NEWS FLASH
Air Serbia and Belavia have concluded a Special Prorate Agreement (SPA), which enables the Serbian carrier to sell tickets to the Belarusian capital of Minsk from any point within its network via Belgrade in partnership with the airline. The Belorussian carrier is also able to sell tickets for destinations within Air Serbia’s network via Belgrade. This winter season, Belavia will maintain four weekly flights between Minsk and Belgrade, up from three last year. Air Serbia currently boasts 34 SPAs and fourteen codeshare agreements.
Great to see B2 do so well in BEG. I guess this SPA will help them become even more successful.
ReplyDeleteGood job to JU, B2 and BEG! This is another slap in the face to VIE and OS which has been milking MSQ for decades.
SPA is more than a regular interline agreement and less than a codeshare agreement. Until now the same ticket could have been sold under the interline agreement, which is sufficient for this purpose.
DeleteI see no way how it can be a slap in somebodies face...
Because it opens a new channel for passengers and a viable alternative to Vienna.
DeleteReminds me of how JU pushed OS out of KRR.
DeleteAnon 10:47
DeleteWhat a comment!!! OS has codeshare with B2, so much about slaping them in face.
"a viable alternative to Vienna"
DeleteDo you know how much airlines are flying to MSQ? And then somehow JU, which is not even flying to MSQ and has not even a codeshare, became "viable alternative".... VIE is not the only airport in Europe where people from MSQ can transfer. You have LO, LH, SU, OY, BT, TK which are fliying to their home airports.
LOL the anti-OS guy is back! :D
DeleteB2 is already very well connected to CIS and continental Europe. And heellloo what about LO, BT, TK? This JU-B2 agreement is intended mainly to connect the Balkana cities and Croatian coast.
Anon 10:59
DeleteJU did not pushed OS out of Krasnodar. Turkish was their major problem which introduced daily flights in 2018. Then OS stareted to cut frequencies. When JU launched flights to KRR, OS was literally destroyed by TK and only one weakly flight left to VIE. JU and Air Moldova had not such impact on them as TK, which forced them to operate only one weakly flight and ending operations.
Love the hysteria on here the moment someone says something positive about JU or BEG. Bromazepam for all of you.
DeleteYes but JU was the final nail in their coffin because they were making it work with that one weekly flight until JU showed up. Also I think Pegasus is more of a problem there than TK as on a year-round basis they operate more flights.
DeleteLOL, Balkana guy is back! It's Balkan or the Balkans. There's no Balkana.
DeleteAnon 13:26 ''Something positive'' or delusion?
DeleteAnon 13:27
DeleteOS was not making anything with 1 weakly flight. Before JU began operations there they were on 1 weakly which is useless for transfers. JU had impact on them, same as Air Moldova with increased flights, because some people chose these 2 airlines, but it is far from truth that JU pushed them out of KRR.
Anon 13:26
Not gonna lie, but you seems to me as the most hysterical here because someone presented facts which are not proving your delusion.
So OS leaving KRR just after JU launched it is somehow now JU's triumph over OS. Some people on here just can't stand JU doing well no matter what. OS on the other hand just suspended seven, yes SEVEN, destinations in November.
Delete+14:32 +10000!!
DeleteIt's always about delusions and fairytales. As if KRR belongs to JU and people keep forgetting Pegsasus and Azimuth. OS pulled out of KRR because it no longer supports the go-east strategy or at least got rid of the loss-making routes. Still its Eastern European coverage remains impressive.
Ah of course, Azimuth that barely operates any international flights affected OS but not JU which is after the exactly the same market. Interesting... or not, kind of boring by now. JU was even about to add an extra frequency this summer and last winter they operated three flights a week on A319 while TK was five on the A319 and Pegasus daily on the B738.
DeleteBut yeah, JU is so unimportant there.
Azimuth. lol
Is it that hard to realise that OS had already lost in KRR? JU's arrival had an impact of course but it was minimal. I have nothing against JU but some of these comments here are ridiculous. Pushing out and triumphing over OS with 1 weekly flight, come on
DeleteWell, someone had to push them over the edge, that was JU which added 864 weekly seats to the market compared to 240 offered by OS at that time. There was simply no room for OS at that point so they packed up and left, there was nothing they could really do.
DeleteAnon 18:30
DeleteI think you are right about Azimuth and that anon before you was wrong. Only EU route they opearte is to Munich where they fly 2 times a weak. But, nobody was saying how JU is unimportant in Krasnodar's transfer market but how it didnt pushed OS from it as many people were saying. TK was their major problem and not smaller transfer airlines like Belavia, Air Moldova and Air Serbia. They lost it from TK, not from these smaller airlines.
So you are saying that TK beat them despite Pegasus having more flights and seats on a year-round basis?
DeleteTK is a legacy same as OS. Pegasus offers far less conections then OS and TK.
DeleteWith the crippling Turkish lira, no wonder how the prices have gone really down with Pegasus. You get a RT from KRR to Europe for around 250€.
DeleteWhat prevents them from signing a codeshare?
DeleteSo what if TK and OS are legacies? People book flights regardless of what kind of airline is, they go for the price, schedule and whether they were satisfied with their previous experience. That's where OS was killed by the Turks and then buried by JU. Very simple.
DeleteBut JU isnt the only small company operating transfers in Krasnodar. Belavia and Air Moldova were also here with highest capacity then JU.
DeleteAir Moldova can't be compared with JU. Much, much smaller.
DeleteAir Moldova is indeed tiny with a really modest European network that's not organised in banks so connections are not easy.
DeleteLove this!
ReplyDeleteBelgrade will come out of this so much stronger.
ReplyDeleteFreedom of movement should be introduced. Belarussians are masters in IT and Serbia can benefit strongly. Inhand Serbia can export traditional food and beverages.
ReplyDeleteHere is a graph showing how important the trade agreement is!
https://eng.belta.by/infographica/view/belarus-serbia-trade-and-economic-cooperation-5312/
Which is no.1 carrier in the region in terms of codeshare?
ReplyDeleteOU with 16, next is JU with 14, YM with 3 and TD with 1.
DeleteWhat is the number 1 carrier in the region in terms of SPA's?
DeleteI think OU also but it is not so important for network and ticket sales as code share and interline.
DeleteIt is Air Serbia with 34. OU is limited by being a member of Star Alliance, ie Lufthansa group feeder.
DeleteOU doesn't need too many SPAs, because as a star alliance member it has by default SPAs with all other star alliance partners. This is part of the alliance membership.
DeleteOU would therefore sign an SPA with another star alliance member only if they wanted to somehow deviate from standard rules of the star alliance on splitting the remuneration.
So in this sense OU has by far the biggest number SPAs in the region.
OU has very limited freedom to venture outside of Star Alliance. As Lufthansa group dominates Star Alliance in CEE, Croatia Airlines is effectively just a feeder to LH group hubs. Customer have little variety and choice, they are tunneled to pick a destination and price StarAlliance ie LH group offers them. From customer perspective they have almost no choice.
DeleteThat doesnt mean it has no SPA with these airlines. Airlines in Star Alliance which do not have codeshare with OU are Copa Airlines, Avianca, Air New Zealand, Shezhen Airlines, South African Airlines, Ethiopian, Egyptair, All Nippon Airways, Thai, Eva Air and Air China. So with half of them has with half not. In the next years we will probably see more airlines codesharing on OUs flights. Among these All Nippon Airways and Air China are must have.
DeleteHonestly, Star Alliance membership really makes an airline very prestigious. The alliance itself has a bunch of high-class and quality airlines. JU should consider joining Star-Alliance and become a feeder in ZRH, FRA and VIE.
DeleteI see you are trolling. JU doesn't have to feed LH Group airlines in order to do well in their hubs. After all these days they operated 21 weekly flights into ZRH. Maybe LX should cooperate with JU in BEG to survive there easier and to do better in ex-YU with connections.
DeleteYes, LX needs JU to survive :D the best comment of the day! Gotta luv your mentality, man.
DeleteThey might not need them overall but they most certainly do need them to survive in ex-YU. After all, LX has failed in almost all ex-YU markets outside of BEG. You can laugh all you want but the fact you are purposely misinterpreting my comment shows you have no arguments against it.
DeleteI am a different anon and I have a question.
DeleteBy failed in almost all ex-Yu, do you mean that they pulled back, because they were unable to operate at a profit margin that would be satisfactory for their management/shareholders and therefore decided to employ their very expensive assets, ie planes, at markets, where they hope to get an expected return?
Or do you think that an airline that does not operate at all possible markets and in particular does not operate in all ex-Yu markets, is by definition a failure? Is it some type of a heaven?
This is a news article about JU adding a new SPA in today's climate. It is a positive news by any measure. Many posts that have no connection to today's topic.
DeleteOnce *A member airlines are in the news, we can then discuss those members of what they like to think of themselves as a "prestige" alliance.
It failed because they failed to make these markets work. Simple as that. Many other legacy carriers have found their place without a problem but LX hasn't. So if they want to make ex-YU work maybe it's time to start working with JU, not against them. JU is not useless and can prove a useful ally to LX.
DeleteLX failed everywhere in ex yu except in BEG? Are you for real or you really dont know any airports airlines outside BEG?
DeleteNobody is denying JU success, much has been made during the last years and bridges have been built with more and more share-codes:
Deletehttps://www.exyuaviation.com/p/bulgarias-national-carer-bulgaria-air.html
https://www.exyuaviation.com/2020/08/air-serbia-and-turkish-airlines-ink.html
https://www.exyuaviation.com/2020/09/egypt-air-to-add-belgrade-codeshare.html
https://www.exyuaviation.com/2019/06/air-serbia-bulgaria-air-expand-codeshare.html
https://www.exyuaviation.com/2019/05/air-serbia-air-europa-expand-codeshare.html
However, lets awoid comments like LX is dependant on JU or it is the end of OS. Those are world-class 4-star airlines, long-term Star Alliance members with their proper hubs and an extensive network reaching from Brazil to Singapore. Corona has hit many airlines and they are many of them.
There is also no denial that Star Alliance remains one of the most prestigious - Singapore Airlines, Thai, TAP, Asiana, Aegean just to mention a few.
*any airports
DeleteLX in 2019. was flying to LJU, SPU, DBV, PUY, SKP, OHD, PRN, TIV.
DeleteExactly, LX has almost completely collapsed in ex-YU and they failed in every airport outside of BEG. As for LX and OS, sure, Swiss is a fine carrier but OS isn't. Their widebody fleet is close to 30 years old and they have been loss-making for ages now. This will continue with the LCC war going on in VIE. They are collapsing left and right and they can't make anything work right now. There is a reason why OS only publishes EBIT profit, that is what they made BEFORE taxes and interest. If they published that number after paying that, well ...
DeleteAs for alliances, well, DL disagrees with you as their CEO believes alliances are dead.
Please inform yourself before you write something.
DeleteYou too my friend, you too. I guess you are out of arguments so it's easier like that.
DeleteGood news. It could be only benefitial for both companies
ReplyDeleteWhat is the difference between SPA, code share and interline?
ReplyDeleteSPA is actually an invisible part of interline agreament where airlines are making a deal about taxing on interline route. It helps only to airline finances and not to expanding network or increasing seat sales.
DeleteIn short: interline means close to nothing and almost every bigger airline has interlines with all other bigger airlines. It just means as an airline you can issue a ticket for a flight marketed and operated by a different airline and pay them standard fare for that ticket, as if it were sold by a travel agent. You use it mostly not to sell tickets on flights by other airlines, but if you cancelled a flight/have overbooking and want to rebook your pax on some other airline to solve the problem.
DeleteSPA means the same + you agree on discounts, so that if you sell combined tickets the final fare is more digestible for the pax, almost as if he made all legs of the flight with one airline. Still each leg is operated and marketed by a different airline.
Thanks a lot!
DeleteCode-share means SPA + the flight is operated by your code-share partner, but marketed by you as your own flight.
DeleteIt does help with expanding network and seat sales. Air Serbia can now offer for example TGD-BEG-MSQ with convenient single baggage check-in at TGD and pickup at MSQ. This is not something Wizz can offer on it's own routes, with them passenger has to buy two separate tickets, pick the bags and check it in separately for the second leg. Huge difference.
DeleteIt helps only a bit, unless they put those tickets up for sale on their website and without code share they will not.
DeleteFor many reasons Wizz is absolutely not interested in doing this. In particular it would be very difficult for them to agree on a split of remuneration with a legacy. It is totally unfit for their business concept of selling tickets for DIRECT flights.
anon 15.30, 15.34.
For those in the know, JU sells minority of their tickets through their website even though that share actually increased since pandemic started. Tourist agencies do sell those tickets even without code share and that is Air Serbia advantage.
DeleteJU yes, but Belavia?
DeleteSo many unhappy people on here. We should be happy an ex-YU airport is trying to make it big, to get out of the third rate provincial league in which all of our airports are playing in right now. In stead of being intolerant towards BEG, ask yourselves what your home airport can do to thrive. BEG has big plans, just look at the terminal expansion that was posted on here. Belgrade's time is only coming now.
ReplyDeleteAnyone is unhappy here?
DeleteMany
DeleteProve.
DeleteJust read some of the comments, from Azimuth to Air Moldova. Even though it's been 7 years some people still can't digest Air Serbia.
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