Tuesday, May 16, 2017

Air Serbia unveils new seats


Air Serbia has presented its new slimline seats for its narrow-body Airbus fleet, which are designed to take less space, enabling the carrier to install additional rows of seating. The new Recaro BL3520 seats will increase capacity on the A319 aircraft from 128 to 144 seats and on the A320s from 155 to 174 seats, growing by more than 12% in total across the narrow-body fleet. Air Serbia will be installing 1.500 Recaro seats in total over the coming weeks. Despite the capacity increase, the seats offer passengers more space by having a leaner backrest and a higher literature pocket. Normally placed in the knee area, the pocket has been placed above the tray table, allowing for more legroom compared to the existing cabin product. Currently, the first of ten Airbuses (registered YU-API) is being refitted. Along with the new seats, the A319 and A320 cabin change includes new carpets, curtains and floor path markings to match the on board décor of the A330, which serves New York. The product on board the wide-body jet remains unchanged with eighteen lie-flat seats in business and 236 seats in economy class.


As part of the refit, the business class section of the narrow-body fleet will now feature the same seats as in economy, however, the middle seat will be kept empty for extra space. The cabin will be separated from the economy class section by a movable divider, enabling Air Serbia to adapt the number of seats according to travel demand. Up to twelve seats will now be available in business class depending on the seating configuration. The airline noted that other business class perks, such as the dine anytime menu with a selection of à la carte meals and an iPad loaded with films, TV shows and music, remain intact. Passengers in both business and economy will continue to have access to wireless Internet service for a fee and both cabins will have the ability to stream movies, music and TV shows through the Elevate Play application, which is free of charge.

Commenting on the new product, Air Serbia's CEO, Dane Kondić, said, “The Recaro seats are space-efficient, much lighter and provide more legroom for guests thanks to their modern design. The new seats are roughly 2.6 kilograms lighter than our older-generation seats, which will cut down the empty weight of our A320 and A319 fleet by more than 3.500 kilograms, reducing fuel consumption and carbon emissions". He added, “The increase in seat capacity is equivalent to Air Serbia adding an extra Airbus jet to its fleet and will at the same time improve the inflight product and comfort levels. This will make Air Serbia more competitive, substantially reduce unit costs, drive revenue growth and bring our seat density up, meaning we can better meet travel demand during the summer. Many of the biggest airlines in Europe, America and Asia have installed the Recaro seat, which is a testament to its winning combination of comfortable design and functionality”.

Existing buisness class (top) and economy class (bottom) product

Aircraft featuring the new on board seating product are expected to progressively enter commercial service from today onwards. Speaking to EX-YU Aviation News last month, Mr Kondić announced the overhaul of the narrow-body fleet cabins, noting, "The more seats you have on an aircraft type, the more you can lower what's called your CASK (cost per ASK - available seat kilometres). In the airline industry, the critical metric is one of CASK. You have to get as low as possible a seat cost, offering as many seats as possible. That's why low cost airlines have so many seats. We are not doing that clearly. We are looking at slimmer seats, through which you can get greater density without actually changing so much the seat pitch. We have the older generation seats which are heavy as well. The new ones are not only lighter but allow you to put in more without reducing guest comfort".

132 comments:

  1. They actually don't look bad. Should have had them from the start. Shame about business class though (the seats I mean).

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    1. I was thinking the same thing. It's one of the only airlines in Europe to have a REAL business class. They're positioned well geographically to make it appealing enough, otherwise the only other major carriers with a proper business cabin on their flights is Turkish and Aeroflot.

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    2. The fact that they were one of the few remaining airlines to have a dedicated business cabin while others got rid of them long ago, probably says alot ... you can't swim against the tide forever

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  2. Wow, its exactly the seats that Croatia Airlines has for 6 years now :)

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    1. Wow, that's great.

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    2. And even with old generation seats, JU managed to build and grow their business to surpass OU.

      That says everything about how OU have managed their business.

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    3. Aren't these the same seats as Aegean ? If so, it hasn't harmed their continued growth so i don't see the reason for all the gloom and doom prophets - except another reason for the usual hate brigade to come out in force to bang their hate drums

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    4. Aegean actually manages to grow, JU's problems are much greater than the design of the seats. Also, JU is extremely loss making, unlike Aegean.

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    5. But JU have had 3 consecutive years of growth. They have also been profitable in 2014 an 2015. 2016 we don't know yet.

      So what is your point if the facts are facts ?

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    6. Anon @ 8.54pm has very strong facts and arguments. JU is extremely loss making because he says so, ok ??

      Leave the guy alone

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    7. ** sorry, i meant that anon @8.42pm had very facts

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    8. "And even with old generation seats, JU managed to build and grow their business to surpass OU. That says everything about how OU have managed their business."

      What's that burning smell? Oh, BURRRRRN!!! You win the comment of the day, thank you! There should be a prize for the comment of the day, like a gift card or something!

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  3. Meh... I wish we would hear about new destinations, younger Atrs joining the fleet and more frequencies throughout the network. All of this is quite disheartening.
    Unfortunately seems like Dane and his team did not manage to set up a hub at BEG which is why they have way too many aircraft in order to serve their business model which will mostly cater for the needs of the p2p market.

    I think the time is right for a new CEO. This one has proven he is not up for the task.

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    1. There will be no expansion or investments into fleet/product. This comes from the overall situation in Etihad which is currently in the emergency mode. Until this whole mess with their "equity alliance" is cleaned up we won't see anything but cost cuts in Air Serbia.

      My prediction: next expansion in 2020, if we are lucky.

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    2. Bye Dane, your time is over...

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    3. Unfortunately I think he is here to stay. :(

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    4. Anonymous 9:13 is correct. It's hard to believe but we might even see the end of Etihad. Apparently they have already approached Emirates to float the idea of a takeover by Emirates of Etihad. Not sure how that will work with the 2 hubs in the UAE but it gives an indication of how bad the situation is over at Etihad.

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    5. .... this would also explain the dramatic changes we have now seen with Air Serbia in the recent months. More forced than planned in my opinion. But they will be better off financially for it. Shame about the old business class seats though. That could have really been what kept JU separate from the rest.

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    6. I do not believe anyone is thinking about taking over EY.

      http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/emirates-airline-profits-70-percent-past-year-47340918

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    7. Sure, let's get rid of Dane and bring back one of the old JAT guys - that would work wonders. Better yet, let's get someone from the Govt, they would do a hell of a better job as they did before Etihad got involved.

      People seem to conveniently forget the state that Jat was in back in August 2013.

      Be careful what you wish for.

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    8. Time for a new CEO ? Why, because you say so or because you don't like their decision regarding these new seats ?

      There is a Board which approves such a decision and if the company has decided to go down this path, it is because the Board supports this decision and they are the ones who decide on who stays and who goes - not me, you or anyone else.

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    9. He keeps asking for it every day as if his opinion matters lol! Sad little creature!

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    10. 19.21, 19.33 and 19.38 is one and the same person. Maybe it's Dane himself.

      So you are saying that we can't do better than Dane and that the only alternative is getting a Jat-style CEO? Hmm... interesting logic... not.

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    11. You seem to have all the answers... you're just the guy they need. You should apply for the position, then you don't need to share all your wisdom with everyone here and instead, you can put it to better use where it is needed

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  4. Those are exactly the same seats that Croatia Airlines had for the last 5 years :)

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    1. I think they are the same ones Aegean has, they are ok on flights up to 2 hours but anything over that is quite unpleasant.

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    2. Do the seats recline?

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    3. Actually they don't because the cabins are fitted with the maximum number of seats. If the backs reclined you would be in the lap of the person behind you.
      It's the same cabin as Wizz and easyJet.

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    4. easyJet has 156 seats on A319 so this is definetely not going to be easyJet cabin.

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    5. Easyjet can justify their cabin config by offering decent fares. Let's see what JU does.

      Btw from last week all agents were notified that tickeys to Germany will be increased by €25 onecway

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    6. Seats do recline, but honestly, they should have put seats that DON'T. There is no reason why any SANE person would choose to recline his/her seat on a short flight.

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    7. They do recline excep in the emergency exit row. The only other airlines that has exact same seats is WestJet from Canada and newer LH aircrafts. No they are not the same as Croatia airlines.

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    8. Super argument ! And look where OU is now and what they have achieved in the 5 years since they installed these seats.

      In fact, let's go back 25 years and see what OU have done with the clean sheet that they started with.

      JU managed to sweep past OU and do more with "old generation" seats in the 3.5 they have had them than what OU have managed to do.

      So let's wait for JU to have these seats for the same 5 years that OU have had so we can see what they will do and then maybe we can fairly judge what they achieve with the same product over the same period.

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    9. Wow dude. Comparing a state owned company without any government help and the one that didn't pay BEG for years a dime and Etihad behind their back. Really a winning argument.

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    10. Dude... they had govt help for the first 20 or so years until they entered EU mandated restructuring a few years back, is not a worthy comeback at all.

      Air Serbia has been in existence for 3.5 years - not 25 years.

      OU started with a clean slate - brand new, no legacy issues or old debt to manage, with a booming inbound market - far and away THE best in the entire region - and they still managed to get themselves into EU restructuring due to previous years of state aid and poor management.

      And how do they solve it ? Sell slots, engines, bus service and everything else but the kitchen sink - thus far.

      Now if that's not a winning argument, i really don't know what is

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  5. So...what are the exit and bulkhead rows?

    (Reluctant to pay extra on current seat plan since I cant beleive there wont be a shift)

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    1. (Wasnt carefull enough- no bulkhead row!)

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  6. Well I do like that the interior will now render the one on the A330.

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  7. when will the uveil of NEOs cancellation take place?
    what happened with pre-delivery payments?
    taxpayers got screwed again?

    i guess those 6 weeks that took to form an airline weren't enough to carefully asses the market and pick sensible strategy?

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  8. hm, these small daily JU-doses look like little propaganda. Thank god for the free commenting though!

    Unimpresed with every new change, sorry to say that.

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    1. Agreed. Like free commercials for them. And that for a design, that really looks like 80's style to me. (I know, now the fanboy's bashing will start...)

      On the other hand, seems like nothing really exciting is happening in ex yu's aviation industry at the moment, from that side I understand it.

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    2. I think it's normal to report when an airline is completely changing their product. You would probably be the first to cry that they are not reporting it to protect Air Serbia. I remember well there was a whole article when Croatia Airlines changed its cabin. Its around the same time I started following this site.

      You could also say that this is a free commercial for Croatia Airlines
      http://www.exyuaviation.com/2017/05/croatia-airlines-gears-up-for-expansion.html

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  9. not as bad as I thought it would look like.

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    1. Visually not bad but awful to sit on it..i.e. it is like sitting on a bench!

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  10. Economically correct but I'm asking myself why should I book business in future? These seats were realy great compared to the new ones.

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    1. Agree. There is no incentive to fly business anymore.

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    2. Flying on crappy business class on LH, AF or BA makes sense because they are mega airlines with massive global networks. Many people do it because of miles and convenience but what incentive do they have to fly with JU? None.

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    3. There is no incentive to fly regional fligts on C-class in Europe anyways. Smart airlines realized this a long time ago. Actually, for me it's quite a convenience to have the seat next to me empty. Gives me privacy when I have to do some working, which you can't on the classic biz seats.

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    4. People seem to forget that most of biz class pax (in Europe) are:
      - those connecting on long haul biz class (major carriers have plenty of those)
      - executives whose companies pay for those expensive tickets (and Serbia and SEE doesn't have many of those)

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    5. Vi se naravno nikada niste vozili biznis klasom.

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    6. Meni su ta sedišta bili JEDINI incentive da si ponekada priuštim business, mada uglavnom na milje. Sve ostalo (osim obroka u avionu) već imam zahvaljujući statusu, pa sada zapravo nema nikakve razlike između 2A i 4A osim u par stotina evra... Budala jesam, ali tolika nisam.

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    7. When you have 20-30% LF in biz class, it's time to give it up. Very few people travel in business class on sectors which are barely more than 2 hours long. That's why bigger airlines in Europe so the wisdom and removed dedicated biz class cabins and instead, adopted what Air Serbia are now doing. It gives far more flex to accommodate more economy cls pax. The only i have is they should have done this from the get go. Still, can't fault them for trying. It did much for their brand recognition

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    8. Agreed. The thing is, now they need to have a really affordable C in order for anyone at all to buy it. Maybe a 50 EUR surcharge on Y tickets, or something like that. But, if noone does, it's not a problem - these seats can be used as Y seats anyway.

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  11. "The more seats you have on an aircraft type, the more you can lower what's called your CASK (cost per ASK - available seat kilometres)."

    Champion you gotta fill the seats first and at a price that makes you money.

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    1. no you dont. 10 and 20eur seats don't make money for W6 and FR.

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  12. Interesting they are not putting these in the ATRs.

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    1. They already had their cabins refurbished and I think the expense is to great just to add 4 more seats on a relatively archaic fleet (ALP, ALO and ALN)

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    2. They refurbished them to have the same looking seats like in the current Airbuses. But I agree. Maybe it's a sign they may be thinking about getting rid of them.

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    3. With all the route reductions, attempts to lease out aircraft and an A330 that spends more time laying idle perhaps JU are looking at finally getting rid of the ATRs and replacing them with nothing.
      JUs days of existence disminishes daily. At least Serbia will have an expanded Wizz and Ryan network to choose from

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    4. ATR is a completely different aircraft to the A319/320... you can't put these Recaro seats on the ATR

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  13. Same seats like everywhere else. The good thing is the improved pitch.

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  14. I think these should be ok on European flights as most are around two hours. What worries me is how will the passengers on flights to Tehran, Almaty and Baku feel. These will be some of the longer flights where comfort kind of matters.

    ;)

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    1. And who announced Tehran, Almaty and Baku since the airline didn't.

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    2. Chairman of the board did.

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    3. The same people who announced New York?

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    4. Chairman of the board said they would CONSIDER Tehran and Almaty. Baku is something you made up in your head.

      - The Chairman of the Air Serbia Supervisory Board and the Mayor of Belgrade, Siniša Mali, has said the airline is CONSIDERING launching flights to Kazakhstan following talks with the regional governor of the central Asian republic's largest province of Almaty. Air Serbia has made no comments on the matter.
      http://www.exyuaviation.com/2016/08/air-serbia-considering-kazakhstan.html

      - The Chairman of the Air Serbia Supervisory Board, Siniša Mali, noted, "We will undertake a FEASIBILITY STUDY and hold talks with Iran Air over potential expenses on the route.
      http://www.exyuaviation.com/2016/09/air-serbia-plans-tehran-service-by-mid.html

      So next time, get your facts straght.

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    5. Well, the chairman or the airline never came forward to say that they have given up on their intention to launch flights. Given that an ASA has been signed with Iran we can still consider taht there is a chance these flights might take place.
      After all, I think we all agree that Iranians deserve to fly on the new wings of Europe.

      So stop being so selective when it comes to the facts you are serving here buddy.

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    6. Baku flights were announced by Vucic about two years ago during his visit to the country

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    7. ^ Actually flights were not announced. Hope was expressed that flights would be established and JU was not even mentioned anywhere. It's really easy just to do a search on this site. It has everything recorded. It's easier than making things up
      http://www.exyuaviation.com/2015/09/serbia-and-azerbaijan-eye-future-flights.html

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    8. With agreements being signed it seems like things are moving in the right direction which is why these seats might be an issue. I guess IKA will be the first to happen.

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    9. Nothing was announced LOL Stop making up stories guys, Vucic's wishes and propaganda can not be considered as an announcement.

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    10. I agree with Anon 10.02
      JU has no announced anything besides that it's suspending routes left and right. BUD, WAW, VARm IST...

      Then again, maybe it's not bad when they suspend a destination because then their competition actually expands. Look at KK and LO.

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    11. And can somebody remind us what Serbian minister of Transport Zorana Mihajlovic made up, was it flights to Brazil via New York? Link would be appreciated :D

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    12. That was actually MEX :D

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    13. Haha it was Mexico but this site doesn't seem to have reported that :D because of obvious reasons I guess.

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    14. <3

      http://www.telegraf.rs/vesti/politika/1900309-produzeni-let-zorana-produzava-liniju-za-ameriku-do-meksika

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  15. I think this move makes absolute sense. It's been almost four years since Air Serbia was launched and I am certain they used this period to reflect on aviation trends so as to become wiser. I guess this is the product of their deep soul-searching... to become a lowcost with high fares. Sounds like a success story.

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    1. Sounds like Croatian A. loosing money. Do we need that?
      Njihova biznis klasa je prosto bila preskupa za profil kompanije. Ovako sada sa novim sedistima je cista glupost. Jedino ce moci da rade chartere nocu sa ovim istim avionima. Verovatno se resavaju Avioleta.

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    2. Biz klasa je bila preskupa. Nudili su je po istoj ceni kao lh ali bez njihovog brenda I prepoznatljivosti

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    3. @ 9:39 AM
      good one :)

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    4. Verovatno u bordu imaju dosta prepametnih dinkicevaca koji
      se zahebavaju sa drzavnim novce cekajuci da sve propadne. Ne mozes ti da prodas butik aviokompaniju na svim avionima i na svim linijama i po istim cenama kao Dojceri i jos da ih letis sa prastarim Boinzima i ATR. Sada ce imati kopiju CA i slicne porazne ekonomske rezultate. Briljantni Kucko trijumfuje. Njegova ekonomska misao oplemenjuje region.

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  16. Where are those seats being refitted, in Belgrade or somewhere else?

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    1. Jat Tehnika... I wonder if they were forced to do it for free or if the government paid for it.

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    2. 'Forced for free', where do you live?

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    3. That doesn't exist so stop your bullshit.

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  17. The good thing is that they are getting real for the first time. Having 124 seats in an 319 is CRAZY! They finally get awake by the reality they are facing. Unfortunately it shows a lot about the people that planned and conceived the initial boutique idea in a fiercely competitive environment in a country with very low purchasing power. It is not Virgin America in California but a company that must fight the likes of Ryanair and Wizzair. In the end time will show what becomes of JU!

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    1. Actually, boutique came only once their legacy carrier model collapsed. After boutique came the hybrid so let's see what's next.

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    2. So what is "hybrid" anyway ?

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  18. I was intersted in these seats so I googled them. From BL series, the actual model is BL3530, and not the BL3520.

    The last BL3520 delivery I could find from Recaro was in JAN15 to airberlin.

    So, this smells like a second-hand purchase. Wonder where they got it actually.

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    1. A batch of seats destined for Air Berlin were given to Air Serbia. Both have the same owner.

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    2. So Air Serbia didn't pay for these? Maybe they should also add that to their press release to add how much more they save :D

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    3. ...or maybe it's Air Serbia who paid the seats they don't need, for aircraft that are gonna to be retired, cause Air Berlin couldn't?

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  19. OT:

    To my dear friends at SMATSA who were on duty last night, thank you ever so much for granting Cavok Air a pretty direct corridor smack-centre over Belgrade at 03:10AM, flying full blast at 24,000FT with an AN-12 from LCA to BRQ.

    Took me an hour to calm down my 93 year old grandma and tell her its not April 6th 1941... while the rest of the family sent you their really ''warmest'' wishes...

    Try give them a bypass next time round, ha? :-)

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    1. They did right and they should do it again.

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  20. There is nothing new to be said about Recaro seats other than they SUCK big time for padding and respective comfort. Bad decision with regards to removal of true business class seats. Adios JU business class and Welcome back to Aeroflot on all future flights to/from SVO. Simple as that!

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  21. Dobar potez Er Srbije. Klijentelu koju opsluzuje na Evropskim rutama. Platezna moc putnika iz Srbije je veoma skromno za normalan standard. Samom promenom dela kabinskog enterijera i sedista, kompanija je povecala kapacitet za vise od dva ATR-a. Sto se tice flote A319 i 320. Povecanjem broja putnika moze i treba se smanjiti cena karata. Samim tim, putnici i gledaju za mogucnost sto manjih cena. To se u dobrom delu sveta dugo vremena praktikuje. U jugoistocnoj Evropi, naravno od skorijeg vremena. Tu jos dosta vlada otpor monopolizma. Ali ipak "cracking in". Svemu polako dolazi kraj. Pa i da prostite monopolizmu i drzavnoj zastiti. Bolje reci "muzom" porezkih obaveznika.
    Dolai valjda i tu vreme da su sa nizim cenama puniji i hoteli i avioni i ostalo. Ostavlja se djep onih koji placaju porez i ostale dazbine mirniji. Verujem da ce nova flota koja stize od iduce godine biti prilagodjena uslovima trzista i konkurencije na njemu. Sto se tice interkontinentalnog letenja tu su uslovi drugaciji. A flota Boeing- a 733, obzirom na carter koji obavljaju nemoze mnogo bolje ni biti. "Koliko para, toliko muzike." Na kraju iskreno verujem u buduce velike promene. Kako u razvoju flote, tako u preporodu aerodroma Nikola Teala i razvoja Niskog, Kraljevacke Morave i Ponikvi. Za sada. Topli jesenji pozdrav iz zimske rezidencije.
    Home of Qantasville I Kings Park Sydney, Australia.

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    1. Rodney with all respect but you are wrong! These seats are autrocious to sit on for more than 1 hr. Very very uncomfortable!

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    2. Pazi smanjenje cene karata. Cita misli Danetu, gata u karte i aerodrome.

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    3. Postovani Anon 11:12 AM.
      Oprostite sto gresim po vasem zakljucku. Licno mi je iskustvo putnika sa preletenih do sada 4500 sati leta u zadnjih 48 godina od kada sam prvi put poleteo na Qantas-ovom B707 iz Beca za Sydney, do sada, aprila. Leteo sam i letim na svakom tipu aviona, svim vrstama sedista. Ukljucujuci i ove novije generacije, "sleem seats". Kada vrlo lako vec 76 puta letim povratne letove izmedju Australije i Evrope, a Vama tri sata leta je "tvrdo". Common man. You kidding me. Stavite jastuce.
      Sorry mate.
      Spozdravom,
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    4. When you started flying 48 years ago the seats were completely different and were actually comfortable, today the opposite. FYI I have been an Aeroplan gold member AC for 6 consecutive years and Elite Plus (gold status with Sky Team) for the past 10 years. I didn't keep track of hours flown but I have a fair bit of my life spent in the air due to the nature of my business. Actually about your pillow idea whenever I can "steal" the pillow from business class I do it! )) Any other ideas you can share?

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  22. Nova kabina izgleda kao da je od ruskog Aeroflota a ne Air Serbia

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  23. Cattle class looks fancy I dare to say. More people will be cramped but this is the only way to compete with LCC and also if they decide to launch BEG-INI in the future to compete with FR and W6 southwards.

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  24. I purchased a few days ago BEG-TIV-BEG cheapest ticket online on ASL site and it was 15008RSD (122E)! Shame on degrading all services for that price! UAAA ASL!!!

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    1. A ti se vozi Montenegrom..

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    2. Yoh can't have cheap tickets in the region because taxes come up to 60 euros on the flights.

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    3. Anon 1:41 you are absolutely correct I could fly Montenegro even for a few bucks less but that is not the point, as a Serbian citizen I prefer to leave my money within the Serbian economy. However it doesn't excuse ASL for downgrading it's product(s). If we use you logic one by one every passenger should start looking for other options and alternative carriers...what will the end result be for ASL then? On the other hand your comment as posted is kind of rude! You need to change your mindset for your own good!

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    4. I'm guessing you're travelling in Y - so, what's worse?

      1) Charging for airport check-in. Well, you obviously know how to use the internet and will be able to access bag drop off counter (or bypass check-in altogether) if you use online check-in;

      2) Slim Recaro seats - more legroom, actually, for Y pax, though less cushion. For a 40 minute flight, it's not a big difference anyway;

      3) Seat selection at a charge - it will set you back 300 RSD, I know, a terrible amount, but you can always wait 4 hrs before departure and choose from remaining seats at no charge.

      That said, prices to Montenegro are high, but that's the result of the duopoly on the route. Any airline in the same position would charge at least that much, regardless of the onboard amenities or the lack thereof. Just look at the JU/OS duopoly on the VIE route.

      I would like to see something like DO&CO catering OS offers - I would be happy to pay for a good meal, while dried up piece of bread is just a poor excuse for food. Nobody likes it, and at the same time, it's costing money. I would prefer an apple, a pear or a clementine, or a real meal at a surcharge. I'm sure JU Catering would be able to deliver decent meals - flown their C couple of times, and the offer was more than fine.

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    5. '4 hrs before departure and choose from remaining seats at no charge.'

      Nope, if you don't pay then the system automatically assigns you a seat in the middle.

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  25. I notice there are no longer movable headrests.

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  26. According to Expertflyer.com this morning YU-APJ has flown to TLV (JU810) with seat configuration 8J/132Y. The same will happen on JU324 to DUS this evening.

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  27. Wasn't today supposed to be an official announcement on the BEG-PEK flights?
    Doubt it will happen this year

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    1. Vucic just announced that there will be news about it soon and the Chinese PM just said that this new route will be vital. So it's happening.

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    2. when Chinese are promising something it's better to see where the sun is :)

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    3. Kako stvari stoje za sada nema nista od toga

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    4. Predsednik (ili premijer posto se ne sta je on tacno) jos nije smislio adekvatnu pricu kako da kaze i saopsti istinu. Bojim se da ce biti isto kao i sa MIG29 pricom.

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    5. Will be this year, in the second half.
      Hainan seriously working on it.

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    6. The same way they seriously work on Zadar and Zagreb flights?

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  28. Slim seats will enable flight attendants easier and faster cabin cleaning, lost & found and security checks...

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  29. Ovaj nikad nije leteo Aeroflotom (Anon 11:05)
    Za vašu informaciju, Aeroflot sedišta i kabinu možete da guglate ..., pre nego što ovde pišete!

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  30. The number of comments posted these past 2 days proves how popular Air Serbia really is - topics related to anything other than Air Serbia don't generate anywhere near the same amount of comments.

    Proving yet again how good this forum is to promote Air Serbia - so smart of them !

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  31. OT:

    INI will now have the letters in Cyrillic! After the refurbs it will be quite nice:

    https://flyfromnis.blogspot.com.es/2017/05/foto-vest-postavljen-novi-cirilicni-natpis-na-putnickom-terminalu.html

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  32. Admin, this statement is wrong :

    "...Currently, the first of ten Airbuses (registered YU-API) is being refitted...."

    In fact, YU-APJ has already been refitted and flies with new cabin seat configuration.

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  33. It is really fun reading anti Air Serbia comments. It's easy to recognize most were made by the same people who, in 2013, said that Air Serbia will never get Airbus planes, they will never improve service over JAT, USA will never give them permission to fly to JFK and the list goes on and on. It's fascinating that those people never look themselves in the mirror and say "I was such an idiot to write those obviously wrong things!". Instead they just keep pouring more nonsense on how thin seats and auxillary revenue will destroy Air Serbia! In a couple of years you will see how wrong you were, but that won't help as you didn't learn anything last time. What a special group we have here to make us laugh! Thank you Air Serbia haters, you bring absolutely no airline knowledge but the entertainment value is outstanding!

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    1. API & APJ are completed.

      YUAPG is in the hangar, I believe it should be next.

      Tried the seat personally yesterday on JU810, they are not bad, descent leg room and they DO recline. Suitable for up to 2:30hrs....for longer I wouldn't want to be there.

      Cheers :)

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  34. Good move JU. Personally I like the new seats. Tried the same Recaro seat recently flying with OS and it was surprisingly comfortable and a lot more knee room than I expected.

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  35. Will the refurbishment be finished till the end of June? I will be flying to Split at the end of July and would be delighted to try the new seat.. What do u think? I don't wanna fly on B733 for that reason for not being enough A319 because they are in the hangar for refurb.....Thanks!

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    1. Maybe you should post that question on fb or twitter? I'm sure ASL would reply to you in some way. But to be honest, do to operation changes, even if your airbus with new seats is assigned for Split, you may end up getting a tail swap...

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