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Air Serbia prepares for fifth long-haul route

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Air Serbia recently scheduled operations to Guangzhou with preparations now underway for the introduction of its fifth long-haul service, to Shanghai. As EX-YU Aviation News learns, two weekly flights to China’s largest city will launch as planned this year. By the end of 2024, the company will maintain services to three cities in China and two in the United States. “We launched JFK in 2016 and it took a pretty long time for it to become profitable. Being a small regional airline, it is not easy to make a decision over the second long-haul destination. Once you make that decision, you put yourself on the path of developing your long-haul network because you won’t be adding just one or two destinations if you don’t have a long-term strategy for meaningful long-haul growth. We were looking at Chicago as the second destinations, but due to its seasonality we were unsure whether it would be profitable or not and because it requires the lease of a second wide-body aircraft, it was not an easy decision to make”, Air Serbia’s CEO, Jiri Marek, said recently.

According to the CEO, the Chinese market provided a counterbalance to the seasonal nature of US operations. “Thanks to Covid, as a collateral benefit, the opportunity of the Chinese market opened, which is more flat in terms of demand and a nice addition is the rise in demand in January and February for the Chinese New Year. When we combined the Tianjin and Chicago business case together, it was an easy decision to make for the second aircraft. We launched Tianjin during Covid. There was no other option available to fly to China at the time due to the pandemic. Since those flights became profitable from day one, we don’t have the need to change to somewhere else at the moment. Chicago was opened in May due to the high seasonality. We kept it through the winter, which was much softer, as we expected, but we will work on improving it because we would like to keep it as a year-round destination”, Mr Marek said.

Commenting further on the development of Air Serbia’s long-haul network, Mr Marek noted, “The US market for us was key because it was based on diaspora traffic. Therefore, it was less risky for launch. On the other hand, diaspora routes come with high seasonality and high directionality, which you need to work on and manage. The codeshare agreement with JetBlue and the interline agreement with American Airlines will help us reverse directionality and seasonality. Despite all these measures, you will still continue to have seasonality, as everyone does on transatlantic flows, so the Chinese network counters that effect because Chinese seasonality is flat. You have the demand during New Year which comes at the slowest part of the year, and on top of that you have the Free Trade Agreement between Serbia and China which will unlock new cargo opportunities and even a segment of corporate travel. It is such a big market that there is an opportunity to grow more”.


August 09, 2024
Air Serbia Belgrade Feature serbia Winter 2024/2025
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  1. Anonymous09:01

    So 5 weekly flights to China in winter. Not bad

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    1. Anonymous09:39

      Why they don't add more flights to Guangzhou?

      Permit was three weekly if i remember well.

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    2. Anonymous09:58

      China Southern will also fly BEG-CAN, so there will be 4 weekly flights in codeshare. There is no need for more flights at the moment, especially not in the winter season.

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    3. Anonymous10:23

      I have a feeling CZ will not launch BEG before spring.

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    4. Anonymous10:25

      Your feeling is wrong. Flights will launch this year. Sales will begin 2 weeks before launch.

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    5. Anonymous10:27

      And when is that?

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  2. Anonymous09:01

    Bravo Air Serbia 🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸

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  3. Anonymous09:03

    I wonder if PVG will have similar timings as the Guagzhou flights

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      Most likely

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  4. Anonymous09:04

    Really big. So in last 3 months of the year two new long haul routes. I thought they might have given up on PVG since they haven't mentioned it for some time.

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  5. Anonymous09:05

    Interesting how Air Serbia thinks it can make flights to China work yet British Airways are going to stop flying to China end of October.

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    1. Anonymous09:07

      Interesting how Air Serbia thinks it can make flights to Ljubljana work yet British Airways are going to stop flying to Slovenia at the end of October.

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    2. Anonymous09:09

      British Airways is not stopping to fly to China. They are discontinuing LHR-Beijing Daxing. They will still fly to Shanghai.

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    3. Anonymous09:12

      The comment at @9.05 I have no words.

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    4. Anonymous09:13

      Interesting how JU makes money on BEG-LHR route and BA can't.

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    5. Anonymous09:13

      Britain is a steadily developing mess, they just don't know yet, so not a country someone would want to compare with at the first place.

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    6. Anonymous09:14

      Also British Airways is not the same prestigious carrier it was 20 years ago. LHR has also been a mess as far as transfers are concerned

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    7. Anonymous09:17

      Because they can't overfly Russia.

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    8. Anonymous09:23

      Air Serbia is actually the only European airline to add new destinations to China since Covid. Others just resumed either Beijing or Shanghai or both but no new routes. This is mostly because it has become expensive for European airlines to fly to China as they can't overfly Russia. But that's why Chinese carriers are doing amazingly well to China and have launched many many European routes from many Chinese cities.

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    9. Anonymous09:46

      Simply, Chinese need visas for EU and Britain, but not for Serbia. Also, I think Brits need visa for China. That is a huge advantage in favor JU

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    10. Anonymous11:39

      How come they're coming in 'millions' to Hungary then?

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    11. Anonymous11:55

      @ 09:17
      Air Serbia also don't overfly Russian air space towards China.

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    12. Anonymous11:59

      They don't overfly it because they don't have a need to overfly it due to its geographic location.

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    13. Anonymous12:54

      But Hainan always uses Russian airspace for their flights.

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    14. Anonymous12:55

      JU does not fly via Russia because it's cheaper not to pay Siberian overflight rights. Flight is longer by some 10 minutes so it's not a big deal for them. Of course, for European carriers in central and western Europe it is a different story because of their location so flying over Russia cuts flight time significantly.

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    15. Anonymous17:09

      The UK has put in place trade restrictions on China, has a strict visa regime with both China and Serbia, exited the joint EU market, wages an open war with China's close ally. You can't be a school bully and then expect everyone to keep playing with you

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    16. Anonymous19:30

      Hainan doesn't always use the Russian space, I saw it a few times use the more southern route just like ASL does.

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  6. Anonymous09:13

    One thing I like about Marek is how he always explains most of the reasoning behind Air Serbia's actions

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    1. Anonymous09:26

      Same here. Would be nice if he also explained why no one besides the pilots got a raise in a long time.

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    2. Anonymous09:48

      It may have something to do with huge company expansion. Money is strongly needed for new planes and new routes. After EXPO, I am sure that all employees will have huge benefits

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    3. Anonymous10:01

      Yes but what's the point of expansion if your employees are not happy with how much they are making? Many from HQ have left.

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    4. Anonymous14:19

      The company has the money to make adjustments to salaries, however alot is being wasted through inefficient operations with no will to improve. Pax compensation skyrocketed last year for example. An increase of 100€ per month for example wouldn't break their budget but would improve morale.

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    5. Anonymous19:31

      That's because competent managers are either demoralized or have left. You can have money but they mean nothing if you don't know how to manage it. For that they need high quality people.

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  7. Anonymous09:13

    How can they improve winter Chicago operations?

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    1. Anonymous09:16

      Maybe more transfer opportunities to winter destinations to capture some American travellers visiting Europe for Christmas or winter holidays.

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    2. Anonymous09:23

      They need some time in order for route to stabilise. Similar to JFK, ORD will become profitable in a period of 2-3 years.

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    3. Anonymous09:50

      They need more short haul routes so they can feed long haul. Simply as that

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    4. Anonymous10:08

      Did US release monthly passengers stats on Belgrade Chicago route?

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    5. Anonymous10:16

      No

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    6. Anonymous10:31

      Air Serbia opening more secondary cities in Poland could help feed Chicago route and possible future NA destination.

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    7. Anonymous12:29

      Not just poland. But Caucases, north Africa, and middle east expansion needed. Any expansion really. The more routes they have in their hub and spoke model then more transfers they have on the Kong haul routes

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    8. Anonymous14:29

      ORD is a tricky one as all 3 flights depart from different waves. Mondays at 1pm, Wednesdays at 7 am and Saturdays at 5 pm. It makes transfers quite complicated as the frequencies in the region are not there to support such a split schedule. 2 pw winter ops make transfer options even worse.

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  8. Anonymous09:15

    So Tianjin is definitely staying. They won't exchange it for another city.

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      Yes, they will keep Tianjin.

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    2. Anonymous09:42

      At 1 weekly, it is highly uncompetitive and my guess it's now mainly there because of high cargo demand.

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    3. Anonymous09:44

      Agree, commercially 1 weekly long haul makes no sense. Even more so with plane sitting in Tianjin for 24 hours. I think you are right that cargo volumes are high on this route and that is what makes it work financially.

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    4. Anonymous09:48

      Tianjin will probably go up to two weekly when they get extra A330s.

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    5. Anonymous09:52

      Yes, 2 pw is planned during winter season. Also, they may rotate crews inside China, when two more routes starts

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    6. Anonymous09:53

      When saying two more routes start you mean Shanghai and Guagzhou right?

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    7. Anonymous10:00

      Anon @09:52

      TSN is on sale 1pw during winter, not 2pw.

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    8. Anonymous10:10

      Absolutely, TSN is 1 weekly, don't know where he got that it's 2. It isn't, it's 1.

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    9. Anonymous10:16

      Perhaps it will be 2 weekly. It is only August. Many airlines are still finalising their winter timetables.

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    10. Anonymous10:55

      Patience, my friends. JU still didn’t finalize their winter netwotk, nor added new routes. It is clearly stated that they want planes at BEG before future expansion

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    11. Anonymous14:35

      TSN has always been 2 pw in the winter. JU is just traditionally late in releasing schedules. Still, the 1 pw flights are all full to the last seat and almost entirely O&D pax.

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      Rotating crew like you suggest adds costs and complicates rosters unnecessarily with no benefit.

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    12. Anonymous19:33

      TSN was reduced to 1 weekly last year due to pathetic loads. Our flight to TSN survives on cargo, that is why they are not increasing it. Don't listen to Marek, it's yet another of his PR fluff pieces. He has the planes now, why doesn't he increase it if the route does so well? Hmmm

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    13. Anonymous20:48

      Show evidence of LF or your post is pathetic

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    14. Anonymous22:16

      You are right, they reduced this route from 2 to 1 weekly just ahead of the Chinese New Year because it was performing really well for them... some people on here.

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    15. Anonymous23:23

      No, we won’t listen to Marek, we will listen you only

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    16. Anonymous01:19

      TSN wasn't reduced ahead of Chinese New Year, it went down to 1 pw when 1 A330 went in for scheduled maintenance prior to the beginning of the summer season. Loads are far from pathetic on TSN btw, lately (the past couple of months) the CLF is sitting at between 93-100% in both directions.

      And no, he doesn't have the planes now for 2 pw TSN while both aircraft are operating 10 pw flights to the US. It's either cut frequencies on the well established JFK route or ORD which is developing and sees a fair bit of competition. Cutting 1 pw to TSN is more logical.

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    17. Anonymous06:21

      TSN was not reduced just ahead of the summer season but just after the Chinese new year. Flights were halved on February 24 and they never recovered.

      https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/240126-ju1q24tsn

      We are not talking about boosting TSN now in summer, please follow what is being discussed. We are talking about the time when Marek recevives the third and fourth A330. It's crazy how he constantly praises TSN and whatnot but then the route keeps on having this symbolic presence. I think it's his way of defending his decision not to move flights to one of two Beijing airports.

      He needs to be more careful when making such statements because we are not stupid, we can put two and two together.

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    18. Anonymous09:06

      Well, the argument is that he’s CEO of largest and most successful airline in the region and what he says becomes truth sooner or later, while you are just anonymous who’s constantly repeating same negative comments on every good news for JU. I know it hurts, but you are becoming hysterical as a time passes

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  9. Anonymous09:31

    Wow so 2 long haul routes launching in Q4. Not a small achievement.

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  10. Anonymous09:31

    Congratulations and good luck Air Serbia.

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  11. Anonymous09:32

    It's a bit odd that they always choose to launch China flights in winter. I mean I understand the Chinese New Year demand but surely it can't be bigger than in summer.

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      Demand for Chinese New Year is huge. And they actually are not launching Guangzhou in winter but in S24 as it starts in September.

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    2. Anonymous14:39

      S24 is pretty much over when CAN launches. During that same week, ORD is down to 2 pw and JFK 3 pw. Launching flights to China in that period makes sense as it increases aircraft utilisation.

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  12. Anonymous09:41

    Shanghai will be their most successful route in China.

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      Without doubt

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  13. Anonymous09:45

    Good move. Belgrade – Shanghai can be sustained based on just P2P pax. With a big transfer network to support it, these will be even more successful.

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  14. Anonymous09:48

    I wonder if these new China flights will have an impact on other airlines flying to BEG which have a solid number of transfer passengers from/to China on their Belgrade flights like KLM, Lufthansa, Qatar...

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    1. Anonymous09:55

      Mahan Air was the first causality. Remember in 2022 they were transferring Chinese passengers via Tehran. Literally all passengers were Chinese. They ended flights after Hainan Airlines launched operations.

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    2. Anonymous10:00

      What an odd routing that was but shows passengers use various combinations to get to their destinations.

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    3. Anonymous10:28

      Why odd?

      It ain't more odd than via the Gulf or Turkey.

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  15. Anonymous10:01

    They should consider Urumqi at some point in the future, 25 million pax with no flights outside of Asia

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      Absolutely.

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    2. Anonymous11:44

      They were looking between Guangzhou and Chengdu. Mentioned by Marek last year. So Chengdu would probably be the next Chinese destination but I don't think it will happen as I believe they are limited in the number of routes they can serve in China

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    3. Anonymous16:59

      China Southern Airlines could fly Urumqi-Belgrade with their 737-8 MAXs.

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    4. Anonymous19:38

      Oh my... the infamous MAX. I'd rather they not send that plane to BEG!

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    5. Anonymous20:54

      MAX is regular visitor at BEG just like at other world class airports.

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    6. Anonymous22:17

      I think only FZ sends it on a regular basis, no other airlines has done it. Even TK sends it rarely which is a very good thing I must say.

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  16. Anonymous11:42

    It would be interesting to see what is the percentage of transfer passengers on JU flights from BEG to China.

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      TSN 75% transfers, JFK 55% and ORD 60 % transfers

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    2. Anonymous15:35

      TSN is transfers to where?

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    3. Anonymous16:15

      The transfer percentages are not correct figures.

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    4. Anonymous19:34

      Lol nonsense, TSN is like 98% local traffic.

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    5. Anonymous20:55

      Show proof of you are LOL analiticar

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    6. Anonymous22:18

      You know you can also show proof of what you claim. Vast majority of passengers in TSN are locals, not transfers.

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    7. Anonymous22:18

      FYI flights from TSN have decent loads just they are not transfers. There is A LOT of cargo.

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  17. Anonymous11:51

    Good work. They seem to be committed to long haul expansion.

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  18. Anonymous11:51

    Air Serbia has a huge potential in China

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  19. Anonymous11:52

    I expected Tianjin would only be a temporary move but it seems like they will stick with it.

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      makes more sense than compete against Hainan to PEK.

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    2. Anonymous12:31

      Maybe they can think about Daxing in Beijing

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    3. Anonymous12:53

      Marek mentioned several times that TSN would stay if they were satisfied with the results. And if you read the article he says they are satisfied with the result.

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    4. Anonymous19:35

      Ah that Marek guy. He has 4 A330s so if he is so happy with TSN why doesn't he increase it then? It's one thing what he says and another what he does.

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    5. Anonymous19:47

      He doesn't have 4 A330s, he has 2. It's either sacrifice frequencies on JFK or on ORD for an extra TSN rotation. China is easy to add and drop regarding frequencies, US not so much.

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    6. Anonymous20:11

      It's not easy to add. Actually it's very hard, because there is an agreement with Chinese authorities with limited number of flights.

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    7. Anonymous20:35

      Easy to add as in easy to return the 2nd flight.

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    8. Anonymous22:20

      Marek has 2 A330 now with 2 coming soon so this winter he will have 4 widebody planes. He is adding flights to CAN and most likely PVG. There is room for another TSN. I mean it would make sense since he keeps on bragging how it does well.

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    9. Anonymous22:21

      It's not "most likely", they are launching it this year. Sales brgin in 10 days.

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    10. Anonymous22:25

      Also I'm pretty sure Marek has a better idea on how a route is performing. He said last week that if any route is not performing, especially long haul, it will be cut. If 1 weekly works for their bottom line then I have no need to doubt him. But I guess you are yet another armchair expert with full knowledge of everything an airline has to deal with from bureocracy, staffing, maintenance slots etc.

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    11. Anonymous22:26

      Daj boze

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    12. Anonymous06:32

      FYI Chinese arrivals in H1 2024

      06.2024: 16.822 (+66.3%)
      01-06.2024: 63.799 (+69.6%)

      If Marek wants to take a piece of this cake then first step is to make sure people stop leaving JU. He needs to increase salaries and make the work environment less toxic.

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  20. Slav.Man12:33

    Great news they'll start the routes this year. Meaning they'll have all 5 routes operating the whole year 2025.
    And in 2025 Miami will start at some point and maybe even a 7th long haul route at the end of 2025

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  21. Anonymous13:05

    When is Lagos launching? 🤣

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      When BA stops flights, as threatened by Nigerian authorities.

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  22. Anonymous14:35

    How about getting flights to Cleveland again? 3x weekly would be much appreciated from all of us living in CLE from exyu.

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    1. Anonymous14:43

      It was mentioned a couple months back that JU is actively looking at a 4th US destination. Summer 2026 launch is my guess.

      https://www.exyuaviation.com/2024/06/air-serbia-assessing-one-or-two-new-us.html?m=1

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    2. Anonymous22:00

      Yes but that will probably be LAX.

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    3. Anonymous01:21

      It wont be LAX. Marek has made it clear that the focus is the east coast USA.

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  23. Uros15:17

    I would lease a350 and start LAX and SIN. LAX because we need to cover west coast and SIN as hub for Australia and all of Asia.

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      They can cover Australia from Ganghzou as well.

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    2. Anonymous16:13

      What a great idea to increase efficiency in the fleet. Why not throw in some B737's, CRJ's and Dash 8's into the mix as well.

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    3. Uros19:02

      Anon @ 16.13 There is not one-size-fits-all aircraft. It has never been!

      P.S: This is not place to express your sarcastic creativity!

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    4. Anonymous19:36

      They don't need the A350 for that, they should get the A339. It's a marvelous aircraft to fly on.

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    5. Anonymous19:37

      Of course there isn't. However, throwing in subfleets unnecessarily isn't the answer either. It's either A330 or A350, one is alot cheaper to attain and operate. A little hint, 1 A350 lease is roughly the same as 3 A332's.

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    6. Uros20:49

      I see where you are coming from, but I still think we need one premium aircraft and overall product for such long distances.

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    7. Anonymous22:21

      Dude JU and premium don't go together. Just look at the state of their A330 cabin. It's a flying horror, Pupin is in an especially bad shape and theer are currently no plans to send it to be fixed. Forget what Marek is promising, I am telling you what the company plan is.

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    8. Anonymous23:28

      So you are company and Marek is a paid actor? We should all listen your nonsenses and belive it? You are really funny character

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      @ Uros

      No, they don't need a premium aircraft. JU is no where near the need for such nor is the Serbian market premium heavy. JU has one of the smallest if not the smallest premium capacity running TATL and has degraded the product almost to the bare minimum. Lease rate for YU-ARA was a main problem for JFK becoming profitable, A350 leases are even higher. The money spent on leasing A350's would be more beneficial in refurbishing/improving the existing product. Again, the price difference between the A332 and A359 is significant.

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    10. Anonymous06:34

      Anon 23.28
      You don't have to listen to me, all you have to do is wait a few months and see for yourself. Then you will see who was right and who wasn't.
      You do realize that there is no soft product improvements because there is almost no one left in that department? People moved to other companies in Belgrade.

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  24. Anonymous16:23

    Bravo Serbia!

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  25. Anonymous21:46

    When will be flying to Toronto

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      Probably summer 2026

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      Last month Ex Yu Aviation published article about Air Canada looking to add 70+ aircraft over the next 18 months, before resuming destination growth. Summer 2026 looks promising.

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  26. Anonymous22:26

    Air Serbia flying to Chi, NYC, Beijing, Shanghai and other random airport in China while Croatia airlines flying to Mostar and Skopje thats their f*ckin target. shoot me

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  27. Anonymous02:53

    What about Mexico?

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