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| Air Serbia to finalise transatlantic operations |
Air Serbia is expected to finalise its long haul transatlantic flight plans in just over two weeks time. According to the "Večernje Novosti" daily, the carrier's governing bodies will meet on September 17, when they are to make a decision on services to the United States. The Serbian government has earmarked New York as the airline's first long haul destination. However, it has also conceded that transatlantic flights are unlikely to generate profits in the first two years. "Afterwards these flights will be extremely profitable for our airline", Prime Minister Aleksandar Vučić said recently. Services are expected to start in the first half of 2016, although the airline is yet to issue any official comment. There has been strong pressure from the state, as a majority shareholder, for the flights to begin.
Aviation authorities from the United States will perform their final checks on Serbia’s readiness to handle transatlantic flights this September. They will evaluate Belgrade Nikola Tesla Airport as the point of origin for future long haul services. Mr Vučić said there are some concerns over the airport's ability to handle these flights, primarily in regards to quick baggage transfer. Air Serbia recently requested a foreign air carrier permit from the United States that, if granted, would enable the airline to provide scheduled and charter foreign air transportation of persons, property and mail on any and all routes authorised pursuant to the new US - Serbia Open Skies Agreement. In its application, the airline says it will first provide services to the United States through a codeshare agreement with Air Berlin via Germany, and could eventually offer its own flights. The United States Department of Transport is yet to make a decision on the permit request.
According to the Serbian government, an Airbus A330-200 will be leased for flights to the United States, at a cost of 500.000 USD per month. Last September, the President and CEO of Etihad Airways and Vice Chairman of Air Serbia, James Hogan, said the jet could be transferred to the Serbian airline from the Etihad Airways group. "Once flights begin, the Airbus A330 will be used. Etihad has the type in its fleet and it can be transferred to Air Serbia", Mr Hogan said. Similarly, Etihad initially sub wet-leased one of its A330s to Air Seychelles in 2012 in order for it to commence flights from the island to Paris. Through the arrangement, the Abu Dhabi-based airline provided its partner with crew and maintenance for the aircraft, while the lessor took the responsibility for supplying and operating the jet. Eventually, the deal was modified to a dry lease with Air Seychelles operating the aircraft with its own crew.


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Vucic should also learn that he has no place in openly discussing airline's plans for long-haul.
If JU management has any sense of reason they will drop these plans and work on actually building a strong European network. I am sorry but 4 flights per week to CPH, ARN, STR... is weak and a far cry from being a serious airline, especially with a split schedule.
"pa kud puklo da puklo" :)))
Seychelles is a no go because their A332 is already taken by EY. :P
Sta ovaj Vucko sve predvidi
And it makes less and less business sense.
We don't need a tutor to take care of Serbian tax-payers. Thanks so much for your precious care!
You shouldn't get upset when you realize that people are not at all jealous of the way your government treats you.
It's the government that should be covering the losses of these long-haul flights because they are the only ones who want them asap.
-- Charlie
Statistics are very dangerous, my friend.
Јат је могао да се пореди са Ер Булгаријом и осталим етничким компанијама. Ер Србија је прешла у другу лигу што значи да они себе морају поредити са Лотом, Еџианом, Пегазом...
Исто као што Београд не треба поредити са Загребом и Дубровником већ са Атином, Бечом и Варшавом, исто тако не треба поредити Ер Србију са Јатом или чак са Кроацијаном.
A najvise me zanima ko ce biti cs partneri u Kanadi.
INN-NS
EY will make for the lose through JU leasing the plan from them.
EY will make for the lose through JU leasing the plan from them
Such a drain on taxpayers!
Malev was not too big to fail.
Marginally higher pays in Zagreb and Ljubljana ?
Avrage pay in Croatia is around EUR750~ NET and 1100Gross, in Serbia average is around EUR400~ Gross. I wouldn't call that marginal costs, and when you refer much higher living costs than I presume you refer to rent and going out, for living costs are almost identical, food in Croatia is only slightly higher than in Serbia.
Croatian unemployment rate is at 17%, Serbia 33%, I think majority of Serbs have no illusions how their country is doing, clearly you don't.
False information again:
Average pay in Serbia net 380e gross 520
http://webrzs.stat.gov.rs/WebSite/repository/documents/00/01/83/35/zp11082015.pdf
Unemployment in Serbia 17.9%
http://webrzs.stat.gov.rs/WebSite/repository/documents/00/01/84/19/RS10_232_srb-II_kvartal_2015.pdf
No one is going to fly from North America to central, northern or western Europe through BEG.
JU needs a strong network in the Balkans, the rest of the ex-Yu, Greece, Turkey, Middle East, Cyprus, Ukraine, Georgia, Armenia to feed it's North American flights.
It has to build that first and then start JFK and whatever else. Not the other way around.
You don't start building a house from the roof.
GDP per capita in Slovenia 24,019$
GDP per capita in Serbia 6,123$
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28nominal%29_per_capita
I don't think there is much debate...
@AnonymousAugust 31, 2015 at 2:50 AM
told the truth
Many millions of Ethiopians are not poor at all and it also serves a diaspora of many millions all over Europe and North America.
TK flies people from the Balkans, the Caucasus, the Middle East, India/Pakistan and East Africa to North America.
Not Italians, Austrians, Germans or Swiss. It is a huge backtrack and uneconomical to do so.
Simple?
Зато што су Јат и Ер Србија јако различите фирме. Јат је примарно превозио локалне путнике и по неког трансферног.
Са друге стране, Ер Србија је базирала сво своје пословање на претварање Београда у право чвориште што значи да је њен бизнис модел знатно захтевнији и компликованији.
Јат је полако али сигурно умирао. Његово преживљавање се сводило на то да му гастербајтери остану верни те није било потребе да се оптерећују програмом лојалности, интернет чекина и тако даље. Важно је да су били великодушни са пртљагом, да су имали ок ред летења и тако даље.
Ер Србија је одступила од овог модела и самим тим морамо другачије да је анализирамо. Од ње се очекује много више него од Јата. Из тог разлога она мора да се пореди са компанијама које играју и истој лиги и које су јој директан конкурент.
Наравно, увек можемо да повучемо паралелу о томе где смо били и где смо данас. Важно је схватити да Јат никада није циљао да постане доминантан ван граница Србије док Ер Србија тежи томе. Једноставно то су била два различита света и као таква не можемо их директно упоређивати.
Koja je svrha tvog komentara? Cista malicioznost.
1. You are an idealist.
2. You are naive.
3. You don't live in Serbia.
4. You are a bot.
Vucic has said many things just as the previous leaders have, just as the opposition parties too, and we all know what comes from all this.
Who knows what is installed next. JU grew fast in the first round of expansion with LJU, WAW, BEY, AUH, PRG, BUD, OTP, SOF, with VAR operating seasonal, TIA and ZAG following. There is intension to operate to PRN and talks have been underway to make this happen. JU can surprise us with another round big expansion announcement or just remain with minor changes.
Lets wait and see what JU has to announce.
How about other options to keep both utilization and LF high? For example, Czech airline Travel Service/SmartWings uses planes from Canada's Sunwing for intra Europe summer charters, then takes stickers off and returns those 737 to Sunwing for busy winter season between Canada and the Caribbean. Are there opportunities within Etihad family that would see ASL A330 deployed in a more lucrative way during winter?
INN-NS
http://www.airliners.net/photo/JAT---Yugoslav/McDonnell-Douglas-DC-10-30/1773909/&sid=bd4c2d9946f5735e9ea95fa162dc5bc6
http://www.airliners.net/photo/JAT---Yugoslav/McDonnell-Douglas-DC-9-32/1649532/&sid=697672cbfe1de12763f82a30f95005bb
http://www.airliners.net/photo/JAT---Yugoslav/McDonnell-Douglas-DC-10-30/0334410/&sid=bd4c2d9946f5735e9ea95fa162dc5bc6
There are no Italians or Germans flying from Rome,Milan, Munch or Frankfurt to North America via IST.
Italians and Germans are using TK to fly from Europe to Middle East, Asia , East Africa.
Simple enough for you?
It can do this because it has many other passengers paying business class fares and full price economy.
So no, Germans are not flying with Turkish to New York through Istanbul.
They have many, many other options.
Air Serbia of course can offer really cheap fares, cheaper than any other European and American airline to fill it's planes.
passengers will thank them for it.
The airline will go bankrupt.
Simple as this.
I was talking about my own company, not the whole country. High-profile jobs in Croatia and Slovenia pay only marginally better than the same jobs in Serbia, whereas rent and bills are up to 100% higher than in Belgrade. I didn't say it applies to everyone and everything.
Someone recently made mention of the terrible baggage handling system. They are unable to cope with the current level of traffic at the airport. How on Earth are they going to handle connecting flights and transfer baggage with these services ?
Air Serbia are in for huge problems if this isn't addressed
An A330 can be boarded and deboarded using 1 bridge from L1 or L2 doors. Also they could connect C2 bridge to L1 door and C1 bridge to L2 door.
Oh yes, basic geography too!
- Baggage sorting
- Cleanliness
- Lack of food outlets
- Current shops and cafes are not open for all waves
- no smoking area
- poor signage (departure board too small ex at the transfer are by A1), mixture of cyrilic and latin alphabets and names of destinations not fitting the screens at gates
- arrivals hall is overcrowded and poorly managed
- illegal taxi drivers run to anyone and everyone exiting the customs and into the arrivals hall
- Entrances and exits from the terminal are of a disgusting third world standard
Quite a few things above can be solved quickly and with little cost, however is left as is for years. This is not to mention other things which seem would be luxury to have such as:
- exchange office in the transit zone
- travellators
- pharmacy
- water fountains/coolers at gates
Having said that, there are 27 parking positions for aircraft on the A, B and C stands however this number is reduced when a widebody uses the stands as we see and will see tomorrow (eg: QR will block C1 and C2 stands - C1A). Widebodies have longer/double turnaround times which may be an issue for JU and other airlines when the time comes, which could be soon.
BEG lacks a proper a stratergy and a proper investment plan. Everything seems just short term and a quick fix solution. Its great the terminals got fresh paint, new tiles and a public wifi connection, but that isn't really the solution either.
Noticed couple of media reports about "new terminal" when talking about C concourse extension project. It's not a (third) terminal!
You say that LH has the lowest price to the USA, but that's simply not true. I was just checking prices for my annual trip to SoCal and both QR and EY are cheapest by far in J class. TK is slightly more expdnsive, but I'm not too fond of their B773ER layout, yet the 16.5 hours flight from the Gulf is also not appealing. Anyway, LH is almost 50% more expensive so your statement might be true for Economy, but definitely not for Business class. The point being, that's where .oney is made on long-haul flights and AS might attract a significant amount of pax if priced right.
Do you have any proof for your claims or we are supposed to believe your supreme authority?
It is not a shame not to know certain things. You want to know some interesting details about passengers who transit via IST? - feel free to ask. If you prefer to remain ignorant and uneducated that's fine too but you should not lecture others then.