspending their double daily service from MUC to IST completely during the winter season.

    Now THAT'S a drastic cut. Complete capitulation to TK.

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    1. I OS nikako nece leteti preko zime za IST.
      INN-NS

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    2. Austrijanci zimi lete direktno za lansarote, fuerteventuru i boa vistu. Idu na vikende na gran kanariju.. nasi siromasi nemaju ni za frankfurt kod strine pa je asl morao da spusti na 6 nedeljno.. ejjj frankfurt!!!!

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    3. koji ce qrc tamo kad rade usa preko ams i londona? lh ima jaku mashinu, nemacka postaje carstvo lcc kad im to bude puklo lh kao sto je alitaliju cesace se.

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    4. Since when does OS fly to Boa Vista? Please quote a source!

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  32. Whenever a topic about Air Serbia comes up two kinds of people: the ones which raise Air Serbia to clouds and the other extreme are the ones who predict worst case scenarios. Can we all for once try to stay neutral on a topic? I do not see this kind of comments on any other non related Air Serbia topics

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    1. Excellent comment! Bravo!

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  33. Back to life, back to reality...

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  34. I see that some people are still dreaming of A332...

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  35. I am surprised that they have not reduced services to Bucharest.. Pax numbers have started to fall on the BEG-OTP route for Air Serbia, yet slightly rise for Tarom (especially compared to the start of the year 2015)

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