Monday, August 29, 2016

Qatar Airways to boost EX-YU operations


Qatar Airways will boost its operations from Doha to the former Yugoslavia this winter for a third year in a row. The airline will begin the expansion by maintaining its ten weekly service to Zagreb throughout the winter season, up from last year's seven, and boosting capacity on seven of its weekly services. The carrier plans to use its 182-seat Airbus A321 aircraft on the route instead of the A320. The A321 features twelve seats in business class and the remaining 170 in economy. The upgrade bodes well for the airline's operations next summer, which could see it operate double daily flights between the two capital cities. "Qatar Airways constantly reviews market conditions in order to respond to passenger demand and the increase in flights to Zagreb to a ten weekly operation was a direct reflection of this. While we are unable to comment directly on future commercial plans, it is true that in a number of markets, where we have increased operations from a daily, to then ten weekly operation, we have then seen an increase to a double daily operations, such as Bucharest which commenced double daily flights to Doha this August", a Qatar spokesperson told EX-YU Aviation News.

This March, Qatar Airways launched nonstop flights to Belgrade, which were previously operated via Sofia. During the winter, the airline will maintain four weekly flights on the route, as was the case this summer, and will continue to run the service without a stop. According to the "Aviatica" portal, the airline has recorded strong passenger growth after it upgraded the route to a non-stop operation, with numbers improving up to 90%. This is despite the airline facing strong competition on the market from Etihad Airways, Air Serbia and Flydubai. However, the carrier says its on board product gives it a competitive edge over its rivals. Commenting on the passenger structure on these flights, the airline told EX-YU Aviation News, "While it has to be said that we are seeing an increasing number of people travelling to Doha from the former Yugoslavia, most of our passengers travel through Doha to one of our more than 150 global destinations".

Despite delaying the launch of its flights to Skopje and Sarajevo, which were initially scheduled to launch in October and November respectively, Qatar Airways is committed to introducing these services and has denied claims that the two have been dropped altogether. Flights to Skopje are now expected to commence during the first quarter of 2017, while services to Sarajevo will launch "as soon as possible", although no exact timeframe has been given. In the lead up to the service launch, Qatar Airways is hiring a number of staff members in the Bosnian capital including airport service agents, supervisors and managers. Furthermore, this September, the airline will hold cabin crew recruitment events in both Skopje and Sarajevo. The Qatari carrier is believed to be considering flights to Dubrovnik next year, while other possibilities in the former Yugoslavia include both Ljubljana and Pristina, however, future expansion is being hampered by the late delivery of its aircraft from both Airbus and Boeing.

133 comments:

  1. My guess for summer 2017

    ZAG - Double daily
    BEG - Daily
    SKP/SJJ will probably remain 3x per week

    I doubt we will see any new destinations in ex-yu next summer, at least until they get their aircraft deliveries.

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    1. Could we see widebodies on ZAG route soon?

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    2. 787 from winter 2017 on same of frequencies to ZAG.

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    3. wow that would be amazing!

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    4. What are the loads like from ZAG?

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    5. Is this 787 a sure thing?

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    6. Summer 2017:
      ZAG - 14x
      BEG - 4x
      SKP - 4x
      SJJ - 3x
      DBV - 3x

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    7. No this is a wishful thinking of anonymous 9 : 12 AM .

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    8. Is that confirmed? Won't potential DBV loads impact on their ZAG loads since many of their passengers are actually Asian tourists going to the coast?

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    9. No, DBV was announced only by some forum members, never even mentioned by QR.

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  2. 132 sjedala u ekonomskoj plus 12 u business ne mogu nikako dati rezultat od 182 sjedala

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  3. I think we will see more surprises from Qatar in the years ahead especially with Qatar hosting the football world cup in a couple of years.

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    1. what's with Dubrovnik?

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    2. Currently nothing - no announcements made by QR at all. I dont see them doing that as they dont do seasonal routes.

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  4. Don't understand why so many airlines are avoiding LJU like the plague. I know it is close to bigger hubs but it can also attract passengers from smaller cities like Graz and Slovenians would travel from LJU if there were options.

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  5. I ko sad ima manje cijene prema Aziji i Australiji kad se ide iz Zagreba recimo? Jel jeftinije ici sa Air Serbijom preko Beograda i Abu Dhabija ili preko Dohe?

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    1. Najčešće su najpovoljnije cijene iz Zagreba:

      1. Turkish
      2. Qatar
      3. FlyDubai
      4. Air Serbia via BEG + Etihad
      5. Lufthansa

      No, to ovisi o liniji, ali i datumu putovanja. Često kada je najpovoljniji Qatar ili flyDubai. Air Serbija je vrlo vrlo rijetko najpovoljnija.

      Air Serbia sa dodatnim stopom ovdje nije konkurentna osim ako je destinacija Abu Dhabi.

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    2. Najjeftiniji je Turkish Airlines trenutno preko Istanbula i Singapura u kombinaciji sa Singapore Airlinesom. Onda ide JU/EY kombinacija koja je 2 evra skuplja od TK ali mnogo brža, pa onda Qatar Airways koji je nekig 100 evra skuplji ali najbrza opcija.

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    3. ^ Ovaj gore komentar se odnosi za letove za Australiju u sledecem mesecu.

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    4. No wonder Turkish is the cheapest. A month ago people were strolling across the tarmac at Ataturk.

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    5. Not true. ZAG-SYD 18.10.2017., SYD-ZAG 27-10.2017:

      1. Qatar 992 EUR
      2. Turkish 1.101 EUR
      3. Lufthansa 1.131 EUR
      4. Air Serbia/Erihad 1.133 EUR
      5. Emirates 1.706 EUR

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    6. Guys prices are not fixed. It depends which destination and month you select.

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    7. Excuse me, are those Turkish and Lufthansa flights codesared with Thai or Singapore?

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    8. I'm pretty sure Lufty is Thai via Bangkok, not too sure about Turkish.

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    9. Turkish is Singapore Airlines via Singapore.

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    10. nice nice nice

      1. Qatar 992 EUR
      2. Turkish 1.101 EUR
      3. Lufthansa 1.131 EUR

      Think i might try Qatar and Turkish when I fly next time to Australia.

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  6. Great news. Hope to see some more destinations soon.

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  7. Qatar Airways really did well with Zagreb. They took a risk and entered the market before the competition and now they are reaping the rewards.

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  8. I wonder how Fly Dubai finds the competition in BEG and ZAG and now SJJ. Especially since Qatar launched additional cities in Australia.

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  9. I can't get over the fact that they were selling tickets to Sarajevo and then just cancelled sales. Like a third class airline.

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  10. No big surprises. They often upgraded Zagreb to A321 during the summer. Was hoping to see Belgrade go daily. It would give more options to connect. My friends from Perth just flew PER-BEG-PER with them. It was the cheapest option.

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  11. Do you guys think we will see Emirates flying to some airport soon or flyDubai is covering the region for them all together? And if they do, which airport do you think they'll go first, BEG, ZAG or SKP?
    I'm also surprised that they still haven't started SOF.

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    1. They will come for sure. They have so many planes on order they will have to fly them somewhere. They have already contacted BEG and ZAG for additional information and pricing.

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    2. I don't see Emirates coming to the region before launching OTP. I think Bucharest will be their first choice and they will use it to test the ground.

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  12. Since QR start flying to ExYu , TK recently dropped the prices , to and from Australia is around 1400-1600$aud, before they use to be +1900$ . Completion is alwYs good .

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  13. EY expansion in ex yu:

    EY 2013: daily A319 AUH-BEG
    EY 2016: daily A320 AUH-BEG

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    1. + purchase of a 49% share in local airline and over 30 code shares.

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    2. In same time
      Qatar 2013: ZAG via BUD daily A319
      Qatar 2016: ZAG 10x A321, BEG 4x nonstop A320 (+ plans for SJJ, SKP and DBV)

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    3. As I said they bought an airline in the region that covers all those destinations. Don't get what you are trying to prove here.

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    4. Actually thanks to Etihad there have been 14 weekly flights between BEG and AUH for almost 3 years now.

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    5. @ Anonymous August 29, 2016 at 10:09 AM

      He wants to show that Qatar is better than Etihad and that hence their share in Air Serbia is a "disaster" (his favorite word). Of course avoiding any facts presented to him as it does not go well with his narrative.

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    6. No, I did not. I just want to mention that Qatar expansion in region is bigger and continuous, and Etihad is just focus on Belgrade and after that they have stagnation.

      Etihad is far the smallest company in MEB3. Qatar and especially Emirates (flyDubai) are much bigger so it is normal that their expansion in region would be bigger also.

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    7. Purchase of 49% of Air Serbia and codeshares did not increase EY feed capacity by much. Only increase is A319 to A320 in 3 years.

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    8. And I'm sure you have insight into their feed. Their planes to and from BEG are constantly full even Air Serbia is now regularly full. Unlike Qatar and Emirates, Etihad actually BOUGHT an airline. Of course they are not going to launch places like Zagreb and Sarajevo when they have an airline they bought flying those routes.

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    9. If EY was to start a new route in the region it should Ljubljana. Flights from/to Abu Dhabi are full of Slovenians who connect onto JU flight to LJU.

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    10. I have actually heard EY is in talks with ZAG. It is from a source that is high up in management but I don't see the logic.

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    11. If EY/JU planes to AUH are constantly full they would start using bigger planes or add more frequency.

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    12. They are constantly full. They also have a fleet shortage like Qatar and are borrowing planes from partner airlines. Until they get more widebodies you won't see them upgrading capacity on lower yielding routes.

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    13. It is true that EY is full to/from BEG. This summer they did a lot of overbookings too.

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    14. priorities...

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    15. It would be unwise for JU to increase AUH to an A320 as it means it would miss two rotations. Also, JU's A319s have more seats than EY's A320s. The next logical step would be for EY to increase BEG to an A321. Logically, they should be the ones who should be looking to improve their CASM on the route.

      As for QR in ZAG, don't forget that it's because the market is much less competitive. It was only a few years ago that ZAG started to get decent links to the East.

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    16. Good to see QR making such positive progress in ZAG. Lower competition and highest demand from AU/Asia in ex YU is basically main reason. Let's see if soon somenody else jumps on board to chase that, as FZ inccreasing its frequencies since I doubt EK will send its wide body any time soon to ex YU.

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    17. JU onboard hard product to the ME is the worst to the Gulf. The only advantage JU has is frequency. I just hope the cabin will be much better in the A320 neos when they arrive.

      @ anonymous 10,30am

      JU is not constantly full. Currently, the loads are good (full and overbooked) because it is the high season. Give it another month and a half and the load will drop. I don't think EY does well in promoting JU connections as much as it does its own, sadly.

      @ anonymous 10,35am

      June to Mid September is where both EY and JU are overbooked, and its been like that the past couple of years. After that, EY remains full and JU somewhat.

      @ nemjee

      EY doesn't have the capacity nor does AUH have the space for additional pax, as it struggles to accommodate what they currently have. The A319's were too little capacity for a long time yet only this year changed it to the A320, and even still the summer went overbooked. Rumour has it that EY will again drop BEG and again let JU take over their flight.

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    18. ^That would be a downgrade and people will switch to the competition immediately.
      That is Turkish which offers still best options.Definitely not Qatar with ist pathetic four weekly flights.
      Best would be if EY takes over JUs flight and upgrade to 320 but i doubt it.

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    19. @ anonymous 6,22pm

      not really. When JU was operating for EY last year the loads were still high and didn't seem affected. Then, they did BEG-AUH and AUH-MCT on behalf of EY.

      However I dont see much changing from JU to AUH until the A320 neo comes into service.

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  14. People here were claiming how they were launching DBV this year. Even Purger was saying it and nothing happened.

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    1. As you can see they postponed all their expansion planes because of delays of planes. It is not just DBV, but also SKP, SJJ and many more routes in World.

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    2. DBV was never announced as a new route. SKP and SJJ have been.

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    3. I see more potential in SPU compared to DBV, all year round. It is a much bigger city plus larger catchment area, too.

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    4. And for sure that is a reason why Turkish start to fly to DBV instead of SPU.

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    5. The reason that led Turkish to launch DBV flights was political. In my opinion, neither SPU nor DBV are year-round destinations and they don't require international flights during winter period.

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  15. I wonder weather the introduction of Skopje and Sarajevo will impact on their flights to Zagreb and Belgrade. They use to sell both SJJ and SKP via ZAG.

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    1. Not true. They sell SJJ and SKP mostly via VIE by OS, and SKP also via FCO with AZ.

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  16. It looks ideal to start DOH-SJJ-SKP-DOH with A320 in triangle, 4pw or 5pw. What could keep them from doing this? They are now getting airbus deliveries, they could at least start that route by about December.

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    1. There is huge delays with Airbus A320 (49 on order not a one delivered jet, first one should be delivered last year and till December there should be 10 of them in fleet) and A350 planes (71 still to be delivered just 9 delivered out of 20 it should be delivered till December). Huge, they are 30 planes short till December!!!!! So they have to postponed those flights and so many other planes expansions. Nut just in Balkans.

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    2. * 20 planes short, not 30

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    3. you cannot have such schedules since due to overall flight time both destinations would miss Australia bank (either from or to Australia).

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    4. How could they do SOF+BEG together then for years?? SKP+SJJ is exactly the same flight time duration.

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    5. Well this Al Baker guy is seriously stupid harming his own company because he wants to get prestige and look strong. He purposely cancelled the first deliveries of A320neos after they couldn't be delivered on time. Hence now it is unclear when they will get their first birds. LH took over the first orders as launch customers (Neos with fixed engines). The problems with engines was resolved in July and first A320neo with revised PW engines was delivered end of July to LH. It could have been QR instead of LH. This is plain stupidity.

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    6. because they only rescheduled Australia flights (expect Perth) to depart DOH at 9 PM this spring.

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  17. Does anyone know QR's actual loads?

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    1. ZAG top season (June-August) 95%
      low season (April-May, September-October) 85%
      out of season 75%

      Huge LF! That is why they increase capacity every season:
      2013 winter 7 1 stop BUD flights,
      2014 summer 3 nonstop flights, 4 via BUD,
      2015 summer 5 nonstop flights,
      2015 winter 7 nonstop flights,
      2016 summer 10 flights,
      2016 winter A321 instead A320,
      2017 summer 14 flights
      2017 winter 787 in some frequencies

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    2. For my flight Zagre to Doha in July, I asked the flight attendant and they said that their was only one spare seat. My sister took the same flight in mid August and she said the plane was packed.

      I think the schedule to and from Sydney is a major reason why they are so successful in Zagreb. 21 hours hassle free flight.

      My only complaint is the food on offer. Really disappointing especially when you're expecting so much from them because of their reputation. Doha to Sydney had almost an identical menu to Zagreb Doha but with a breakfast offering as the only difference. All the food was swimming in a sauce which was ok I guess but not that easy on the pallet. Kids for example would have a tough time eating it I believe.

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  18. Interestimg to see that Qatar gov't will introduce airport tax of QAR 35 prr passenger (transit included) in order to plug the budget deficit.
    While not much, I wonder what impact it will have on Qatar Airways.

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    1. One question, when flying Qatar Airways and transiting through Doha (catching a connecting flight at the airport) do you need a transit visa on a Serbian passport? Thanks.

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    2. No, you do not.

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    3. Thanks :) They just announced some great promo fares so was looking at using them.

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    4. The tax wont have impact on pax numbers. QAR35 works out to be just over USD$10 which isn't much, especially comparing some other airports.

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    5. It's a major precedent, from an effective subsidy to a tax. If oil remains below $50, I can see them increasing it in the future when it will start to make a difference.

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    6. UAE already introduced such a fee in May.

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  19. Wizz Air has called for a press conference in Belgrade this coming Wednesday. Any idea what they might announce? Return of a second A320 at BEG?

    https://flyfromnis.blogspot.rs/2016/08/wizz-air-predstavlja-nove-planove-razvoja-u-srbiji.html

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    1. I really hope so. Or introducing a base to Nis. Hopefully both!!

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    2. Hmm... I have a feeling that it might be something related to BEG since the press conference is taking place there.

      If a second A320 is returning then it will be interesting to see what routes/frequencies they announce.

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    3. Hopefully Kutaisi or something out of the box.

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    4. Maybe the bilateral doesn't allow them to launch Kutaisi flights. Maybe something like Bergamo, Barcelona, Berlin?

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    5. Ih Barcelona dva puta nedeljno da ne placu vise za to ASLu. Da ima putnika za Milano leteo bi Izi sa Malpense. Mozda ce Rajan Treviso.

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    6. Nemjee, you are wrong. Wizz Air will probably choose some new destinations from Belgrade, so Milan-Bergamo or Berlin are out of scope. There are many underserved regions in Germany.

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    7. EDI or GLA would be amazing.

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    8. Well, who knows, I was just giving examples. I guess we'll find out in two days. I only hope that they increase LCA to two weekly in winter.

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    9. I guess it could be HHN,SXF, HAM or BTS. Hopefully BCN but chances are slim

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    10. Just not some typical gasterbeiter destination...

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    11. Wizz Air want to pay as little as possible, so they may not open routes to HHN, SXF, BGY, HAM, BCN because neighboring cities are already served from BEG.

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    12. Doesn't matter, INI overlaps with SOF and SKP and they are much closer than any other airport is to BEG.

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  20. Happy to hear this. QR is a great airline.

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    1. Ask their work force - they would have a very different opinion (if they could speek freely)

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    2. I dunno which work force you're talking about, but i know a guy that makes €3.300 as a senior technician and has no plans on returning to his homeland (which isn't any of ex-Yu countries).

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  21. Any statistic about the final destinations of pax flying Qatar Airlines out of Zagreb?

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    1. It is almost exclusively Asian tourists visiting the coast and surrounding countries, therefore any eventual flights from China might prove a big competition.

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    2. Not really since Chinese use QR to Croatia in very, very small numbers.

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    3. @AnonymousAugust 29, 2016 at 1:08 PM

      It is a mix, not all tourist, there are 400 000 Croatians live in Australia, 100 000 in New Zealand.

      150 000 Aussies visit Croatia each year, 50 000 Kiwis.

      Most Asian Tourist arrive via Lufthansa, British Airways and Air France. Qatar and Turkish also have a piece of pie but not to assume only tourist fly to Zagreb with QR is silly and uninformed.

      Also number of Chinese visitors to Croatia in 2016 is expected to top 340 000, in 20-17 that number is expected to hit 500 000. Even with daily out of Beijing by Capitol Beijing Airlines with A 380 would hardly dent that number. By 2020, 1 million Chinese tourist are expected to visit Croatia and Zagreb by 2020, 500 000 South Koreans, 500 000 Japanese, 550-750 000 US, 150-250 000 Canadians, 250-300 000 Australian visitors.

      QR would need to send A380 double daily just to cover 10% of demand for Asian tourist, not even talking Australia and New Zealand.

      Korean Air, Capitol Beijing Airline, Qatar Airways, ANA/JAL are all coming to Zagreb big time in 2017, most likely full on year round service in 2018, with most having trice weekly service to Zagreb in 2019, with QR probably flying to Zagreb with B787/A350 double daily. With 3 million visitors from Australasia each year projected by 2020, there'll be plenty of room for everyone, I can guarantee you that, Turkish I predict will have trice daily flights to Zagreb in no time.

      Lufthansa from five daily to 10 daily flights and Air France to trice daily service, BA and KLM too.

      Zagreb will see massive influx and numbers should go up really fast. No idea how fast the airport management can expand the new terminal, but by 2020 they'll have to.

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    4. For sure 5O daily to FRA 40 to MUC what is wrong with you?

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    5. AnonymousAugust 29, 2016 at 5:57 PM

      Ovo je kao da čitam predizborna obećanja od strane Tomislava Karamarka ili Kolinde Grabar Kitarović, kao ono prosperitetna država i te gluposti.
      Neće sigurno u Zagreb dolaziti A380, sigurno ne već do 2020, nema šanse, jedva i sada preko sezone imamo samo AirTransat koji koristi widebody avion, i to samo 1x tjedno, i eventualno kada 11-12x godišnje dođe Korean Air s A330 (neki put s B747, ovisi).
      Bilo bi dobro kada bi imali barem jednu aviokompaniju koja bi i tijekom zime letila s widebody, barem 2-3x tjedno, za sada je najrealnije to bila kompanija Qatar Airways, ali sigurno ne prije 2018. godine, kada bi ona jutarnja rotacija bila s B787 ili A330, dok bi ona druga rotacija ostala i dalje na A320 ili u najboljem slučaju A321. I mislim da će QR s takvom rotacijom i stakvim kapacitetima ostati jedno duže vrijeme.
      Eventualno Korean Air krene s 2-3 rotacije tjedno za Zagreb, ali samo sezonski od možda sljedeće godine, ali year round sumnjam.
      Jedino se kao spominje ovaj Beijing Airlines, ali ne zna se još hoće to ići year round ili samo sezonski, ali vjerujem da će za početak samo sezonski, ali nema ta kompanija previše linija općenito jedino ako će code-shareat s drugim kompanijama za prijevoz dalje po Aziji, ali i ovako kinesko tržište ogromno, tako da bi tu trebalo biti dovoljno putnika.
      Turkish Airlines zaboravi da će letove za Zagreb obavljati 3x tjedno, možda 2030. godine, već su sada skratili iz 14 puta tjedno na 10 puta, ali i gotovo sve europske destinacije smanjili primjerice sa 3x na tjedan na samo 2x! I to ne par destinacija, nego gotovo sve! Turkish Airlines je u problemima, ali sigurno je i posljedica tomu geopolitička situacija.
      Letovi za Frankfurt u tako kratkom razdoblju za 10x tjedno? Zaboravi, a Air France i BA još uvijek lete 1x dnevno, kao i KLM, tako da u najboljem slučaju produže na 10x tjedno, max 14. puta, u kratkom roku neće sigurno biti 3x dnevno, jesi li ti svjestan što pričaš?
      Okej, očekuju se porast broj putnika, ali ne da će u roku 2 godine biti 50 miliona putnika, nego nekih 3-4 milijuna, do 2020. tek 5 milijuna, i onda slijedi sljedeća faza ekspanzije.
      Nadalje, sigurno će dolazak lowcost kompanija značajno doprinositi brojem putnika u Zagrebu. Bilo bi dobro kada bi se easyJet vratio i napravio bazu u ZAG.

      Volio bih da se letovi za Toronto, obavljaju s Air Canadom kako bi bilo više putnika za transfer, ovako s Air Transat moguće je samo putovati do Toronta ili do Montreala via Toronto, drugačije karte ne prodaju.
      Ne bi bilo loše da se obavljaju letovi do New Yorka s nekom od kompanija.
      Ali svakako prvo otvoriti liniju za:

      1. Atenu, Milano, Prag, Lisbon, Madrid, Barcelonu = year round!
      2. Rim direktno, a ne via SPU ili DBV.
      3. Uvesti Stockholm, Hamburg, Genevu, Sofiju = year round (možda i Bukurešt)
      4. Pojačati postojeće linije, posebice Skopje i Sarajevo da ima više transfer putnika, ali da se i po mogućnosti obnovi linija za Prištinu i Tiranu, ali s barem 4-5 rotacija tjedno da bude isplativo.
      5. Možda sezonski ostaviti St Petersburg, možda i otvoriti također sezonski neku liniju za neku od zemalja Baltika (mislim da bi Tallinn ili Vilnius bili isplativi), i više manjih popularnih europskih mjesta, tipa Palma, neke od grčkih otoka i sl.
      6. I eto barem to za početak. Nikakvih 10 rotacija tjedno za FRA ili 300 rotacija za CDG i slične gluposti.
      Od longhaul bi vjerojatno najisplativije bilo JFK, PEK, ICN, ORD, možda ali možda i BKK. Ostale longhaul nisu niti potrebite.

      Isto tako ne bi me čudilo da vrlo uskoro El Al pojača liniju za Zagreb, jer je traljavo što lete 5x na tjedan, s tim da od tih 5 puta, 3 rotacije naprave u utorak, a presotale dvije rotacije nekim drugim danima.


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    6. *10 puta dnevno FRA, ne tjedno. Pa niti za Heahtrow nema 10x dnevno rotacija iz FRA.

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    7. I da, btw. Iberia je pojačala liniju za Madrid na 3 rotacija tjedno, sad osim i vikendom leti i ponedjeljkom s polaskom iz Zagreba u 20:00h, za razliku od rotacija vikendom koje idu popodne. Ali mislim da i dalje neće letiti year round, nego samo do kraja sezone.

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  22. Ima li tko iskustva sa Qatarom kad je vrijeme duze od 8 sati izmedju letova daju li hotelsku sobu ili neki prostor gdje se mogu odmoriti u medjuvremenu? Prije par godina letio sam sa Malaysian i oni imaju takvu uslugu ukljucenu u cijenu karte

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    1. Mislim da biti to trebala omogućiti svaka iole normalna aviokompanija.
      Ali ja sam letio s Qatarom iz Zagreba do Melbournea, imao sam samo 1h presjedanja u Dohi i sve je bilo super.
      Ali sjećam se da kad sam čitao te upute koje su mi uz kartu poslali na mail, da je pisalo da imaš pravo na hotelsku sobu ako ti je duže od 8h presjedanje.

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    2. Sve zavisi od tarife po kojoj si kupio kartu. U svakom slucaju na aerodromu u DOH imas lounge koji kosta 45usd, verovato ili ne imas i bazen sa mini spa centrom, pa ti tih 8 sati nece tesko pasti.
      U svakom slucaju proveri, za Qatar ti je potrebna i viza koju ti vadi kompanija, posto je kapacitet aerodromskog hotela skoro uvek raspordat.

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    3. Jas sam leteo SOF - DOH - JFK i dobio sam hotelska soba u Oryx Rotana u Doha. Imao sam layover od 11 sati. Leteo sam biznis, ali mislim da je za economy nad 10 ili 12 sati minimum layover. Najbolje da proverish sa aviokompanija

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    4. Vodi računa - ukoliko postoji kraća konekcija istog dana, a ti namerno izabereš dugačku, nećeš imati pravo na hotel.

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  23. JU BEG-DBV on A320 today. :)

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  24. I will be using QR for the first time from Belgrade to Hong Kong this November. Managed to find a really cheap promo fair.

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  25. Guys is flyDubai moving to DWC,if they do that they would be gone...

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    1. Just part of fleet and operations.

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    2. Nothing is confirmed, however there is a lot of talk that FZ will move over entirely next year to DWC, to enable EK more slots for expansion. However, I dont think there is enough space in DWC for the entire FZ network at this moment. A complete move to DWC would affect EK, which has seen a drop in CLF evident in the last financial report.

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    3. Not enough space in DWC? I think they currently use some 1,5% of their maximum capacity. It is planned to become the world's largest airport once all DXB traffic moves over.

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    4. Once everything is built, yes, it will be amongst the largest in the world. However, not much has been built. 3 flights and the car parking facility is almost full, let alone the rest. Proper access roads still havnt been constructed to the airport, let alone basing an airline of 50+ ac there.

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  26. Small OT: BEG - JFK today 17 pax in business

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    1. Upgraded pax, non-rev pax, or paying pax?

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    2. Today there were 5 booked business guests on JU500. Economy was nearly full.

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    3. Business guests. lol

      More like 5 business passengers and 12 business guests.

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    4. If economy was nearly full then no pax were upgraded. They needed to overbook the economy to upgrade the passengers.

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    5. My guess is that this was either a group travelling in business class or a strange occurrence as it's mostly empty. JU really needs to promote its premium cabin much more, not only on long-haul but short-haul as well.

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  27. Don't know if anyone has mentioned it, but TK is having massive network cuts in both short haul and long haul flights. There are cuts from JFK (downgrade from 3x to 2x/day), to flights in Europe including:

    Zagreb - Reduce from 14 to 10 weekly
    Priština - Reduce from 14 to 10 weekly

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    1. It was mentioned.

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    2. Why do they do these massive network cuts? Do they arrested a lot of TK employees and can't fulfill all the positions now or they are not popular nowadays? I was affected by these cuts, and I had to cancel my ticket to JFK. Considering other options now including QTR.

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    3. http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/268588/turkish-airlines-w16-inter-continental-service-changes-as-of-27aug16/

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    4. Who on earth would go from Europe to DOH/AUH/DXB first in order to fly to the US/Canada? Do you guys have too much time? Seriously a least 20h in planes instead of 10h flying? Goodness me!
      Thats like going to OSL on my way to JNB as SAS offers 20 EUR cheaper fare - just much worse.

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    5. For some that money is not nothing, don't forget about that.

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    6. TK are reducing operations also to OTP & SOF

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  28. Excellent news about Qatar. Looking forward to using them in a couple of months.

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