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Abu Dhabi - Belgrade route on Wizz Air’s radar

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Wizz Air’s CEO, Jozsef Varadi, has told EX-YU Aviation News the carrier is considering launching services between Abu Dhabi and Belgrade once it opens its base in the Emirati capital towards the end of the year. “Belgrade is certainly on the radar from Abu Dhabi. I can’t confirm when it will be launched, but we are flying from Budapest to Abu Dhabi for example, as well as from Romania and Bulgaria. So, with that, Serbia would be a natural market with a lot of perspective”, Mr Varadi noted. He shrugged off concerns over direct competition with Etihad Airways on the route. “We are not afraid of competition. As a matter of fact, by creating more competition it is certainly good for consumers because they have more choice”. Wizz Air Abu Dhabi will launch with six aircraft, which is double the amount originally planned. The launch date of the new budget airline is going ahead as scheduled for later this year. “We are looking at a larger scale start versus what we originally contemplated. We would be looking at a six aircraft start in the first six months”, Mr Varadi said.

The budget airline, which will station its third aircraft in the Serbian capital next month and launch ten new routes, is mostly satisfied both with current market conditions and its performance, which may result in further expansion. “Belgrade has done well for us and we try to do better for Belgrade as a result and bring new routes and more capacity to the market. Belgrade has been operational for us through the crisis and consumer uptake has been very strong. Even in very difficult circumstances, consumers have been very loyal to Wizz Air and they appreciate our service and decided to fly with us in these difficult times”, Mr Varadi said.

The CEO noted that state protectionism and support for flag carriers is visible across the continent. “The situation in Serbia is not much different than other countries. If you look at Air France or Lufthansa, those airlines are also subject to state subsidies. I think the world is changing. Clearly, we see governments getting more involved in financing airlines, providing capital and providing liquidity. It’s almost as if we are stepping backwards ten or fifteen years. I think the industry was celebrating that we got rid of the governments, in terms of airline equities in many places. Now they are back in the game. This isn’t great for the industry. This is not promoting efficiency. It is preserving inefficient and loss making businesses. I think a good example of that is here in the country [Serbia] as well”.

Commenting on the current situation on the Serbian market, which has a dominant flag carrier in terms of passenger share, Wizz Air’s CEO noted, “Serbia does accommodate low cost airlines. Maybe it is not as clean as some of the other countries. This is the problem when states get involved with airline equity in their home carriers, they become kind of double-minded, because on one hand it is in the interest of the country to have competition on the market and to offer choices to consumers. But, when you are also an equity holder in your national carrier, you are increasingly combating the market. You want to limit competition and you want to cater for the issues of your national carrier. You are seeing that kind of double mindset in Serbia”. Mr Varadi added, “Having said all that, we are in Serbia, we are bringing a third aircraft to Belgrade, we are going to have 15% - 20% market share in Serbia so this is not that bad. I think if the operational and commercial terms can be preserved as they are today, we can do more in the future. I think we will have to see how rational or irrational governments will be in each of the countries, including Serbia. In certain countries, this kind of government support for their national carriers will result in them contracting capacity, to rationalise the business and become a smaller airline, which may create more room for us to grow. But we will have to see, we are at a very early stage of the process. Certainly, we are keeping an open eye in each country. Putting that aside, we are very excited about Serbia. Serbia has done very well for Wizz Air and we are a very simple business. If we can make more money, we will do more, if we can not make money, we will do less. It’s as simple as that”.

June 23, 2020
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  1. Anonymous09:05

    2 weekly AUH-BEG could work.

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    1. Nemjee09:07

      Even 3 weekly could work.

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  2. Anonymous09:05

    Will Wizz offer the possibility of connecting flights?

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    1. Anonymous09:09

      Don't think so. They will operate under the same strategy as in Europe.

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    2. Anonymous09:55

      Only if the airport - or somebody else - is the owner of the insurance. There's a pilot program between Gatwick and easyJet - google 'GatwickConnects' to find out more.

      I'm sure they can figure out the risk profile by themselves and pull together an appropriate product, but I don't think it's something they want to actively pursue, for a number of reasons, one of them being de-focusing from their core business. In other words, it might be profitable, but it might contain other not-so-obvious costs down the road.

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    3. Anonymous13:13

      There will be connecting flights. That's the point of AUH base

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  3. Anonymous09:06

    I''m really surprised by Wizz Air with this decision to open base in Abu Dhabi. Hope it works out.

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  4. Anonymous09:09

    To be expected .... launching Wizz Abu Dhabi, you would have to think that BEG would be a prime candidate.

    They are encroaching ever more on JU - which is not a bad thing. As the CEO says, competition is good - especially for the consumer. But at some point, the GoS is going to have to make a decision on whether it puts the good of the country before the good of the airline. And by this, I mean, do they prioritise tourism and growing this segment and the obvious economic benefits that flow from more people arriving and the revenue streams they get from Vincci with more arrivals, or, do they continue to provide aid and support to JU ?

    Not an easy choice ....

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    1. Nemjee09:12

      The routes they launched to AUH until now have been from bases outside the UAE. They didn't have the spare capacity in BEG to do the same.

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    2. Anonymous21:13

      @Nemjee, you've shown numerous times that you're not really acquainted with freedoms of the air. Wizz Air cannot fly from Belgrade to Abu Dhabi with a BEG based aircraft and hence a newly established company in the UAE.

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  5. Anonymous09:09

    The last sentence is excellent.

    "If we can make more money, we will do more, if we can not make money, we will do less. It’s as simple as that”.

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  6. Nemjee09:11

    I am not surprised by this, people don't understand how big the market is between Belgrade and the UAE. Also in Q1 and Q2 of 2019 the market on BEG-AUH actually grew:

    2018: 38.830
    2019: 48.866

    In 2018 174.501 people flew between BEG and AUH/DXB. I am sure in 2019 that number got closer to 200.000. This is a market the size of BEG-VIE. There is definitely room for another player. I am sure Air Arabia was relying on this growing O&D market to make their BEG route a success. Don't forget that it's not only about transfers or locals who live there, a growing number of people are going to Dubai for a winter getaway. Wizz Air could easily operate winter seasonal flights.

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      If it wasn't for Corona these flights would be sold out in minutes. Great winter getaway.

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    2. JATBEGMEL13:38

      @ nemjee

      The UAE has a large Serbian community, estimate is around 20.000. This figure was, until recently, growing.

      This on its own attracted a good share of O&D pax on the route, not only those in the UAE going home for vaccation, but also having family and friends visit them in the UAE.

      Tourism has grown as the UAE has become cheaper to visit, while Indians were granted visa free access, along with Serbia allowing visitors with a valid schengen or US visas to enter.

      However, the virus has changed alot in the mean time. Many Serbs have lost jobs and have returned back to Serbia. There has been numerous repatriation flights, JU just operated another one a couple of days ago due to demand, while more are still waiting to be repatriated. 10% of the UAE's population is estimated to leave the UAE.

      I dont see a recovery of that market any time soon, while W6 would be the third airline to enter the market with a much larger capacity compared to the competition. The main driver for the UAE-BEG flights was the transfer pax, and that isnt something W6 offers.

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    3. Nemjee13:45

      It all depends on how fast Dubai/UAE rebound economically, at this moment no one knows how things will turn out. I think with the ongoing crisis in the UAE flights and holidays there might become more affordable so that could stimulate a bit more demand on the market. Unfortunately I think it's still too early to make any final conclusions, the next few months will be key.

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    4. JATBEGMEL14:40

      I dont think they will rebound as quickly. Dubai's economy is in big problems with amongst the highest debt to GDP (if I remember right, its around 200%), budget defecit, housing prices have taken a large fall the past couple of years (30%), while it is estimated around 70% of businesses could close within 6 months due to the pandemic. 74% of tourism companies is expected to close.

      Comparing to the 2008 crisis, a major contributor to their economy, EK, still grew after that period. Now the problem is the fleet, the overcapacity and its inability to adapt to market conditions. 40% of their A380's is rumoured to be no longer needed, 5 A380's in production were cancelled (for over 70 million USD each), while the airline is laying off several thousand staff.

      The area which once was famous for being tax free introduced a VAT a couple years back at 5%. Saudi recently trippled it (to 15%). Interesting times ahead.

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    5. Anonymous16:51

      Absolutely well said. UAE economy was growing so artificially and cannot just continue to be suistainable. The arabs were thinking the oil will be used forever but the human is now clever and will switch to electric.
      Like someone mentioned abouve, absolutely no clue why W6 decided to operate AUH and what traffic is there to all them Eastern European capitals?
      BUD-AUH RT is currently 70€ without extras, so still 120€ is damn cheap.

      As for BEG, Nemjee said there was a huge demand between Serbia and UAE but we all witnessed what happened to Air Arabia who were quite ambitious with SHJ and this route never materialised due to low performance:

      https://www.exyuaviation.com/2019/04/air-arabia-shelves-belgrade-flights.html

      There is no need to have another double route such BCN or OSL. Better focus on Morocco, Ireland, UK, Ukraine and the Caucasus.
      Batumi, Kutaisi, Baku, Yerevan....missed destinations!

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    6. Anonymous19:27

      Just because one airline failed from UAE to BEG doesn't mean demand not there. It means they did not know how to catch it.

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  7. Anonymous09:12

    There will be room for both Wizz and EY. EY will continue to carry the long haul / connecting traffic that comes from / goes to AsiaPAcific, while Wizz will probably go after and get most of the gasto (P2P) market it does in Europe

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    1. Nemjee09:17

      Would be nice if EY responds by increasing capacity on the route to a widebody. Loads are not an issue and they could at least compete with W6 in terms of comfort. Etihad suffered greatly once JU suspended their AUH flights. Those flights had really matured over time. They started off with 10-15 passengers per flight to reach 110 by the end.

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    2. Anonymous11:11

      EY is in a much much worse financial position compared with five years ago.
      They probably have bigger fish to fry than picking a fight with Indigo partners.

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    3. Nemjee13:46

      Fight with Indigo can't be avoided now that they have opened a base in AUH.

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  8. Anonymous09:13

    Given JU's quick responses to recent Wizz moves, will we see them relaunch AUH ?

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    1. Anonymous09:17

      I think it would be too expensive for them. They couldn't make it work in the past without any competition with the help from EY. Plus we don't know what will EY's future involvement be in JU and whether it would be possible for JU to carry connecting EY passengers.

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    2. JATBEGMEL13:49

      JU's response to the Wizz expansion hasnt been neither quick, nor anything impressive. 2 weekly to OSL isnt really much.

      @ 09,17

      JU's loads by the end were actually quite decent. The reasoning behind them pulling out was that they could use the ac for a morning Euro rotation ex BEG. The AUH rotation took 12 hours.

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  9. Anonymous09:20

    Will there be the same demand for P2P travel between the UAE and Serbia after this crisis? A lot of people have lost their jobs in the UAE and returned back to Serbia.

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  10. Anonymous09:23

    Good luck Wizz Air AUH

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  11. Anonymous09:24

    With a third aircraft in BEG it is looking much more realistic.

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  12. Anonymous09:25

    Yes! Low cost fares on this route would be really welcome

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    1. Anonymous09:34

      Isn't FZ cheap?

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    2. Anonymous09:37

      FZ flies to Dubai. It's around 350 EUR rt.

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    3. Anonymous09:56

      It's a five hour flight

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    4. Anonymous10:50

      They fly to Turku and Buvlji aerodrom and complain about Abu Dhabi-Dubai distance.

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    5. JATBEGMEL13:58

      @ 09,34

      Currently FZ are ripping off the pax, with fares going well over 1.000€ for a one way flight. They tend to cancel a flight, while only offering vouchers and no refunds.

      There was a campaign recently organised through the Serbian embassy in Abu Dhabi for JU to operate a repatriation flight. It operated a couple days ago and was almost full.

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  13. Anonymous09:27

    That would be quite an uncomfortable flights in a full A321 with their configuration.

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    1. M&M19:12

      You’d be surprised how many people from Serbia go to BUD to fly to DWC.
      I’m sure AUH would perform well.

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  14. Anonymous09:28

    Quite a few Eastern European markets could work from Abu Dhabi, especially seeing as Etihad has very poor coverage of Eastern European destinations.

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  15. Anonymous09:28

    It is one of the routes W6 naturally should open from BEG due to strong ties between Serbia and UAE.

    Talking about competition we should not forget that JU does not fly any longer from BEG to AUH and that this route would not be direct competition to JU but to EY. Of course based on code share agreement JU bring from Europe the passengers to EY flights to AUH but as I said, the competition is not that direct as Air Serbia does not fly with its own metal to AUH.

    Even under these circumstances I believe that JU replied quite good to the changes in its surrounding including Adria & Atlas bankrupty, virus crisis as well as W6 expansion. I can't even imagine how dangerous it would be to some of the other flag carriers in the ex-YU neighbourhood if W6 attacked their national flag carrier on the way they did it to JU in BEG.

    Mr. Varadi is complaining about the money flag carriers keep receiving from their Governments, but I would really like to know if W6 purchased huge quantity of new planes based on the profit they made or based on the fact that this money was provided by powerful Indigo Partners.

    Yes, in this case we have difference that flag carriers receive taxpayers money and Mr. Varadi gets money from private funds, but the logic is the same. With no financial support in these difficult times no airline can survive no matter how smart you try to present yourself.

    It is interesting that Mr. Varadi did not mention years and years of W6 stagnating in BEG. Pojela maca.

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    1. Anonymous09:33

      You don't seem to get the difference between public funds and funds from your private owner.

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    2. Anonymous09:33

      You don't seem to understand my point.

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    3. Anonymous09:36

      Your point makes no sense. You are trying to say that it's the same if the government is giving you money or your private owner. It's not the same.

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    4. Anonymous09:38

      "It is interesting that Mr. Varadi did not mention years and years of W6 stagnating in BEG. "

      He said it quite simply

      "If we can make more money, we will do more, if we can not make money, we will do less. It’s as simple as that”.

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    5. Anonymous09:52

      Once aain you don't seem to understand my point.

      If we are talking about the system that works you don't need money from other sources. You can finance your business from the incomes.

      It does not seem to be the case with W6. They complain about flag carriers but they also receive huge financial support from the airports, from Hungarian Government and the most important from its owner.

      With so many different sources of money apart from business income you can't say your business is self sustainable and at the same to criticize flag carriers who also receive the money from different sources.

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    6. Anonymous09:53

      @anon 09:38

      They could have made more money in BEG but they refused to do it.

      Ask Mr. Varadi for the reasons.

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    7. Anonymous09:58

      'Mr. Varadi is complaining about the money flag carriers keep receiving from their Governments, but I would really like to know if W6 purchased huge quantity of new planes based on the profit they made or based on the fact that this money was provided by powerful Indigo Partners.'

      It's actually quite easy to find this out if you wanted to. Wizz Air has been public since 2015. It's all profit and reinvestment.

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    8. Anonymous10:01

      The equivalence argument has no legs to stand on. What is an already uneven playing field has become a 60 degree slope private companies have to fight against both the market conditions and state aid while receiving no additional funding on their own. It's all public you know. Projecting own conspiracy methods to others doesn't help.

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    9. Anonymous10:11

      Of course profit.

      Made by Indigo Partners

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    10. Anonymous10:25

      It's all profit and reinvestment.

      Purger, 16.06.2020

      "Kompanije je odjednom kupila čak 430 aviona A320 obitelji, što je kataloške vrijednosti 50 milijardi USD. To je bila najveća narudžba aviona odjednom kod jednog proizvođača. Isto je i lansiralo u javnost do tada potpuno anoniman i javnosti nepoznat IndigoParners. Vrlo je malo kompanija koje mogu odjednom naručiti toliko aviona, a isto je dokaz da iza njih stoji izuzetno jake mega-investicijske institucije".

      " Stoga je jasno da je ovo produkt jasne strategije i ogromne količine novaca koje stoje iza IndigoParnersa. I da skratim, iza IndigoPartnersa stoji JP Morgan Chase, jedan od 5 najvećih financijskih institucija svijeta, težak 2,7 trilijuna USD, sa godišnjim prometom od preko 115 milijardi USD i profitom od preko 36 milijardi USD".

      Poor Mr.Varadi.



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    11. Anonymous13:14

      Government is the owner of the company a bs if government is giving own money to own company I don't see the difference in private investigator giving money to own company.

      There are differences in some other levels, but in sence of relationship between one how give money to own company no.

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    12. Anonymous16:04

      10:25

      If you had any idea about how things are done -

      Wizz Air buys the aircraft, sells and leases them back. So, practically, somebody else pays for the orders and Wizz Air pays for the leasing. So Wizz Air itself DOESN'T RECEIVE ANY MONEY AS SUPPORT.

      Clearer now? The analogy doesn't have legs.

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  16. Anonymous09:42

    Could work to BEG. SKP too.

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  17. Anonymous09:44

    It won't be easy. The market is extremely competitive with flights to AUH and DXB plus cheap connections via IST.

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    1. Anonymous10:08

      With the right price and if they market it right, I think they could be very successful.

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    2. Happy taxpayer10:42

      IST will be used less and less for connections with so much direct capacity being added between our region and the Middle East.

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    3. Nemjee13:48

      I still think they are going to be fine. TK can offer flexibility to its customers.

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    4. Happy taxpayer14:55

      TK can offer lower prices to its customers. Direct flights are far more preferable than connections.

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    5. Anonymous15:07

      Pegasus is also very aggressive on Middle Eastern&Gulf cities, not only IST but SAW is also a great hub between EX-YU and Balkans (except for BEG if only given chance by CAD, and ZAG) and middle east.

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    6. Nemjee15:11

      My point being that even with many non-stop flights being added throughout the world, airlines that mostly rely on transfers have lived to see another day. Additional non-stop flights could be an indication of a growing and expanding market.

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  18. Anonymous09:44

    Great

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  19. Anonymous09:45

    Good interview. I think a lot of new options have opened up with the basing of the third A321. I like that he says they have plans to grow even further from BEG.

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  20. Anonymous09:47

    No chance they can fill A321

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      lol sure

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  21. Anonymous10:14

    That is very bad news for EY.

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      It would put a lot of competition on them. They would probably have to respond in some way.

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    2. Petar10:58

      Is it the same or a different Emir that owns EY with the one who is partnering with W6?

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    3. Anonymous11:07

      It is the same sheikh. Although Wizz said it's not going to be Flydubai as in serving Etihad's needs. I think the idea is to get a different category of passengers compared to those flying Etihad.

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    4. Anonymous11:08

      Etihad's Flydubai is supposed to be Air Arabia Abu Dhabi. But I don't know if that's still going ahead.

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    5. Anonymous12:40

      Can the AUH market really support Etihad, Air Arabia and Wizz?
      I really doubt it.

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  22. Anonymous10:24

    Finally they woke up.

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  23. Anonymous10:25

    Waiting for Belgrade-Vienna with W6 please!

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      Doubt it will happen any time soon.

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    2. Anonymous10:48

      You have it from Nis.

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    3. Anonymous11:39

      Would be fantastic if they added Vienna - Belgrade or Bratislava - Belgrade.

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    4. Anonymous11:46

      I agree. It should be their priority from BEG. Wizz should try Vienna from BEG and attack the Austrian/Air Serbia monopoly and the woeful equipment both of them send on these flights most of the time.

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    5. Anonymous12:01

      Last time an airline tried that (Niki) they failed big time. Back then Austrian/Jat jointly slashed prices on the route and squeezed them out. But you are right. They do work together as monopolists on this route.

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    6. JATBEGMEL16:34

      @ 12,01

      I think it could work this time. Niki wasnt a strong airline, hence why it didnt last long. OS had a strong hold in VIE, while that has changed. I think W6 could also pull some of that demand that goes by bus/train/combi.

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  24. Anonymous10:26

    Abu Dhabi would be a nice add

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  25. Anonymous10:27

    Great to see Wizz expanding from Belgrade again and possibly more to come

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  26. Anonymous10:28

    Wizz from Belgrade should try Palermo, Catania and Malaga a few times per week. I think it would be more successful than Abu Dhabi.

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      I think there's other more priority routes needed.

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  27. Anonymous10:49

    Well I think Belgrade - Abu Dhabi on Wizz would be more successful than the upcoming Belgrade - Turku flights.

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      For sure

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  28. Anonymous11:44

    Anyone know their busiest route from Belgrade?

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      Malmo, followed by London and Dortmund.

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  29. Anonymous11:44

    Good luck Wizz. Hope they add even more destinations in the future.

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  30. Anonymous11:45

    Would Abu Dhabi be a gasto or leisure route? :D

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  31. France-Serbia12:07

    W6 to AUH or how to kill EY...

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      Not really.

      EY offers many connections from AUH that W6 can't offer. At the same time EY can send wide body plane with much better service to BEG that W6 can't.

      And finally we still do not know what would be the price of W6 ticket. At the beginning they might be cheaper in order to attract passengers, but if they keep their price policy they have on routes BEG-LTN or BEG-BVA for sardine A321 configuration I am sure many people would choose EY.

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    2. Anonymous12:46

      Etihad's economy class service to Belgrade is not much different now days than Wizz. Poor legroom, no PTVs, basic free food with the rest available for pay

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    3. JATBEGMEL14:04

      @ 12,46

      EY's catering on the AUH-BEG flights is adequate for the route, while on the 'retro' configured A320's (no IFE's) the IFE is streamed to a smart device via an app, the same as in JU.

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    4. Anonymous14:06

      JU streaming app is completely dead. Other than the weather and flight info nothing on it works anymore.

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    5. JATBEGMEL16:45

      JU's elevate play app at its best always left alot to be desired, it wasnt user friendly and really basic. The information on it was often outdated, while their destinations page didnt have their full list while including some of their destinations via their EY codeshare. No moving map was available.

      JU's other problem is that they dont have individual seat power ports to charge devices on the A319/A320, so using their elevate play app drained the battery, especially annoying on destinations like AUH.

      The EY E-Box app however isnt bad.

      JU has hinted on instagram recently a new app is soon to launch. However, I doubt it has anything to do with IFE.

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  32. Anonymous13:06

    Nice to get since insight on Wizz Air's assessment of the Serbian market. Good read.

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  33. Anonymous14:12

    ZAG-AUH: 0 routes
    SJJ-AUH: 0 routes
    SKP-AUH: 0 routes
    LJU-AUH: 0 routes (also LJU-ME3: 0)
    BEG-AUH: 1 route (also BEG-ME3: 3 - DXB, DOH, AUH)

    Varady : If we can make more money, we will do more, if we can not make money, we will do less

    Not true at all. Nothing do to with making money, everything to do with kicking out the competition.

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      Have you maybe thought that it is the only market that can support the demand? And btw maybe they start other ex-yu routes as well. Obviously he was asked about BEG.

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    2. Anonymous14:30

      Have you maybe thought that it is the only market that can support the demand?

      I have, I double checked, and it's not the only market, far from it. Nothing to do with demand.

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  34. Bel Cielo 14:14

    With this seat configuration you will need a full body massage after the arrival!

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      True

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  35. Anonymous14:29

    "I think the industry was celebrating that we got rid of the governments...We are not afraid of competition. As a matter of fact, by creating more competition it is certainly good for consumers because they have more choice"

    Not in Tuzla and not in SKP. Government supported (near) monopoly, exclusive contracts with no aiport fees or repeated, custom made tenders are bad for consumers but good for monopolists.

    "You are seeing that kind of double mindset in Serbia"

    We are seeing that kind of double mindset with Wizzair.

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      +100

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  36. Anonymous17:48

    The most important question should be if Etihad comes back to Belgrade and if so when it would be with what frequency and capacity !?

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  37. Anonymous17:58

    They probably will not come back and Wizz Air already knows it ...

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      What's the point of responsing to your own question? Yes, they are coming back from the 18th of July. Sorry for you.

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  38. Anonymous20:16

    For those complaining about flying a sardine A321 to AUH... if W6 has a 50€ one-way fare with the luggage included, believe me you will not even hesitate to book. People do the same flying from London to the Canary Islands with FRIENDS, which is a long, long flight.
    TK also uses 739 to Africa and no one complains.
    In SE Asia, the Air Asia A320s are everywhere and have journeys up to 5 hours as well.
    So, no drama here.

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      Believe me I will not book not for 1 eur ticket. Some things are not worth the pain.

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