Friday, February 17, 2017

Russia eyes SSJ100 sales in Serbia and Slovenia


The parent company of the Russian Sukhoi plane manufacturer, United Aircraft Corporation (UAC), has held talks with Air Serbia and "a Slovenian carrier" over the sale of the Sukhoi Superjet 100 aircraft. UAC Vice President for Civil Aviation, Vladislav Masalov, told media at the Aero India 2017 Airshow in Bangalore on Tuesday that the company was focusing on talks with Air Serbia, a Slovenian airline and the Hungarian government, which have all expressed interest in the 108-seater aircraft. Mr Masalov noted that the company's sales program for 2017 is almost complete and added that an order for twenty of the jets would soon be concluded with Aeroflot. The first European carrier outside of Russia to operate the SSJ100 on revenue flights is the Irish regional airline CityJet, while Brussels Airlines will wet-lease some of the aircraft for a two-year period from April.

Sukhoi first approached and pitched the SSJ100 to the Serbian carrier in late 2015. A delegation from the plane manufacturer visited Serbia to hold talks with representatives from the country's aviation sector including Air Serbia, aircraft maintenance company Jat Tehnika and the Serbian Civil Aviation Directorate. Vladimir Lavrov, the Chief Designer at the Sukhoi Company, said at the time, "It is safe to say that talks with our Serbian colleagues were very successful. We found a few ideas that we will develop jointly and received a number of interesting proposals from our Serbian counterparts". Air Serbia has been on the lookout to replace its regional fleet of six ATR72 aircraft, most of which were delivered new to the carrier's predecessor in 1990.

On the other hand, Mr Masalov did not specify which Slovenian airline has been engaged in talks with UAC. Currently, Adria Airways, Aero4M, Lipican Aer and Solinair have active Air Operator Certificates issued by the country's regulator, with the latter three operating private business and cargo flights. Interest for the SSJ100 has grown in the region, with Croatia Airlines' CEO, Krešimir Kučko, recently noting that the carrier is considering the type for its regional fleet expansion, along with Embraer and Bombardier. The SSJ100 has the capacity to seat between 87 and 108 passengers, depending on cabin layout and seat configuration. It has so far racked up 370 orders and delivered 99 aircraft. In 2016, a total of twenty orders were made for the jets while no contracts have been signed so far in 2017.

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  1. Interesting. Somehow I doubt Air Serbia would go for SSJs in the end. The easiest thing to do to replace their existing ATRs is to just get new ATRs.

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    1. The SSJ could be a decent replacement for the A319 which is too big for many routes JU serves. Destinations such as STR, PRG, SKG, MXP... would be a perfect fit.

      By reducing the seat count on these routes they could afford to increase frequency thus improving connectivity in Belgrade.

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    2. ^ I agree but they are getting NEOs to replace the current Airbus fleet which means even more seats.

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    3. NEOs should serve the routes where there is demand for so many seats. They don't need to be deployed everywhere.

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    4. But they are getting 10 of them and they said that as they arrive the current Airbuses will go, so they will deploy them pretty much everywhere. I agree that they nees maybe 2-3 planes with 100 seat capacity.

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    5. Well, there are many routes out there where an A319 is too big meaning a NEO would be even worse.

      If we take STR as an example, with the SSJ they could comfortably operate daily flights in winter while in summer they could go as high as double daily. With their current four weekly flights they can hardly be competitive when it comes to offering connecting flights.

      Unfortunately, at the end of the day, I don't think we'll see a regional jet in Air Serbia's fleet any time soon.

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    6. Not all the 10 Neos will come at once. The delivery period is 3 years which gives enough time to open enough new routes so that all Neos and (whichever) regional aircraft are fully utilized.

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    7. @ Nemjee

      I fully support your opinion and can add that in this very moment nobody can be sure when NEO family will come in ASL. In best scenario whole package will be prolonged and please do not ask for worst case.

      ATCO

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    8. Stop creating intrigues.First one arriving next year July.

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    9. Just for clarifacation :

      My point is that ASL does need smaller aircraft than A319/320 but SSJ must not be an option.

      ATCO

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    11. Personally I think Airserbia will eventually end up with the Q400 if they ever decide to replace the ATR fleet.

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    12. Wouldn't you like that. ;-)

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    13. I m almost pretty sure that the 319 will not disappear. 10 neos and some RJ will not be sufficient for JU growth plans and to operate the airline profitable
      For the sake of success of JU, I hope they will not decide for a Russian built aircraft. JUs biz model pretty much depends on western europe transit travellers. And in the west still a fundamental opposition against Russia and Russian made aircraft exists
      Can only recommend JU to opt for Embraer, Mitsubishi or Bombardier aircraft

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    14. You mean the same Mitsubishi that can't get its act together and build a decent aircraft? Or Bombardier which is surviving only thanks to Canada's cash injections?

      Most passengers don't even know what aircraft they are flying on, even less so where it comes from. I am sure many wouldn't feel comfortable if they knew they were flying on a Brazilian aircraft.

      Introducing the SSJ wouldn't make any difference to the passengers especially since it looks no different from its competition. After all, if Americans have no problem flying on Interjet's SSJs, why should the Europeans care?

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  2. Which Slovenian airline could it be. I can't believe it would be Adria...

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    1. You never know Pahor was in Russia a few days ago.

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    2. Pahor has nothing to do with Adria. Adria is a private owned company now and with German oversight.

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    3. SHS Aviation maybe?

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    4. Ah yes. That would make sense very much because VLM Airlines also had orders for SSJ100.

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    5. Where would they be based? Maribor?

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    6. In this case in Maribor yes.

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  3. I still think the funniest thing is that Kucko is considering these planes.

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    1. +1 next up he will say they are considering the Ilyushin.

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  4. They are crazy for even considering this poorly designed aircraft.

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    1. Here we go again. Why is it a poorly designed aircraft? Because it's Russian?

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    2. He is probably referring to the mechanical issues they experienced about two months ago. It's ok, SN and AF will be operating them, so...

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    3. As far as I remember, Dreamliner experienced mechanical issues and had a global wide ban on operations as well.

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    4. The main issue is spare parts and customer support availability with the tense policital situation. That's the reason that almost nobody (apart from two operators) from the West ordered the SSJ.

      Why would you even order SSJ100, when you have a reliable E190 available with reliable delivery of spare parts, well tested product that can operate in various enviroments: Cat 3b (SSJ is Cat 3a only), London City, etc.

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    5. SN and AF will not be operating them, another airline will operate them on behalf of those companies but on its own risk... If it's not working out they can terminate the contract and that's it. Buying the aircraft however is a while different game. Russa are not famous about their succesful airliners and dependable spare part delivery system in the last 30 years... Unless you need weapons of course.

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    6. Correction: Russa=Russians.

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    7. It all depends on the end-deal. For example, a deal that would include a European SSJ100 maintenance center in Belgrade as well as a nice discount for the aircraft could be worth trying. That would instantly remove many fears related to spare parts and customer support. If the numbers add up it could be potentially a better deal than new ATRs. If the numbers don't add up they can simply thank Sukhoi, take ATRs instead and that's it.

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    8. ATRs and regional jets complement each other. JU should get new ATRs and get planes that are bigger than ATRs but smaller than A320neo.

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    9. Anon 09.52

      The sheer fact airlines like AF and SN are willing to be associated with an airliner such as the SSJ only goes to show that it's not such a bad aircraft after all.
      There is a reason why they never leased Tu-154s or the Tu-134s but have no problem getting the SSJ.

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    10. AF and SN are not "getting" the SSJ. They are simply wet-leasing aircraft (= zero risk) from another company which ordered the SSJ purely because of its dire financial situation.

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  5. Agree with a few readers here that the Slovenian airline might be the upcoming SHS Aviation. I doubt its Adria. They won't replace CRJs with Sukhois haha and their terrible Airbus contracts expire between 2022-2024.

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    1. I doubt Adria will see the end of the Airbus contracts...

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    2. Thank you Nostradamus. Could you give me this weeks lotto numbers?

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    3. 8, 16, 23, 27, 32, 35 i 37

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    4. You know what, I am gonna play them! Thanks!

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  6. Dok postoji i trunka razuma u ASL, ovaj polupropali projekat nece naci uhlebljenje u Beogradu. Uostalom SSJ svakako ne moze biti zamena za flotu ATR-ova veceventualno za airbus flotu. Najavljeni odlazak dva A319 svakako podgrevaju ovakve zelje.To bi svakako bilo vrlo lose resenje.

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    1. Kad napišeš ovakav tvrd post, moraš da objasniš i - zašto?

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    2. ne mora... zna se zasto je takav post napisao

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    3. a koji deo nisi shvatio :
      polupropali projekat ili da SSJ ne moze zameniti ATR ili odlazak dva airbusa

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    4. Gospode kakav glup post.

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  7. According to the blogpost I linked below, it's going to be Adria:
    https://aviationdoctor.wordpress.com/2016/01/19/update-the-national-airline-of-slovenia-adria-airways-has-been-sold-for-us-1-2-million-the-buyer-is-a-mysterious-german-company-4k-invest-that-has-a-nice-web-page-but-absolutely-no-information-ab/

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    1. that text is so anti-Russian biased that it reeks of it for miles

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    2. Yes, it is, but the fact of the matter is, the guy who wrote it was right.

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  8. Just fyi, this was reported by pro-russian site Russia behind the headlines. Soo... take anything that you want from that.

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    1. Well they didn't make up the guy's statement.

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  9. Does anybody know the listing price of a superjet? I can imagine thar it's much lower than a A319

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    1. Compared to the average Turbofan-powered narrow-body Commercial Passenger Aircraft, the Sukhoi Superjet 100-95 is $3,000,000 more expensive at $32 million. Has a shorter range by 462 nautical miles at 1,590 nautical miles
      Can cruise 1,630 ft higher at 41,000ft. Can reach a 1 knot (1 mph) higher max. cruise speed at 448 knots (515 mph). Outputs 5,460 fewer lbf of thrust at 34,540 lbf. Is 17,260 lbs lighter at 93,740 lbs. Seats 8.5 fewer passengers at 98 passengers. Has a 0.36 ft taller cabin at 6.96ft.

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    2. That's list price which no one ever pays... aviation fraternity reported at the time that Cityjet paid for their SSJ100 the price of a new Atr 72-600... so less than 20 mil US...

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  10. OT:

    http://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/pogledajte-kako-izgleda-novi-terminal-zagrebacki-aerodrom-otvara-se-u-ozujku/951100.aspx#lightbox[galerija]/2/

    And more...

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    1. And more...

      A few updates for you people,

      China Hainan Airlines will be having scheduled flights to ZAG very soon.

      If ZAG airport play there cards right then we should see an Air Canada Rouge scheduled service starting next season.

      Air Transit could bring in a third flight to Croatia next season. It's unclear yet if it will be Toronto to Dubrovnik, or Montreal to Zagreb.

      The new ZAG -JFK route is still on the table, waiting for the official launch any day now which will have a tag on to another EU city.

      Also EK should introduce a A380 Dubai-Zagreb-trans Atlantic scheduled service to the United States in the near future.

      We also have a good chance to see a Delta Airlines high season scheduled service from ZAG-ATL.

      Even American Airlines are poking around a Newark-Zagreb high season service.

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    2. Btw, this is inside info from a guy (reliable source) who works in Dubai and who knew about EK flights to ZAG!

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    3. AA does not operates long hauls out of EWR

      In regards of SSJ for JP: no thanks, we are happy with Bombardier

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    4. great, I have insiders info, also from EK, that they're planing on adding BEG, double daily with A380. one of those flights will continue to ORD

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    5. Zaboravio je direktnu vezu Hrvatska Argentina.

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    6. To je druga faza razvoja...

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    7. Has Virgin Galactic announced its plans from Zagreb yet?

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    8. Ajde Anonymuse 10:15 fakat si ga pretjerao sada.

      Da si se zaustavio samo na Hainan i na JFK, povjerovali bi ti jos. Ovako si ga faka nas*ao maksimalno l. Jedino ako govoris za recimo 2050. godinu - onda jos vjerujem.

      Da bas i Emirates, Delta, American spajali mali ZAG s NY, kao da smo nekakav glavni svjetski hub.

      Ja ti kazem nista jos za redovnih direktnih linija za Aziju, nema tu za sad mjesta dokle god su igraci i EK, TK i QR... pogotovo jer EK salje 777-300. Mozda za par godina, ali je tada vise izglednije da ce QR i EK pojacati frekvencije/kapacitete nego da operira neka aviokompanija na year round bazi koja bi spajala s Azijom.

      Ovo za Kanadu kao da si iz neke bajke izvadio van.

      A kad ono dolazi Air New Zealand double daily za Zagreb?

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    9. My favorite is ATL-ZAG.

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    10. @ Anonymous 10:44,

      Zagreb fees are to high for Virgin Galactic.

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    11. Alen Šćuric PurgerFebruary 17, 2017 at 12:09 PM

      hahahahaha.... ATL-ZAG.... also my favorite....

      Čovjek božji daj odi si nekaj popit i primi se rađe heklanja nek nasmijavanja ljudi na exYU

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    12. Q400

      Hahahahhahaha! Great one!

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    13. Alene, sto je s uvodenjem linija za ARN i DUB?

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    14. Alen Šćuric PurgerFebruary 17, 2017 at 4:06 PM

      Kod Kučka, dok ne vidim ne vjerujem.

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    15. You forgot QF Zagreb-Perth Boeing 797 starting soon!

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    16. Bravo, Zagreb!

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    17. 797?
      You're working on that project?

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  11. Ruski hibrid, putnicki avion SSJ100, na koji se ugradjuju motori , APU, avionics i druge komponente zapadne tehnologije, su povoljniji za kupovinu u odnosu na avione Kanadske i Brazilske proizvodnje. Po svemu ostalom Suhoj SSJ100 zaostaje iza zapadnih konkurenata. Neke razloge su napisali neko odprednih ucesnika na ovom blogu. Svakako da je prihvatljiviji SSJ10 od starih ATR i drugih turbo propa. Ne racunajuci potrosnju goriva, podrazumeva se. Ipak do sada Rusija nije proizvela ni jedan tip putnickog aviona koji bi se poredio sa Boingom, Erbasom i manjim prizvodjacima zapadne proizvodnje.
    Za buducnost ne tvrdim da se nece hjednaciti...
    Do sada to nisu. Doduse imao sam jedan let do sada na Ruskom TU 154M, FRA - BUD, prije 24 godine. Takodje sam imao priliku da pregledam siroko trupni Iljusin IL96, tkoddje u prije dvadesetak godina na Melnburnskom airshow u Avalonu. Izuzev susreta sa avionima Ruske proizvodnje na aerodromima po svetu, drugog iskustva nemam. Mozda ce u buducnosti biti bolje
    srece. Naravno, Er Srbija ih detaljnije posmatra. Pa kako odluci. Osalo je irelaventno. Ukljucujuci mene na ovom forumu.
    Rodney + Sydney

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    1. Zaboravio si napisati Rodney:

      SSJ kupuju samo Brozovi učenici.

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    2. Možda dobro zvuči za neku unutrašnju spiku u Hrvatskoj, ali to nije tačno.

      Broz je bio gospodin čovek. U SFRJ su se kupovali američki Boeingzi, McDonnell Douglasi i francuske Caravelle, ne sovjetski avioni.

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    3. Nisi u pravu, jat je na pocetku imao samo ruske avione a kad je doslo do tvrdih odnosa sa Staljinom onda je Ticko dbio pare od Amera i uslov ds mora da se kupi americka roba pa su tako stigli zapadni DC3 i Convair...

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    4. Tito je raskrstio sa Staljinom posle samo tri godine. Od 35 godina na vlasti, 32 su se kupovali američki i francuski avioni. Po meni je 32 mnogo, mnogo više od 3.

      Nije postojao nikakav uslov da se kupuje američka roba. To je izmišljotina. Tako su možda radili sovjeti. Amerikanci sa Jugoslavijom nikada. Amerikanci su poštovali Jugoslaviju i trudili se da ne učine ništa što bi Beograd približilo Moskvi.

      Usto, karavele nisu američka roba. A kupljene su za JAT kada su Francuska i SAD zahladili odnose.

      Isto su radili i njegovi nastavljači osamdesetih, ili kako ih ti zoveš "učenici". Kupovali američku i evropsku robu, uključujući i Boinge ATRove koju danas u JU floti.

      Da je htela, Jugoslavija je mogla da kupuje tupoljeve, iljušine i antonove za JAT, ali to nije nikome padalo na pamet.

      Jugoslavija je bila ozbiljna država, nekih deset puta ozbiljnija i uglenija nego sve njene naslednice zajedno.

      Nažalost mnogo se više isplati šutirati mrtvog lava nego govoriti istinu.

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  12. Montenegro Airlines should get some........if they could afford them

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    1. Agree completely. Would best serve their needs.

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    2. You don't need SSJ to go bankrupt.

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    3. What would SSJ offer to YM that E195 can't already deliever?

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    4. 3-2 configuration

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    5. And why is 3-2 better than 2-2?

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    6. It looks more beautiful on the brochures so it will be easier to sell tickets.

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  13. OT:
    When is the leasing contract ending for ALT, ALU and ALV?

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    1. Ugovori o lizingu za svih 10 aviona su potpisani na neodredjeno vreme uz klauzulu da se prekid ugovora mora najaviti 9 meseci pre vracanja aviona. Do sada ni jedan avion nije zatrazen nazad i za nijedan avion AS nije najavila vracanje.
      Sasvim je ocekivano da ih vracaju od 2019 do kada ce stici neki od 320neo

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    2. Зашто би било очекивано да их враћају од 2019.? НЕО и Атр нису у истој групи ваздухоплова.

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    3. I meant the leased ATR fleet YU-ALT-ALV not the A319/320 fleet, which is YU-APA-APJ.
      greetings from BSL-LX

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  14. Great aircraft overall, cabin very nicely designed, quiet and comfortable with a 2+3 layout in economy and approx. 100 pax configuration. Can have 2 x (2x2) for business class. I flew the SSJ several times and we never had any issues. Technology / avionics are Western made. SU has 30 of them in service and additional 20 on order so the aircraft must be good.
    If the price is right and appropriate tech support provided I don't see any issue, it is much better than the ATR and definitively can be used on routes that are not that full for A319.

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    1. So if SU has it it has to be OK? SU had also Tupolev 204 because of directive from state of Russia, so was it OK plane also?

      Non of western company (exempt tinny insignificant one) has SSJ in fleet. It mast be shit!

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    2. I also flew SSJ several times. I love it. From my perspective as a passenger it is a great plane. I suppose there is to much politics around that plane.

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    3. Aeroflot is really an example of completely independent airline, yes.

      Is there any concidence they were the first airline to order SSJ with a 4-year silence until another Russian airline ordered it? Does it also surprise you they were the first to order Irkut MC-21?

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    4. As much as it surprises that Lufthansa was the first to order the A320neo or that the major US airlines were behind all of the Boeing designs up to the early 90's.

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    5. There is too much politics for one and simple reason, which is to keep the Boeing/Airbus duopoly and tarnish all competition either by inventing issues through oversimplified mantras or exaggerating the existing ones. The truth is, B787 spent more days on the ground since its launch than the SSJ100 and the later never experienced wing-cracks or in-flights uncontained engine failures like the A380.

      https://www.atsb.gov.au/media/2891294/vh-oqa-fig7.jpg

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    6. ...not to mention the battery fires we saw on the B787. Also, we all praise the DC-10 but no one mentions the TK crash in France which was caused by a faulty design of the cargo door.

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    7. SU is a reputable carrier and has improved greatly its service in the past years, even got a 4 star Skytrax rating so do not be so biast. We can only wish that JU would get to their standards and service level! SSJ makes about 20% of their fleet so for sure that plane is worth considering. Why think that everything that comes from the West is superior?

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    8. ...or that everything that doesn't come from the West is 'inferior' and not 'independant'? So if it would come from the West or if JU/SU or any other carrier would choose Boeing/Airbus then they would be "independent"?

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    9. Sukhoi is a bit to blame here too. Few years back, pre launch they sent an unfinished aircraft around the airshow circuit presenting an aircraft which was not anywhere near in presentable condition. Wasn't a good look.

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    10. How would you then describe 787 rollout on July 8, 2007? Mockup of 787?

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    11. @Anonymus at 5:55 PM: SSJ never experienced structural cracks?? You should update your knwoledge with the news of all SSJs grounded in December due to metal fatique issues in the stabilizer.

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  15. Montenegro airlines could by it to replace there fokker fleet and add more aircraft. Maybe they could order 4 or 5

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    2. ASL svakako treba RJ flota da se obnovi nije trenutno bitno koji ce to biti proizvodjac posto su mnoge Aviokompanije iz Evrpope popravile svoje finansisko stanje i tako obnavljaju flotu sto bi bilo i odlicno da u tome ASL uspe sto bi dosta znacilo BEG.
      INN-NS

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    3. Леба ти, што бришеш сваку поруку два пута???

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  17. ASL will not purchase any new planes, ASL will not purchase this one nor they finish new A320NEO order... they leave that concept.

    ASL go to hybrid/low fare model this year and will shrink network for 17% YOY, they already cancel flights to IST they will cancel AUH also.

    Rumor say that ASL will wet lease 3 planes to AB.

    Interesting time for ASL is ahead of us.


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