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| Sea Air to launch flights to Vienna, Munich and Frankfurt |
Croatian start-up airline Sea Air will launch operations from its base in Osijek on May 18. The carrier will operate daily flights to Vienna, Munich and Frankfurt with tickets already on sale. Sea Air will wet-lease an MD-82 from Romanian charter carrier Ten Airways. The jet has the capacity to seat 160 passengers in an all-economy class layout. Since the Osijek-based airline does not hold its own Air Operators Certificate (AOC), it will utilise the one from Ten Airways instead. Ten’s AOC was revoked by Romanian authorities in January but was restored only a month later. It specialises in ACMI and charter operations. The MD-82 that will operate on behalf of Sea Air is 33 years old.
Osijek Airport, which handled almost 30.000 passengers last year, anticipates to welcome some 100.000 travellers in 2015 as a result of the new services. Sea Air hopes to expand its operations from the city shortly after its launch. “We at Sea Air are delighted to inform that we will commence regular scheduled air services from May 18 and operate to Munich, Frankfurt, and Vienna. In addition to these city pairs, Sea Air will extend its operational network to include other European destinations in the second and third phases of its development”, the airline says. It adds, “Sea Air will operate as a low cost airline, however, this will not reflect on our service. Our passengers are our guests and will be treated to an experience where safety and efficiency is our priority”. According to the airline, passengers will be served cold meals and beverages on all flights at no additional cost and will have the opportunity to check-in twenty kilograms of luggage free of charge.
| Destination | Launch date | Details |
|---|---|---|
| Munich | MAY 18 | Click here |
| Frankfurt | MAY 18 | Click here |
| Vienna | MAY 18 | Click here |
Following its entry into the European Union two years ago, Croatia has been flooded with airlines wishing to set up bases across the country with foreign Air Operators Certificates, allowing them to bypass local bureaucratic procedures. Start-up carriers in the country have built up a bad reputation with Air Croatia recently suspending services until June, just several weeks following its first flight. Furthermore, last summer, Zagreb-based Dalmatian suspended all operations less than a week out from its launch. Another newcomer, Limitless Airways, hopes to introduce services from Rijeka this summer. Unlike others, Limitless has been registered in Croatia and has already advertised for several job vacancies including cabin crew positions.
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Overall, I don't understand this phenomenon of self-sacrificial air carriers trying their luck in in Croatia. The market is already pretty saturated. Even more developed tourist destinations like Spain and France have struggled to maintain a permanent plethora of air carriers, let alone smaller markets like Croatia.
Good luck to them, nonetheless.
Ovaj projekt ili rade diletanti ili prevaranti koji Äe ljudima oteti novac.
OSI ima ĹĄanse sa turboprop do VIE ili MUC, nekoliko puta tjedno SPU (ili svakodnevno RJK-SPU) i DBV, tri puta tjedno IST, tri puta tjedno OMO (velik broj hercegovaca u Slavoniji), te pokoju LCC i charter liniju.
Last year I was flying from BEG to Tunisia for a holiday and was surprised by the amount of Croatians on board. Most were from Osijek and they said it is much cheaper to book their holidays with a Serbian tour operator which is why they were flying from BEG.
MD is much cheaper to rent.
PoÄelo je, poÄelo!
Niko iz Vlade nije bio juce u BRU zato sto su docekivali Nemackog Gosta.
Sad truth is, any startup anywhere in exYU would have a lot of cash reserve to survive the first year and build its brand. And even then, there would be no guarantees it would pay off on a longer run.
Prvo bice 733 i 735 ako ne mogu da odrze obecanje bolje da ne navode nista .
Nemoze iz Vecih gradova da se napuni toliko putnika a ne iz OSI.
Nadam se da ce sutra biti one divne vesti o ASL od juce.
Samo sam ih uporedio , a vidi se da ne mozete da odrzite obecanje i revoluciju od juce da cete me ignorisati.
Moze jedno pitanje sto ste toliko pakostni iljubomorni.
ce biti i u Srbiji kada udje EU.
Samo sam rekao kako nijedna ni druga nisu odrzale obecanje oko flote.
Paradajz patriotizam.
A takodje mi e malo sumnjivo sto pocinju da lete iz OSI vise bi razumeo da je iz DBV.
A leasing jednog MD82 je 31000 usd nadam se da ce im uspeti to u OSI mada mislim da bi bilo bolje u DBV.
INN-NS
Admine molim vas ljubazno da obrisete ovo .
Hvala unapred :)
INN-NS
Da se odmah razumijemo, to ĹĄto su najavili MD ne znaÄi da je to dobar potez. Avion jest jeftin za nabaviti ali je joĹĄ isplativ samo za chartere kad je avion pun 90 i viĹĄe posto i kompanija ne riskira. Jednostavno devetka je preĹžedna i preskupa za eksploataciju, posebno tako stara. MD80 serija Ĺždere preko 4000 litara na sat vremena, dok bitno veÄi 737-800 troĹĄi tek 3.200 litara. Mislim da u Europi viĹĄe nitko ne koristi devetke osim Bulgarian Air Chartera, od redovnih kompanija nitko. Tek u SAD-u one joĹĄ uvijek lete (tamo je gorivo bitno jeftinije), ali i temo ih rapidno umirovljuju.
Uz to planirati tako ĹĄaroliku flotu je veÄ samo po sebi samoubojstvo. Na 4 aviona imati 4 razliÄita modela je ludilo. Totalna glupost. To ne moĹže proÄi ni u vicevima. Ni Chuck Norris kao CEO tu ne bi mogao biti profitabilan.
Isto tako planirati u danaĹĄnje vrijeme komercijalno letjeti sa 737-500 je grotesno. Äisti diletantizam. Ovaj avion je odavno postao neisplativ i svi su ga se rjeĹĄili tko je mogao. JoĹĄ samo oni koji su ga isplatili koriste ga za manje frekventne linije, a i oni ih se rjeĹĄavaju. Lufthansa Äe se svojih posljednjih 17 rjeĹĄiti do 2016. Äak se i TAROM rjeĹĄio svojih 500-tki.
su i dalje u prednosti kada je potrosnja u pitanju.
Ono sto je ovde po meni sporno je to da Aerodrom Beograd ima i male privatne akcionare koji su osteceni kroz smanjenje profita Aerodroma, odnosno dividende koje to preduzece isplacuje akcionarima.
INN-SNS je tutuban.
Yeah, you bet. That's why MDs are only flown in Africa and Ten Airways is dying since its first days...
1. Srbija daje i direktne subvencije Air Serbiji
2. Omjer investicije Etihada i Srbije nije 49:51 nego daleko viĹĄe daje Srbija, dakle ostatak sredstava jest subvencija.
Ja znam ljude iz Vojvodine, koji su iĹĄli za OSI da bi leteli sa RyanAir-om za STN... Tako da, teorija o tome kako niko iz Vojvodine ne ide tamo da leti. pada u vodu.
I already posted similar question once before on here but I am asking again since aviokarta.net reported that there is possibility we will see both BEG and SOF get separate and direct service.
I fear that's the norm. I hope their loads improve once they introduce direct flights.
Do you guys think that QR will ever start direct flights to BEG or is this just small talk. If there are lets say 35 pax per flight then it would be crazy to start direct flights. Somebody mentioned already that QR is ok with prices in BEG but their promotion and public relations are bad. I am confident that general public in Belgrade has never even heard of Qatar airways! I never saw any ads in regards to those flights.
DBV-LGW-DBV
DBV-ARN-DBV
DBV-HEL-DBV
DBV-EDI-DBV
DBV-MAN-DBV
Mislim da bi tako bolje opstali nego ovo sto sad rade sa tim tenkom.
Sta mislite koliko ce opstati oni.
INN-NS
A za tih 30 putnika nemaju ni za kerozin od SOF do BEG.
INN-NS
Ugovor je jedno. Tajni anexi i stvarno stanje na koje vas netko natjera nesto posve drugo.
Zacuduo bih se da obave prvi let, slagirao da prezive mjesec dana. Ali ako prezive do kraja godine plesat cu gol na sred Trga bana Jelacica
Koju bi im vi predlozili bazu u HR i gde da lete.
Hvala unapred :)
INN-NS
Drzave ne mogu biti retardirane, to je karakteristika samo zivih bica. A ljudi koji vode drzave takodje uglavnom nisu retardirani, ali su zato vrlo skloni da kroz raznorazne nejasne ugovore kojima "drzava daje vise od onog sto je u ugovoru", ostvaruju svoju licnu korist. Prijatno!
INN-NS
Anon 19.06
Their loads have been rather weak since the first flight. It's really unfortunate as they are the best airline in Belgrade, in terms of on-board product.
I do believe that they will establish direct flights. Qatar is above everything else a vanity project and for them profit is of little importance (at least for now). They want to built a global, classy brand and so far they have been doing a fine job.
I agree with you that they need a different approach when it comes to marketing in Belgrade. However, things are not as simple. In my opinion there are two great challenges for Qatar in Belgrade:
1. pathetic presence of the oneworld airline alliance which means that they can't really rely on their travellers. Maybe things would have been different if MalĂŠv was still around. They had truly fantastic loads in Belgrade and generally speaking, MalĂŠv had a lot of faithful customers.
2. the market is just too saturated at this point. There are way too many seats in a market with limited demand.
However, regardless of all logical explanations, Qatar will not leave Belgrade or any other destination where they are in direct competition with their Persian Gulf buddies plus Turkish Airlines. They are here to stay.
On a slightly related note. I was in Nicosia ten days ago and I was surprised by the aggressive marketing campaign they have going on there. Qatar seems to be making a killing in Cyprus. Their loads are actually healthy but then again... that's nothing surprising given the large demand between Cyprus and the markets in Africa, Asia and Australia.
INN-NS
But my prediction is that Turkish Airlines will become the true master in Athens. Of course, this is because of the massive O&D market and because of the short flight (insignificant backtracking).
Of course dailies would be stupid,but Qatar Airways could begin with three times weekly nonstop flights and turn the others which are stopovers into direct flights in the following years.
In our region, price is by far the biggest factor when choosing flights. Seat pitch, aircraft type, and food is irrelevant for the vast majority of travelers. Many will still complain, yet they won't pay more for it.
Every couple of days we get Nemanja&Co here talking about QR. It's not helping QR numbers.
I sta mislite koje su sanse da PS dodje u BEG sto bi bilo odlicno.
INN-NS
INN-NS
jedan manji turboprop
OSI-RJK-SPU-RJK-OSI-DBV*-ZAD*-DBV*-OSI-RJK-SPU-RJK-OSI
* 3 puta tjedno, a 3 puta tjedno OSI-OMO-PUY-OMO-OSI, 3 puta tjedno OSI-MUC-OSI (subotom popodne i nedjeljom ujutro nema OSI-RJK-SPU-RJK-OSI, umjesto toga OSI-MUC-OSI)
Kad promet poraste dolazi drugi avion i poveÄava se broj letova prema DBV-ZAD, OMO uvodi se OSI-PUY, OSI-MUC postaje svakodnevni, te se uvode Äarter linija prema GrÄkoj i/ili Turskoj, a eventualno tri puta OSI-IST
RIJEKA ILI ZADAR:
2 jet 100-seater
Jedna svakodnevna linija prema MUC, ZRH, CDG ili FRA
Linije sa 2 ili 3 polaska prema ostalim gradovima koju su gore navedeni, a nisi svakodnevne + MXP, FCO, AMS, BRU, LGW, SVO, CPH, PRG, te linija prema DBV za turiste ujutro, odlazak dolje, naveÄer povratak nazad, evenutalno code-share sa nekim prijevoznikom te fidanje njegovih linija u dva vala (AZ FCO, AF CDG, OS VIE, LX ZRH, LH MUC, KL AMS, JU BEG)
SPU nemaju ĹĄanse.
Eventualno deal sa DBV sa dva jeta i preuzimanje ovih putnika koje subvencionira grad i njihova turistiÄka zajednica:
- shutle do ZAG (5 puta dnevno, petkom i nedjeljom 6 puta dnevno)
- cjelogodiĹĄnje subvencionirane linije za CDG, LGW, ZRH, AMS, FCO, CPH
- code-share deal za fidanje u dva vala za (AZ FCO, AF CDG, OS VIE, LX ZRH, LH MUC, KL AMS, JU BEG)
ZAG
dva jeta i manji turboprop, ali samo i iskljuÄivo ako se uÄe u deal sa Croatijom, te se u code-share pokriju linije koje one ne Ĺžele letjeti (MAD, ARN, HEL, OSL, HAM, GVA, FCO, MXP, DME, OTP, SOF, CAI, OMO
alternativa feeding linije za prijevoznike koji nisu Star Alliance (AZ, AF, OK / BA, IB, AY / JU, AB)
Ili potpuno drugaÄiji koncept i dislocirano baziranje aviona i pokrivanje linija u regiji koje se subvencioniraju od lokalnih aerodroma i lokalnih turistiÄkih zajednica, sa moguÄim letovima iz:
- Maribora
- PortoroĹža
- Pule
- Rijeke
- Zadra
- BraÄa
- LoĹĄinja
- Dubrovnika
- Osijek
- VaraĹždina
- Mostara
- Tuzle
- Banja Luke
- NiĹĄa
- Morave
- Skopja
- Ohrida
- PriĹĄtine
- Balatona
- Debrecina
- Klafenfurta
- Tirane
"However, regardless of all logical explanations, Qatar will not leave Belgrade or any other destination where they are in direct competition with their Persian Gulf buddies plus Turkish Airlines. They are here to stay. "
@12:08
If it is due to operational reasons then why didn't Air Serbia lease a third A320 last year or simply paint one 737 in Air Serbia colours? This sort of hypocrisy makes me sick. Think TLV-BEG is around 300 bucks o-w to fly in a low-cost configuration, not a way to win the market. As for TLV in general, in regards to the competition, if not double daily you can't make it work, so either be ready to bleed some money or simply pull-out.
With such a low number of frequencies and an inconsistent product (one flight with the A319, the other with the B733) JU will fail at building up its own faithful travelling public in Israel. Getting rid of a negative image is not an easy thing to do, especially in super competitive markets such as TLV.
ĐĐ° иПа дОкаСа Онда но йи йиНО пОŃŃойо Са ŃŃĐźŃОП Đ˛ĐľŃ ĐąĐ¸ йиНО ŃиŃониŃнО ŃŃвŃŃонО Đ´Đ° кОŃŃĐżŃиŃĐ° пОŃŃĐžŃи. ĐНаŃиП ŃĐľ Đ´Đ° Ńодини ĐşĐžŃ ĐžĐ˛Đ´Đľ ĐťŃпоŃĐ° Ńи Ńи.
Thank you, that's a nice touch however there are several things which simply won't allow Air Serbia to take-off on the Tel Aviv market:
- Very low frequencies
- Low and in any case not positive brand-awarness, not improving due to same reasons
- Equipment inconsisctency (as we just wrote above), it is a complete shame to schedule on one of the actual high-profile an a/c that you said you're gonna retire few years before
- Schedule inconsiscteny, i'd say that double daily at same times is the only way to go
- Terriblle O&D pricing, shifting their customers to the likes of Pegasus and others.
With all these put together it is time to ask ourselves the question - "is it really worth it"?