The world's second largest carrier, United Airlines, will launch seasonal summer flights between New York's Newark Liberty Airport and Dubrovnik from July 8 until October 2, linking the two cities with a nonstop service for the first time in thirty years. Flights will run three times per week, each Monday, Thursday and Saturday departing Newark, with the Boeing 767-300ER aircraft. United will become the second US carrier to commence operations to Dubrovnik in recent years following American Airlines, although the latter has terminated its seasonal Philadelphia service due to the coronavirus Covid-19 pandemic. United's flights will be timed to connect in Newark to over 65 cities in North America.
Commenting on the development, United’s Vice President of International Network and Alliances, Patrick Quayle, said, “As countries around the world begin the process of reopening, leisure travellers are eager to take a long-awaited getaway to new international destinations. "The new route unlocks the natural beauty of the outdoors for our guests. It’s also the latest example of how United is remaining nimble in rebuilding our network”. With a fleet of over 700 aircraft and a destination network spanning over 300 cities, United is the second largest carrier in North America after its rival American Airlines. It is also one of the founding members of Star Alliance and boasts a wide-ranging codeshare agreement with Croatia Airlines since 2013. United has its codes and flight numbers on the Croatian carrier's services from Amsterdam, Brussels, Paris, Frankfurt, London, Munich and Zurich to Zagreb, as well as from Frankfurt and Munich to Split and Dubrovnik.
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| United Airlines business class cabin |
Services to Dubrovnik will run with the 214-seat Boeing 767-300ER aircraft, featuring thirty seats in business class, 49 in premium "economy plus" and 135 in economy class. The airline's business class features seats which recline into a fully flat bed, while meals and drinks are complimentary in economy class, unlike on its domestic services. United's entire international fleet is fitted with wireless Internet connectivity. United faces no direct competition on the route. US nationals are permitted entry into Croatia with a negative PCR test or a Covid-19 vaccination certificate. Flights between Dubrovnik and New York were previously maintained thirty years ago by JAT Yugoslav Airlines and Pan Am.
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| United Airlines economy class cabin |
Further flight details for the new Newark - Dubrovnik service can be found here.
Wow nice
ReplyDeleteBravo Hrvatska!
ReplyDeleteAwesome! Though they are the worst of the major US airlines.
ReplyDeleteBravo Croatia Airlines!!!! I hope your sleep remains in REM phase. Until RIP phase, which is to follow. Soon!
ReplyDeleteSo true. I was thinking how with A321XLR they could easily operate 5 weekly to EWR but no, why when it's easier like this. They didn't even bother to get them to fly to ZAG where they can offer extensive connections to the domestic network.
DeleteGive it a rest Rijeke, where can a company like OU get money to start longhaul flight?
DeleteAnon 15:02
DeletePlease dont have an argument with him. I tried couple of times but every conversation with him ends with accusing you for being uhljeb in OU beacuse you dont think his mumbo jumbo plans with daily flights to Bangkok, long haul with A350 or LCC division are going to work.
This is actually great news for OU. They can now start codesharing on flights from an entry point in Croatia itself. OU flights to/from DBV are going to be fuller now.
DeleteYeah because OU is just so perfectly run that no one should say anything against them, right? ;)
DeleteThen again we have to wonder what ZAG is doing. TP delayed flights once again, TU suspended them completely and now even AF is cutting the second daily for the summer. They will have a brutal summer but DBV is smart because they from the start didn't rely on crappy OU but looked for business in other places.
Nice, so we can fly ZAG-DBV-EWR :)
DeleteProblem with some people here is they absolutely don't want to hear what others are saying. I firmly believe OU will go bust soon. It could have been avoided if the company, two decades, or the latest decade ago, started with serious growth, regionally and globally. By doing so, today they should have been much bigger and financially more stable. It did not happen because nobody cared, because company was led and stuffed by uhljebs. The same who justify today's situation and cannot stand the criticism that they ruined company instead to develop it by doing nothing and spending taxpayers money.
DeleteOU should have grown with tourism demand but in stead they failed to follow the trend and they let others in. They could have a seasonal base in DBV and operate two A330 to long-haul destinations. They could fly to New York and maybe another place to bring these people but no, it's easier to have 50 flights a day to LH Group airports. Now people think OU can fight FR?! ok
Delete@pozdrav
DeleteYou are the one who absolutely doesn't want to hear what others are saying. There have never been conditions under which OU would be able to sustain based wide-body aircraft. They have to be used as much as possible, maybe flying to two destinations per day for each aircraft. Croatia just cannot support so many long-haul destinations at such frequencies.
I know you are going to say that if airlines from outside Croatia can fly to Croatia, OU can do it too. And that's not the case. Those airlines are based at airports where the market is big enough to sustain much more destinations. So they can fly to Croatia at lower frequencies, because they can send their aircraft somewhere else in the meantime and still achieve maximum use of the aircraft.
Even if OU goes bust, it has nothing to do with long-haul opportunities, because they never existed. But OU won't go bust. In the first place because the government will keep supporting it. In the second place because Ryanair is going to generate a demand that will eventually overflow to other airlines such as OU. In the third place becasue OU can still profit from codeshare agreements. In the fourth place because OU flies to central airports instead of remote ones. OU may be in a precarious state right now, but their future is bright, especially now that Ryanair arrived.
I am very carefully listening what others are saying. The last time you were saying the same as today, I asked you for numbers which prove you are right. You said you had no numbers. So you say no, no numbers, I say yes, no numbers. So, neither you nor me, cannot claim being 100%right, because we both don't present numbers. Only, there is just one small difference between us - I base my saying on 25 years of experience, you base your saying on something someone told you/thaught you , in order to make you believe smaller and "underdeveloped" countries cannot sustain long-haul, which "knolewdge" is actually way of self-limitation of those countries, better formulated people from those countries, in order not to enter into, and profit from, the most lucrative part of civil aviation, long-haul. Such people "lead" OU, so pardon me I place you in "uhljeb" category, in which you fit completely, even if not formally the one.
DeleteJa sam vam prezentirao nekoliko puta što se dogodilo na tržištima sličnim Hrvatskoj kada je domaća long haul kompanija otvorila transatlantske letove. Malev ih je prestao operirati oko 2007., Tarom 2003., Czech Airlines 2008., Balkan Bulgarian u devedesetima. Kompanija s malim resursima i velikom konkurencijom ne može preživjeti zbog većih predatora poput Lufthansa Grupe, Turkisha, Britisha, KLMa, Air Francea itd. Ako je long haul tako odlična stvar za kompaniju, zašto su Aegean Airlines i Air Baltic tako nezainteresirani za isti? Ili zašto je JU nekoliko godina gubio novce na JFK liniji?
DeleteVaše objašnjenje na ovo je bilo "u Croatiji je puno uhljeba" i "Hrvatska ekonomija je pokradena privatizacijom, a Mađarska nije".
Sve spomenute zemlje i njihove kompanije skoro da uopce nemaju dijasporu na koju mogu racunati, skoro uopce ili uopce nemaju turizam slican Hrvatskom, nemaju "cijeli Balkan iza sebe", prema tome polazite od pretpostavke slicnih trzista koja to po mom misljenju uopce nisu. Ako uz Alitaliu koja ima milijarde drzavne pomoci i operira ogroman broj long-haul letova u Italiji moze postojati kompanija Blue Panorama koja takodjer radi long-haul, onda je potpuno neupitno da je to mogla i Croatia. Ako relativno mali i relativno siromasni Portugal ima TAP, Hifly i Euroatlantic, koji svi rade long-haul, mogla je to i Croatia. Takodjer mi je drago da gubitke JU na JFK-u pisete u proslom vremenu; time potvrdjujete moje navode da je OU nakon samo nekoliko godina , a ja sam govorio o desetljecu ili dva, takodjer mogao doci do profitabilnog long-haula, posebice s obzirom na milijarde koje su u njega "ulupane" i koje su se umjesto u razvoj koristile za sponzorstva sportskih i inih takmicenja, financiranja duplog leasinga za racun Misetica, placanje nepostojecih radnih mjesta ljudi koji uopce ne dolaze na posao, i "skupljanje mrvica" iz LH grupe, sto je takodjer placeno. Ali kakvo drugo razmisljanje i zakljucke ocekivati u okolini kojoj je mozak toliko ispran da vjeruje u price o jednom tipu jogurta na trzistu na kojem ih je bilo pedesetak. Isto tako kako je u ex-yu bio jedan tip jogurta, i dirigirano od istih ljudi, dolaze i price o tome da Hrvatska ne moze imati long-haul. Srdacan pozdrav!
DeleteSkoro da nemaju dijasporu? Informirajte se o tome prije nego što nešto ovakvo napišete.
DeleteUopće nemaju turizam? A što su Budimpešta, Prag i Transilvanija? Ljude samo zanima Hrvatska i to je to?
Govorite kako se Hrvatska ne može uspoređivati sa mađarskim, rumunjskim, bugarskim i češkim tržištem, a sljedeća rečenica vam je usporedba sa Portugalom gdje samo jedan Porto ima putnika kao Hrvatska, Italijom gdje Sicilija ima više putnika od Hrvatske, a o ostatku države da ne govorim. Kojeg vam to uopće ima smisla? Pa jeli hrvatsko tržište od 11. mil po potencijalu i putnicima sličnije mađarskom sa 16. mil. putnika ili talijanskom sa preko 80. mil?
Nisam govorio o ukupnom talijanskom trzistu nego o jednoj kompaniji, Blue Panorama, koja je po velicini slicna OU i radi long-haul, sto vi tvrdite da je nemoguce. Porto i Sicilija imaju vise putnika od Hrvatske jer imaju ljude u zrakoplovstvu i turizmu koji rade na razvoju a ne na uhljebljivanju, izmedju ostalog i kompanije koje rade long-haul. I za kraj, procitajte brojeve iz danasnje teme, i recite da li stvarno mislite da trziste 300.000 putnika za USA i skoro 200.000 za Kanadu, koji brojevi su mogli sa linijom, ili linijama OU biti i puno veci zahvaljujuci transferima iz Grcke, Madjarske, ex-yu, te nasim putnicima koji izravno lete za sj. Ameriku iz Venecije i Beca, nije dovoljno za takav promet. Ja sam siguran da je dovoljno. I nadam se da ste pojeli jogurt za dorucak, sada ih barem ima vise vrsta.
DeleteIstina, niste govorili o sveukupnom talijanskom tržištu ali ste zato govorili o Blue Panorami Airlines koja djeluje na istom. Blue Panorama Airlines se ne bavi transferima ili long haul za SAD ili Kanadu, ona je leisure prijevoznik koja cilja na destinacije za odmor. I tržište na kojem djeluju ima više od 100. mil. putnika i više od 60. mil. stanovnika što je izrazito visok potencijal za leisure linije namijenjene lokalcima. Znači Blue Panorama i Croatia se ne mogu pa po skoro ničemu usporediti.
DeleteA taj broj putnika nije možda nekako povezan s turističkim potencijalom tržišta? I zar talijanska aviokompanija nije "propalija" i korumpiranija od one hrvatske? A ne čini mi se baš da se na aerodromu Palermu (fun fact: grad veličine Zagreba) i Cataniji (grad s aglomeracijskim brojem stanovnika višim od SDŽ, čak ima i metro koliko je velik) radi nešto daleko bolji posao. Ne stoji vam baš vaša teza.
Ti brojevi nam govore da ima long haul potencijala iz Hrvatske, no sezonalnost je još uvijek važan faktor. Croatia Airlines ako uzme npr. 2 aviona trebat će ih operirati cijele godine, a svi znamo da tijekom zime nitko nije zainteresiran letiti long haul iz Hrvatske zbog malog potencijala. Pa i Korean i Emirates su ukinuli cjelogodišnje linije za Zagreb i prije pandemije. Toliko o potencijalu long haula za lokalnu kompaniju.
I da Grčka i Madjarska, obe države su imale nacionalne avioprijevoznike s long haulom koje su ukinule te linije daleko prije propasti baš zbog jake konkurencije. Potencijala za long haul ima, ali to ne znači da će long haul biti profitabilan.
Što želite reći s ovim jogurtom?
Zadnjom recenicom potvrdili ste da uopce ne slusate sto drugi govore. A ako ste culi, a ne razumijete paralelu s jogurtom, onda zaista nemamo o cemu razgovarati. Pola milijuna putnika izmedju sjeverne Amerike i Hrvatske godisnje je 8-9 aviona dnevno u sezoni i 2-3 van sezone. Zasto ne prokomentirate zasto OU nije uzeo dio tog kolaca? U biti je stvar vrlo jednostavna, ali je oni kojima takav zivotni pristup ne odgovara, pokusavaju zakomplicirati. I vise se nemam namjere natjeravati ovdje sa vama jer ste ocito osoba koja ne prihvata tudje misljenje i cija mora biti zadnja. Dakle, kao i obicno, ovo je moj zadnji post za danas, na bilo sto dalje necu odgovarati, pametniji popusta, Vi sve znate, Vi ste u pravu, a Malaysian, Korean, Qatar, Emirates, Air Canada, Transat, United, American su svi bili glupi jer su imali ili ce imati linije za Hrvatsku, ja sam glup jer tvrdim da je dio toga trebala i mogla raditi Croatia, a Vi ste pametni, strucni, niste uhljeb i potpuno ste u pravu, a ja Vam se Ispricavam sto sam se usudio iznijeti svoje misljenje
DeleteDa čitam vaše komentare s razumijevanjem onoga što želite reći, no ovo s jogurtom nerazumijem. Što želite reći, da tvrdim da u Jugoslaviji nije bilo više jogurta, a ako to tvrdim onda ne vidim potencijal u long haul?
DeleteAli za razliku od mene koji čitam vaše komentare i odgovaram na iste, vas očito ne zanima ni malo, niti se trudite pročitati ili razumijeti moj komentar. Zato ste sada napisali totalnu glupost sa ovim Unitedom, Transatom itd. Ali glavno da ste vi pokazali svoj najjači protuargument na razini osnovnoškolca a to je "ja ću popustiti i zato sam upravu a ti u krivu". Znači na odgovor na cijeli moj prošli komentar ste iznjeli 0 (riječima nula) protu-argumenata. Ali eto, očito su "vi nepoštujute tuđe mišljenje", "uhljeb ste" i izvođenje drame u raspravi sa ovim " a ja Vam se Ispricavam sto sam se usudio iznijeti svoje misljenje" pokazatelji da ste u pravu oko vaših teza da LCC divizija ima smisla za OU, long haul za Bangkok svakodnevo sa A330 ima smisla za OU ili A350 u floti.
I'm wondering if OU should have attempted long haul flights at some point.
ReplyDeleteIf only we had a resident expert to inform us from time to time. ;-)
Well done Dubrovnik!
ReplyDeleteDidn't see this one coming. Well deserved. Congratulations.
DeleteGood luck United. Nice to see them finally in the region.
ReplyDeleteGood to see there will be some long haul flights to Croatia after all this year.
ReplyDeleteHope American returns soon too.
ReplyDeleteOh they will definetely.
DeleteGreat plan!
ReplyDeleteI suppose can work.
Recovery of the aviation industry in the US has been remarkable. Great to see this new route.
ReplyDelete214 seater, 3pw in peak season, very good and safe choice for the start. And I guess, we can include some of OU ZAG transfer pax via DBV.
ReplyDeleteThey will definetely. I will use the service, better and easiert to transfer at DBV than any other for NYC.
DeleteDid not see this one coming. Fantastic news.
ReplyDeleteDBV did not see this coming as well.
DeleteDid not see it coming EITHER.
DeleteSomeone gets Ryanair, someone gets United :D
ReplyDeleteNice. Only issue prices are extremely expensive
ReplyDeleteWell it is middle of summer and Americans are only permitted in a limited number of European countries.
DeleteWhy expensive? DBV-EWR-DBV return ticket is 711€, with stopover 572€. I think that is great price for direct flight.
DeleteKudos to UA on a bold move. Starting a brand new leisure long haul service with 3x weekly frequency to a destination with low vaccination rate is nothing short of stunning.
ReplyDeleteOn the other side many operators decided not to fly to Croatia. AA will not resume PHL-DBV, KE is staying away from ZAG and there will be no YYZ-ZAG flights this year. It remains to be seen what option was better.
Du bist a Neider, hahaha
DeleteI don't own UAL stock so I don't care. Market will prove if they were outliers or just going against consensus.
DeleteWell all of the above will be back next year! No need to worry.
DeleteNext year is not the point.
DeleteBut why not Zagreb?
ReplyDeleteU Hrvatskoj je u 2019. bilo 626.036 gostiju iz SAD-a koji su ostvarili 1,6 milijuna noćenja. Od toga je u Dubrovačko-neretvljanskoj županiji bilo 198.227 turista koji su ostvarili 546.326 noćenja. U isto vrijeme u Zagrebu nije bilo niti pola manje američkih turista, njih 82.494 koji su ostvarili 178.619 noćenja.
DeleteThey are targeting leisure routes. They also announced the launch of Reykjavik and Athens.
DeleteAlso from Newark?
DeleteNo, Reykjavik is from Chicago and Athens is from Washington.
DeleteNice :)
ReplyDeleteMore like very nice :D
DeleteMore than logical move.
ReplyDeleteOnly US3 flying to ex-Yu. This shows to what extent Dubrovnik is a world-class destination.
ReplyDeleteUS3 were flying to hundreds of international destinations before including DBV. This shows how high Dubrovnik is on their world-class list.
DeleteIt is certainly very good for DBV in terms of reputation and attracting more carriers of the same type.
DeleteVery prestigious
DeleteThat word always reminds me on ZAG.
DeleteThey were also pushing that word all the time...until Ryanair came :-)
Well at least a certain other airport has year-round flights to the US so DBV is not alone in being prestigious.
DeleteThose cabins look great for a B763!
ReplyDeleteThis is actually good news for OU. It will fill some domestic routes from Dubrovnik.
ReplyDeleteCongratulation to Dubrovnik on this major win of confidence!!
ReplyDelete+1
DeleteDefinitely a huge achievement and difficult task.
DeleteBravo DBV!!
I wonder if we might see them open more destinations in the region.
ReplyDeleteWell together with Dubrovnik, they also launching Washington - Athens.
DeleteDBV has just shown us all, how an airport develops, how it well maintains its airlines. I am confident we will be seeing more long-haul routes to YYZ, NRT and maybe LAX or BOS in near future.
ReplyDeleteDubrovnik definitely knows how to do the job!
DeleteAnd what about SPU? It’s bigger then DBV. DBV cannot cut seasonality, it is a job of the city.
DeleteRunway too short at SPU!
DeleteAmerican Airlines made a mistake by terminating Philly - Dubrovnik.
ReplyDeleteThat is true, but they can reintroduce flights again next year.
DeleteWould be great if we had American and United flying!
DeleteI was surprised that American was the first to bite the bullet and start flights to Croatia. I would have thought it would be United considering its Star Alliance membership and potential for codeshare with Croatia Airlines. But it's good to see them come eventually, even more so during this crisis year.
DeleteDelta flies to the the most secondary European airports out of the US airlines. So perhaps they could consider Dubrovnik or Zagreb in the future too.
DeleteAmerican also terminated Reykjavik permanently which is now being launched by United as well. Seems United wanted to get in and use it to its advantage.
Delete"United considering its Star Alliance membership and potential for codeshare with Croatia Airlines"
DeleteWhere exactly is the potential for codeshare? Other than ZAG, which you can reach on a dozen different connections, I don't see any other destination where one would want to connect to via DBV.
Can't wait to see them in Dubrovnik. This is a huge deal. One of the biggest airlines in the world starting flights to DBV. Fantastic :)
ReplyDeleteI think that they should have introduced Zagreb flights. In Zagreb they will have much more connections than in Dubrovnik, but I am happy for Dubrovnik anyway. It is good for Croatia in general.
ReplyDeleteHope to see some of US carriers in ZAG during the summer months in near future
DeleteThis should be a route with great LF during the summer, there is also potential to extend it few months for the next year, but year round ops probably can't work...
ReplyDeleteThat's why they plan it seasonal :)
DeleteBad news for Pragusa.One :D
ReplyDeleteCongratulation to Dubrovnik.
ReplyDeleteI think that next up they should definitely target Canada or South Korea flights. After they secure one destination from each they should look into adding more points in the US.
ReplyDeleteBoth are closed because of Covid.
DeleteI didn't mean this year. But in 2022.
DeleteRoutes from US to Dubrovnik definitely have potential.
ReplyDeleteWe will see.
DeleteGenerally flights from US and Canada should always do well to Croatia. Mix of leisure and diaspora passengers.
DeleteI'm really interested to see how this will perform. Hope for the best and we see new US routes to DBV in 2022 :)
ReplyDeleteUS authorities are very transparent and issue load factors for each route so we will be able to exactly see.
DeleteWhere can we see these stats?
DeleteThis will be the highlight of the year. Huge congratulation to Dubrovnik!
ReplyDeleteWon't this affect some airlines flying to DBV, particularly BA?
ReplyDeleteThis year hardly. Next, maybe.
DeleteWould have preferred JFK but this is good too.
ReplyDeleteIt would be nicer if they flew Newark - Zagreb - Dubrovnik - Newark.
DeleteWhy triangle? This is far more convinient.
DeleteHope they move to the B787 eventually.
ReplyDeleteB767 is perfect equipment for this route.
DeleteVery nice. Hope this might trigger other US carriers to start across the country.
ReplyDeleteWhat are the airfares like on this route?
ReplyDeleteskyscanner is your friend
Deletewow great news !! just 10 minutes from staten island !! ... can only dream one day US airlines flying non stop to Skopje
ReplyDeleteIt will be interesting to see how many new American tourists will arrive in Croatia this year thanks to these flights.
ReplyDeleteThey will have a limited a number of places to go on holiday.
DeleteActually I think many countries will open up to the US because of really sucsesfull vaccination campaign. France just announced today they will be letting US tourists this summer.
DeleteI hope this flight does great
ReplyDeleteFrom Newark to Dubrovnik and from JFK to Belgrade, that is so wonderful !
ReplyDeleteWho would have imagined this ten years ago ?
+1
DeleteAnd O'Hare to Sarajevo. Really cool all around!
DeleteORD-SJJ was removed from the system, flights are not happening.
DeleteReally glad for DBV!! Another prestigious destination and just proves how DBV is becoming the new Cannes or Nice of the Balkans. Having both AA and UA is unique.
ReplyDeleteOne phrase: Bravo Hrvatska!!
Cannes of the Balkans. Prestige strikes again!
Delete"Having both AA and UA is unique."
DeleteIndeed, pity that no ex-YU airport has both these airlines.
You mean just like only one airport in ex-YU has year-round long-haul flights?
DeleteBy the way, the US State Department is advising Americans to reconsider traveling to Croatia.
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/croatia-travel-advisory.html