wow. Congrats!

Now comes the million Dollar question... where will they place a whole new terminal?

I am impressed by the fact that they plan on doing all this in the next five years. Great news for BEG, JU and other airlines to fly out of there.

WOW I can't wait to see the new terminal design!!! I hope they make it beautiful and fully functional!!!

How long did other airports need to build a new terminal? Five years seem too fast.

Interesting. New facilities are bigger than the new terminals in Sarajevo and Ljubljana.

Why do they need a new runway? Really unnecessary.

It's not too fast. Zagreb's new terminal took 3 years I think and it is a bit larger than the 42,000 square meters planned for BEG.

So much for all the naysayers.

Long-term planning. Ledine and Surcin are growing all around the airport, not to mention Dobanovci which will soon become one with Belgrade. If you look at the Belgrade-Zagreb highway, it's full of warehouses and so on. They are probably going to build it while there is more than enough land.

@Nemjee, they can build it right next to T2. My guess is the 42,000 m2 also includes the extension of the T1 gates.

This is the one proposed by former management
https://i.imgur.com/BvMe8n6.jpg

Fantastic news!

Thumbs up and all the best of luck, BEG!

Pozdrav/Поздрав ot SOF

<3 <3

Nice to read about the car park. I'm also wondering where that will be built??

Could be. If they move the cargo terminal to another location they could extend the terminal beyond A10. That would give them more than enough land.

Lastly they gave up on the stupid idea of inserted runway.

Also BEG already has a covered multi storey car park. Will they leave that in place or will they knock it down?

Maybe they will expand it or they add another few floors?

No one actually knows how much land VINCI got. I think I read somewhere the government transferred them a lot of plots. So there probably lies the answer where all of this will be built.

The funny thing about the deicing platform is that they have to expand it because the former management made a wrong project and built it too small. It's practically useless in its current form.

What are the sizes of the current BEG terminals?

What is the current capacity of that car park?

^ 528 parking spaces

Why am I not surprised.

Its not a new terminal. It is an extension of existing T2 terminal.

So you are saying Ljubljana, Split and Sarajevo are also getting extensions of the terminal because they and joined with another terminal? In fact all those terminals are smaller than 42,000 m2.

BEG has other parking plots too. They could reconstruct those. My guess this is the one right in front of T2.

By that logic, BEG does not have 2 terminals but one because it's under one roof.

True

P1 478 parking spaces
P7 196 parking spaces

Not surprised. Parking is a cash cow for most airports if they operate them. Conveniently, Parking Servis which manages parking lots in Belgrade, handed all of the ones at the airport to VINCI when they won the concession.

Big project. Vlaisavljevic wasn't lying when he said BEG would be transformed within 5 years.

This might actually be the inserted runway no? I don't know where they are going to build it otherwise.

Exciting times for BEG. Should be followed by traffic growth too.

9 new taxiways would indicate to me it is not the inserted runway.

Without railway link to the city BEG will be just a second grade Balkan airport

Its not a new terminal as it wont have own separate gates and jet bridges, it will use existing ones plus new extension.

33,000 sqm,

New terminal is larger than the existing two terminals combines so I'm guessing this will include smaller new terminal of 17,000 sqm like planned by previous management, plus an additional floor for T1 and 2.

Obviously the Vinci wants the current crooks still in power, hence the anonuncement to neutralise the messages from the protests....who knows what's written in that concession deal. I would not be surprised that the bill for construction will be passed to the government (taxpayers)

Who says it won't have separate gates and jet bridges?

Without space shuttle launching platform it will nothing but village airport used by Balkan tribes

New runway in just 5 yrs is a bit unnecessary.

They probably want to build it asap so they can overhaul the existing one.

Yes they signed 260+ million EUR contract with Terma to support Vucic. Please...

And it won't be a separate building, it will lean on existing T2

But they do not need it! Even if pax numbers grow to 10 million they wount need a new runway. The infrastructure is sufficient for the traffic in 20 years.

So Sarajevo, Ljubljana and Split who all say they are getting new terminals are not getting new terminals since they lean on existing terminal?

The guy was responding to comment "so much for all the naysayers". Since he was one of those, he is irritated by today's news and must now find ways to belittle. Let him be.

Bravo Serbija (BEG)
Bravo France (Vinci)
Bravo Greece (Terna)

covered them all :D

My guess is Terma will get shareholding in BEG concession now.

* sorry terna

I personally believe it's a single terminal haha. Just an older and a newer part. I like how ATH has a single terminal with 100+ check-in desks. That's what you get when you build a brand new terminal - no need for several smaller terminals, just one big one. Btw this Greek construction company seems pretty hardcore, especially considering the economic downturn of their country.

Yes, apparently 49% and VINCI with 51%.

People really have a wild imagination on here.

All will be clarified once plans and renders are published. Not everything is new and separate like it was in ZAG. Current BEG is just one big terminal as T1 cant function as a standalone terminal without T2 so from that point of view new terminal is just an extension.

What happened with the metro? Is it going to be built to the airport?

Very likely it will be something like this, which was proposed by Zurich Airport consortium for BEG
https://youtu.be/5pqx5VLH3C8

BEG and LIS will soon have French parents.
Brothers and sisters. A direct route MUST be opened.

The website looks like the BEG one:

https://www.ana.pt/en/lis/home

Yes, on the same way it was done in ZAG

It fits to what Terna announced.

This must be dust in someone's eyes people. Are you aware how much does another runway cost? And - there is absolutely no need for it in BEG! This is same fooling arround as 4K with Adria. Not that I would not like to see growth in any of ex-yu airports, but this is pure nonsense..In 2017 there were aprox 56.000 aircraft movements (IFR and VFR) and in same year, Gatwick had almost 286.000 movements!

Although this is not Vinci's project, it gives a good idea of where everything will be. And this one also features 9 new taxiways, concourse A extension, new terminal and new parking lot
https://youtu.be/5pqx5VLH3C8

I wonder how large traffic airports with single runway manage runway overhaul. STN has only 25mio pax, LTN 16mio, BHX 13mio.

But BEG needs 2 runways to reach 6 mio pax :D

New runway is not necessary in team of passenger number in the next few years. But the existing runway needs reconstruction and for that is necessary that every airport with big potential has other runway. In the case of some unusual conditions and accidents as well.
And what about HOTEL? I think the plan for the next 5 years is fine, just add some decent hotel building to it!

Hotel will probably be built too but it is never developed by the airport operator. They give land and then the chosen hotel chain builds it.

Because this isn't a simple overhaul. It would require the complete closure of the airport. And this was said before. Batajnica was proposed as an alternative in 2016.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_gqh3Tl95o&feature=youtu.be

GTW serves 46 million passengers with a singe runway.

Any observation deck planned for visitors?

Looking forward to a nice, modern look with clean and airy structural design. Good luck, Belgrade!

An airport hotel is far more necessary for the development of BEG than an extra runway.

Anonymous at 11:03
Tie 262 million Euro contract for tie construction is split between the French and tie Greeks in a 51-49% workshare split. The airport company remains under French ownership.

German bank DEG, which gave money for this project and was surely presente with the plans certainly seems to think it's a new terminal. But I guess some experts here know it all.

"The expansion of Belgrade Airport, which was built in 1962, will include the addition of a second runway and a new passenger terminal. This will increase the airport’s maximum capacity to twelve million passengers a year. VINCI Airports will also upgrade the existing terminals and taxiways. The company is one of the leading international airport operators and plans to make Belgrade Airport the company’s base in Central and Eastern Europe in future", the DEG said in a statement.

The construction share is 51% for Terna, 49% for Vinci.

Well, they are specialized in running airports, I guess they know better than you and me. If they think BEG needs a new runway then they have to have a good reason for it.

One way they can expand parking facilities is by turning the lower level parking into a garage and on top of it they can add another parking. I am talking about the one by the arrivals/departures.

So in total BEG will have 75,000 square meters of terminal space. Not bad.

Super vijest!

That would be nice.

Does BEG really have that many transfer passengers with long connections that it needs an airport hotel? You can reach the city centre within 20 minutes by car.

Much needed. Good to hear.

Sve bolje vreme dolazi za BEG ,a u narednim mesecima ce doci i nove aviokompanije.

Did you see that contract? Like Fiat, like Belgrade Waterfront, Air Serbia.... ignorance is bliss.
Next time when going to see a private Md. because the state one will see you in 6 months, think about it

BEG's stated ambition of being a regional hub makes the existence of an airport hotel necessary. If it is combined with some conference facilities it could be very successful.
Also JU's desire to attract transfer passengers instead of just relying on O&D traffic could really use an airport hotel.

I think that would make it the airport with the largest terminal space in the Balkan region too!

Absolutely! But then they just took over the airport and have to make big announcements. Athough they cetrainly have better knowledge if running an airport, commonsense may cath them in some time. Lets see if it is all about being realised or just bragging about things you and me already know do not make sense.

boris
+1000!

And why is that a surprise? BEG is miles ahead of any other exYU airport in terms of traffic volumes.

LGW serves 46 mio pax with a single runway because it has no space to build the second, the third and the fourth. It is not if their wish was to serve so many pax with a single runway (although there`s actually the second one, but they cannot operate both at the same time).

If LGW was in the USA, it would have some 6-7 runways.

Stop that senseless London Gatwick narrative once and for all, please!!! Is it a standard that should be followed? No, it is not. Moreover, Gatwick is now operated by Vinci, and they should know enough about it, right?

And also, Lyon Saint Exipery is also run by Vinci, and I`d say it used to have two runways even with traffic figures well below 6 mio pax/year.

They couldn't have asked for more - new terminal and runway. perfect.

Well, they did say that they plan on building it by 2024. If we suppose BEG keeps on growing at current rate then it should be handling some 7.3 to 7.5 million passengers and a lot more cargo and mail than it does today. Under those circumstances a second runway makes more sense than it does now. I guess we will have to see how things develop in the coming years.

It's not just about passenger flights but cargo and mail as well. If these three keep on growing then the airport will become much busier than it is today. Cargo keeps on growing quite fast.

its not standard. Well, go ahead and build 4 runways while you are at that. Its all over "ko nema za kartu, daj pet karata!" again. LOL. You obviously have no clue how airport functions. Well, srpska posla again I would say. New runway in BEG makes perfect sense with all those new airports in Serbia, booming with business (Morava etc...)

Let me tell you this - I'm in aviation business for more than 25 years. If you need capacity increase, there are many other options at disposal. Like more rapid exit taxiways, new apron, extension of taxiways etc. It is not difficult to enhance significantly the flow on single runway. Yes, just look at Gatwick, or any other single runway airport with way bigger traffic numbers. When airport layout is no longer providing enough spacing for incoming and departing traffic (when there are significant delays in departures due to incoming), then it is sensible to think about new runway. Or if prevaling winds are from different directions and operational needs dictate new departure/landing runway. Until then, its just "ima se, može se"....

Sa dobrim vestima je pocela ova godina za najvecu vazdusnu luku Srbije. Udruzenjem kapitala VINCI Aviation i Grcke TERME, pocetak i efikasna dinamika preobrazaja aerodroma u Beogradu, postaje ostvarenje i radost za ljude koji vole i cene ambicije razvoja. Za skeptike i protivnike razvoja ovog aerodroma ocigledno ove najave Francusko - Grckog konzorcijuma ne prijaju. Citajuci prethodne komentare, delimicno se stice takav utisak.
Ipak preporod Srpske vazdusne luke na Surcine jeste na pocetku.
Ljudski je da se covek raduje. Pogotovo ljudi koji rade ili ce raditi na njemu. Ljudski je i ona druga strana, koja nije u stanju da se raduje i tudjem napretku. Covek je dualno bice i slobodne volje, moze se razumeti razlog...
Srecno Beograde. Sledeca je Aerodrom Morava - Kraljevo. Jun mesec 2019. Pretsednik Drzave je to rekao. Jos pet meseci. Zar ne? Uz naiskrenije pozdrave. ✈🌍✈🌏✈🌎✨☺🔅✈. Rodney.
Kraljevo / Sydney

No, an airport handling just 7,5 million passengers a year does not need a second runway.
Aw was stated many times in this thread there are dozens of airports all over Europe handling multiple times the pax load of BEG with just one runway.
The only ones benefiting from the construction of a second runway and its supporting infrastructure in BEG for the next 15 years are the companies building it. Vinci and Terna.

Anonymous at 13:06
So what is your point exactly? If you can serve so many passengers with only one runway why go through the great expense of building another one?

Lyon had two runways build for when it was serving as a base for the French Air Force. Not to serve less than 6 million passengers.

You do realize that there are airports with less than 20 million passengers that have more than one runway? Just because some airports have one doesn't mean they don't want to have more, Gatwick being a prime example.
In our region airports such as BUD, OTP, SKG... all have more than one runway and they seem to be doing fine.

Like I said, if Vinci believes BEG needs a second runway then I am sure they have good enough reasons for it.

Anyway, it's not like you presented any downsides to having more than one runway. Your argument seems to be: well they have one so we should have one too.

it reminds me of the plans for MBX.....

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-EwrzXyUVbz8/VQUzbPfixUI/AAAAAAAAQPM/xMmWbaU9y54/s1600/beg2025.jpg

Yes. VINCI is in the same league as shady Chinese investors.

There are airports out there that don't have airbridges so BEG doesn't need them either. Planes can be boarded by walking to the plane. It's the same principle as ima se moze se.

The fact is that BEG is not restricted by runway operations and is unlikely to be in the next 10 years. That makes the 2nd runway project kind of a waste of money. Plenty of single airports around Europe besides the ones mentioned above: BGY, SXF, OPO, STR, GLA, LIN, CTA, FAO, NAP, BLQ, BRS, CRL, RIX, SOF, GOT, SVQ, EIN, NTE, ... All of which have more pax traffic than BEG and the first couple are over 15 mio pax/year, something BEG is very unlikely to see in the next 10 years.

And it is possible to renovate the existing runway without building a new one, as they did in LJU years ago. First close first third of the runway, then the last third and then do either slow overnight work on the middle part or close the airport for a week or two to finish the midde part.

And for people saying "it's better to have 2 runway just in case" it's like flying BEG-ZAG with A332 every day instead of AT72, just in case one day you get more passengers than an ATR can handle.

@Anonimous at 14:01

My point is that You don`t seam to quite understand the economics. I do know some figures for railways: a rail track is being exploited at an OPTIMAL level if 30-70% of resources are being used. That said and using the analogy, I can easily tell You that 46 milion pax and single runway is far from the optimal, and that it causes a substantial financial loss to the operator (primarily to the airlines queueing for take off or being on hold to land - which, on the other hand, keeps some of them away from the airport).

And, above all and for no obvious reason, You are making a case where there`s none: a private entity is investing into objects that it is going to run in the coming quarter of a century. It is their money, not public, so therefore, it is also their responsibility to think what should they invest into.

SKG only uses one runway despite being a busier airport than ours. It is building a second because the existing one can not be extended.
HER has only one as do MLA, LCA, ADB, RHO, SOF. All airports with similar or greater traffic volumes than BEG.

@Bor

Dude, are you not too smart, or what? How can you apply "ima se, može se" logic to this specific case? Do we have an investor in whose interest it is to get as much money as possible out of this arrangement or not? We do. And, still, the investor is investing some serious money into the new runway. What does that tell you?

To hell with Your stupid Gatwick case - VINCI operates Gatwick, you genius, and they are more into airport business than you seem to be.

Stop typing complete and utter nonsenses!

Vinci will be the entity along with the Greeks who will construct the second runway and the rest of the expansion! So it is a nice way to transfer money from left pocket to right pocket and at the same time report less profits as an airport operator to be taxed from the state. ;)

Pocelo je!

If it is included in the package and a promotion why not build a second runway?
Also think of A380 or B777x if Serbia negotiates A380 carriers then better have something bigger for those aircraft.
For example EK might upgrade the BEG-DXB route in the future and could launch it in the near future, hopefully.

Right - some 100 mil EUR will be spent, in order to save 4,5 mil EUR in taxes.
Great reasoning. Surely, that is why they are planning to build a runway. Jesus...

Guys, you are uninteligent trolls, nothing more, nothing less.

Problem je sa gubitnicima tranzicije. Oni kukaju kako se trosi porez iako mu mnogo ne doprinose. Oni kukaju kako je Wizz gasto avio kompanija, a lete ponekad iz Temisvara. Njima je druga pista visak. Oni kukaju na solitere na Savi iako su ih crtali njihovi ocevi pre 40 godina.

Anon 14.47 airports such as MLA, LCA, ADB, RHO... are holiday airports that experience extreme seasonality. Look at LCA, a million passengers in August while not even 300.000 in November. Not to mention that these holiday airports can afford to schedule charter flights in the middle of the night. Who would fly on JU to ARN if they were to schedule the flight at 03.30? Different market dynamics.

Since you have widened the radius, so can I so as to include airports such as BTS, KEF, ORK, BGY, GRZ, LIL... where all have two runways.

Btw I might be wrong but I think MLA has two runways.

Boris da si neko važan možda bi ti i dali da pogledaš ove sve ugovore koje te zanimaju ali nigde u svetu pa ni kod nas obični ljudi ne treba da imaju pristup tako važnim dokumentima.

Belgrade Airport will not get a new separate Terminal and a new separate runway as they were defined in '2025 Master Plan' from 2003 and earlier master plans. If anyone from Vinci, Terna, government or banks want to counter that with facts, please do so. Everything points to inserted runway and some new/expanded terminal space adjacent to existing terminal complex, but not a fully functional, physically separate terminal on the other side of the airport as previously planned.

Use cases and justification for additional taxiways and runway, inserted or not, has been described in comments regarding Belgrade Airport articles on this site over the last month. Please refer to those explanations before attempting to challenge the need for additional runway.

Pa Srbija nije deo sveta gde građane ne zanimaju državni ugovori na moju veliku žalost, ali mi ne biramo gde ćemo se roditi. Ugovori koji se kriju u Srbiji kriju se da ne bi videli šta smo poklonil a ne da bi se štitio razvoj investicija. Vidim da to tebi savršeno odgovara iz nekog razloga ali meni ne. Ako umesto za bolnice i škole pare idu Air Serbiji (za tobožnju promociju i razvoj turizma), ili se poklanjaju Arapima da grade privatne stanove kako bi mi imali lepo šetalište a molimo boga da ne padnemo doktoru u ruke, imam puno pravo da ne verujem da su Vancijeve pare uložene u ovo. I ugovori gde se daju poreske pare su inače javni...svuda u svetu osim u trećem svetu...

We literally don't know anything, how can you make any predictions with certainty? Good thing is that they said all will be completed in 5 years so we won't have to wait for long.

Malo sutra su svuda javni, odrasti. U bogatoj Americi poreske pare ne idu za bolnice ali idu za vojsku, pa ni tamo poreske obveznike ne pitaju pojedinacno kako bi hteli da trose te pare. Imas pravo da verujes da postoje vanzemaljci i leteci tanjiri ali nadji drugo mesto za tvoje politicke teorije zavere a ne ovde na forumu za avijaciju.

@ Anonymous21 January 2019 at 14:51
well Mr. Anonymus, thank your for your kind words. Investor? Who? Vinci or Serbia? Didn't you learn from the Air Serbia case how much money "investors" actualy injected? I don't know you and I would not in my wildes dreams call you names like you did. Shame on you, you have no f...g idea who am I and what I do. I said that there is no need for second runway. Second runway at airport is not like annex to the building, or another road. It is wast and very expensive project. If they actualy pull it, I would realy like to see the contract. I'm pretty sure it would be just like in case of Air Serbia and Waterfront etc. Goverment paying for infrastructure - go and see what arrangement they made in Zagreb or ask Purger - and your current govt is more or less paining nice picture of its ruling at expense of its taxpayers, hence "ima se, može se". In order to look good, they will use public money and regardless of the cost, they will build something, just to look better. Vinci constructing another runway just to boost the traffic? What drugs are you on my friend? Capitalism is about maximising profit at lowes possible cost. Where building an infrastructure at cost at arround 2-4 bn € for company which is RENTING the airport comes into that picture? Quote from UK article in Daily Telegraph "Gatwick, which had said it could build a second runway for £7.4bn, has under-estimated the cost of its plans by around £2bn the commission said. The Commission believes the true cost it closer to £9.3bn." See also here http://www.gacc.org.uk/resources/Paying%20for%20a%20new%20Gatwick%20runway.pdf

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this speak volume of their compentency. AirCEO is totaly right, I'm afraid my dear friends from Serbia. There is plethora of studies about runways. One is here if you are interested. http://www.gacc.org.uk/resources/Paying%20for%20a%20new%20Gatwick%20runway.pdf

hey Rodney, jeste, Morava, pa još koji aerodrom tipa Maribor vam treba. To je napredak. Samo da se gradi, pa šta košta. Fali Srbiji još aerodroma, recimo u Aranđelovcu, pa Kragujevcu, e pa kad ima Kragujevac, mora i Jagodina, bar dve staze, zašto bi samo Begiš imao? Nišu je krenulo, treba rano misliti na razvoj i drugoj, možda čak trečoj stazi. Da se nađe...

Guys, the resource for the existing runway is already obsolete. That is the reason why they are building inserted runway. It is just there for use while the real one is being refurbished. It will be built between the current runway and the twy A.

2nd runaway will allow greater number or landings and take offs in rush hours or during waves. This is needed to be developed as a hub airport.

GRZ? Seriously? You consider a few hundred metres of a grass strip a runway for commercial traffic? LMFAO

Bravo, Mr. Respectible, if capitalism Is to be blamed for something, it's for... the development of air travel... and making it non-affordable to common, working class people... Right so. And, by what strange logic could the fact that VINCI Is actually investing loads of money be a e proof for anything you wrote above?

Hey, wise guy, explain how exactly the fact that they actually want to build a new runway harms our interests? If you manage to explain that, not only that I'll show respect for You, but I'm sure the Nobel Comitee will, too.